Batman vs EVERY CLAYFACE | Batman: The Mud Pack

[@comicpop]

Buy The Dark Knight Detective with The Mud Pack included! amzn.to/3bBwn70

[@noreply3717]

You should do back issue on Batman/ Superman issue 16-22 and annual issue from 2021 it sliver age Batman and sliver age Superman meeting each other/ crisis on multiple earths

[@NathanOaks]

I’m the best friend of one of yawl’s biggest fans & commenters Ben Parrish. We are two nigh-40 yr olds that have been writing a 4 novel series “The Norseman Saga” that we hope to self-publish by September of 2024 Nashville in the building

[@codystork3008]

Sal's entire getting into comics monologue is just the origin story for his hunting down of the Bloodlines event.

[@96smittyjr]

its his villain origin story lol

[@ethanainsworth]

It's true. That's kinda how it was for everything before trades were everywhere. How I started too.

[@AlriikRidesAgain]

I loved just watched Tiff's face as she realized where her life had lead her.

[@sebastianmundell1655]

I was dead XD

[@MotionUniverseguy]

15:40 for anyone who wants the instant replay

[@crimsonking440]

"Then youll have to tell your wife and best friend all about it!" Ethan: *Sheds single tear*

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

Sal explaining his journey with comics and this show was hilarious.

[@sebastianmundell1655]

Killed me XD

[@dedbatt8869]

I loved it

[@galacticemperorsheevpalpat219]

Tiffany: "don't ever do this again" Sal: "The work is done. It always will be."

[@SpiralSine6]

As sad as it is now with his passing, I can’t hear Alan Grant’s name without thinking of Ben saying “the man who’s neither Alan Moore or Grant Morrison”.

[@noahkoessel]

Sal’s rant about the best way to get into comics is sooo good and accurate. Gotta clip that one asap

[@TheGreatDevlin]

I definitely thought I was getting into Green Lantern at the ground floor with the New 52 🤡. I ended up on that exact journey. Lol

[@comixproviderftw_02]

That was 9 year old me when I had parts five, six and eight of Ultimate Clone Saga

[@samw6414]

i think this is my favorite episode of back issues now

[@bZman]

I felt that journey into comics. So funny and so accurate

[@gabpintov]

Can totally agree with Sal! That was hilarious

[@playboicardigan]

15:55-16:45 is arguably a top 10 ComicPop best moment tbh

[@TheRealZubes]

I literally did not see where he was going with that until we were there.

[@Depthcharge2030]

I know the other Clayfaces are iconic for being full on clay people, but I feel that the Preston Payne Clayface is underrated. He's just so 'weird', but in a way that would make for a great horror comic. Also, RIP Alan Grant. We lost another giant.

[@exquisitecorpse__]

Absolutely, if they're going to put Clayface in the movies I hope its Payne, portrayed similarly to the Arkham Asylum: A Serious House version.

[@Brainiac1138]

I always liked Payne's character, but he never seemed like a "Clayface". Maybe he can pop up again under another name.

[@alecovan2856]

Preston Payne is basically mano from the fatal five

[@The_Phantasm]

One of my favourite versions of Clayface is from The Batman 2004 series whose name is Ethan Bennett and is an old friend of Bruce Wayne's and is an entirely original character for the show. Are you guys familiar with it? While not as good as the Animated Series, some characters like Catwoman, Hugo Strange, Batgirl and surprisingly Firefly are actually much better handled than in the animated series.

[@jonathanshaw9704]

Oh yeah, I remember that show. It was alright.

[@thegloriouswizard5270]

Thank you for being someone who remembers The Batman.

[@bensneb360]

Thank you, I also thought the animated series never really got the best handle on Catwoman. The “ Batman for the animals“ was always a weird concept, and by the time they got around to telling better Catwoman stories, it was around the fourth season with that weird redesigned… The Batman cartoon had a pretty cool Catwoman

[@ItsOver9000Productions]

2004 was my Batman. i love it more than BTAS

[@comixproviderftw_02]

Ethan Bennett had the best arc of that show

[@TheGreatDevlin]

Well, Tom King... War of Puppets and Clay. New ComicPOP challenge. I dare you. 🤣

[@jdan4752]

So before there was the three Jokers there was the four Clayfaces.

