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[@jack_batterson]

I don't think anybody has done a 20 mile day and then said, "gee, I wish I'd brought more weight."

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

lol.... yep! Hike On, Darwin

[@Trickydickysticky]

Sure, i bet everyone whos hiked and been mauled by a bear or attacked by a mountain lion thought- damn i wish i brought bear spray... and the assholes that bear spray didnt work probably thought- damn... wish i added 3lbs to my base weight and brought a quality firearm.

[@Trickydickysticky]

@Fawthur ... your missing the point. Besides a holstered firearm with decent penetrating ammunition weighs about 3lbs and will do just fine in the hands of a competent shooter. If your excuse is 3-5lbs is too much weight, your both weak and stupid. Thats the dangerous mentality that gets people killed.

[@Trickydickysticky]

@Fawthur oh god, a caliber debate guy... Shot placement trumps caliber. You need to disrupt the central nervous system to stop the threat. Penetrating rounds 9mm or larger all work fine, its been documented. Infact alot of people who carry giant calibers arent capable of putting the rounds where they need to be to get the job done and end up getting mauled. Shootability is more important then raw power. 3lbs holstered, again. Very much worth the weight. If 3lbs is a no go for you then you need to hit the gym. If an intermediate cartridge doesnt make you feel comfortable in the woods, then you need to do some research and more importantly spend some time at the range.

[@Trickydickysticky]

@Fawthur ... ideal means you can get to it quickly, that means a holstered handgun. Are rifle calibers far superior? Yes. Neccesary? Nope.. but what is neccesary? Being able to get your gun on target (nervous system) in a hurry at any time. Carrying somethin that fires rifle cartriges or slugs is much heavier 6-10lbs and more cumbersome. Strapping a gun to your pack will kill your ability to acces it quickly during an ambush/charge. And dont think your gonna sling a 6lb gun over your shoulder for 10-20 miles a day. Put a 3lb handgun/holster you can shoot well on your hip and call it a day.

[@geauxadventuring6039]

Ok I want to Chime in........I am a veteran of the 82nd Airborne, we carried a combat load not including our parachutes of about 95lbs......So can I do it yes......will I ever do it again......No....so to respond to those viewers, I think its smarter to lighten your load in anyway that you can. Can it be done at 25lb Base? Of course.......will you enjoy it more at a 12lb base? Of course.

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

Good grief. I topped out at 70 pounds in the 70's and could only hike 10 miles a day. Never again.

[@zacharycat]

I read Bowden's book Black Hawk Down about the Somalia mission. One thing struck me was that special forces guys (Delta) carried very little equipment, and kept telling the regular army guys to get rid of most of theirs, because to get out of there alive they had to move fast and all that gear was slowing them down.

[@ronaldmcdonald9147]

@@zacharycat but remember that some took things too far and failed to take a standard minimum amount of water, NVGs and even plate armor. The 'extra' weight in military scenarios tends to be in the ammo category. There are two possible extremes here to note. #1 Is lack of fire discipline or wasting rounds. #2 Is overwhelming enemy numbers where carried ammo is simply never enough. The best answer to both is resupply/reinforcement, but careful assessment of capabilities can be critical, and this last thing applies to long trail hikes. Bushcraft is a key part of hiking my own hike. This increases my weight by several pounds or more, but I'm less likely to be 'that guy' who needs rescue. I've already got my milage in elsewhere, so it's not my top trail priority.

[@baird329]

I blew out my knee and ankle in Iraq. I was a saw gunner carrying about 140 lbs. I watch this stuff to help shed weight on my kayak camping because 50 lbs on my kayak hurts now a days when I have to carry it past a waterfall. In other words you are very correct.

[@ronaldmcdonald9147]

@@baird329 I was there late '05, early '05. Essentially the twilight of 12+ years service. Some regrets, but thankful that I was old enough to no longer think of myself as invinceable. After returning, I used my terminal leave to go space A to Australia. I then paid out of pocket to New Zealand and return, but I didn't have the distance hiker bug. My future goal is to return to NZ to hike the Te Aroroa...before tourists ruin it. Some old-school is still very cool. Travelers use maps Tourists use apps You heard it here 1st, Semper Fi

[@ChrisKeller]

This video was very timely for me. I'm a car camper just breaking into backpacking and the concept of thru hiking. I was getting frustrated by reducing base weight because I had some expensive (compared to what I'm used to) gear that I was already considering replacing before it's first outing. My takeaway from this video is not to stress yet, I just need to get out there for a few weekends and multi day trips to gain experience and find my own balance point, learn what actually matters to me. Thanks!

[@Joe_Serious]

Definitely get out there and use what you have to find what you like and don't like about it. The great thing about experimenting with gear is that if you ever want to bring a friend that doesn't have gear, you can supply them with stuff you have used and have experience with. 🤙🤙

[@Dominic_in_the_Outdoors]

I think you nailed it when you said it's about BALANCE. This means that it is going to be different for everyone depending on budget, conditions and experience. We'll done for replying to the comments. Dominic

[@ericmartinez5126]

You offered a well thought and educated response to a topic that will never find common ground. I bought into the super ultralight cottage company community. I'm obsessed with obtaining that ultralight weight. Yet... I haven't even done a thru hike yet. I'm merely a weekend warrior. But at the end of a long hike while I'm in my tent about to fall asleep... it's the things that are in my pack that bring me joy. Just because those items weigh 5 pounds or so less than the other guy in the tent at the next site is inconsequential. This topic.... falls into the age old adage... hike your own hike. Thank you for being you!

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Great Point Eric, it is all about Hiking Your Own Hike..... Now, let's get you out on a Long Trail!...lol Hike On, Darwin

[@ericmartinez5126]

It's in the making. I sent you an email question yesterday about my future trip. Thanks for your time!

[@brianhackit7900]

Eric Martinez oh man its expensive. lol i try to live through Darwin's videos but I'm savin up. You should check out the vid he mentions here about UL gear on a budget. that helped me realize i can afford it eben on a Utra Light budget (see that?).

[@ericmartinez5126]

American Pi I did see that one....AFTER i made my big three purchase with a cottage company. Lol. So much information and so many choices in trail gear! It's a great time for gear heads such as myself. Trail on Eric

[@MrTmax74]

Eric Martinez agreed! I'm a weekend warrior myself :-) it was fun though to lighten my load so it isn't as painful now that I am in my 40s.

[@backpackingonline]

Best video, your examples are 100% ..after family camping with dad and mom fishing and photography, I got started with mountainclimbing. I have been UL from the start. For one thing, I could only borrow a canvas yucca pack without the frame. Next, I got the smallest Kelty frame pack I never filled with gear. I found creative ways to bring every system required, having everything I could serve dual purpose or more. ..and our group participated in making the 10 essential systems list. It was never 10 items: the items were representative of the systems approach. The point: I wanted my total carry weight to be about the food, and the extra food we carried for our margin of safety. Bottom line: low base weight, more food up to your own comfortable total weight.

