bass DONT care about your Fishing LINE SIZE

[@codster200]

*I was pleased with Trilene mono line **enjoyable.fishing** recommend performance (25 lb. test) because it offers smooth casting with no tangles/bird's nest in the spool. And, knots can be tied effectively with ease. I would recommend.*

[@riccochet704]

I've been saying this for YEARS. Bass don't give a shit about your line, or anything else attached to it. They see your lure, and if they feel like eating it they'll eat it. Take a good look at a A-Rig. All that wire and shit. Nope. Line doesn't matter to fish.

[@jackene415]

Amen

[@FishHuntFreedom]

Finally someone speaks the truth. I’ve always said the bass don’t care about the line because if they did then they would also care about the 5/0 EWG hook and 1/2oz pegged weight 😆

[@TheSargeOnTheWater]

Oh wow… i keep saying this but people dont want to accept it 😂 Big ass hook sticking out and fish worried about line 😂

[@Dabbin916]

Nice fish brotha did you catch that one in sac?

[@FishHuntFreedom]

@@Dabbin916 what’s up man! Caught it on a dropshot in 25ft last November at Berryesa. Probably pulled out 25-30 fish that day, all weighing 2-4lbs.

[@Spiritbro77]

I am fairly sure you are correct. Due to circumstance and bringing the wrong set ups I had to adapt last year on a fishing trip with my friend. We were shore fishing a weedy lake. So I cut off what I had intended on using and tied on a weightless 6 inch senko. On 40 pound braid, White in color. Straight braid. The water is very clear there. I caught my biggest bass of the year. Over 5 pounds and here in Ohio that is a pretty decent bass. At least for me. I'm sure seeing the line might spook them a little sometimes but I don't think it happens nearly as often as we might think. I started using straight braid more often after that. I do use braid to leader but if the water is tinted some I try straight braid first.

[@dovejoshua]

Fish being "line shy" and high viz braid have always seemed like contradictions to me. Thanks for the clarity on the matter B Lat!!

[@gabe.digital]

This

[@mattman8822]

I feel like I need an entire crash course for the matching rods, reels, line and baits lol

[@kmw5100]

I pretty much only choose my line based on what my setup is rated for and I usually shoot the gap, for example my 7'3" medium heavy casting setup gives you a guideline of 10-20lb test, so I use 14 lb test fluorocarbon because It sits nicely between those two, doesn't hinder my casting distance, and has yet to fail me for its intended use. on my 6'10" medium-light spinning setup I use 10 lb test because it's rated for 4-12 lb test, and 10 has worked out plenty well for all my applications there so far. that probably has a lot to do with the fact that the lures i'm using on those given setups work well with those line sizes, but I just try not to overcomplicate things, really.

[@tilled6695]

as weird as it sounds, I have always used 20-30lb spider wire braid in stealth. Never have a problem and i never lose lures. Its always been my preference. The lake I wish has snags and rocks everywhere, just works for me. For my budget, never losing lures makes everything worth it, and I cant say I have noticed any problems.

[@intothekey]

I was debating on just doing this as well.

[@freshandsaltyjohnny]

Do you run a thick leader like 20-25lb ?

[@H8er-Maker]

I agree, line diameter affects the bait performance more than anything.

[@kirkalexander3431]

I think it’s funny how people argue about mono vs fluoro when their suspending twitchbait has 3 trebles hanging off it’s belly but they don’t want the bass to examine the line.. I’ve never seen a baitfish carrying treble hooks. Thanks Blat.

[@rayhollis3923]

I agree with your thought process. Bass looking at the line instead of a big ole hook sticking out, spot on. love the music man.

[@TheMrZanshin]

Lol. Right!?! That tiny line is spooking the fish but the three giant treble hooks aren’t lol.

[@dinkdynasty]

You are starting to hit subjects that will help. Love this!

