bass drum double strokes

Axis and Pearl pedals in this video showing bass drum double strokes. I show my settings and my technique.
This is also called heel toe and is great for playing fast metal or death metal.
Check out my other videos for drum tutorials and how to videos on things like rudiments, fills, solos and other lessons.
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[@thesleepdog1]

Seen a dozen videos on fast double bass.This is the bees knees! The daddy! Easily the fastest and most effective technique I've seen. Thank you sir. Clear. Informative. everything you need to be a flash foot man! That's me for the next month!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Thanks buddy. Happy you enjoyed it.

[@drummonkeystuffuk1875]

@@beyondbetrayal Hmm i took your advice and loosened the spring a bit can play 20bpm faster now - interesting..just need to clean up the miss hits now.

[@beyondbetrayal]

@@drummonkeystuffuk1875 very cool!!! It's all about the settings, once they are dialed in, it's funny how easy heel toe is really. i find the tight head with a stuffed drum really makes it trigger accurate though.

[@ihatedrugs2246]

Heel toe yeah

[@BadRonald1]

I go for the same setting. It took me a long time but 2 years ago I'd come up with the same setting as yours. I had to take apart my DW9000 pedal just to get it to go super low like you were talking about. It feels much better like that and has increased my speed.

[@beyondbetrayal]

right on man. I find that is the best for doubles, but it makes it tougher when doing single pedal stuff as i like higher spring tension for that... A constant battle haha

[@Mrcastleskeep]

Great tutorial dude! I've hit a wall on my speed. For my band, I don't need the constant, fast DB but I do need short bursts in complex patterns. Some placements of fast rolls come very easily to me but certain roll timings are very hard to get at the 1/32nd note ratio I want. I plan on practicing this method to see if I can employ it in complex patterns without completely wearing myself out. Thanks man. You're a lifesaver!

[@beyondbetrayal]

I will often just do it on +he right foot and singles on the left.. so it's almost a gallop, or a 1 e and 2 e + 3 e + if you get that. But really fast :) or you can do doubles on the left and singles on the right for 1 +a 2 +a 3 +a .. I mostly do this and runs of 16ths but you could put them in elsewhere. Good luck.

[@PowuhToSeven]

How did it work out?

[@Daze_Hudson]

Why am i here, I'm a guitarist

[@BadRonald1]

I'm a Drummer that goes to guitarist websites. I play Guitar too but mostly Drums.Your a well rounded Musician, nothing wrong with that.

[@commiesarehorrible7622]

David Hudson your secret is safe here.

[@Shredder-KJ]

I'm a guitarist . Too lol haha . But I love drums and bass . And other stuff I watch lessons constantly on all instruments

[@englandcity6829]

me too but I love drums, bass and keyboards. You can call me a perfectionist but trust me, it's nice to hear, you can sum up all you can do and making music

[@codymitts1319]

We all secretly wish we were as talented as drummers.

[@sebbosaurus]

Great video very informative, interesting to see the different ways of how heel-toe can be done obviously depending on the individuals preference, physiology, equipment etc.Very very similar pedal setup, low foot board beater still far enough for some power.

[@joshsomers4083]

bro that helped alot!

[@matenorth]

So you are driving with the hip flexors without enforcing the second tap with the ankle?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Second tap uses ankle.. First is mostly flexors

[@jeffbridges6110]

It's crazy how easy you make this look. I'm an old school drummer. Always played heel up for double kick. I'm trying to learn heel toe. I have a dDrum direct drive double pedal. The heel blocks are removed. They are long boards. Is it possible to do this on those pedals you think? I'm enjoying and studying your heel toe vids.

[@beyondbetrayal]

I'd think so. The direct drive makes it stick to your feet. it took a while of adjusting spring tension, beater distance, beater height, foot board height, head tension to find the sweet spot.

[@Andyw1228]

Is this technique only for triggered drums ? I don't think that you can play loud enough without triggering ?

[@beyondbetrayal]

I have a video without triggers on my channel. It works, but it does sound much more even with triggers.