[@connorpalmer6454]

The original villains

[@Mattkeyz1]

A missed opportunity for DC to call them Clay-Force

[@joshuanelson6795]

Alan Grant (R.I.P.) and Norm Breyfogle are definitely one of my favorite duos to work on Batman, with this definitely being a highlight of their tenure on the character. However, my favorite Batman story of theirs is probably the first appearance of the Ratcatcher. That is one seriously underrated tale and character.

[@thedukeofchutney468]

This is the only comic channel where you can be having a serious discussion about Batman and then 20 seconds later have a random tangent on Jurassic Park. I love this show.

[@rohanqadir2650]

Your user name is the stuff of legends

[@thedukeofchutney468]

Thank you sir.

[@_PRIME_]

16:31 - 16:46 Ben is my exact reaction

[@ChristopherZubin]

15:52 Sal casually describing my life in comics circa 1998. Minus the show of course

[@racc4716]

“The mudpack” the story to break Sal to the point he tells his comic collecting life story

[@bensneb360]

I’m disappointed that at not one point in the story all the Clayface’s don’t morph together into a giant tidal wave and try to drown Gotham in a… Mudslide… still a fun story though

[@JohnClark-tt2bl]

Credit to Tif for keeping a straight face through Sal's rant. I was dying because I knew where he was going, but you played it totally straight while Ben was losing his shit. 🤣

[@inmybagrn]

This episode just reminded me that Alan Moore wrote that Batman annual featuring Preston Payne and his relationship with Helena. That story is legit great.

[@bibbyboxx2219]

There's no justification for calling Preston Payne a bad character when that issue exists. And his debut arc by Len Wein is great too.

[@jdan4752]

Okay Sal, I completely love your best way to get into comics tangents. That is exactly how I got into comics. This is the second time you brought it up recently. I think we need a full comic pop returns video or CBR article devoted to this topic. I actually sent the last one to my mom who taught for 20 years, has become a private tutor, and teaches English and writing. One of her elementary students loves graphic novels. So I made a clip of you talking about single issues sparking the imagination and sent it to her because it sounds like a great learning and writing activity for her student.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

The Mud Pack all share a collective brain cell, and that brain cell's coming from Matt Hagen. I only know of them because they were mentioned in my "Batman: The Ultimate Guide to the DC Comics Superhero" and Batman: Arkham Asylum. Even then, DC were so proud of the idea.

[@chrisdaily2077]

Dear gosh, I remember that guide! I used to read it constantly at my school library.

[@CapLives]

You guys covering these older stories like Contagion, Prodigal, Ten Nights of the Beast, etc have made me appreciate this classic blue and grey suit with the yellow oval. I used to think it was goofy compared to the Black and grey but I really like it now.

[@dedbatt8869]

Loved this episode. It seems like a random story arc but you ended up teaching us the long and somehow complicated history of the clayface character and powers.

[@jjh01harmon38]

I hope this story doesn't get too "muddled" in it's characters ( that's the best I had )

[@ShudderingSeagull]

@@jonasquinn7977 they really muddied the waters with this episode.

[@anthonyjr9722]

You got a chuckle out of me

[@jjh01harmon38]

@@anthonyjr9722 I try :)

[@connorpalmer6454]

Was that a dirty joke? (I gotta at least try for the pun)

[@bulletsunderpressure]

that one hurt me. thank you may I have another?

[@HollowGolem]

58:57 The split-screen of shame. Beautiful.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

Nice to see some love for the other Clayfaces. I keep forgetting there's been so many of them, since Basil's probably the most well-known of the bunch. I did enjoy Basil's semi-redemption arc in the pages of Tynion's Tec run and Ram V's Catwoman run, but I do wish Matt Hagen, Lady Clayface, or even Preston Payne could share the spotlight every once in a while.

[@terry10tnj]

Holy shit the getting into comics rant just made my entire week lmao

[@jonathanshaw9704]

Every time I think of Clayface, I think of the one from Arkham City. I would love to see Matt Reeves’ version of Clayface in a Batman sequel. 7:57- as a fan of The Flash, yes Ben. You are 100% correct about STAR Labs.