[@chriswalls5831]

Ive had 12 lb and 20 lb trilene break going to seagur eventually

[@korymacias8251]

I feel like in Central California line matters the pressure out here is a little different than everywhere else in the country

[@maxescamilla4597]

SoCal seems like that as well.

[@MichaelBrown-mi5jl]

Awesome explanation! Thanks for your time!

[@fishguy9704]

I agree for the most part, but if your dropshoting with braid they will see it. I've watched bass come up to my dropshot worm when I was fishing it on braid and it turned away. But when it was on fluro it committed.

[@myriammorrison9840]

Agree on every point!

[@johncoopes1056]

I agree to a point. If you’re drop shotting here in Michigan and the water in certain places here has 40’ clarity it matters On moving baits it doesn’t. If it did why would they hit a A rig?

[@poepflater]

My tackle are mostly from around 1990.... lines were different back then so were the spools... my spools are designed to hold up to .45mm on some reels.... but that is only something like 15lbs in dinosaur days... Luckily I have a box full of old line

[@comfortablynumb9342]

Line size affects the action and depth of lures. And there are times that fish are line shy, IDK about bass but saltwater fish like snapper definitely don't bite as much when the line is thick.

[@twowander2470]

Good info man. As a new guy learning to fish this is something i hear a lot. That fish see the line. I always thought "they can see the line but not the hook or the fact theyre chasing a metal spoon?".

[@striper8311]

Awesome video, I’m a very advanced saltwater fisherman, and just recently moved into a community with some large lakes in it, so I’m now trying the freshwater thing, the lakes have some variety of species, it has tons of bass, clown knife fish, and also snook, so I was trying to keep the leader light, but if I hook a decent snook there gill plate will cut you off, so I was wondering if it was ok to throw 20 to 25lb leader, just didn’t know if bass would shy away, thanks for the great explanation on line types for the sweet water.

[@Gstar5150]

It may not matter as much in stained water, but if your fishing a clear lake you definitely want a lighter clear fluorocarbon line. There's studies that say red and chartreuse lines are almost as invisible if not the same as clear fluoro in deeper stained water. Especially chartreuse because when that fish looks up at that illuminated green water the chartreuse line will blend in almost completely. One of the few scenarios where something is less visible with more light present, there's a lot of science that goes into choosing lb test and line color. But for when the sun goes down in stained water that Red Cajun line is really good.

[@northwestredneckfishing9299]

Love this! I just put 20lb high viz yellow on my spinning rod, I never lose a fish and can see even a small nibble

[@hermanjlyons]

Damn BLat. We’re so worried about fishing line that we don’t even think about that big ass hook in the worm. Mind blown. Thanks brother

[@jackene415]

Best discussion of line i have ever heard. Thanks blat!

[@jimmysharpe8067]

Great information B’lat. What do you like to use when throwing a floating worm/Wacky worm? I see a lot of pro’s using a pink floral carbon ? I think? But It’s not something I see in many tackle shops.

[@fpvaddictdad2730]

Thanks for all the great content. Down to earth and practical.

[@bkbaitsal4389]

I agree with the title. I fish bass and ended up at a trout lake with family and I caught the most trout using 20 lb braid.. And if trout can spot a little fly in the water I know they're seeing my line but it didn't matter to them obviously.

[@williamwheaton8614]

I 100% agree with you B-Lat! If you don’t think they don’t see the hook the line the weight then they are are terribly misunderstood. Line size should only be considered for bait presentation purposes! I use 15-17lb fluorocarbon on most of my setups, I adjust depending what I’m fishing around for abrasive purposes! My crank bait setups both deep, shallow, and squarebills, are all 12lb fluorocarbon because it makes it easier to cast distance wise, and it allows the crankbaits to achieve the best diving depth on longer cast. I use braid to Fluoro leader on my spinning setup. But line size visibility is not a thing. Great video again B! Keep me coming!

[@10thCavalry]

Hey, thanks for clearing that up for me. I was always told the fish could see my line.