[@stephaniepark8328]

Minute 6! Yeeesssss! I'm down 65 since January and have 40 to go, but already I've noticed I can do more activities and such....ya know. Like hiking! I'm glad you did this video, I got a sideways glance when I mentioned shooting for a 15 lb base weight from a former Marine. I'm so sending this to him.

[@stephaniepark8328]

*10lbs

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Nice! Congrats on the weight loss, I know how great that feels for sure! Glad you dug the Video, Thanks for Watching! Hike On, Darwin

[@antoniabaker7770]

Wtg Steph.

[@stevenews5910]

Stephanie Nash Great Job! Keep it up. You can do it.

[@smith13514]

I'm in the same situation as you! It feels bizarre to be carrying weight on the outside of my body instead of the inside. My muscles already have some practice hehehe. I hope you are starting to enjoy everything life has to offer =]

[@donaldpriebsch]

Man, you always had my respect but dude.... That life change is like crazy!!! Congrats for that achievement.

[@AstheMagpieFlies]

Thank you for taking the time to explain why weight is such a big deal! Even when you go on a long haul motorcycle trip, weight & weight placement is such a big deal and too many people don't understand and end up in terrible accidents because they put almost 150 extra pounds strapped to the top of their bike! Anyway! Thanks for being awesome Darwin!

[@rejeanbrisebois7343]

Once again, thank you for helping us to be better and happier hikers.

[@claremonk6734]

That was a very diplomatic reply to the comments. Well done for replying so eloquently and logically. Looking forward to following your PCT hike 🤗

[@johnnybomb08]

Can't agree more. I was in the Marine Corps for only 4 years and my shoulders and back still hasn't fully recovered from all the times we humped with 90+ lbs of gear (and I've been out now for over 22 years). Now when I go on a hump I got a base weight of about 30-32lbs but I do short 5-10 miles. If I had to do a thru hike of just the PCT I'd definitely lighten my load with just the bare necessities. No gun, ammo, knives, redundant items like extra ferro rods but I'd still use my tactical bag because of durability since I tend to throw things around.

[@yake12]

I'm sitting here watching this video and sitting at 273 lbs myself, and just finishing up the final preparations for a 4 day hike this weekend. Your videos have helped me a lot and the more I learn about you the more inspirational you become. I'm prepping for a NOBO on the AT starting in march, and I'll keep watching your channel for tips and inspiration for that. Thanks Darwin!

[@PortlyPour]

You are an inspiration to many too! Don’t ever give up on yourself!

[@bobbafett1971]

Well said..long distance. Definitely needed..but overnight...or just a few days. Not as necessary...its not KZbin vloggers having this conversation just for clicks...its through hikers that are making videos...so makes lots of sense to have super light equipment.

[@acderath]

From the first comment, one thing to note is that those hikers in the background may not be thru hikers. My standard backpacking pack is way heavier than a standard long distance hiker. But that's because I'm going with my 12yo son and he can only carry so much.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Great point Acderath! Like I stated in the video, there are tons of trips where I carry more weight, just not during a Long Distance Hike. Hike On, Darwin

[@BulletproofPastor]

GoldenPSP - Great point. At 16 I was on a section hike of the Wonderland Trail in WA with my family. By the end of the first day my dad and I were carrying a lot of my sister and mother's pack. My load jumped to 65# on a 165# body. I was fine by the end of the day but the first 20 minutes of hiking day two is a memory still with me and I'm now 65.

[@alorr4uz]

this is a great point, weekenders like me, can carry a bit more. They like their luxury items and may be stopping in one spot for a few days. It all boils down to each individual, what you are comfortable with and what you plan on doing. It's always nice to know what your base is but trying to reach some unrealistic weight threshold is maddening. Like I have to get my base down to 10lbs or something, it's ridiculous. My full pack is 22lbs, don't care about baseweight, i have to take all that stuff anyway. I can just plan for a more elaborate meal or when it's scorching like now I can take a bit more water. it's the old "you do you". That being said, if I find something lighter that does the same job and is affordable, I might buy it.

[@CM-uq8ro]

True. Thru-hikers aren't the only people who use those trails. You also dont know what that person's situation is from just a picture. For example, when I was 16 I had to carry a 50+lb(total weight) pack. But it was just the weekend, and I was teaching a class on backpacking for girl scouts. Because I was leading the trip I ended up carrying I lot of the shared group gear in addition to my own. It's also harder to be ultralight when you need equipment that works for a big group.

[@earlgrey2130]

THIS. This is exactly it.

[@stevenskinner8532]

Hiked with a guy on the AT back in 81. He was carrying 70-80 pounds. His boot tread was wearing out by the time he made it to VA. His pack was also wearing out. If you are doing a through hike you can always add weight after you get in shape.

[@sinfonianbarelytone9191]

I'm not a thru-hiker. I'm a scout leader and dad. After seeing countless videos on UL I knew that was for me. I'm on the wrong side of 45 and not as healthy as I should be, but I want to show my sons how beautiful the PNW is. When they started boy scouts I got them the lightest gear I could afford. They can't carry much. Then I got me lightweight gear because I can't afford to outfit us all UL. However, over time I've been replacing pieces of gear with UL expensive options. It's fun. I'm down to 12 pounds base. I can get much lighter but my comfort level diminishes. Eventually I'll get into the sub 10 range. Maybe when my son does Section J of the PCT with the scouts next August and I go with them. Can't wait! We will splurge before that to make sure my scouts are comfortable. Section J is no joke, but one of the most beautiful on the trail, so I'm told. Thank you for all you do. Love your videos.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Great Comment Brother! Thanks for Watching! Hike On, Darwin

[@McCANTS313]

The gf and I just got into trail hiking this past summer and just did our first overnight "backpacking" trip. Backpacking in quotations because we had already bought all our camping gear this year and pretty much had to start from the ground up. So we really had no money to buy lighter backacking gear, therefore we used a heavy duty wagon. With big camping gear...and without what we would NOW consider "essential"...and probably more things then we needed. Many more things. Only was 7 mile hike, but the elevation was about 10,000ft of tiny trail, sand, fist sized rocks everywhere, and exposed tree roots all over the path, creating anywhere from 4 inch to 10 inch hurdles. Translate that to the situations he speaks about and I completely understand what he starts saying at 2:35. I've never done long distance obviously, but after our shockingly challenging experience, I understand it. We actually enjoyed the whole hike, both days. Body was done, but we kept our mentality and actually enjoyed damn near every minute of it.

