Basing: Mars/Red Planet base

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Duncan Rhodes Painting Academy

Duncan Rhodes Painting Academy

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@gunzilla7760
@gunzilla7760 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Duncan is a Bob Ross for nerds.
@carlosbarreales8752
@carlosbarreales8752 2 жыл бұрын
Accurate as fuck.
@benrichardson5662
@benrichardson5662 2 жыл бұрын
Even better because he's still on the mortal coil.
@scraglor1
@scraglor1 Жыл бұрын
I have said this to my gaming group too. So relaxing
@ryankrankowski3294
@ryankrankowski3294 Жыл бұрын
@@carlosbarreales8752 No way. That title goes to Goobertown Hobbies. Duncan is awesome, but Goobertown really has those Bob Ross vibes.
@bigdaveyeo350
@bigdaveyeo350 5 ай бұрын
just place a little happy ork here oh doesn't he look happy 😊
@mityakiselev
@mityakiselev 4 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful! Please do more basing tutorials, like a forest, snow/ice, volcano landscape, and so on. That would be neat
@maizetoken377
@maizetoken377 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a Duncan Rhodes snow base.
@maizetoken377
@maizetoken377 Жыл бұрын
#twothindrifts
@agent5333
@agent5333 Жыл бұрын
Check his website
@mityakiselev
@mityakiselev Жыл бұрын
@@agent5333 can't buy anything :(
@AquamentusZero
@AquamentusZero 2 ай бұрын
I usually apply a coat of watered down PVA glue on top of sand, too. That way the sand gets sealed and won't brush off easily when painting it. Of course, this also means you'll need more dyring time.
@TN-gr1xh
@TN-gr1xh 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Duncan thins out his glue just like he does to his paints. "Now we are about to eat come chips. But first we're going thin down the tartar sauce with some vinegar like this. Now you're ready to eat some chips."
@MrAtomicwalrus
@MrAtomicwalrus 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, very helpful. Love the extra step with the atmospheric weathering on the miniature.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 4 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@benroberts6770
@benroberts6770 4 жыл бұрын
really good video love the geonosis idea
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Ben 😊
@tabletoptrilobite9816
@tabletoptrilobite9816 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on some D&D models? I’d love to see how you’d tackle a red dragon
@CrimsonTemplar2
@CrimsonTemplar2 4 жыл бұрын
Or an Illithid. Any of the iconic D&D monsters from wizkids would be great to see you tackle.
@banjoe3830
@banjoe3830 4 жыл бұрын
look guys its Tiamat the dragon its the only thing Venger is scared of
@jacksonandrews8714
@jacksonandrews8714 4 жыл бұрын
Wait there's a DRAGON MODEL?!?!
@tabletoptrilobite9816
@tabletoptrilobite9816 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonandrews8714 have you not heard of the wizkids models?
@mrfister1234
@mrfister1234 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonandrews8714 I work at a medium sized hobby store and I can tell you that there are ALOT of dragon models for dnd. And yes they are by wizkids
@shruggingatlasminiatures
@shruggingatlasminiatures 4 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial - solid basing advice is always welcome - for far too long i avoided doing any basing for fear of making a mess of a finished model, but really adds tonnes of character!
@dmwaters
@dmwaters 10 ай бұрын
This was a great tutorial. My main comments having tried it out would be: (i) the base wasn't as saturated as I expected (looked more like a damp iron rich soil that a dry arid landscape) and (ii) the pva I used to hold down the sand kept reactivating (exposing the base beneath). I solved the first problem by applying a vibrant watered-down red-orange contrast paint liberally over the base until the it really popped (in my case I used Nuclear Sunrise from Army Painters' speed paints). For the latter, I would recommend a second prime to properly adhere the sand to the base
@slimjimkirky86
@slimjimkirky86 3 жыл бұрын
I've not seen that dry stippling technique before. Such high quality, yet approachable content. You are an excellent educator!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jim. We are glad it helps.
@plaidpvcpipe3792
@plaidpvcpipe3792 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love more basing tutorials! I think a rocky highland basing tutorial would be great.
@itsthequenchiest3270
@itsthequenchiest3270 4 жыл бұрын
Basing tutorials are amazing! Perfect pace, and very easy to follow!!! Looking for more amazing videos, amazing job Duncan and team!!!
@brothercaptain
@brothercaptain 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I haven't based my Adeptus Mechanicus yet. This is perfect!!! Thanks Duncan.
@chrishatton8197
@chrishatton8197 4 жыл бұрын
What a great video for basing! This is similar to how I do my Admech bases but without the dry brushing! Thanks Duncan, keep up the good work!
