Battle of the 1973 Wagons: AMC Ambassador Brougham vs. Chevrolet Caprice Estate Wagon!

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Rare Classic Cars & Automotive History

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@Josie2013
@Josie2013 Жыл бұрын
The AMC Ambassador wagon was the only new car my parents would buy until they stopped making them. They would buy a new one every two or three years. When they brought it home from the dealership I could hardly wait to go for a ride and breathe in that wonderful new car aroma.
@HAL-dm1eh
@HAL-dm1eh Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you had wise parents.
@scootergeorge7089
@scootergeorge7089 Жыл бұрын
@@HAL-dm1eh - The Blue Book value on used AMC products was measurably lower than Ford, GM, and Chrysler. Through the late sixties and into the early seventies, my father owned three AMC vehicles. He said they were great values as used but poor as new because the loss in resale value.
@-oiiio-3993
@-oiiio-3993 Жыл бұрын
Mom had a 1973 Ambassador SST purchased new.
@michaelcoffey7362
@michaelcoffey7362 Жыл бұрын
Cool 🥰
@Alan-lv9rw
@Alan-lv9rw Жыл бұрын
That wagon is one of the best looking AMC cars ever made. Very classy and not odd in any way.
@jamescarrington5521
@jamescarrington5521 Жыл бұрын
I agree; the Rambler looked, Idk...normal in the back, whereas we used to say that my aunt's Chevy wagon looked like it had, well...a fat ass in back by comparison, lol.
@dansmusic5749
@dansmusic5749 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%
@HAL-dm1eh
@HAL-dm1eh Жыл бұрын
I like his "handsome" description when he uses it, usually he's right on the money.
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 Жыл бұрын
I like this AMC too. Unlike most of their vehicles, this doesn’t look weird.
@SnickasBah
@SnickasBah Жыл бұрын
It still has a weird nerdy factor but to a lesser degree.
@johncarroll1403
@johncarroll1403 Жыл бұрын
The Ambassador - hands down. Thanks for yet another great presentation Adam.
@InTeCredo
@InTeCredo Жыл бұрын
My father moved to the United States from Germany in 1973 due to his secondment, and he ordered his fleet car to the hilt: 1973 Chevrolet Impala with 400 cid V8 engine. That became our first-ever American car, station wagon, car with V8 engine, air-conditioning, power windows, power locks, etc., and the largest car we ever owned. Being 7-year-old boy in 1974, I couldn't believe how ENORMOUS the car was and was very fascinated with the air conditioning on hot days and with the power windows. My mum had to learn how to drive the massive car gingerly and carefully since she was so used to driving the tiny Mini in Germany. One negative thing about the Chevy was that annoying seat belt interlocking alert. My father, being the electrician by trade before becoming the executive director, figured a way to disable the system. We kept the car until 1976 until the company insisted on replacing it with a smaller Malibu (one of two worst fleet cars we ever had). We regretted not buying it from the company and keeping it for a longer bit.
@jhbb68
@jhbb68 Жыл бұрын
The first family car I remember was my dad's 1969 AMC Ambassador DPL (diplomat) wagon... he was so proud that it was the first new car he bought....and it came standard with AC. We had that thing until 1980. Good times
@scootergeorge7089
@scootergeorge7089 Жыл бұрын
My folks owned a '68 Ambassador with A/C. But it also had the standard 232 6. Was a slug on steep grades especially with A/C on.
@-oiiio-3993
@-oiiio-3993 Жыл бұрын
Mom got a new '69 Ambassador SST with the 343. Our second new car after Dad's Corvair.
@johnchildress6717
@johnchildress6717 Жыл бұрын
AC was standard and all Ambassadors came with ac.
@johnz8210
@johnz8210 Жыл бұрын
Cool. Between the two I pick the AMC. Just more fun to drive and a little smaller. That wind deflector on the back of the roof actually worked, kept the glass clean.
@scrambler69-xk3kv
@scrambler69-xk3kv Жыл бұрын
My parents bought a number of AMC cars through the years. One of them was a 1973 Ambassador Brougham , not a wagon but a 4 door sedan. silver with a silver vinyl top blue interior. They purchased it shortly after I got my drivers license many wonderful memories of that car.