[@JoshMunroe]

Me, listening to Sal's step-by-step getting into comics explanation: That doesn't seem typical. Also me, looking at my copy of X-Force #33, part 3 of 4 of the "Child's Play" X-Force/New Warriors crossover event: Not typical at all...

[@chrisdaily2077]

Clayface always seemed like a bizarre Batman villain. I mean we have a bunch of insane genius psychopathic humans and the next cell is a highly adept shape shifting mud monster.

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

And next to him is a mutant crocodile-man, and a lady who controls plants, and a guy who dresses up like a moth, etc. Batman’s rogues gallery has always been weird.

[@NoBody-lj5xh]

You are aware that Bruce's technical father in law is an immortal demon ninja?

[@chrisdaily2077]

@@NoBody-lj5xh I am. It just seems Batman tends to have a type of an insane person in a two piece suit.

[@NoBody-lj5xh]

@@chrisdaily2077 I mean...it's not like Joker, Two-Face or The Penguin are "normal" or "grounded" just because they happen to wear suits.

[@kurtoogle4576]

I really felt connected to Sal with his rant about how to get into comic books (16:00). LOL!

[@MrZsasz25]

There is an Alan Moore story on Clayface III and his insane love affair with the manequin Helena published in 1986/1987 in an Annual...would be a fun follow-up on his, hitting several points raised and much debated on your couch (Alan Moore + Clayface III + the bewildering pseudo-sexual affair with an inanimate object).

[@comix6358]

I almost spit out my applesauce!!! "Clay my dear doctor! Clay is happening to me!"

[@GeminiTasiri]

Tiffany looking into the distance, disassociating while Sal and Ben are thinking up the "War Of Clay & Puppets", was extremely funny. Especially when it ended with "and then [Clayface 3 and 4] had a kid together"

[@caboose3708]

15:53 that’s exactly how I got deep into comics, more specifically the long ass Maximum Carnage… Christ I remember getting part 12 in my first long haul of comics from the shop and thinking how the hell did we end up here? Pete’s parents are alive? Why is Venom in chains over fire? Who is this weird six armed Spider-Man with a Venom mouth? Why are these other lame superheroes in my Spider-Man comic? And is Maryjane smoking?!?! Yeah I definitely had to get more to figure out what’s going on

[@roboters100]

Preston Payne will always hold a special place in my mudpit for the simple fact Lein created him with Rogers Mudpack for me is just pure comic book goodness.

[@craigamore2319]

Sal's getting into comics monologue is 100% the way it happens for the average comics fan....minus his autobiographical success story at the end.

[@willsimbala4291]

After the epic first 17 minutes (and identifying so hard with the "people getting out of comics give you their random comics" bit) I'm watching the rest of the episode even if its an hour of fart noises.

[@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038]

My first Batman comic was Legend of Dark knight 195 with Clay Face origin where he crushed everyone's skull with his hands and wrecks Batman. Fell in love with Batman stories immediately. It was so gothic and scary. That was written by Alan Grant too!!

[@fearnloathingingeneral]

18:25 ......what a wonderful sound.

[@R.J.Godzilla81]

@1:35 What about some kinda weird Clayface-esque Voltron; Cassius Payne, Sondra Fuller form feet and legs, Basil Karlo, Preston Payne form arms and body, and I Matt Hagen will form the head. (LOL)

[@ChristopherZubin]

This is sounding like one of those comics that reminds you how goofy comics could be And how good you had it watching Batman the Animated Series when you were a kid. How lucky I was to get BTAS at the right time.

[@the_rose_garden01]

"And you explain it to your wife and best friend and they have to listen to you because that's how they get paid."

[@Jakehatred666]

Fun fact, Preston and Lady Clay go on to have a kid called Cascious Clay Payne who is another Clayface in his own right for a time before Karlo returns

[@jakehamilton1589]

Sal’s way into comics is exactly how I got into comics. My first comics when I was 7 were Detective comics 588 (part 2/3) and a reprint of ASM 102 ( part 3 of the Six Arm Saga). Hooked me in and I’ve read ever since.