[@Osckarbravodrummer]

Great video!!. Could you tell us the setting of the drum module and which do you use?. Thank you so much! \m/

[@beyondbetrayal]

Thanks. I have several videos on setting you trigger modules and even a few showing my own settings on my channel. I change them often so I don't know off the top of my head. Watch the one talking about the HOW to do your own because my settings won't work on your drums

[@matmoorhead6212]

I have been an iron cobra person for a long time, is this possible without the direct drive petals? I have a double chain with the rubber betters from tama

[@JoseMorales-jn5qw]

+beyondbetrayal I wanted to ask... after a year.. did you settle for the Axis or the Pearl?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Hey man. I have 2 sets of Axis now. the Al-2's and the Laser A21's.. The build quality of the Axis can not be beat.

[@JoseMorales-jn5qw]

Thanks for the response...Ive been looking into the Axis pedals and the trick Dominators..... Do you like those Laser A21's? I use these 15 year old Iron Cobras but i need to get something else. ( i joined a slipknot tribute so i need to get faster) . I feel like them pedals are kind of sluggish after trying some speedcobras the other day. I am also working on this heel toe technique after doing it the "regular" way for over 25 years.

[@beyondbetrayal]

I love the a21's.. they hit fast like the al2's but with more power. I went from cobras myself. Night and day. they will make you faster, but there is some learning curve ... sluggish will not be an issue.

[@JoseMorales-jn5qw]

thanks man... its so hard to decide which pedals to get nowadays with so many out there and with stores not carrying them all. So I am at the mercy of what I read online instead of being able to trying them out myself. I have been leaning heavily on the trick pedals but I have been looking at those A21's as well.. From zero day , how long do you think it takes to master the heel toe working on it 1 or 2 hours a day

[@beyondbetrayal]

2 hours a day? You'll have it down good in a month. "Master" is a subjective term. I have done it for a few years, but I could do it at gigs within a few months and wasn't even doing an hour a day.... as i said before. its more gettin the settings right than "learning it" My guitar player can sit at my kit and pull off decent heel toe... if its not working your settings are what needs to be tweaked.

[@dulsrules]

Best tutorial on youtube.

[@beyondbetrayal]

+dulsrules thanks a bunch :)

[@samuelsantiago5234]

I have seen many videos of heel toe and after a year later I found this video you are my hero. Never did I think I would find this video thank you so much!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Samuel Santiago thanks for the kind words. I have a few on my channel. subscribe to me because I'm going to make more vids asap

[@samuelsantiago5234]

beyondbetrayal also a question does this work also on dw pedal (chain pedals)?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Samuel Santiago it is much easier with direct drive. it should work with chins if you set them up right though

[@beyondbetrayal]

I have never tried it. It will probibly work just maybe not as fast. It's a combination of the direct drive, settings, and longboards. But essentially a pedal is a pedal. You just need to angle your foot a bit more on a short board also.. I need someone to send me some pedals to try it on haha.

[@charlesmarion2032]

Hey wait a minute! I have those same shorts, how come I can't play that fast? Lol

[@beyondbetrayal]

HAHA. Hitting the gym and about 45 minutes on the pad every day for the last 2 months has made me MUCH faster and tighter. It's all about staying relaxed to play fast. I'll be making a few more videos soon on my practice. Anyone can do it, It just takes time practicing for longer periods at about 60-70% of your max speed. Practicing my hands around 190 has made them faster around 240 for longer periods.

[@dennisdorsey5749]

Sorry, I commented about triggers before the middle of the video. You do you triggers.

[@fireyourrocketts]

I guess I need to expend more time with mines because I have not been able to do this no matter how many times I try; then come here and see it; oh it is sooo easy! got it...tried it...failed miserably🤣

[@furcoat9458]

Hey man. Your video was great. I've seen many videos on double strokes but none showed the pearl pedals (which I just got a few days ago) and for some reason, heel toe just never clicked for me. Then I saw your video and I got it almost instantly. One thing I have to say though, which is 100% personal preference of course, is I actually have the footboard decently high on my pedals. I learned to do it like that because surprisingly I can get very fast with it and I don't have a kick trigger st the moment so it has great power. Again, thanks so much for your vid man. I love your videos. They always explain everything so well!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Awesome man. Comments like this is why I post videos.. I don't get paid or free gear or anything lol. Ya you can get more power with higher pedals or the beaters further back.. Once you have triggers i like the pedals lower for speed but its personal preference for sure!