@JoeyFangaz
@JoeyFangaz 4 жыл бұрын
I used the Citadel one you had for 40K for my 133rd Lambdon Lions. Good to see a difference and I’ll use this next
@kylebroflovski5333
@kylebroflovski5333 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic, I’d love to see some more of these like grassland or plains, I have so many bolt action models to get to basing
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Kyle. We have plenty of basing tutorials on our website (duncanrhodes.com) similar to this one. In fact we have grasslands, snow, urban rubble, forest floor to name but a few. I'm pretty sure we would have you covered 😊
@johnkelley9877
@johnkelley9877 4 жыл бұрын
The base looks great Duncan! The paints give the base a nice muted red color and the weathering has a nice dusty appearance to it. Thanks for sharing this.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 4 жыл бұрын
No problem John, glad it helps 😊
@mrplastico7867
@mrplastico7867 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic. Thank you. I agree with previous commentors, tutorials on forest, snow, volcano etc would be awesome.
@hacknslash318
@hacknslash318 4 жыл бұрын
Duncan you are such a good instructor. Excellent results and I really liked how you blended the Martian Ironearth in by using water. Excellent. I will definitely do this for my Adepticus Mechanicus.
@abramnotabraham2253
@abramnotabraham2253 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this. More basing techniques please!
@williambibens4508
@williambibens4508 4 жыл бұрын
You ever think about how some of us take real rock glue them onto a base and then paint them to look like real rocks?
@Shriiiiiiiiiiiimp
@Shriiiiiiiiiiiimp 2 жыл бұрын
Please do more basing tutorials. I enjoy your techniques and it would be great to see more base styles.
@TheDualscar
@TheDualscar 4 жыл бұрын
my admec army really apreciates this tutorial, keep being an inspiration Duncan :)
@thewaaaghproductions2285
@thewaaaghproductions2285 4 жыл бұрын
First! Best mini painting channel!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 4 жыл бұрын
yay for being first. And thank you :-)
@thewaaaghproductions2285
@thewaaaghproductions2285 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Duncan!
@notyos
@notyos 4 жыл бұрын
Someone who says 1st and is actually 1st... *Impossible*
@seanmeadows129
@seanmeadows129 4 жыл бұрын
Even though I can do bases I still learnt extra tips here. Thank you for these insights Duncan. Much appreciated.
@RosieJonesRules
@RosieJonesRules 4 жыл бұрын
Duncan I'd love to see some Middle-Earth, the new Eomer especially!!
@mattpk1609
@mattpk1609 3 жыл бұрын
This is the third time i was searching for something specific and your channel shows up :D you can read minds in the future which is next level psyker stuff
@mb8317
@mb8317 4 жыл бұрын
Always love your videos! It takes such basic stuff and you do your magic to make it look much more advanced
@boltthebirb7233
@boltthebirb7233 4 жыл бұрын
Really great video Duncan! Another option is to use pigment powder on the base and feet of the miniature. It creates a really great dusty effect. Cheers!
@Outrage82
@Outrage82 4 жыл бұрын
how do you bind the pigment to the base and legs?
@boltthebirb7233
@boltthebirb7233 4 жыл бұрын
@@Outrage82 I find leaving the model as is after applying the pigment looks the best. It makes it really dusty. If you are going to be gaming a lot and need to bind the pigment there are a few brands that sell pigment binder. I've used Vallejo Pigment Binder. it's okay. I would like to try Pigment Fixer Enamel Fluid by AK interactive or Mig Pigment Fixer. I think they may work better as they are enamel / solvent based and run into cracks, flow well. I would wear a mask or use in well ventilated area if using enamels. Cheers!
@RevanR
@RevanR 4 жыл бұрын
Level 100 boss basing techniques
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you Reven R. We hope it helps 😊
@RevanR
@RevanR 4 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA your welcome, this is obviously help me on how to basing
@hanschow5457
@hanschow5457 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the tutorial! This style of base will look beautiful as a contrast to the deep green of my budding Dark Angels force. Is it possible for you to do a miniature varnishing tutorial? I know that preserving a splendid paint job is an area of concern with many painters and I'm sure an experienced gentleman such as yourself would have some amazing tips and tricks to share with the painting populace. Cheers!
@beameyzed
@beameyzed 4 жыл бұрын
Really loved the video and would love to see more basing tutorials!