[@Kyle_Lowrey]

Line size is important in clear water, especially cold clear water. Dropping your line size and hook gives your bait more action and presents the bait more naturally. It makes the biggest difference on how many fish and big fish you catch. Just like longer casts help. B-Lad what kind of blade is on your chatter bait? Very interesting..

[@bjccounter5810]

Totally agree. I fish up here in the sturgeon bay area and trust me. Line diameter matters!

[@Skills_909]

Yup! I always use mono

[@carneythegamer]

i used 10 pound flurocarbon line for the first time, first cast 5 second later i caught a big pike... and he broke my line and ran away... i just switched to 25 pound flurocarbon. is that fine??

[@chadphillips4941]

Ok.? So when do I use s leader and when do I not

[@TennTitans]

Size of line affects action. Actions dictates bites. It also dictates where it runs in the water column. Smaller line in cranks will let the crank run deeper. It will make it more efficient to keep your spinners or chatters in the water depth that you wants

[@terryparker5382]

Spot on Brian same with getting crazy with the tag end trimming lol if they didn't see the hook or the 25 foot of line then tag end length is not a problem make it so it doesn't slip and compromise the knot. .

[@1965JB]

Love this video. If a bass is willing to eat a 3 inch chartreuse crank bait, line diameter isn’t gonna change its mind.

[@nazmccoy]

Im learning that when i use 15lb flouro i get good topwater walking motion and definitely further casts, but i also get more lashes. Ive only used 30 lb braid so far. My flipping has been trash from the bank.

[@upstatenybassmaster4211]

Dont throw topwater on flouro

[@jimk4267]

ditto to upstate...fluoro sinks and impedes the 'walking' motion. On walking topwaters I have always used 20lb. Big Game because it is cheap and abrasion resistant. I'm fishing wood for smallies and they love to burrow and I have to dig them out. Good luck and you'll never stop learning

[@nazmccoy]

Touchè.

[@BrianGayAnglingImages]

In Europe in international team events a lot of anglers could not believe that the English team particularly anglers like Will Raison and Steve Gardener fished with line diameters of 0.18 and 0.20 mm when most other teams were using 0.10 and 0.12 mm. They were fishing for big barbel, carp and bream in flowing water so Will & Steve would often say to me that they would rather not hook a fish than hook it and lose it because the line was too thin! They had the confidence to know that fish will bite when using thicker line and it will give you the best chance of landing that fish.

[@n0myst3ry]

That's exactly what I've been thinking! We're worried about fish seeing the line when there are big metal hooks coming off the bait lol

[@doyleshaw3063]

Brian how do you keep up with the line size and age of line on each rod. I know im getting old and forgetful but for the life of me i cant tell the diff between 12 and 14 lb. I usually dont restring until i break off at the reel on a cast which is usually 10 dollars too late.

[@escrtn84]

Thanks B.Lat .. I'm relatively new to bass fishing, and this cleared up a lot of confusion I've been having. Another great video.

[@danielnataliiii9661]

Good stuff as always! Tight lines!

[@cm6853]

What about a fluro leader for the spinner bait

[@bluegrassbassing3790]

I already agree with the title and can’t wait to see all the comments

[@thomasthompson5702]

@@mogunz9643 bluegrassbassin his name sounds way cooler than yours 🪱🎣

[@msquared9605]

@@mogunz9643 no one likes self liking comments either

[@msquared9605]

@@mogunz9643 you liked your comment to prove to me you don’t like your comments. Makes sense

[@dankjankings7339]

I have compared same bait with different sizes of same line and trout fishing for me it makes a huge difference but bass and trout are 2 different fish.

[@Paco.661]

Thanks!! I need to go buy some new line.

[@cg-keuka]

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[@AlinJapan]

When I fish for trout, then fish seeing the line matters more, but even then, the same points you made apply--what line you're using for what lure and for what purpose are key. Very well said!