[@furcoat9458]

beyondbetrayal Hell yea man keep up the great work 🤘 stoked for your videos to com 😁

[@furcoat9458]

beyondbetrayal And it's even more impressive that you don't get any of that stuff for free. Fellow drummers gotta help each other out haha 👍

[@beyondbetrayal]

I'm not saying that I WOULDN"T take free gear haha. Although there is a few companies that I will remain loyal too for life. Sometimes you have to pay for quality and that is just how it is.

[@ハンマーリリー]

ヤバい！I want to be able to do it quickly！！

[@ieattrollsforbreakfast2973]

Your video has helped me immensely, I can't thank you enough dude, you legend!!!

[@beyondbetrayal]

NO, Thank you for watching and commenting :). That is the reason I do this. Make sure to subscribe and I will make more soon.

[@MarioLuniAlva]

Thanx for this really good Video. Perfect explained, Dude ❗❗❗🙂

[@beyondbetrayal]

Glad it helped!

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

Best example I've seen of this yet. I'll be using this technique somewhere in church by the end of the summer 😂 Seriously.

[@beyondbetrayal]

Awesome. !!!

[@keokiheller4351]

Amazeballs here wowzers!🤩

[@inspektorgadget1129]

I have demon drives but I really struggle to have it that clean and straight as you

[@beyondbetrayal]

I love my demons

[@666TheMonk]

brilliant video.best one on the net.thank you.

[@beyondbetrayal]

Man. Thanks a bunch. I'm going to try a bunch more soon when my camera comes back from being repaired so make sure to sub

[@Kaeleb_Padua]

Tried with Tama Iron Cobra, can’t find the feels. Good video by the way!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Thanks!

[@blackwinterday89]

what settings do you use on your Module Trigger?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Dragos Ionel check my other videos buddy. I have a few showing them

[@willharvey3605]

Axis sounded cleaner

[@AFacemarkedbyFea]

It's basically a gravity blast

[@ShadowsFrost]

I love the fact that you also went into how the settings on the pedal can make a difference. Even kick drum skin tension. This is by far crucial information that is not mentioned by many other drummers explain the technique. Though everyone's settings will differ to their own, it is good that it should be utilized. It's something I have stuggled with to get greater speed, but I can only do 240 at single strokes now. I will look into pedal tunage so to speak.

[@beyondbetrayal]

The settings make all the difference in the world. I find if my settings are dialed in right I can play much faster and tighter. I am starting to tighten my springs a bit more as it makes me more consistent but I have to work harder for the speed. Don't neglect the single strokes if you do this. It's much to easy to just play doubles and then after a year your singles suffer.

[@steveflorence6049]

make it look so easy but I tried it bad ass bro thank you now to find some good effect fuor triggers

[@beyondbetrayal]

Good luck man. the settings of your pedals make the difference.

[@octtobraaofficial5854]

Great video!! I have 2 questions First question do I have to bring my heal all the way down to the floor kinda hard? Second question will this technique will work having boots on?

[@beyondbetrayal]

No.. You don't have to touch your heel. I just explain it that way for people learning it helps to get the motion down.. Once you have it you do not have to exaggerate the movement. I have seen many do it in shoes.. I just personally find it easier without.

[@dylanlp7778]

Very useful video :) thx

[@diamondkyle812]

Im trying. Thank you so much

[@beyondbetrayal]

You got this!

[@ハンマーリリー]

ヤバい！That's awesome. I'm motivated. I `ll stick it！

[@beyondbetrayal]

You can do it!

[@ハンマーリリー]

@@beyondbetrayal Thank you!

[@pudritiblast]

the sensitivity of the roland tm2 does not handle the sensitivity of the trigger as such... it only manages the volume and the intensity of the blow.Have yamaha dt50k roland tm2 and I can't get my trigger to detect double hits well.. I tried it with a lot of settings but I still can't find anything that works for me, any solution?

[@southpaw304]

beyondbetrayal. Thank you so much. I've watched your videos before, along with a thousand others, but couldn't make the connection. Finally I have it now. You put a link on the drummer world forum the other day, and I clicked it and watched it again. The next time I sat down on my kit, I tried it, and I can get the doubles with my heel off of the pedal. Recently I've playing up high on the foot board, actually using my heel for the first hit. That worked but not as I'd like it too. I got a good trigger today (finally) and I think I'm gonna get the heel toe fast metal drumming going. I can only do it for a short run, but I can tell this is gonna work. I tried adjusting my pedal like you suggested, but I didn't like it. As I learn the technique, your settings suggestions might be helpful. This just my second time working on this technique like you demonstrated it. Thanks again.