@EmpireofWargames
@EmpireofWargames 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing tutorial Duncan, I will use this for my Tau army with some tweeks here and there. Please consider doing more Basing tutorials
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 4 жыл бұрын
Hi. We have done many on our website (duncanrhodes.com) covering a large manner of basing techniques 😊 Glad you enjoyed this one
@sword-brother7366
@sword-brother7366 4 жыл бұрын
Wow that looks great! I would love to see you do an urban rubble base!
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Warzombie73. We actually did a full tutorial for the Academy (duncanrhodes.com) on an Urban Rubble base...it proved quite popular which is always nice :-)
@sword-brother7366
@sword-brother7366 4 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA Thanks I just joined!
@daedcpl
@daedcpl 4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Exactly what I needed, thank you!
@sampacitti9513
@sampacitti9513 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for this video, I’m hopefully getting some admech skitarii rangers for Xmas and this’ll be perfect, thx
@cristhianmlr
@cristhianmlr 4 жыл бұрын
Farsight Enclaves approved.
@russiandoptkapro4338
@russiandoptkapro4338 4 жыл бұрын
That's an awesome looking B1 battle droid! Will you ever potentially do a video showing how you've painted it?
@TheRealJamie23
@TheRealJamie23 4 жыл бұрын
Kick ass! I would love a snow / ice tutorial!
@michaelcrowe6796
@michaelcrowe6796 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!! I think I will apply this to my Bloodthirster base.
@vthunder4238
@vthunder4238 3 жыл бұрын
I’m planning to use this for my desecrator knight and I can’t wait. Thank you so much
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed! It is nice to be able to comment on your videos now Duncan! :)
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
Happy to help!
@johnschweiger1079
@johnschweiger1079 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I would love to see your take on how to do snow bases
@jameskeatley1834
@jameskeatley1834 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic! Been looking for a good red earth scheme for my new necron army
@Flight_of_Icarus
@Flight_of_Icarus 4 жыл бұрын
The lore for my Skitarii is that their actual forge world is an ocean planet, with densely packed underwater forge cities reminiscent of Rapture from Bioshock. The planet itself, however, is protected by its fortified moon where most of the Skitarii and even Titan Legions are based, with only specialist amphibious forces planetside. So I've been wondering about doing lunar bases for my first, normal Skitarii and their equipment, and I've been looking for ideas/tutorials. Though I could just follow the Martian tutorial and paint it grey, it seems a little boring that way. Once I've got some experience under my belt and some more material, I plan to come back and kitbash proper underwater Skitarii for planetside forces.
@leorex8130
@leorex8130 Жыл бұрын
Any progress on that? :)
@TriptuneRadio
@TriptuneRadio Жыл бұрын
What did you end up doing?
@AnthonyArchermagic
@AnthonyArchermagic Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, it is exactly what I need for Legions Imperialis.
@salute31
@salute31 9 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial for a great looking barren terrain/Mars surface base. Only 2 questions, apart from the paints you used that are listed in the video description what undercoat you use before starting to add details to the base? Do you have a preferred brand you like to use more? Thanks in advance.
@29salonica
@29salonica 4 жыл бұрын
When I saw the way you applied the pva glue I thought you were going to say to apply two thin coats!😁😃😂
@jacksonandrews8714
@jacksonandrews8714 4 жыл бұрын
He absolutely did. Your mortal eyes simply couldn't comprehend it
@grecoromanlegionary9230
@grecoromanlegionary9230 4 жыл бұрын
Wooo 158th! Awesome tutorial Duncan!
@cartouchator
@cartouchator 4 жыл бұрын
I'll be copying this but wasteland style, same technique but more brown colours :)
@soundwave221
@soundwave221 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome base exactly what I was looking for.
@robertevans3173
@robertevans3173 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, for the content. this is super helpful and inspiring.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
@MajorBorris
@MajorBorris 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome looking base!
@Jordyb234
@Jordyb234 10 ай бұрын
The best mars bases around
@pedroalbicastrense353
@pedroalbicastrense353 4 жыл бұрын
Superbe and simple
@adron1261
@adron1261 4 жыл бұрын
When duncan dials your basing up to 10, using the exact same paints and textures. Well now I have some ideas to improve my technique.
@hannuruotsalainen9884
@hannuruotsalainen9884 4 жыл бұрын
duncan... stop reading my dream journal you... I was thinking at work today " hmm I would like to do Baal themed bases for my BA models.. need to look up guide for that when I get home " Oh.. Duncan has uploaded.. oh nice just what I needed :)
@raphiree1046
@raphiree1046 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Duncan, great vid! I'd love to see your take on an ice field basing
@TheRk283
@TheRk283 Жыл бұрын
Art attack flash backs, lol the chills.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA Жыл бұрын
Chills in a good way right? 😂
@TheRk283
@TheRk283 Жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA nostalgia chills. Thanks for the great video.