[@tridad2000]

Thank you for such a pragmatic and diplomatic response to those comments. It made for an exceptionally interesting and informative video. Keep spreading those positive vibes my friend!

[@cookie69420]

My first backing trip was supposed to be a four day trip 10 mile in, we made it two days and to the first base camp five miles in. I personally just brought a military duffel bag fulled to the top with my sleeping bag strapped to it. All the food we brought was canned. That bag weighted 97 pounds , I ended up ditching three pairs of pants two shirt , a white fuel container, a pot, pump stove , and a full size pillow and two days worth of canned food( about 7 cans), I'm not proud of it either . But I learned my lesson and now I try to pack out any trash I come across to make up for it.

[@rodpuck]

Our group started out 10 years ago doing 4-5 day trips without caring about weight. I had no problem carrying it but at the end of the hikes my shoulders and hips were bruised. Over these years I have dropped the weight and it feels so much better. I always preach go as light as you can on your budget and comfort zone. I watch friends pay the price for taking to much. Plus I like to get my load light then load it up with wine and bourbon!

[@TheIronCobra666]

As usual, that was well said, Darwin. I truly appreciate your videos not only because I learn so much from you, but also because your delivery is always so refreshing. Not only are you informative, but you are a kind and courteous communicator. You inspire me not only to hike, but to also be a more well-poised soul. Thank you for all that you do for us.

[@michaeldehart648]

Thank you Darwin. You are spot on when you talk about keeping things like 'base weight' in perspective. I enjoy your videos and have learned a lot. I'm a 66 yr. old cancer survivor getting in shape to enjoy backpacking more. I for one appreciate your experience and the fact that you're willing to share it with me. You and others like Dixie have been there done that. You have the background and actual experience. I have done a number of day hikes ranging from 3 to 10 miles I employ many of the tricks I learn from you and others. I try to pass on what I learn...like a 'pay it forward' thing. My goal is to encourage others to get up and get out of the house and be more active. BTW I'm doing my first multi-day excursion soon here in Texas. So from this old hide, Thanks!

[@blackoak4978]

As a basic camper who doesn't drive, I rely on packing everything on my back. I started watching these kinds of channels so I could pick out the best value-added, light and compact items for my needs based on the word of ppl who have relied on these items on a daily basis. For example, I didn't know about camp burners before but because of this channel I have a whole cook system that fits in an open hand, and it cost less than $100 all together, including fuel. Now I no longer have to rely on someone else's bbq, and with the water filtration system I picked up for less than $30 I also don't have to rely on someone else bringing big, bulky water jugs and heavy coolers of food. As others have said, "hike your own hike". Because of your help, my next camping trip will be much more comfortable, thanks a ton!

[@davidschlewitz6116]

I think this is very important and appreciate your premise. I am 64 and prepping to start CDT this mid April (2018). Thanks!

[@MAXCOBRALAZERFACE]

How did your hike go?

[@m.hernandez1404]

Good points, especially about water in the west. Carrying 1g/4 L per day adds so much. Also, some of us, um, more senior hikers need lighter weight. Thanks!

[@strollersofthecodyscarp7557]

Dude, you have some of the best informative, face to face shot videos on backpacking on you tube, please don't stop running out of topics.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Thanks Red Bear! I try...lol Hike On, Darwin

[@GuadalupePicasso]

Dude! Mad props for the big weight loss! I’ve been following your channel for at least a month now, and bee would’ve guessed that you had ever been anything other than the leanly muscular physique that we see in your videos! Again, man, mad props!

[@SmokeytheBeer]

Awesome to hear about your transformative experience Darwin. It's easy to think Darwin was born a hiking demi-god, but he too has a past. It gives me confidence that I too can thru-hike the PCT! Happy Trails!

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Hell yeah you can!.... Now Get out there! Hike On, Darwin

[@danalissy2526]

Trust me, women are very, very interested in UL gear ! UL was my priority when I started to buy hiking gear (backpack, tent, mattress, sleeping bag... and the rest) for my very first hike. I don't regret to have this as my priority ! It is still... heavy enough ! ;-)

[@jacobfreed5060]

I have MULTIPLE injuries from the military and if I didn't do my research and test gear out the ass to get as light as possible I wouldn't be able to backpack the miles I do and frankly it's more enjoyable for me to have less weight on my body as I hike. And honestly who WANTS to carry more weight by choice!? Ruck marching when I was active duty with up to 75lbs of gear was hell. I'll take my UL gear and less injuries any day.

[@christopherglover]

I feel your pain. A few years ago 20 kg pluss was easy. All the years in the Army has broken me a bit now though so im looking at going lighter. Keep up the good work fella....👍👍👍👍

[@castile8009]

Thanks for your service guys! After 36 years of a physically demanding job my body is beat to heck. Now that of come to a point in my life where kids and career aren't as important(well job anyway) I'm looking at thru hiking as my next adventure so lightweight is pretty important for me to be successful.

[@Echo4PapaBravo]

Anyone can go lightweight if they want to stay on well trod paths that everyone and their dog has gone on. But get off the trail and you will see why most outdoors men and women take what they need, and then a little extra for comfort, regardless of what it weighs. Within reason of course. No one is implying that you need to take 50 pounds of gear you won't use. Semper Fi

[@jacobfreed5060]

Papa Bravo yeah, actually most hiking I've done has been off trail. I have yet do hike on a nicely groomed trail and this "outdoors man" is still staying as ultralight as possible because I don't need an abundance of comforts.

[@CDaKiddVA]

I agree and feel the back pain too brother. I fucked my back up in the Army and would never get out there on the trail if I had to carry too much weight. I do take a few luxury items but I keep my eye on my pack weight. Ultra light is essential for me to even consider getting the trail. Im constantly trying to lower weight.

[@jonathanpaler3411]

You are absolutely right darwin. I really liked your channel. 👍🏼👍🏼

[@MSPFRANCEkschmitt]

Actually, you forgot one thing ! Lowering your base weight allows you to bring some (more?) luxury items that would have been too heavy :)

[@geraldhenrickson7472]

Ruh Roh..that is the mindset that actually keeps many from ever acheiving a light base weight.

[@alorr4uz]

@@geraldhenrickson7472 bologna, the price of ultralight gear is what keeps people from lowering baseweight.

[@SpaghettiToaster]

@@geraldhenrickson7472 People achieve the correct baseweight, which is the only thing that matters. There's no such thing as a light base weight.

[@blacksunapocalypse]

@@geraldhenrickson7472 But keeps them generally happier :o

[@andrewwolfe8742]

Great video man. You hit some great points. It's a big thought for a small hike in the Chinese wall next year. You made great points!