[@beyondbetrayal]

you just made my day man. if you have any questions let me know. glad I could help. once you get it it's easy

[@modifidious7171]

All these tutorials use fucking Axis lmao. No wonder you can do crazy rolls.

[@singaporeghostclub]

Swivel technique is so difficult. I’ll try this method from now on

[@WolfBroCro]

thanks for the video, im having difficulties with my DW4000 pedals where the springs are maxed out but i cant get it to bounce fast enough to make it to the second hit, whole pedal seems really rather stiff BUT with lower tension on springs i lose all the power i need and it only becomes slugish and slow. i realized i need to invest in better pedals to get it to work like it does to you, also chain and direct drive are whole world apart on the feel, some things you can do much easier on the direct drive rather than on the chain drive.

[@fan9320]

厉害👍

[@marcusbarnes5929]

What double kick pedal are you currently using?

[@Bultish]

Marvelous man! Thanks and merry christmas

[@christusflatus4741]

🤟🤟🤟👹 4:13

[@andrewwheeler-berliner9958]

Best video I've seen on this topic. THANKS!

[@mitchimusprime4613]

Thank fuck for u dude, gotta get this working after seeing this video

[@FSHChris]

I just started this technique and thanks so much for making this video it really helped me out a lot

[@beyondbetrayal]

Glad it helped!

[@clermontjuniorlavoie1329]

Fuckin great video yeah i got it ! Heheheh thank men !!!!!

[@Mari000]

I gave up on this technique. Couldn’t get it.

[@influenzaseb]

i can´t remember when i ever have commented on a video but i just wanted to do it this time to say thank you for your videos. especially this one was very helpful. thank you for doing these.

[@beyondbetrayal]

Right on man. Thanks for the comment. I'll try and make more vids soon. I got a new camera and a some new gear to play with too.

[@matenorth]

Great video!!I understand what you say about the settings but for single strokes,what settings would be better? flat pedal,loose springs,beaters close to head vs tight springs,beater far back I cannot decide.Im a single stroke player but i want to learn this to.Actually i do a lot of doubles only with the right foot with beaters back and full tension.What should i do to get the best of both worlds?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Find something middle ground. work towards the settings while still keeping your singles feeling good. when I do slide doubles I like my springs a bit tighter.. I have slowly been increasing the spring tension which causes me to have to press a bit harder but allows the head to be more loose. plus my singles are working better. It's all about finding a balance.

[@RevolutionInsignia]

And my dumbass has been doing 16th notes for an ass amount of time.

[@alexwolf8019]

Came here from VDrums, Thank you for this

[@beyondbetrayal]

No problem. thanks for watching

[@JourneyDrummer1972]

Very nice job Deconstructing what we should be looking at for better control, instead of pretending we have a clue?!” Tips are not Taboo. How many of us can say we graduated from an accredited professional School of drumming like P.I.T.? Of those, How many are drumming Under an independent LLC? Thought so. It would be the only reason “You Hold Back Sustaining The Power of 🅞🅤🅡 🅒🅡🅐🅕🅣!“ We’re not a PGA Professional giving hourly golf lessons to Chuck Shumers wife, milking 20 lessons that consist of 2 0- ten minute chunks of technique, 10 solid minutes talking or just listening to repetition for sure! Repeating same story every day then train 10 mins!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Lol its all just muscle memory and repetition. I explain it how I'd prefer some one to do the same for me. Clear, honest, to the point, and consise.

[@ZachariasdrumZ]

I set my pedal up this way as soon as I got home today, and it was life changing. Thanks so much!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Awesome to hear it!

[@SurajSunar33]

You're doing heel heel toe toe or heel toe heel toe??

[@DrumSimme1989]

Hey man! Thx for this vid. I tried the pedal settings on my Axis pedals and noticed a big difference doing the heel toe. Also these settings helped me to practice the swivel technique!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Awesome man. Happy to hear!! I'll try and make some more with my A21's soon.

