Battle of Giants: Roland Integra-7 vs Yamaha Montage Acoustic & Electric Sounds Comparison

[@Bronwyn031]

Hands down the Integra has literally every instrument known to man in its library. I went looking for Spanish castanets for a track I was working on. I checked my NI, Spitfire, Arturia libraries and couldn't find one. I said, "What the heck, let's check the Intergra 7." I had to use the PDF file to search for castanet because the 6500 tones on the Integra is a bit too much to search through manually. Holy s**t the Intergra 7 has like 4 castanets that are fully modeled. If you ever need an instrument, I'm sure there's one on the I7.

[@xenobiigaming]

Integra-7 wins by a longshot with the articulations

[@JDBlackbelt]

wish they'd put the Montage i a rack mount...

[@ivanalberto3547]

INTEGRA 7 ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ The best . Yamaha Montage too much reverb.

[@etpslick100]

Me personally, I like both! I would love to have the integra 7 NOW since I listen to both. So what the I-7 is old? The motif EX and XS is old as well and I know guys/gals STILL record & perform with them. The montage is great with the orchestral sounds and the I-7 is great on it’s own also. It’s just a matter of taste and creativity. They both sound great!😌🎹🎶👍🏾

[@1stTimeproject]

I7 so real - montage still to keyboard sound

[@Time_Sound]

Good. But it would be more correct to play the same musical cuts on both instruments... Integra little better in my ears.

[@LordBiffMusic]

never liked yamaha keyboards much.. dno what it is

[@royanderson2745]

Is this really a fair comparison? Different sequences, fx, etc., for instrument comparison? Should each instrument have played the same sequence, with the same fx etc?

[@ArhipelagGoogla]

It wasn't pure contest - Roland with its pretty dry sound didn't have such reverb and delay as Yamaha. But anyway... :))

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

You dont need reverb on everything. lol

[@ArmandoFerrerMusic]

Montage tends to sound thin and has to use big amounts of reverbs (violins for example) to hide its weaknesses. Roland integra7 sounds much more realistic and organic in my opinion. I have several songs composed and peformed in my channel using only integra7 sounds e.g. kzbin.info/www/bejne/faWvfZqFa7-oeKM

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

Thus, Messing with a few, I feel the sounds from korg and yahama sound thin compare to roland, Its much more meat on the sounds and it has more of a realistic sound as you said.

[@josephramone5805]

Woh!! That Keith Emerson B3 from the Roland was KILLER!! ❗️TARKUS❗️

[@ДмитрийФинский-м1я]

26:26 - Very Amazing!

[@crazzylee]

Roland for me on this one. Reverb was used a lot with the Yamaha.

[@ArhipelagGoogla]

... and didn't help to get first place )

[@geoffk777]

In general, I think that the Montage sounded a little better, although the reverb was a bit much on some of the sounds. Even so, the Roland sounded excellent and it also has all of the XV and JD sounds, so it would be a great addition to any studio.

[@followyourpassion8378]

I like Montage pianos better. Also the reverb. I liked the finger/slap bass on Integra. Also the violin (with some reverb added) could be really good.

[@electrofuzz7396]

The Integra sounds good, the Montage.... I don't know, every preset was hidden behind too much reverb (at least to my guitar player ears)

[@bradmodd7856]

like hidden MSG

[@yannseven7096]

Both are great with different sounds. I would choose the Modx with the Integra 7.

[@shad0wfax]

The Integra combined with a MODX/Montage is a killer setup!

[@etpslick100]

@@shad0wfax I’m thinking about getting the I-7 and hooking it up with a XF8 (I know the XF is outdated but those pianos and orchestral sounds are so warm to my ears; can’t part with it). That would be a crazy combo. But the MODX and I-7? Oh hell yeah! DEFINITELY KILLER!!😕🎹🎶👍🏾

[@briansherling5515]

I sold my integra three years ago to buy a new 2019 Mac Pro desktop WHICH WERENT CHEAP! I gotta say, I have yet to find certain sounds in sound libraries on my Mac. I used to use mark of unicorn Mach 5.3 but they stopped updating it which is a crying shame considering how absolutely useful that program was. I am seriously thinking of getting another integra. The electric pianos and pianos and drums and acoustic bass and Solo strings and brass are hard to argue with. Tge synths aren’t bad either. It’s a very strong contender and considering age, that’s quite a compliment. If MOTU would work on Mach 5.3 if prolly go with that but the integra is a very useful tool!