@audieconrad8995
@audieconrad8995 Жыл бұрын
The Ambassadors were a very all'round solid car. Gorgeous green! That 401 was no slouch - definitely meant business. Interesting video Adam!
@-oiiio-3993
@-oiiio-3993 Жыл бұрын
Mom's '69 was a 343, light and quick.
@audieconrad8995
@audieconrad8995 Жыл бұрын
@@-oiiio-3993 ah! The Typhoon 343! Very solid [and not so well known] motor! 👍🏻
@-oiiio-3993
@-oiiio-3993 Жыл бұрын
@@audieconrad8995 I had forgotten the 'Typhoon' moniker. My first was a 'Y' Block (312 Ford, 1956), followed by a 'Rocket' (303 Olds V8, 1953). I've run a 409 (replacement for a 348 in a 1959 Impala Sport Coupe), 'Nailhead' Buicks, Cadillacs (390, 472, 500), various other engines in various vehicles. My current 'daily' is a flatfendered Jeep with hopped up 225 Buick 'Odd Fire' V6 which GM called 'Fireball' until they sold it to Kaiser who rechristened it 'Dauntless'. The 'Typhoon' was akin to a 327 Chevy (among my all time favorites), if not a bit more 'punchy'.
@audieconrad8995
@audieconrad8995 Жыл бұрын
@-oiiio- lotta classics my friend! A flatfendered jeep with 225 - wow! Keep'er between the lines brothah!
@-oiiio-3993
@-oiiio-3993 Жыл бұрын
@@audieconrad8995 Rubber side down.
@GrotrianSeiler
@GrotrianSeiler Жыл бұрын
Sorry Adam, but you left out the best car of all, our 1973 Pontiac Grand Safari. That car had so much torque my mom used to make all us kids car sick the way she was on the gas off the gas and then hit those over assisted power brakes. Funny memories. That car went through Jungle Habitat in central NJ many times. What a hoot. Always loved that clamshell tailgate. That car was a monster. Never gave my parents a problem. Great car.
@gearheadgregwi
@gearheadgregwi Жыл бұрын
Grew up in AMC cars. Will never forget the iconic door handles.
@markdc1145
@markdc1145 Жыл бұрын
Still look good over 50 years later. Door handles are becoming flush again.
@Henry_Jones
@Henry_Jones Жыл бұрын
Jeep still uses them on the wranglers rear tailgate.
@LlyleHunter
@LlyleHunter Жыл бұрын
Their interior quality has really stood the test of time better than most any manufacturer including many international manufacturers. I’ve noticed it in many videos on AMCs that are fifty years old
@audieconrad8995
@audieconrad8995 Жыл бұрын
​@@LlyleHunter couldn't agree more!
@tarkus522
@tarkus522 Жыл бұрын
My Dad bought a 72 Chevy Kingswood wagon brand new. In 1973 parlance that would be an Impala wagon. Dad worked in construction and that wagon got a lot of heavy use plus we had 6 kids so we often loaded it up. Ours was a 6 passenger model - Dad wanted the larger underfloor storage area that the 6 passenger model provided. A manual tailgate was standard, like the blue one in your pictures. Never had an issue with it. We did have to replace the rear window motor but as I recall it was easy to get to in the spare tire well. The weight may have hurt the gas mileage, but to this day its the best car I ever drove in the snow! Lots of memories in that car. It went through a few of us kids. I was the last to have it as a snow/winter car.
@joelb8653
@joelb8653 Жыл бұрын
My folks owned an Ambassador with the 360 that I learned to drive in. Damn I loved that car, thanks for the nostalgia.
@-oiiio-3993
@-oiiio-3993 Жыл бұрын
Mom's '69 had a 343. Light and quick for a wagon. That was the car I often used for my high school dates, did lots of 'parking' on Mulholland Drive and at drive in theaters.
@strawberryhellcat4738
@strawberryhellcat4738 Жыл бұрын
The fully reclining seats were an innovation from the Nash Motors portion of AMC, a feature which originally stemmed from their "Bed-in-a-Car" option first developed in 1936, and later modified in 1950 and called "Airliner Reclining Seats". However, many of us who owned AMCs just referred to them as "Nash seats", and they were remarkably comfortable if you had a need to sleep in your car on long road trips or overnight drives.