[@igortomaz4225]

Hi, great (old video) man! I have a question, hopefully you'll answer it. Would you say that this technique works as flawlessly with more inexpensive pedals like Eliminators or even Demonators for example? Cheers from Brazil! 🤘

[@beyondbetrayal]

I find the long boards, or direct drive make it much easier than chains

[@Michael-White]

So which pedal do you prefer??

[@Michael-White]

So which pedal do you prefer?

[@LosViejos]

Im trying this ASAP!!! Thanks mate

[@evandercoronel]

Excelente video, me ayudó mucho, solo una pregunta, cuál es el modelo del pedal que usas en este video?? Gracias!!!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Axis - AL2 and Pearl Demond Drives. Thanks

[@megyalilaballad]

You sound like Tom Hanks.

[@PabloEzequielLeone]

You master how to hit a bass drum, not actually playing the bass drum. I wouldn't focus on this technique I would rather put more effort on a technique that can be playable with and without triggers and also one that I'm more in control. It would be pretty difficult to do some complex patterns using this technique and impossible to make them sound even I rekon.

[@beyondbetrayal]

I play in a few bands. Some dont use triggers and I play larger looser kick drums. I never said to ONLY learn this technique, and I don't recomened even trying it until you are already a decent drummer.

[@richardwilliams1310]

Might want to look at some of the pedal mods made by Dennis at ACD Unlimited that may help you get the action you want on your Axis & Pearl pedals. Cheers from Australia \m/

[@beyondbetrayal]

I have an ACD shaft :).

[@Killenmachine05]

Hey man, just had to come back here because I watched this last night and went and tried it tonight and it finally clicked for me, I still have alot of work to do getting power, but I've got it going now for the most part, I wanna make sure my hits are all clear and clean before I bring triggers into the mix.

[@beyondbetrayal]

Awesome man. Keep at it and you'll have it in no time

[@brendan5222]

Impressive, with the added resistance from the slave pedal

[@beyondbetrayal]

Thanks!!

[@johnl7979]

im looking to do kick triggering. what riggers are you using and what module are you using? thank you. awesome video

[@beyondbetrayal]

I have a bunch of videos on here I suggest you take a look at about triggers and setting them up and modules.. I use a Roland trigger and a TM-2

[@NarMattaru]

Dude, your explanation is so cool. But, I have one doubt: What about the shortboard pedals?

[@beyondbetrayal]

I haven't tried on short's, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. It really comes down to the settings. I use the head for rebound rather than the springs if I want to go really fast. The VDL forward is a big help on the axis pedals though.

[@realj3rkii865]

Bet you can barely hear it without the drum triggers though. So you won’t actually sound like that without the triggers.

[@beyondbetrayal]

I have videos showing this without triggers. it's pretty loud,, I am still hitting the drum hard ... of course it doesn't sound like a clicky sample without triggers.

[@Erwin76]

This is pure straight mother fukin lesson the way is ment to be!!!!...

[@beyondbetrayal]

Haha right on buddy. Make sure to sub. I'll try and make some more soon

[@adamstaysick]

i use dw 9000 extended footboard and as with most pedals you have a heel crash pad. it hurts to drive your heel into it.so for anyone hurting out there, it should be a light touch. almost floating once you've got it properly

[@beyondbetrayal]

adamstaysick your correct. if you watch when I get going my heel doesn't touch at all. I was just explaining it that way for people to get the technique down to start

[@moochee22]

I have the Demon Drive and have always had a bitch of a time getting it set right. This video helps a lot. The only problem is I like my bass drum batter to be really loose so I can get a deep, thunderous bass.

[@beyondbetrayal]

moochee22 tighter springs help with the head like that or compromise at medium on both. That is why most trigger for heel toe

[@monkeyzdrummer760]

i'm using pearl p902.. can i apply this setting to the paddle??

[@beyondbetrayal]

It works a lot easier on direct drive but it's worth a try.

[@daniverraleeortega9164]

Axis better very fast

[@StalwartSpartan298]

You need to go into Infant Annihilators page and look at some of their drum videos. Then go into the comments and tell all the idiots saying it's fake to look at your videos

[@beyondbetrayal]

hahaha

[@Fredou714]

i cant do this with loose springs, i dont know why. my springs are almost maxed out. would it help to lossen the springs progressively untill i can do it with looser springs or if i feel alright with tensions is it not a bad thing? even without triggers my hits are pretty heavy and constant

[@beyondbetrayal]

If it's working why change it? I just posted this video to show what I do. I wouldn't change a thing. There is 1000 ways to achieve anything in drumming. The end result is the sound your going for. Not the the technique you use to get there.