[@astrahcat1212]

I'm thinking of getting one, because I've spent 15 years composing with these ultra realistic sounds, don't do film score commission work anymore, just working on making soundtracks for games, and I'm sick of all the logins, internet requirements, and ilok madness, slow load times. Just miss the days of having a keyboard when I first started, and just starting it up and composing midi files.

[@Kung_Fu_Jesus]

The Roland just sounds more natural

[@horsesavy4570]

Throw some more Verb into the I7 and it would sound far more simmilar to the Yamaha, add s bit of Chorus also and they would both be near dead on. I have used the I7 nearly since its beginning. The Yamaha may be more out of the box sound friendly over the I7 but a good engineer could get them sounding near exact

[@shad0wfax]

I totally agree. Yamaha usually provide their synths with very polished, "finished" presets. With the Roland you have to work a bit more in order to get the sound you want. The quality and the resources are there, but it requires effort and practice to get the most out of it.

[@firstnamelastname8197]

please roland bring all these supernatural integra7 sound as a new hardware instrument or as expansions🥺

[@yannseven7096]

I have a modx and an I 7, both are great for different things. I7 : supernatural synths, supernatural drums, supernatural flugelhorn and famous SRX cards. The Modx excels at orchestrals and keyboards. It has 1gb of mutisample capabilities. So to have the two is great.

[@meilstone]

Do the SRX cards sound different in an I7 from older Roland models such as Fantom X-series?

[@MJamesIII]

as an owner of both, i prefer the montage for anything keyboard related.

[@shad0wfax]

Yes, I also regard piano and organ sounds as better in the Yamaha. Other categories are more on a par or even slightly better in the Roland, IMO.

[@lellotunisino]

I have since many years ago Yamaha Motif Rack XS and for the scenario Is not changed too much...still XS Rack sound great as well since all this time Is passed

[@WARDISWARD]

It would make much more sense if both were playing the same midi files instead of the baked in audition midi files .

[@shad0wfax]

I partially disagree. In an ideal context, the best alternative would be to use the exact same midi files, but generic midi files wouldn't show all the potential of each machine. I mean that both the Integra and the Montage take advantage in their audition phrases of the different functions and parameters related to each type of sound. For instance, many audition phrases on the Montage control the values of the "super knob" in order to control different nuances of the sound and/or effects. In the same way, the Integra also modifies parameters like different paying techniques (e.g. harmonics, mute, falls, pizzicato...) or the amount of noise/resonance or whatever. If the same midi files were used, the "native" source would benefit from them and would lead to the biased impression that it sounds much better than the other. The most balanced and fair option is that each synth uses their own sources.

[@WARDISWARD]

@@shad0wfax Yeah , you're right about that

[@penponds]

@@shad0wfaxgood point.

[@abohsukampret]

Can you hook the Integra-7 to a Roli Seaboard?

[@shad0wfax]

Well, I don't know much about the Roli, but as long as it has midi ports, there should be no problem...

[@manofmatter.yvezchannel]

i just need a soundmodule, more compact!

[@truthmanifestingtruth]

Both capable. I’m surprised that I actually give the integra 7 the edge here. They’re close though. I wouldn’t dismiss an argument for either side.

[@ZiwaHD]

If I had to choose it would most definitely be integra

[@raghunath8397]

Integra 7 is a Beast

[@PauloRibeiroMusic]

Roland ❤

[@gregaudrey307]

Having said that, the I7 is still holding it's own. I've always been a fan of the I7.

[@abrahamsg8318]

Roland would easily CUT through the Mass ... While Montage provide the re verbed background....

[@dietmarschlichtherle7061]

If the Yamaha were a rack system I´d like it to have, both systems are working and sounding fine 🙂

[@michaelvu225]

I could tell when the sounds came from the Montage without looking from the reverb..Reverb can make a patch sound more alive but there seems to be too much reverb on every sound on the Montage in my opinion.

[@PC0067]

Aujourd'hui c'est plus d'actualité. On va beaucoup plus loin avec des VST de qualité.

[@briansherling5515]

I forgot to actually compare the montage….there’s a lot to like about the Yamaha but it lacks the acoustic realism of the integra and the integra has tons of outs and internal mixing strengths.