[@rdoody2067]

Excellant discussion on a important subject. I’m a old-time backpacker, UL gear has allowed me to continue backpacking. Comfortable and safe backpacking requires some work and experience. The art of backpacking is knowing what not to take.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Well said R Doody! Hike On, Darwin

[@brigittegreve1082]

I've only recently been exposed to the whole world of UL. A year ago, I had no idea what the heck base weight was. I'm a female in my mid-50s and I've backpacked all my adult life. My gear weighs the same as it did 20years ago, but I'm not nearly as strong as I was back then. Last summer, I did a 14-day solo in the Canadian Rockies, leaving the trailhead with a 70lb pack. Out of necessity, I needed to cover 25-30kms/day (which is some pretty average mileage for an AT thru hiker). It darn near killed me. Sure, I was proud as hell of myself when I finished my trip. But I knew I had to find an easier way, since I'm not getting any younger. I've gotten a great education listening to KZbin vloggers talk about gear choices (thanks so much, Darwin!) and have made some significant improvements to my base weight. Holy shit, base weight and ounces really matter, who knew?!!! While I have the ability and stubbornness to tough it out like a marine, I'd rather not! My trips this year have felt so easy with a lighter load. I can cover more distance in much greater comfort. It's changed me. I'm even dreaming of the PCT. Thanks for the inspiration, Darwin.

[@Vonzolicious]

Totally agree with everything said in this video. I once carried 45 lbs including food and water on a 5 day trip in the Smokies. I now carry around 20 lbs including food and water. It absolutely makes a HUGE difference. Grams make ounces and ounces make pounds. Think like that and you'll get your pack weight down. Also, I love not having all the extra stuff to worry about when I get to camp. My unnecessary items weigh under a pound now and fit in a tiny stuff sack. That said, hike your own hike. I don't mind if you carry a heavy load if that's what you want to do. I hope you don't mind if I cut all the unnecessary stuff out of my pack. ***** Darwin ***** when you do your PCT gear video please don't be one of those guys who doesn't count his camera gear in his base weight. That's shenanigans. You're carrying it so please count it.

[@rudysal1429]

Hmmmm no grams do not make ounces. Ounces and grams are different measuring systems.

[@kennethstarr5545]

This is why I like your vids! You explain it from a mature perspective. Common sense doesn’t come to everyone. Thank you for all you do.

[@Foxr6]

Well said man! There will always be haters! Respect from 🇨🇦

[@HikeLighter]

Hey Darwin. I am primarily a sub 2268 (5 pounds) hiker, and I think the whole issue of 'recovery time' is one that so few hikers really give consideration too. The older that I get the more this becomes something that is a reality. One other aspect of 'going lighter' that I have always focused on, that would have been great to have you highlight, is the learning/educational part of things. The less gear you carry the more you begin to learn about things you have not learned, such as new approaches to dealing with environmental conditions, the importance of self-safety techniques (ever more present of mind to not injure yourself), and learning what your gear (such as wind jackets, rain gear, socks/shoes) are and are not capable of doing and when and in what situations to use them.

[@YakoBako]

“What is base weight?” “It’s the base weight” 🤣😭classic thanks for the video great examples and graphics

[@harmony331000]

I am incredibly proud of you for how you dealt with this topic and the detractors!! Well played sir!

[@justrusty]

Hiking = Walking + Carrying. If you can increase the walking and decrease the carrying, you're better off.

[@RickBelt]

I don't want "increase the walking', I want a happy trip. For me, hiking is not a competition.

[@justrusty]

@@RickBelt Well yes, I should have said simply "decrease the carrying"

[@tommyclough9981]

Darwin. Thanks for the videos. As you said, it's all about sharing experiences and knowledge. As we all know, opinions are like... well they get the point. Posting videos on KZbin is a lot of work that most people commenting, don't understand. It also opens you up to being criticized. I am amazed you "still" have the patience for these people. When I first started hiking, my base was 23.5 lbs. Most my hikes were only 2-4 days, SO IT WAS NO PROBLEM. I did a 11 day hike in the smokies hiking the Benton MacKaye trail and the AT with same base weight, max load around 35 lbs. and had the worst time of my life. Took me 2 years before my knees recovered. Do a distance hike and you will find out what your real base weight should be. My base is now 15.5 lbs and I am happy. I tried a base around 11 lbs. but I needed a little more comfort. I had a ZPacks Arc Haul BP, but it didn't fit right. No worries. I now have an Atmos 65 which is amazingly comfortable. I do have a ZPacks duplex tent and I love it. I have some other ZPacks stuff as well, and I have found my balance. There is not right or wrong when hiking, cuz in the end, your the one hiking your crap up and down the trail. I will say though, I chuckle at some of the base weight lists I see out there. People trying to be lighter than they are. They are not fooling anyone by claiming a lighter weight on their items than it really is. Just own it. HIKE YOUR OWN HIKE. Thanks again for vids Darwin and keep them coming.

[@chhe5433]

I started really questioning the weight in my pack once I hit my 30's and was struggling to complete weekend trips. I was trying to be cheap and not taking care of myself. It made me question myself on fitness, ability and longevity in regards to the outdoors and just life in general. I did some research and started really looking at what I was carrying. I think my old base weight must have been in the 30-40 lb range. I stopped carrying a small ax, 2 knives (one was a k-bar), tons of fire starting gear and updated my big 3 (tent, sleeping bag, backpack). Now, about 10 years later I have hiked a lot more and with a lot less weight on my back. I competed the JMT in 2015, and have done many multi day trips up and down the west coast. I currently have my base weight down to 12 lbs, though that fluctuates with time of year and whether I can ditch the bear canister.

[@shawnpappas5921]

Darwin, your videos are great. The main reason for me watching them is to gain knowledge through your experience. It's easy to say how base weight isn't too important until one is exhausted, hot/cold, hungry and there's a storm looming. Harsh conditions put things in perspective.

[@Lue_Jonin]

Outstanding video Darwin... I shared it on FB to some 2019 new hikers that were debating base & trail weight.... I gave them my own 2 cents worth of experience & wisdom but felt watching you explain this topic in depth would help. Thanks again for your efforts to help others within the hiking community. ✌ 👣 👑 👑

[@activeal]

You are a good teacher and fun to watch! Thanks!

[@zacharycat]

Hiking gear is lighter now than it was 30 years ago just as it is in my main sport (cycling). Also being 30 years older I want that lighter load...