[@dcslapout5697]

Well put .makes sense

[@georgebramblett6078]

THANK YOU for this video was trying to figure out what line to use on a spinning rod for a floating worm

[@BrianLatimerFishing]

8-10-12

[@dathangarfield379]

B-lat if you only had 3 rods on your boat one being a Heavy rod, one medium and a finesse set up, what line types and weights would you choose?

[@jayhenderson2312]

Do you use fluoro or mono leaders on your braid or just straight bread?

[@Justin-tp3lr]

For me it depends on what I'm throwing and the technique. If it's a spinning reel it's always braid to mono or fluorocarbon. On a side note where can I buy those bulk spools of line?

[@calvinweaver7767]

Thanks i went clear to dirty for one or the other never thought about that angle

[@The_Bass_Stunters]

I’ve always made my line size decisions based off depth and action or what bait I’m using.

[@landonbragg4336]

Bass can’t even tell the difference between yellow and white, we overthink this fishing thing way to much lol

[@blowupbassin152]

Makes sense and I’m actually very intrigued by this way of thought on line size

[@tjbarss7638]

Do you ever try using braid to leader?

[@riverratfishing]

Great class. Lots of good information.

[@seanb1321]

Thank you!

[@matthew52407]

Thanks again for another one. Always learning something new. Can’t wait for more.

[@chriswachowiak7098]

When are you restocking your site?

[@jimmcculloch5825]

A couple of videos ago, you said one method to get longer casts was to use smaller line. Here you said you normally use 30# braid on casting reels. How small would you go to get more distance? I love to hear your thoughts because they are so sensible.

[@BrianLatimerFishing]

No smaller than 30 on braid for casting for me

[@jimmcculloch5825]

@@BrianLatimerFishing Thanks for your reply and for all of your good advice.

[@chrishampton8842]

Great video, have to admit I’ve always thought of it like you do. What makes the bait work best

[@rexista1]

Ok I was wondering if it's ok to throw 3/8 oz spinnerbaits and chatterbaits on 12lb mono

[@chrismccarta202]

I have just started using fluorocarbon this year

[@jimk4267]

keep in mind rod action when going between fluoro and mono. In the old days when all we had was mono. We used very stiff rods so we could take up the stretch. SOME fluoros have very little stretch and you need a rod with a softer tip. If you are failing to hook them. As in they are there for a moment then gone. You need to go one direction because you are not burying the hook. If you are losing them near the boat more than likely the opposite...make sense? Huge point of contention a lot of the new fluoros ( the limp ones) stretch worse than mono. I don't consider these real fluoro's. Trial and error

[@johnemrey9877]

+2 on flouro. 15 minimum since it's a moving bait and takes some power to get that hook set. Otherwise hes gonna come spit it back at you

[@tblindsey]

B-Lat fishing line class, I loved it!!!!!

[@1234faded]

Blat cranking out the videos this week.

[@skylerbroussard4505]

I really like copolymer for spinnerbaits and crankbaits

[@DJSherwoodAesthetics]

This editing is so clean good sir! the content is coming through great B Lat

[@elizabethsumpter9129]

Thank you for this subject

[@fishmovecommunicate8196]

I’m not a good enough fisherman to disagree with you… but I have heard Roland Martin say that sometimes the fish do care.

[@johnbracewell3700]

my buddy and I both fish wacky rigs ALOT i always use 8 or 12lb fluro, he use to use a 15lb braid. It stood out like a sore thumb in our clear lakes. I ALWAYS caught way more. he finally switched to 10lb fluro now he tears em up too. and if you cast far past a fish and you're cranking your lure back past that fish, that bass is gonna see your line way before it sees your lure, and i believe that can turn them off before they ever see your lure.

[@cecilmoreno9736]

Thank u for that class brother. Fish on.