[@naturalrestingface1884]

Integra all the way in every field (kick drum aside, in drums) ! I'm surprised by it, not so much the EP's but flamenco guitars are pretty darn close. Brass is ok but not amazing. I love Yamaha for their CLP and acoustic pianos but that's it.

[@alostr11]

Great comparison ! @david Could you tell,what composition you play at 1.07 of this video ? (when you play Acoustic piano upright tack Piano) ?

[@meilstone]

I think the Montage is superior in many ways (especially organs, strings and guitars) but it also has newer technology with more elements per sound and more memory. The added reverb on the Montage definitely makes it harder to compare.

[@KingzofSwing]

6000 presets to less than 3600 on Yamaha

[@meilstone]

@@KingzofSwing Nice to know... I'd never trade my Integra for a Montage 😂

[@fabyan...]

15:54 tha cello sounds incridible

[@gregaudrey307]

I enjoyed the vid, but a more fair comparison would be the Montage vs. the flagship Roland Fantom (similar price point).

[@shad0wfax]

Sure, but sadly I don't have a Fantom (donations are welcome 😉). AFAIK, the Fantom's synthesis engine is different and it does not include the "SuperNatural Acoustic" sounds of the I7.

[@gregaudrey307]

@@shad0wfax Yes, I believe you're right about the Fantom not having the Super Natural sounds.

[@Maximgurman]

Both are very good and enough for good music. The are brothers now, not enemies.

[@shad0wfax]

Sure, they are both fantastic machines, and for that reason I own both of them ;) The aim of this video is just to showcase the differences, not to state a "winner" and a "loser".

[@garryhairston5839]

Yamaha

[@KevboKev]

As much as I would LOVE a rack-mounted instrument like the Integra 7, got to say that the Montage pretty much dominated in all categories, especially with the acoustic instruments. The guitar was much better, and even the flute and clarinet. Heck, the clarinet actually sounded like a clarinet on the Montage. The Integra was definitely great during it's time, but that time is long gone. Thanks for the video! Very nicely done, and great playing!

[@a-nus]

Yamaha owner detected

[@KevboKev]

@@a-nus Actually I own a Korg and a Roland. No Yamaha. 🙂

[@kendewitt5811]

Hello David, sorry to post here off topic, but have you published the settings on your Roland Fantom XR when you made the Sierra On-Line soundtracks? I'm interested in sourcing a Fantom XR for the purposes of having that same level of music for in-game play, but don't have the slightest idea on feasibility. If you'd be willing to share any information, I'd appreciate it. If not, thanks for your contributions!

[@shad0wfax]

Hi Ken, thank you for your interest in my versions of Sierra's soundtracks; it was quite long ago though, as I sold the Fantom XR to buy the (then) new Integra-7, and that was over 10 years ago. I'm not sure if I understand you well, but if you are thinking in using the Fantom as an in-game sound source, at most you'd be using the General Midi sounset (in GM-compatible games), which are indeed the weakest ones of that synth. When I made my versions I worked directly on the MIDI data of the games, using Cubase and the Fantom-X software editor. It required quite a lot of work (which had mostly to be done by hand), and it was for having an alternative (and hopefully better sounding) soundtrack, but not to listen directly to the Fantom while playing the games. Hope this helps!

[@kendewitt5811]

@@shad0wfaxThere is no "hopefully" about it, your version sounds WAY better than the General Midi in-game soundtrack IMHO. Also, with all due respect to Mr. Hodges, I like your version better than his remake. I thought that it was a case where you needed to specify which instruments play for which sound bank, or something similar. Not sure if that is the same as what you did to produce your awesome version, but it sounds like a lot of work nonetheless. I'll continue to learn more about MIDI as I find it really interesting. Thanks for taking the time to answer, and for arranging that sound track. It remains one of my favorites even to this day :)

[@loftfive-p9k]

Is it me or does the montage sound better on every example?

[@astrahcat1212]

Compression and reverb on them, Integra was just dryer.

[@podcastdude]

It’s you.

[@fabyan...]

the guitar sounds of intega are so pathetic against montage.montage sound are realy realistic,roland sound like a 70 bugs casio keyboard.yamaha kills roland

[@lustrousmetal3677]

Integra-7 Definitely.