@samryan8703
@samryan8703 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Duncan! I am about to start painting my mortarion miniature but I am doing him in a Black and Bronze scheme similar to the black legion. I wondered if anyone (including Duncan) had any ideas of how to highlight black armour, I was thinking grey but I'm not entirely confident on how to approach it
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 4 жыл бұрын
Grey is a good choice. Start with a darker grey then move up to a mid-tone grey. If you want some spot highlights this go up to a lighter grey. Blue can also work as a highlight colour too :-)
@samryan8703
@samryan8703 4 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA thanks a lot Duncan! Much appareciated. Big fan of the channel, please keep up the excellent work
@CloneShockTrooper
@CloneShockTrooper 4 жыл бұрын
keep these wonderful videos coming Duncan :-)
@kaijucobalt2064
@kaijucobalt2064 18 сағат бұрын
Thanks for making this video! Using it to make Baal bases for my Blood Angels 🩸🪽
@MegaRadisic
@MegaRadisic 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! Thanks!
@Senbei01
@Senbei01 4 жыл бұрын
A bit of a late question (so it will likely get buried), but have you tried using inexpensive makeup brushes for drybrushing? They're a good deal softer than most drybrushes, but also often a lot larger.
@blarfnugle5653
@blarfnugle5653 4 жыл бұрын
Remember to apply two thin layers of glue for the best coverage 😂😂
@lancetekk
@lancetekk 4 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, got me in the first half :)
@derphurr8814
@derphurr8814 4 жыл бұрын
It's not as silly as it sounds. Applying a second layer of PVA glue on top of the sand can be a good way to seal it in to prevent it from wearing off over time.
@timothybyrne9764
@timothybyrne9764 4 жыл бұрын
When i get some money someday, i may try to kitbash some army with this method of basing. Really been meaning to play red faction again.
@KilgoreVoid
@KilgoreVoid 4 жыл бұрын
I can see some Tharks hanging out on these bases. Well done as always, Duncan.
@danielmarsic9442
@danielmarsic9442 11 ай бұрын
Hi Duncan, thank you for all your amazing videos. question. I used this method for my base, however, finished it off with a pigment powder to give it that dry dusty feel - looked amazing. however, after i let the pigment fixer dry, it now has that flat look, almost satin look. should I just not use fixer and just see how it goes? I use them to game, but not often. hope you can help. thank you mate.
@shaunhutton2201
@shaunhutton2201 4 жыл бұрын
Stuff ordered, using this for my legio mortis titans!
@edwindrood2816
@edwindrood2816 4 жыл бұрын
Great topic! Ice worlds and Tron word next
@jmc7034
@jmc7034 4 жыл бұрын
Just got to love it even if it makes my effort look pathetic 😁😍
@BeforetheStorm.
@BeforetheStorm. 4 жыл бұрын
Yay. Finally a proper technique for mars, not like GW's tutorial where it's too flat and plain.Thanks
@loupiscanis9449
@loupiscanis9449 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you DRPA .
@cashs2599
@cashs2599 4 жыл бұрын
Can you paint games workshops Middle Earth minitures? By the way love the vids! Keep it up!
@sergeysmirnov1062
@sergeysmirnov1062 3 жыл бұрын
One question, probably stupid but, you said that after undercoating I'd have to do my miniature next but... what does prevent me from painting the miniature without a base and finishing the paint of the base first before then as the final step gluing the finished miniature onto the finished base? I would imagine it would be easier to reach everywhere this way
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sergey. For the video tutorial, we don't put a miniature on the base so you can clearly see what we are doing and the miniature doesn't obstruct your view. Generally, we assemble the miniature on the base and then undercoat it as one. Once the miniature as been painted, we do the base. We like to glue items like rocks or skulls on first and then we add PVA glue carefully, dip it in sand and shake off the access and then add whatever colours we want to the base 😊
@sergeysmirnov1062
@sergeysmirnov1062 3 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA Hi, thanks for the quick reply :D But I was more meaning to ask if there is a reason *why* we undercoat the mini and base as one and not first paint both and *then* glue them together as I at least think it would be easier to reach everywhere like this, sorry for the misunderstanding
@BlackHoleEye
@BlackHoleEye 2 жыл бұрын
Question: If I wanted to make a copper-based desert planet, rather than a iron-based desert planet like Mars, would it be possible to paint over the Martian Ironearth with something like Nihilakh Oxide or other similar greens?