[@YankeeWoodcraft]

For me, I choose ultralRIGHT vs ultralight. Ultralight means that concessions were made for weaker gear to achieve a lighter weight. Andrew Skurka has the concept down pat I think. If a 5lb 3 season sleep system will guarantee me 30 degree safe sleeping conditions without risking condensation and hypothermia over a 4.9lb 3 season sleep system, I'm going for the 5lb sleep system. That goes the same for everything. Anyway, if it ain't under 10lbs for everything minus food & water, it ain't ultralight (but I love how they never include the weight of their camera gear in the loadout weights that they carry! LOL). Darwin, you are the BEST hiking channel. Thanks for your work.

[@gone4days956]

i'm planning a 100 mile section hike of the AZ Trail in March. My base weight is ~ 17 lbs. If you do a serious section hike or thru hike with a 35 lb base weight pack, have fun!

[@autonomous2010]

For a casual hike over a long distance, i've managed with a 30 pound pack. Currently 26 years old. But about half of that weight was in food since it was sometimes a week travel between cities.

[@Britneykcook]

Thank you so much for posting this video! You speak a lot of truth and I know I wish I would have seen something like this before taking on the PCT this summer. 1,000+ miles with a 30-ish pound base weight was not fun, and my knees hate me for it now! Next time, I know better and it's partially in thanks to the KZbinrs who are helping me understand it even better. It's disappointing that people (who probably don't know much about thru-hiking anyway) are talking so much trash to you guys. I do have to say that anyone who talks crap about obsessing over base weight probably doesn't know much about long distance hiking or hasn't experienced it to the extremes of a thru-hike. Especially with anything beyond a 10-20lb base weight. You vloggers have helped me learn a tremendous amount! Discussing base weights and how we could get them lower is something almost every hiker I encountered on the PCT talked about. It's one of the most important aspects of thru-hiking so you have a better experience and don't damage your body in the long-run. Thanks for the input and videos!!

[@mnberg]

Good stuff, you could have easily roasted that dude but you took the high road and destroyed him with logic.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Nah.... I wouldn't have gained anything from "Roasting Him". The Hiking Community is all about bouncing ideas off of each other and learning from experiences! Hike On, Darwin

[@GoneFeralWithSquidly]

I like that way of thinking about it, Darwin. I’ve been in a 25 year process of refining, changing, reducing or expanding my base kit. Now that I’m approaching 50, weight matters in a different way. I’ve had hiking partners who packed an 8 lb 2 man tent just for themselves or a bunch of extra clothes but it was on weekend trips and I said nothing. Thankfully, they didn’t judge me when I had to get dressed outside my bivy or put on the same clothes on day 3. I’ve been seriously re-examining my gear so that it can continue to provide me enjoyment and that’s the point. The gear I had in 1993 when I took my first trip would emphatically NOT bring me enjoyment now. We should all load our packs to maximize our own individual enjoyment ... whatever that is.

[@kdavis4910]

@@DarwinOnthetrail it's so typical that people would negatively comment about something others are passionate about only because it helps them feel good.

[@geoffbrindle9206]

I'm just a weekend wanderer myself. Darwin and other hikers have helped me get my base weight down to 14 lbs. Say what you want but now I can see more on my short jaunts with more comfort and energy. Making the whole experience of nature more enjoyable

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Nice! Glad myself & other hikers can help get you more comfy on the Trail! Hike On, Darwin

[@elliott5045]

12 to 15 lbs is typically a good starting point for base weight. After that, go to Reddit's r/ultralight or other hiking subreddits and ask for a shake down. They can usually bring a person down into the 11-12 lbs range with out any major sacrifices.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

That is a GREAT Starting Point!.... Also, great tip about the Reddit Group! Hike On, Darwin

[@ehtcom]

I carry 15lb of camera gear and electronics, lol. For me backpacking is all about getting away and taking pictures.

[@truepeacenik]

@@ehtcom That’s your luxury. What do you swap to stay mobile and agile?

[@ehtcom]

@@truepeacenik everything else is UL: Base weight without camera gear is under 8lb. I've now scaled down my camera and electronics gear in prep for the PCT (was to be this year but have postponed until 2024 due to covid, I'm Australian btw) So my total base weight is now 13lb. Having said that, small hikes (less than a week) I'll add some extra gear :)

[@kellydiver]

Thank you for this. In some circles, people seem to think that those of us who worry about weight just aren’t tough enough. (I would use their actual words, except their words are universally misogynist.) For many of us, base weight makes the difference between hiking or not hiking. Do you really think Grandma Gatewood could have done what she did - at her age - with a 40-pound pack? In my case, I’m a 57-year-old disabled veteran with a service dog. I carry my own food and gear, plus about half of my dog’s gear. I am as tough as they come (she said humbly) - but weight makes a HUGE difference in my ability to keep going year after year. I really appreciate all the videos about new technology, lighter gear, etc. They make a big difference in my quality of life.

[@sharpridgehomestead]

My baseweight about 5 years ago when I did mostly weekend hikes was around 30lbs and I would do up to about 10 mile days .... last year I was down to about 13.5 lbs and I was hitting 17 miles in very rugged terrain and this year I am at 7.4 lbs

[@xv9dl]

So I guess you have room for your soy latte and skinny jeans. Why admit you are too weak to carry 30 lbs? Gee, men are so weak now.

[@trentwhitney3046]

@@xv9dl anybody can carry 30 pounds. Some people are stupid enough to do it when they don’t have to.

[@fontcaicoya5686]

You just earned my subscription, Darwin. I've only seen a few of your videos, so ya might have brought this up already, but when you admitted to being 275 lbs, and showed that image of yourself... Man. That's me. That was me. At my biggest I was 360. I'm currently, after years of ups and downs and depression, scaling below 239. Dude, I just left my home in Miami three days ago to embark on a journey across the continent in my car and on my feet. I'm on my way to Utah to work as a chef in the desert, a spot called Boulder Mountain Guest Lodge/Sweetwater Kitchen. After season ends in November, I plan to travel to California and do some hiking. I've never gone past Texas. I just recently broke the 5 mile mark on my jogs. I can't... I can't believe I'm where I'm at. The point to all this is, seeing you now... and seeing what you do and what you've gone through... It gives me a piece of hope that I couldn't seem to grasp before. Thank you, Darwin. For the inspiration. And the wisdom. I'm not so terrified and doubtful of my choice to leave home anymore. From a fellow musician. -Font Caicoya (@fontimus if you'd like to follow my progress so far. I was thinking of making videos on my journey.)

[@natehughes7081]

When I have less weight, I go faster. It's the same intensity, but I just go farther or get to the location quicker.

[@PortlyPour]

Its the journey, not the destination. Its not a race.