[@jesseboyden3119]

Once a 7lbr ate my bandito bug on straight 30lb braid off her bed in super clear water I realized they don't give af

[@morganyoder4277]

I feel like the line size doesn't matter when they look at the bait, however the size of the line represents a bigger or smaller presence to their lateral line, which seems to spook them sometimes. The smaller lines piss me off more than catch fish. I stick to a 15 pound leader for spinning, but I'm thinking about going to 12 in tatsu.

[@Michaelpruis]

Go give daiwa samurai a look... little cheaper and as a seagar user it has been great this year for me!

[@morganyoder4277]

@@Michaelpruis I use seaguar fluoro and maxcuatro braid. My buddy uses samurai and it sucks, maybe i'll have to see for myself though.

[@Michaelpruis]

@@morganyoder4277 I use anywhere from 6-10lb on my spinning rigs... always to braid, and exclusively this year. I've yet to have any break offs or issues, even though a number of 5+lb smallmouth have tried their best

[@morganyoder4277]

@@Michaelpruis hmm, I fish a lot of heavy cover with weightless senkos and have really bad luck with line less than 10 lb. I'll try 12, but 15 has been good.

[@Michaelpruis]

@@morganyoder4277 I still use sunline on all my casting gear when it comes to fluoro haha

[@DV87777]

Lol and I was just at BP trying to decide what to respool my reels with. I've used invisiline braid 20 lb and 12lb fluro...but the action and which rod and bait is truly interesting. Always appreciate it bro.

[@andylengerich3859]

Thank you very much for this video!

[@KRDP]

i always carry and use 12 pound monofilament and most the time 99% of the time monofilament gets the task done. i have never once had a problem with monofilament in my opinion monofilament is most forgiving and has the tendency to want to cooperate unlike spiderwire thats unforgiving and causes birds nest and tangles 99% of your time monofilament wont do that. i have a rod and monofilane 12 pound line that looks like christmas.

[@frederickshebester2368]

Match line for optimum bait performance. Bait presentation key.

[@johnburgess6572]

I am for simplifying fishing , and this helps

[@J-Rod73]

Damm, never thought about it this way. Thank you for sharing the knowledge bro. 👍

[@academicmailbox7798]

I developed a fishing fly for sea-run brown trout. Here in the European river systems. Back between 2010 to 2016 (it actually took that length of time, in stages to come up with a very new design).

[@academicmailbox7798]

What happened, as I started to change from lighter gauge wire hooks. To dressing flies on heavier gauge wire. And what that did. Using a very static method. Was it enabled the fly to slow down a bit. In the slower drifts (moving rivers, but slower parts of moving rivers). That added piece of delay. Proved to be a substantial trigger. To sea-run brown trout takes.

[@academicmailbox7798]

The eventual final version of the design. Incorporated an actual tungsten bead. Of various sizes. Between a shank in front. And a bare hook to the back (a lot of flies went for a front weighted design, like the 'engine' block in vehicles is on front often). And this was a mid-chassis weighted design. Where you put the engine block directly behind the driving seat. So to speak. So the fly was less inclined to 'drive' with it's nose down (like in saltwater their use the Lefty Kreh loop knots to provide movement at the hook to leader connection). So that the fly in saltwater nose dives down and gains depth more quickly. I was looking for the precise opposite to that effect. In my freshwater rivers. Hunting for sea-run brown's. And the mid-chassis weighted fly. Turned out to be the secret (the earlier prototypes, using the heavy wire hook, hinted at a solution). It took six years though, before I converged on the real deal.

[@academicmailbox7798]

To this day. I don't fully know. Why it works (I've an idea, because I got the tungsten bead components from Euro nymphing angles). And previously, those components had never been used by salmon or sea-trout fly anglers. And the tungsten basically converts the fly. Into somewhat like a 'jig' system. That you use in conventional angling (I think some call them 'football' head flies, which is an accurate description of what those baits look like). Here is the funny part.