[@jonathananthonyhumphries2486]

Does head tension matter? I'm trying this on a little v drums bass pad, the beater isn't even able to be burried into pad so I doubt there is a lot of return from mesh head. Also I don't have direct drive idk it is hard

[@beyondbetrayal]

Head tension makes a big difference. I could do it on a roland td20 mesh pad but it's harder on something like the pd9 pad for the kick

[@muuriciodegollada3870]

I think with the axis it was more precise. Just saying. Both looked good. But I'm going with axis

[@beyondbetrayal]

This is a pretty old video but you can't go wrong with either one.

[@CoomerGremlinDGGfan]

@@beyondbetrayal now that you've had a lot of time with both which do you prefer?

[@beyondbetrayal]

@@CoomerGremlinDGGfan They are so different is is hard to compare. I actually added the A21 Lasers to the mix too lol. My AL2's are shot, so I use the lasers an the demons most of the time. The Demons are super consistent and reliable, but the A21's have their own feel that I can really fly on. The best advice is to try them all and see what feels best. I am more consistent on the demons though, and the Axis feel easier to play at crazy speeds if that helps.

[@jgmopar]

Do you use the same setting for the death metal and punk band ? or different for each type of music?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Interesting that you ask. I don't use a bassdrum trigger in the punk band so I tune my kick less tight. I also use a bit higher spring tension because of that. For heel toe in the metal band I play in socks. Because I don't do heel toe and fast double kick in my punk band I tend to play wearing shoes at gigs. (I have used socks sometimes too). Other than that I will often only play a 4 piece kit which has really changed my playing for the better. The biggest change is the kick. I actualy enjoy chain driven pedals when not playing fast for that extra power and find it easier to play loud and tight. For speed it's direct drive all day.

[@Jarhead6820]

So drummers in metal bands do not really move their legs really fast and make every beater get one beat? It is like rolls with your feet?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Static Airsoft I do single strokes too. This is for when you get to around 230+ beats per minute and higher. learn singles first.

[@Benjamin_Lees_]

Bass sounds elece

[@pmvortextures]

Nice video bro? What triggers are you using on this video? Roland or DDRUM? Cheers!

[@AleksRockZilla]

What is your opinion on direct drive vs chain on this technique?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Pretty sure I talk about that in this or one of my other heel toe videos. It's tough on chains but can be done.

[@AleksRockZilla]

There is a cheap Tama Speed Cobra at a store near by ... I hated the Axis (only played fast heel up until I saw this) and loved the Demon Drive. The Speed Cobra was surprisingly good. This double pedal is hardly used at around $140 bucks ... I have seen used Demons for 250 used. I think I’ll buy it

[@mattvdh]

Great video! You explain it perfectly and very clear. Thanks!

[@NickBlommel]

I have a couple questions. 1. What type of beaters are you using; wood? The beaters that came with this pedal seem a bit soft for double hits. 2. How far up do you place the beaters from the pedal? 3. What type of kick trigger do you use? I have a Roland trigger on my bass head but am having trouble avoiding quick rebound hits that are not meant to be played, but while also keeping the threshold settings on my module low enough to where when I DO want to use the double hits that it detects it if the hit is a little weak. P.S. I just got my Demon Drive earlier this week so I am definitely still learning but making good progress. Great video by the way. Thanks!!! Nick

[@beyondbetrayal]

Danmar wood beaters. Any round wood beaters work for me, I like the weight, feel, and rebound. How high depends, I will raise and lower them (1mm at a time) depending on the rest of the settings as it makes a huge difference to the feel, rebound, and speed of the double. It will help get rid of the gallop doing this. It depends on beater distance and spring tension. I mark my beater shaft with marker so I can return it to the same spot. As with all adjustments, do a SMALL adjustment on one thing, wait a bit, and do another or put it back. I have had times where i'll mess with settings all day if it's out of wack, but for the most part just do a bit at a time. Roland kt30 trigger... my drum is STUFFED and the head is super tight. that way i get a good rebound and less double triggers. I have the sensitivity pretty high and the threshold I think I put in another video of my settings. it's a balance act, I adjust my settings so the doubles hit hard enough I don't get double triggers. Technique makes a big difference too. I rest my left foot sometimes and cant have it set it off on stage. Once my lightist hits work, i'll make the threshold just below that limit. If the sensitivity is too high, you have to set the threshold too high sometimes too. retrig cancel i set so my fastest hits are registered, but not any faster to prevent double triggers.