[@PantsuMann]

I pushed my base weight down to about 8kg in a really nice army pack that weights 2.8kg itself. This channel and some other non ultra light channels really got me test out some gear for the past two years and I'm really happy with where I'm at this season. I might just for the shits get a lighter backpack and test it for comfort, but the one I have no is so nicely padded and rather modular. I'm also using Lighterpack where you can add all your stuffs and pick whatever you need for that typical trip, which adds a fun little game of removing grams lol. Went from 11 to 8 kg with the same bag thanks to that site. I think I will never go full ultralight, but hunting those grams are kinda fun in itself. I might get a new bad for the next summer trip and maybe a quilt, just because of this channel. Darwin has some great tips, and a magnificent beard!

[@jeois411]

You got trolled, Darwin. That first person, probably using a fake avatar, posted a comment on another vlogger's channel (Blackalachian) saying something to the effect of "donating to hikers is like giving to homeless bums... why should I pay for a perfect stranger's vacation?" after he received some trail magic in a video. Obviously, this person is just a troll spreading negativity, and he/she doesn't give a shit about thru hikers.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Well yeah.... But I got to turn their "Troll Comment" into a Video to help & inspire others!... WIN! Hike On, Darwin

[@Madhatter19192]

This person was trolling over on sintax77's channel too.

[@dennisleblanc7933]

Thanks Darwin, you have provided clarity on the term "Base Weight". I am an older beginner hiker whose planning my 1st section hike of the AT in 2018, which I'm pretty excited about. I watched your videos, along with Bigfoot, Early Riser & Dixie's. All four are very helpful in getting on the trail. Hope your PCT hike goes well! Steady Plodder

[@AnimusMachine]

People that don't care about base weight are people that haven't been on a real backpacking hike. And I'm not A KZbin vlogger.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

Like I stated in another comment... Backpacking/Hiking is a total learning experience, filled with tons of Trial & Error. Eventually we all figure out what works best for us! Hike On, Darwin

[@estefangarcia2824]

Exactly, ya you can have fun with ought being light, but come on who wants a 50 pound pack if you coulda have a 35 pound pack, such a difference.

[@bobthe5550]

I've been on many trips and I don't care a lick about base weight. I have 2 young children that I take with me, so I carry enough for all of us so sorry, but your broad generalization fails here.

[@gone4days956]

bob the You take two young kids on a 200+ mile hike?

[@kill_your_ego6578]

bob the lol oh yeah? You dont care about base weight? Lol you're also not doing 20 plus mile days. Some of us like covering ground quickly. We're not pretentious weekenders like you....

[@bunky6765]

I've been backpacking for over 20 years and it's always been about size and weight. This is a great time for backpacking. Never has there been so many companies offering great UL equipment. And now with the internet and KZbin, anyone can find DIY projects that will help make the whole backpacking experience more enjoyable. Some of my friends were slow to accept the move to UL base weight, but for the last couple of years they have witnessed me have more energy at the end of a long hike. Now they have started converting to a lower base weight. It just makes sense to lighten your load and enjoy the hike more. Thanks Darwin for your great videos.

[@getbuck4195]

Bam

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

BOOM DIGGITY! Hike On, Darwin

[@snieves4]

As i get into this hobby one phrase resonates- hike your hike. I need to sleep well at night, i dont need 8-10 pounds of camera gear. My base weight is determined by my comfort and needs then wants. I appreciate you Darwin. Good video series.

[@brianhackit7900]

Stop upsetting Darwin people! His vids are my Ussa. Agh Darwin. It's funny you called that person out and important we explain ourselves. But you'r so much better than that. Her comment is riddled with fundamental errors in logic and that individual is, clearly, not a critical thinker. Buuuuuuut since were talking about it: Hikers at any skill level should be concerned with base weight or total weight in general. Even if people are taking day hikes with the kids. The amount of weight you'r putting on your back will (like it or not) affect how much you enjoy the hike. Anyone who doesn't take the weight on their back into consideration is asking for back problems outright.

[@quimblyjones9767]

The very first line is a *huge* Troll lure! Asking a pathetic person to "be nice" is only going to make them want to be more of a dick. Darwin is a great guy and makes great content, tell _him_ and ignore those who need to hurt others to feel good.

[@rudysal1429]

Lol you make me laugh with your foolishness

[@mazdaspeed69]

Darwin, I very much appreciated this video. I think its hard for people to keep in mind to try what works for you, and to hike your own hike. While UL isn't for everyone, I can say, that it has made a huge difference dropping my base weight, as well as my body weight in my short weekend hikes. Being able to carry more of what I need, and less of what I don't need has greatly improved my experience in both the hike, and in camp. Love your videos, keep em comin!

[@Natedoc808]

I'm really sad and disappointed that you even had to make this video to explain why base weight is an important metric. "Those who don't scrutinize the ounces, cry about the pounds."

[@stevenjohnson7086]

Excellent presentation! Good job not blowing up on criticism. You nailed it when you talked about the difference between long-distance and recreational hiking... the key word in my mind is longevity. That overloaded car going uphill could actually maintain full speed without letting anyone pass it! BUT... in the long run (!) it will overheat, the clutch might start to slip and the engine bearings will see much harder wear. So... a minimalist base weight for long distance hiking will help keep your joints, feet and shoulders from rapidly deteriorating, but load the hell out of your pack for that fun three day trip! You can recover from an heavy Labor Day weekend trip. Not so for 50 pounds over several months or hundreds of miles... you never give your body a break. Interesting analogy! Your discussion was really helpful for me.

[@kylcross]

I've had an injury caused by a heavy pack. It's real. People who don't like lighter packs are less experienced.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

A lot of Hikers get injuries do to Heavy Packs.... The problem is alot of them don't like to admit it.... Backpacking/Hiking is always a learning experience & we all eventually figure out what works best for us! Hike On, Darwin

[@brianhackit7900]

Kyle Cross sorry to here about your injury. I didn't understand how important weight was until my first section hike AFTER Philmont. I kept saying to myself " Self, why are our tents so big?". Wouldn't you know one of the guys on the Philmont trek got a Hernia 3/4 the way through. I'm telling you, Base Weight Base Weigjt Base Weight.

[@drrockyr]

The Philmont approach to backpacking needs a serious overhaul. I cringed seeing 125 pound kids with 60 pound packs. So many of them end up going to the infirmary or being sent home. It wouldn't take expensive gear or compromising safety either. A fresh look at what gear and procedures are necessary for a safe trek could lighten the load for everyone.