[@academicmailbox7798]

In fact, I'd call it a system. That is very good for 'cleaning' up an area (you may have caught one or two). And they, we presume are the easier ones. And there might be additional good fish there. Except, they are the harder ones. All of these fish. That I caught on this system. Were 'hard' fish to catch (fish that others had left behind basically). I had verified success with the fly. And I gave it the 'big sell'. This was the next new thing. I told my friends.

[@academicmailbox7798]

So it was time to venture 'down' river. To the bigger channels. Where you really have to prove yourself. If you want to believe. You are something. This was the first time actually. I'd ever come up with a fly design. Which was different. And which was something I devised myself. Except, I'd never tested it on the larger water though. That still had not prevented me. From giving it the big sell (there is the 'over' confidence and inexperience speaking right there). So what happened?

[@KriticullCTRL]

Preach it, B-LAT! You're spot on, in my opinion

[@mittiejackson8421]

Just fish forget

[@twiggsherman3641]

Fish aren't that smart. They will however become habitualized. I have an aquarium, as soon as I tap the lid, the fish know that signals feeding time. So if a fish gets nailed on a senko a few times, they're going to associate the senko with getting nailed. Same with line, if they see line then get nailed, I can see how they'd associate that with getting nailed. I think there is something to using presentations fish have never been caught on before, and using line they can't see.

[@zenitsuagatsumagodofthunde8831]

This was my first real year of fishing seriously ish 😂 this was very helpful!! Great video !!

[@12ernie]

Great video as usual!

[@deckmonkey1459]

Are you trying to convince me that the other day when my boat was floating next to the bank after I took a swim and I saw a smallmouth swimming less than 2 feet away in 3 feet of water with 6 foot+ visibility, when I got up, grabbed my pike rod, stood on the back deck, cast over his head and brought it back to him that he didn't see the 18 inch steel leader the hook was on before he took it? Unfortunately he only got the tail so I had to grab my other rod with just a snap swivel to cast out to get him to hit again while my boat was slowly floating off the bank.

[@nithakonethongvong1160]

When you were swimming my in 3 foot of water and the smallmouth was 2 feet away, are you sure it was 6 foot + visibility? Was your leader exactly 18 inches?? What size snap swivel were you using???? Are you telling me he didn’t see that snap swivel too?

[@deckmonkey1459]

@@nithakonethongvong1160 When you can see the bottom clearly in 7 feet of water it's probably 6 foot +. I only buy what the package say are 18 inch steel leaders but I've never measured to make sure it's exact. That was a size 12 snap. I use 10s usually but I had some black 12s to use up. And waist deep is 3 feet for me, maybe not for you, plus my pike rod is 20 lb mono and my crank rod is 8 lb mono both tied with a single fishermans knot if you were wondering.

[@Legoshi_Vue]

Sunline FC sniper 20lb test 😎

[@willanderson1983]

Fishing line companies "teach" us that line size matters to the fish.

[@WillySnakes]

Yeah thats always been my thought...wait your saying my line scares the fish but not the giant hooks hanging off of it everywhere? Ok bud.

[@FishingWithDamon]

Bass fishing is the best my favourite is striped bass but bass in general are just a crazy fish too catch the way they strike is super exciting I do my own KZbin as well except I am only 13 my goal is too engage our next generation into fishing 🎣 but your videos are better then mine your editing is just next level awesome

[@troytucker2018]

Trilene big game 30lb ??

[@outofbody6797]

Im happy for this guy for keeping it fuckin real bro, line size is irrelevant, I caught my best bass (4.2 lbs) on 8 lb test in heavy cover. It’s a marketing ploy.

[@chrisoutdoors6616]

You're probably one of the most relatable Fishman out there

[@ship4427]

If they'll eat a spinner bait or an a rig they don't give a shit about line

[@JeffSmith-mh1sv]

I've used different types of line, bass don't care.

[@jamainejiggy240]

Perfect timing from my favorite pro ✊🏾✊🏾✊🏾

[@grahambumpas3213]

Love the video 💪🏼