[@NickBlommel]

@@beyondbetrayal awesome thanks for the info!

[@ZacStaylon]

wow. that left foot

[@jamesbryce5187]

how did it sound without the triggers? consistent power?

[@beyondbetrayal]

I have a few videos where I play without triggers on my channel. If you pull them back further and adjust your springs you can get pretty consistent. Shoes will help. You won't be playing at these speeds as consistent though.

[@wtnvlog67]

Whats the height of the footboard? Thanks for making this video and your explanation.

[@Lucidfilth]

Heel toe is easier than slide or swivel. It helps, its just effective but easier to master. Good kick pedals help alot too. And every drummer is different. Awesome video this...

[@nasanction]

New Drummer here, just bought a cheap used electric kit and it came with Gibraltar Rocks double beaters. They any good? Even as a complete noob, this is the best explanation how to correctly heal toe, and how to setup the peddles! I could use a little more help with the peddle setup, but now I know I'm headed in the right direction.

[@beyondbetrayal]

Hey man. Congrats on the new kit.. I have an ekit also for practice. My suggestion is don't even worry about heel toe for a few years. get those single strokes going. Heel toe is going to be tough on chain drive pedals. I have direct drive pedals such as the Axis pedals which make it much easier. In the long run if you start heel toe too early your singles will suffer. I did single strokes on double kick for years before making the change. I do find heel toe has made my singles suffer still and cause me to get a bit lazy.

[@nasanction]

Do you know how to get an Allen screw out that an 800 lb. Guerrilla put in? I can't move my beaters closer to the drum head. They are back about 60 degrees.

[@TonyJBrennan]

genius

[@TheCaywood3]

Thanks

[@ryanmckenna8124]

Could you please do a video on your Pacific settings on your Demon Drives, pretty please. Love your videos, you have helped me out alot. Thank you.

[@dorianhudson6297]

So do I need to change from PDP pedals? I've been wanting to upgrade to Axis any ways because I feel they fucking suck unless it's just my feet and legs not getting the hang of the strokes or just being lazy ha ha I must know this secret kindly please sir and thanks-!-

[@beyondbetrayal]

Are your PDP chain drive? Direct drive pedals make this MUCH easier. Full disclosure I am an Axis artist now, but I wasn't when I made these videos. I don't think I would have learnt heel toe without the Axis.. Demon drives were also decent to play on bu the Axis are SOOOOO fast... Long board Direct Drive pedals are a must for this.

[@dorianhudson6297]

They are chain...

[@AleksRockZilla]

Watched Virgil Donati do his pioneering of the double bass double stroke technique on VHS in the 90’s and drooled thinking it’s impossible until this video ... this is the ultimate lesson !!!

[@waynebrucemanbat5787]

Thank you for this video. I've been considering getting back into metal and grabbing a double pedal. This and triggers must be how so many players are able to play at 250Bpms or faster

[@elmochacho3]

This is a great tutorial. My problem is I have an iron cobra power glide. I can't seem to get this technique to work without it sounding like galloping. Don't know if I need to invest in a new pedal. Any suggestions?

[@beyondbetrayal]

I had a harder time on chain pedals but never put in the time on them to be honest.

[@elmochacho3]

@@beyondbetrayal all good mate. I've just ordered a demon drive this morning 👍 thinking my country is due going into another lockdown so itll give me something to do while I'm off my work.

[@brycepace3498]

Idk if you'll reply, or if anyone will. But I'm having trouble with me left foot. My right foot (dominant) I can get a lot more power out of it compared to my left. So does anyone have any advice on how to fix this? I play with my left foot only for about 30 min a day. And still its weaker...

[@beyondbetrayal]

Make sure you are keeping time on the hats as much as you can while playing beats, fills, chops etc. It really builds up independence. Try rudiments on your feet. Lead with the left foot for a few weeks. My left foot and hand also weaker. Doing this stuff really helps.

[@brycepace3498]

@@beyondbetrayal thank you very much