[@FrankBergdoll]

I would add - that pack injuries can certainly be caused by too much weight. It's also very important to understand proper pack fit - which I would argue is an even greater cause of injuries. I have a heavy-pack (a Dana Designs pack) that is very well fitted and intended for bringing in heavier gear. I rather carry 60-80lbs in a well-fitted pack than 30lbs in a poorly fitted one. ... of course, I'd rather carry 20lbs in a well-fitted pack :)

[@Ykezha]

had to break off my appalachian trail thru attempt this year because of a way to heavy pack, even if i trimmed it down alot while hiking, it was to late :/ but ya was at 23lb at the start and 17lb when i ended it, so i diddnt break completely down, my pack now is sub 10lb, and i cant wait for my next attempt :)

[@chrisromano8377]

Darwin is right it makes a huge difference! You definitely want to be comfortable with what you have, and may want some added stuff like a mini speaker, but I just did a week on the AT and I carried way too much gear, way too much food... my pack without water was 44lbs, and had a 3li bladder (+6lbs) and another water filtration setup. Over 50lbs I was carrying and I did hurt my knee. It's the constant wear and tear is what gets you. I'm a fit guy but I carried way too much! Thank you for putting this out. Oh and I ran into 7 thru hikers and we actually camped one night at shelter and we talked about hike, and weght... it is important but its definitely not a set standard of weight. Be mindful you need to lug that around for a week or 6months! See what works for you and try a section hike with your gear see how you feel and modify for thru hike. Thanks again Darwin looking forward to seeing you out there somewhere! AT to be continued...

[@backwoodstrails]

Ask my chiropractor and he will tell you, the heavier the backpack the better. Lighter packs are not good, not at all. Heavier packs are much, much better for the bottom line of his business! You will need to be seeing him as you get older.

[@ryanjennings6541]

Id get a new Chiropractor..

[@Extortionism]

Seems like your chiro has a conflict of interest in providing that advice. The more weight you carry, the more often he will expect to see you and earn money.

[@Foxtrottangoabc]

I have a lower back injury. So i have a 60litre pack that takes the weight onto the hips with comfort , it weighs just under 1150g which i reckon is pretty good :)

[@tompava3923]

I don't think those who replied to your comment understand the concept of . . . irony . . .

[@Gibson40]

Nice job! Did my first AT section hike this past spring. Weighed my pack at Amicalola Falls and it was 40#. Didn't think much about it then due to my ego. Blistered out my heels on the approach trail then proceeded to hike the next 54 miles in my camp shoes (walmart slides). Needless to say I ended up with runners knee in both knees and had to cut the hike short. I was seriously walking like a 95 year old. It was a learning (and humbling) experience and I now see the worth of lightening the load. Thanks for all your videos! They're great!

[@jhonyermo]

I am sure JUST ME doesn't care to hear a word of what you have said. Or Ray Jardine and many others.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

I'm sure they don't.... Unfortunately. Oh well, it inspired a great topic that I think we can All learn from. That's what the Hiking Community is all about! Hike On, Darwin

[@stevenews5910]

LeoYermo Adam It's a free country. Get off the channel or post constructive criticism please. Thank you.

[@jhonyermo]

A FREE COUNTY? For ONLY YOU ? I will post whatever I please. I will NOT get off the channel. As you mentioned, it is a free country. YOUR opinion more important than mine? Eat my shorts. Thank you.

[@MrBiker454]

Steve McGuinness you misunderstood what he said (so did i at first). "JUST ME" was the commenter darwin was referring to in the video.

[@jhonyermo]

Thanks Brett.

[@adamd8587]

Great points Darwin!! When I first went on a backpacking trip at the age of 19 with some friends (Virginia Triple Crown), we had no idea what we were doing. Change of clothes for everyday, wrong kind of food, improper hydrating techniques, the list goes on. Fast forwarding nearly ten years, the difference is astounding. I immensely enjoy just being outdoors for for long periods of time, and simply put less weight makes it more fun. If I would have bought that slightly more expensive gear from square one, not only would I have enjoyed myself more, I would have actually saved money. For myself, It is a fun challenge to see how low I can get my base weight and still keep the comforts I desire. Now days I hover around 10-12lbs, depending on the season. I don't do as many extended trips as I would like, but for me it is just common sense to carry less weight. The hardest part about backpacking now days is finding the time and a compatible person to go with! Until the undetermined day comes that I can embark on the thru-hike attempt of my own, I am going to keep trying to get that base weight lower and learn as much as I can. It is the vloggers such as yourself that makes that time in between and then hopefully the time during a lot easier. Thank you for all of your time! Keep it up.

[@slappymcface5681]

I’m not a light weight guy, I’m a pack for comfort guy. Being said, I’m not a hike 2000 miles guy either. Usually like two days out two back, or over nighters.

[@toferj7441]

Dude. Great video. I kept thinking that those commenters you pointed out, have probably never gone out for more than a weekend. Hell, I've never done more than a 45 mile section hike, and my base weight was front and center in my mind. Keep trucking man!

[@chemistryflavored]

I’m just now getting into backpacking and this has been so helpful! I’ve become neurotic when trying to determine what gear to ultimately purchase (spreadsheets with calculations are involved) and I feel a bit better knowing that while my base weight will be important, I don’t need to lose sleep over it!

[@johnmclain250]

I prefer long-lasting and durable gear over light weight. (But I'll happily pay extra for stuff that is both durable and light weight, hence why I love titanium in most of my gear when aluminum won't cut it.) Personally I started with a 40lb base weight, but with some gear upgrades cut it to a 30lb base weight. Perfectly comfortable carrying that indefinitely, but I'm a big guy. Add 3L of water and a week or so of food and I'm at about 50lbs, which will wear on me eventually, but not before I can finish an extended hike usually.

[@douglasstraight3648]

Well said, Darwin. Love your videos. Thanks.

[@dawrlw23]

As a military man I have always had that sense of bravado that the heavier the pack the more of a man I am but as I get older, I get wiser as most of us do. I am still required to log many miles with a heavy pack since I am still Active duty but on my weekend endeavors I strive to go sub 10 lbs. base weight. Don’t let the bitter people influence you negatively, just be you and continue doing what you love to do and keep making the great videos.

[@DarwinOnthetrail]

The heavier the pack the more of a slow, crippled, old man!....lol They didn't influence me negative, they inspired me to make this video helping others! Thanks for Watching! Hike On, Darwin

[@neildenton5524]

Well said! I love watching pre Thru Hike gear list vs post Thru Hike gear lists and seeing what gets dropped... almost always due to weight.

[@cwoodard428]

Darwin you also have people like myself that are going the ultra light route because of back problems or knee problems or other issues but they don't want to give up hiking and being out in nature . Thanks for another great video HIKE THE PLANET !!!!!!!