[@joshuarichmond2688]

The Preston Payne and mannequin story was written by Alan Moore

[@goldendreamer8578]

My introduction to Clayface was the Ethan Bennet version from The Batman (2004) series. Loved that version.

[@kitkatsneakattack7933]

15:40 well now I want a Biopic on Sal

[@THE_Dodge_Morningstar]

😂This story was ABSURD! I loved it so much.

[@priceyyeti4058]

I mean... Sal's not wrong on how to get into comics. I inherited a bunch of 90s-early 00s books from my step-mom's brother and there were some gems in there. Dude had the entire FF vs. X-Men series and a four-part storyline where the Batfamily (and Huntress) were hunted by the military.

[@SpiralSine6]

That Batfam story actually sounds kinda cool, you wouldn’t happen to remember what that story’s called would you?

[@priceyyeti4058]

@@SpiralSine6 Just dug it up, it's called "Batman: Outlaws." Cover of one of the books is of Batman holding the corpse of Jim Gordon. Series was written by Doug Moench with art by Charles Yoakum.

[@draiseg6178]

Anarky would be AMAZING!!! I love that lil guy so much.

[@enerstar]

This... is probably my favorite video from you guys now

[@masonturpen3869]

I watch this episode at least once a month or so everything I love about this show is distilled into this episode and turned up to 11

[@jdan4752]

Always excited for another back issues. Thanks for making my work infinitely more entertaining.

[@TheSpiderworks]

You can have a relationship as long as you keep the "glove on" nice one Tiffany lol

[@bradwatkins7564]

It occurs to me that what Gotham really needs is Code Enforcement. I mean if you just tear down all the abandoned amusement parks, movie theaters, toy factories......etc. These guys would not have such easy access to lairs. I mean there's a housing shortage and that's what drives them all to Gotham and why they just do not leave for greener pastures.

[@orkess8634]

fun fact: Alan moore wrote a romeo and juliet style story about clayface 3 and a mannequin in a mall.

[@Archnenmsis_91]

16:45 Well that shit just broke the fourth wall

[@godzy323]

Sal....i had issues 2-3 of 4 of the MudPack. Never knew what was happening and everything you said is so true! Except I don't have my own show to force my non-wife and best friend about them haha

[@DanV900]

Tiffany at the end saying, “Don’t ever do this again” was great stuff.

[@bigevil1001]

15:27 I just realized they’ve NEVER done Age of Apocalypse!!! 😮

[@nyloc5795]

Found all 4 issues in a dollar bin at a second hand store when I was looking for old cheap comics to wrap my Christmas presents in. I chose not to wrap my presents in this since it was a complete series but I very much debated it.

[@MissingShogiPiece]

Sal: " ...and he falls.....he falls forever...." *Affleck Batman bust-in* "And what falls....is fallen...." 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@theadmiral7471]

So this a story where we take a classic Batman villain, through their multiple iterations, and have them come together as a team to take him down? Geoff Johns you have some explaining to do.

[@qliphalpuzzle5453]

I went down the Clayface rabbit hole and found out there’s 8 in total including the son

[@hobowagonable]

That split screen reaction was perfect.

[@startrekfanman]

“He gets a full mud bath but guess who’s givin him the bath” 😂😂😂

[@antgto]

When I saw the notification for this at work earlier, I told the nearest coworker how excited I was that someone remembered a silly Batman story from my childhood, and made a video about it. This is sure to be a fun one.

[@diegoortiz5139]

Every time Tiffany says "What?" I just immediately think of Norman Osborn

[@linknlog]

What a delightfully absurd story. Also, my first comic was part 12 of Maximum Carnage, so I can confirm that is the best way to get into comics.

[@benhramiak8781]

15:34 First issues i picked up were spiderman, part of the back in black storyline. Also the last issue of spiderman: reign.

[@Ducaso]

Sal’s advice on how to get into comics is pretty good.