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the only way to know if that'll work is to test it. I bet you could get some great results! Maybe try a lighter crackle paint base and experiment 😊
@marcovicari3958
@marcovicari3958 4 жыл бұрын
Hi! thanks for your amazing video tutorials! I wanted to ask you where can I find, and if you can recommend a particular brand, a sand for the bases like the one in the video? thank you so much!
@captainberrios
@captainberrios 4 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about your painting posture. Does your back hurt? Do you have any tips for a painter who struggles leaning over the models?
@TooMiniModels
@TooMiniModels Ай бұрын
DId you wash the slate or rocks before applying?
@kiesarisunny13
@kiesarisunny13 3 жыл бұрын
I may play Black Legion but dammit I love Mars, thanks for this guide
@zippyspinifex
@zippyspinifex 4 жыл бұрын
Now to find course English sand in Australia.
@stevenjones6982
@stevenjones6982 3 жыл бұрын
That was really helpful! Thanks!
@maizetoken377
@maizetoken377 Жыл бұрын
Dang! Looks good!
@rasmuslewenhagen647
@rasmuslewenhagen647 3 жыл бұрын
Any good tips on where u can get nice flat rocks?
@pedroalbicastrense353
@pedroalbicastrense353 4 жыл бұрын
AT the end of vidéo when u brush the legs of the droid , i think the effect ils better if done with pigments i prefer this method . It's my opinion , what do u think about ? Thanks for this cool vidéo
@Panjax
@Panjax 4 жыл бұрын
If I don't want to use crackle paint, what colour should I use instead of the terracotta tone technical paint Martian Ironearth?
@FlynnMTaggart
@FlynnMTaggart 4 жыл бұрын
Praise be to the Omnisiah
@franktheundead
@franktheundead 7 ай бұрын
Great tutorial, one thing to note. I've followed the guide step by step and you're base seems to much more Orange / Red? I can't seem to replicate the saturation.
@MrDjpaulh1982
@MrDjpaulh1982 4 жыл бұрын
How do you glue the model to the base. If you use super glue does it do that strange thing where it makes the plastic go white.
@guleri
@guleri 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice to see how you managed to do this base. Is there a trick for making the crackle paint to stick on the base when drybrushing? It sometimes flakes off when I try it, so I have stopped using them for now. Don't feel I am very hard with my brushes either.
@DuncanRhodesDRPA
@DuncanRhodesDRPA 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Erik. It could be that the dry brush you are using has stiff bristles. We haven't encountered this problem ourselves...yet lol
@guleri
@guleri 4 жыл бұрын
@@DuncanRhodesDRPA Thanks for the tip, will try with a softer brush next time.
@JulianDHenao
@JulianDHenao 3 жыл бұрын
Justo lo que buscaba!
@superkamigoru
@superkamigoru 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video on how to paint death company
@SunBearerofEl
@SunBearerofEl 4 жыл бұрын
That looks fun to do. How about a jungle base ?
@TheTabCrawler
@TheTabCrawler 4 жыл бұрын
Prais the Omishia - Roger Roger I shall now start a Mechanicum army as i always wanted to.
@joan500x
@joan500x 4 жыл бұрын
Have you tried dark red ocre pigment from Vallejo? It is a great tool for mars bases
@hellmuth666
@hellmuth666 4 жыл бұрын
+1
@Outrage82
@Outrage82 4 жыл бұрын
how do you bind this to the base after applying pigment?
@joan500x
@joan500x 4 жыл бұрын
@@Outrage82 I drop some airbrush thinner into the base. But since the thinner makes the pigments a little bit darker, when it dries I apply a second coat of pigments again on top of it. As the thinner becomes sticky when it dries, the second layer of pigments does not fall
@Outrage82
@Outrage82 4 жыл бұрын
@@joan500x nice! will try!
@MegaRadisic
@MegaRadisic 4 жыл бұрын
Oooooohhhh a droid!!?? Does that mean we are getting some more Legion tutorials? :D
@mrfister1234
@mrfister1234 4 жыл бұрын
He has quite a bit of legion tutorials in his website
@MegaRadisic
@MegaRadisic 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrfister1234 But... you gotta ask yourself... is it ever enough? :D XD
@biggrundo6667
@biggrundo6667 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Duncan, GW really lost a great big gem when you left.
@14dcook
@14dcook 2 жыл бұрын
How would you get the same color as Martian Ironearth to apply to other texture paints?
@TheGravespawn
@TheGravespawn 4 жыл бұрын
Roger Roger
@CrimsonTemplar2
@CrimsonTemplar2 4 жыл бұрын
Great technique.
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