[@UndineAlmani]

I know this is 3 years later, but in case anyone is bored enough to just read the comments for fun... :-D Base weight is so important to me. Because I have an old injury on my knee and feet. I could not walk for a long time. And I can't stress it. I simply can't. All this incredible superlight gear was my way back into hiking and I LOVE LOVE LOVE it! Never am I going back to a normal aka unnecessarily heavy pack as I had before. No way. And no, I don't give a rat's butt whether this is a pissing contest for some (very few) people. For all the others it is helpful, awesome or - in my case - a lifesaver, enabling, healthier than all other options (including not hiking, which I would be doing without lightweight gear). I don't care if someone has a 1/2 oz lighter pack. I care whether my pack is as light as it can be for me. If I have to throw a lot of money at it to make that happen, it's worth every penny.

[@freaksh0w398]

I just got into your videos and I’ve genuinely liked what I watched. This video though, this made me a subscriber. Your responses to the comments are spot on. I used to be very active in scouting so I’ve done my share of hikes and tried to explain to the newbies and their parents why base weight is important. Most parents had the same attitude as the gym guy and didn’t understand why their kids didn’t want to go on the weekend hikes anymore. Might not mean much on the internet but you’ve just earned my respect and thank you for the great content.

[@garylipham4447]

My wife and I are planning a thru hike (AT) in 2019. We are both in our 60's. Lighter gear is VERY important to us, but we are also focusing on being as comfortable as possible. That is why we are going to be carrying slightly heavier pads than normally associated with ultralight hiking. A good night's sleep is important to making it all the way Maine.

[@JimHep]

This is a solid explanation. I tend to pack heavy, because I’m used to the weight at work from work. I’m not going on extended trips and long miles though. Just not my style, I enjoy getting in the woods and don’t need to get miles and days off to enjoy myself. This explanation makes perfect sense for the two different styles. Spot on.

[@MarcelAbraas]

Love your video's, Darwin, thank you soo much. I think it's important you react the way you did to comments which you could have just shrugged off as too annoying or too agressive to be bothered with. You look for the point someone is trying to make and address that instead of the tone it is presented with - hats off, wish more people did that online. As for base weight - I'm just trying to get into camping and hiking myself (I'm a runner) even though I do find I'm extremely inspired by the long distance hikes you show us. Some day. I found out the hard way that even for short hikes, especially for a total beginner like me, baseweight is important. I once tried going for a weekend hike, without training (well, trained for a half marathon, but that's completely different), with what I then saw as normal backpack - but soon realised that 40 pounds on your back is not enjoyable at all. For me, it wasn't even something I could manage, so that trip totally failed and put me off hiking for a long time. I do want some comfort, but the best type of comfort I can imagine, is feeling I am just enjoying the walk itself, instead of being a packhorse only focussed on 'getting there'. So keeping base weight in mind can even help people take the step to start hiking at all, by making it comfortable *enough* to try.

[@bradbuskey9827]

I am not yet a big or experienced hiker or backpacker, however, this was probably the most informative and important video I have watched on hiking. I am trying to get myself to a point of doing a long (for me) hike and eventually, when I can get the time off, do a full of one of the big 3. I am a ways off, so I can take my time and get gear as I can afford to. Explaining the different situations and gear for these hikes are great. I am also a big guy. Ex-football player in college and now someone who sits too much, I have started on the most important job of dropping my body's base weight. My goal is to get to a great area near (2 hour drive) where I live - Red River Gorge, Natural Bridge and Danial Boone State Park and day hiking or overnighting just to get used to it. This video allowed me to RELAX from the worry of getting my backpack weight down to just getting out and doing the hikes and enjoying them.

[@JJDanjer]

Hey Darwin, I'm currently starting a trek across the country, based on the American Discovery Trail. Today is actually day 2 and for the last week Ive been focusing on your videos and tips especially base weight. I would like to thank you for the info and the inspiration. I have to get rid of some more gear and my hammock setup yet, (I brought both a tent and hammock to test them out) needless to say, I found out the hard way that I'm not as strong as I thought I was. But through your videos I feel like I'm finally dialed in. May the force be with you buddy. :)

[@alexcoons3257]

Couldn't agree more with you. I got out of backpacking when I was younger because I struggled getting comfy. I was carrying about a 22 lbs base. When I got back into within recent years with weight in mind, I found a new passion for backpacking. Now with a 9 lbs base, I firmly believe weight matters to some extent. The extent being your budget. Like you have already shown, there is so many ways to save money. One way is get a sewing machine and pick up a new skill while you're at it. Thanks for the videos!

[@Lille4008]

Thank you for the great explanation of your point of view. I am planning a thru hike and base weight is a big concern of mine, mostly it is hard to evaluate what the right cost to benefit ratio is when buying new gear vs using old or cheaper options.Also, please don't pay attention to people posting hateful comments they don't matter to any of us here.

[@bryanmegonigal8870]

Great video. Even though my "long distance" hiking is 80 to 100 miles, I think about my base weight often. Just getting older, 41, my body does better when I have less to carry. Keeps my hiking and injury free. I am by no means UL, but where I can, I like to shed weight. Thanks for the videos.

[@tinyyellowtree4076]

Thanks to you and other YTbers I've been considering everything I might bring and how many things I can get to serve two to three purposes. I am a long way off yet, but this gives me lots of time to buy over time/experiment/adjust/practice for a light and well considered load. I also really appreciate your showing that you overcame the bigger you. I am on my way down that path so I can do the PCT too, and your sharing that was very encouraging. Always love your vids, Darwin!

[@craigschuman5851]

Outstanding video. One of the things I like about your channel is the engineers perspective that you approach each session with. Thank you!

[@TheLadyLynx]

Another great video! Hahahaha I loved that picture of the hiker at 4:02! I wonder if he had to put on his blinkers and pull over to let other hikers pass....

[@danielbauguess7597]

Thanks Darwin, I’ve been appreciating your videos on going light on the cheap! I used to scoff at the “gram weenies” as we used to call them. Now I’m in my mid 40’s and have a bum knee, so getting lighter has been a necessity to stay on the trail. Your videos are always succinct and informative, keep up the good work!

[@knightinthewoods3288]

Thank you for breaking this down. I'm getting ready for the AT, and I appreciate this. Thank you.

[@PaulKentSkates]

I used to long distance tour via longboard with a backpack. Aiming to keep everything light, made it possible to skate up the Andes, and more importantly it allowed me to steer on the way down those passes. (Long treks on skate decks) :) As for working harder, that's proven wrong, you can get a better workout by allowing yourself to move faster and it becomes easier to work harder. There is research with decent stats. oh, to answer your questions, I have been fanatical about base weight since 2006. My base weight is 14 lbs on my next trek which has cold weather and will be in the rainiest reigon in Canada. We need to carry 8 days of food and up to 4 liters of water or risk falling behind tides. Honestly I'm hoping to shave another pound. I'm changing some gear up. Keep up the great work Darwin, I've been at this for a while now, but I've learned a few things from your blogs over the past days, and you have reaffirmed a lot too.