[@LaughEntertainmentz]

"Thats rogue..." "yea, but no its lady clayface" hahahahahhahahah

[@bigfest6498]

Sal is right. When I was about 10, a neighbor of mine gave me about 100 comics because he was older. I did the same for my buddies kid when I got older. Hopefully he does the same because theres a lot of trash out there, but at least 80s comics were funny. Love you guys.

[@blackphoenix77]

I got all four issues of Mudpack a few years ago. It's not Shakespeare or anything, but I enjoyed it. Comics are supposed to be silly and weird; they don't have to be Watchmen all the time. Also, Sasha Wood has an entire playlist about all the Clayfaces on her Casually Comics KZbin channel if anyone is interested.

[@saketiswara]

15:40 best moment great mini rant and I love how it tied to ur current life lol

[@tbone6932]

15:40 start of sals story

[@Ka_Five]

Hell yeah a Clayface story! It's definitely summer!

[@Martin_TheCollector]

It is unfortunate how very little Clayface appears in the Arkham games, but the design was kinda cool. Besides BTAS, he's rarely that interesting in the comics. Imagine if Joker wasn't getting overused often and other baddies got the spotlight. I'm sure some talented writers can make real magic happen.

[@robertwild9447]

@37:45 I understood that reference 😂

[@Grievousish]

Man i can't believe Geoff Johns ripped off The Mud Pack to make Three Jokers

[@jonfrombuckland_3784]

Look. Is this story dumb? Absolutely. But is is incredibly fun, and like Sal said, a great story to get into comics? ABSOLUTELY.

[@ninja1man4u]

Hell yeah the mud pack what an awesome story this episodes gonna be amazing!!

[@kazual6149]

Couldn't agree more about getting into comics. My 1st 2 comics were Wolverine #38 & the issue of nightfall where Azrael beats up Bane with his new edgy Bat-suit with wrist-mounted Batarang guns. I had no idea what was going on but I had to find out how this dude become Batman.

[@itsporkroll3401]

Well someone did it, DJ Spider cosplayed as Looker for DragonCon 2009, and its spot on!

[@jamie5659]

Great advice from Sal. Going down the rabbit hole is the most fun way to get into anything, imo.

[@aidanmartin546]

10/10 I recommend to all my friends. My wife and I love to watch this every week

[@TheRealZubes]

🥰

[@draiseg6178]

Bro!!! It would be awesome if yall really did an episode on Anarky! He's legit one of my favorite bat characters. Mostly because he's a try hard dork, but he's also done things like defeat an lovcraftian beast while wielding a Green Lanturn ring along side Kyle Rainer.

[@Sicod79]

I would say for modern audiences, the Harley Clayface is moving up in the world.

[@Drakeo83]

Alan Tudyk is a treasure

[@Sicod79]

International Treasure

[@flywheelshyster]

There's a reason why we all consider BTAS one of the best iterations in history. That clayface IS THE clayface

[@The_Phantasm]

I think I kind of prefer the Basil Karlo Rebirth version of him. Granted that one is heavily inspired by the Animated Series version of him but I think the Rebirth one is slightly more developed. I also have a soft spot for classic Basil Karlo because as much as I love the Animated Series Clayface one thing I didn't like was that he wanted to become human again.

[@jaytheartman610]

Clayface 3 could really become a great tragic villain if they gave him a chance

[@Thrui]

4:10 Ok, i thought i was the only one lol

[@haydenna6188]

Great episode! Heres the pitch ocean 11s style Mudpack invades themyscara to steal the clay. Wonder Woman/ Batman: the Mudpact

[@Yungtacosss]

This whole episode was fucking hilarious lol.

[@brancorocks]

Man oh man i have just started the episode but gave it a like because of the title alone Mudpack that's the most hilarious and on the nose title for a clayface story 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@alexoram]

That was hilarious! Thanks for doing that story. It's quite fitting that the history of Clayface is so messy.

[@Jakehatred666]

My god thank you for this! This group has perplexed and obsessed me since my early teen years! I always read up on them every couple of years lol ane coincidentally I bought that Clayface figure as seen in Walmart last night 🤣 this episode was meant to be haha

[@Bobbybillybillbob]

Fun Fact- The Matt Hagen version of Clayface has a similar origin, except he is trapped in the Lazarus pit rather them a cave goo