@boataxe4605
@boataxe4605 Жыл бұрын
And fathers hated it when boyfriends picked up their daughters in one!
@-oiiio-3993
@-oiiio-3993 Жыл бұрын
@@boataxe4605 I often drove Mom's '69 Ambassador SST wagon to the local passion pits (drive in theaters) and to Mulholland Drive back in the day.
@70sleftover
@70sleftover Жыл бұрын
I learned of "Nash seats" from an episode of Happy Days in the mid-late '70s. My dad, watching with us, then explained how his '60 Rambler Super had them.
@dansmusic5749
@dansmusic5749 4 ай бұрын
AMC used full coil seats. My ’70 Ambassador had some of the most comfortable seats I’ve ever sat in.
@Sid-jx4gl
@Sid-jx4gl 3 ай бұрын
Knew a couple of people who lived in ambassadors one wagon one not
@trueblood6335
@trueblood6335 Жыл бұрын
My family had a 66 Chevy 9-seat wagon growing up...when going on a long road trip, my parents would fold down the 2nd seat, load the luggage there (and the roof rack, if necessary), and then put their 3 kiddos in the rear facing seat....it worked great for them (no more listening to: "are we there, yet?") and for us (we just simply played kids games, including mooning other cars...)...
@chrisp2034
@chrisp2034 Жыл бұрын
I had a 74 Caprice Estate wagon, with a 454, not that fast, but it did tow well, had it for over ten years and the only thing that went bad was the power steering pump, was extremely reliable car. Used to drive it to a place called needles in the California desert (115°+ in the summer), Towing a trailer and the car never overheated, wish I had it now. If I had known dual exhaust got me 30 horsepower I would have had it put on.
@jaynareynolds3684
@jaynareynolds3684 Жыл бұрын
The Chevy tailgate was marketed by GM as the Glide Away Door. The term clamshell was a moniker bestowed by others.
@markdc1145
@markdc1145 Жыл бұрын
Never noticed the very Buick-like curve to the Ambassador wood grain applique before. A very handsome wagon indeed!
@CPS396
@CPS396 Жыл бұрын
Love this video. Regarding the price difference between the 2 wagons, when you take into account that the Ambassador had air conditioning standard whereas on the Caprice a/c was an extra cost option, there really wasn't that much of a price difference. I didn't appreciate the Ambassador back then, but now I agree with you. I'd pick the Ambassador.
@phillipbouchard4197
@phillipbouchard4197 Жыл бұрын
My choice would be the AMC wagon as it did not have the clamshell tailgate which were very trouble prone. As you indicated the interior finish of the AMC was superior to the Chevrolet and due to the weight difference gas mileage would have been better. AMC hands down! Thanks for the video.
@MrTPF1
@MrTPF1 Жыл бұрын
I bought a severely used '73 Caprice in the 80's, and man, that thing was a tank, and it didn't go past a gas station with that big V8. AMC's cars were cool designs and good looking, but they weren't too popular in central MA where I grew up, and I'm not sure why. Probably because their dealer network wasn't nearly as well developed as the competition. You'd see them on the road but not nearly as common as the Big 3.
@efs83dws
@efs83dws Жыл бұрын
My Dad had an Ambassador wagon. There were 7 in our family. It was a great car. Comfortable and dependable.
@MillerMeteor74
@MillerMeteor74 Жыл бұрын
My parents had a 1972 Chrysler Town & Country with the third seat. That car was later replaced with a 1975 model. My brother and I loved riding back there on the family trips. My aunt and uncle had one of those clamshell wagons. Theirs was a 1975 Buick Estate Wagon. My great-grandmother never liked sitting on the right side of the middle seat in that car, but did like it in our car, the Chrysler. As an adult I've always wanted a GM clamshell wagon. But that AMC is a real beauty.
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 Жыл бұрын
The right middle row seat was called a jump seat. I liked it, but my fave is the way back.
@bruceclarkson7656
@bruceclarkson7656 Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. I voted for the AMC by currently owning one. Admittedly mine in a 68 Ambassador DPL wagon so it's very similar but not identical. We just drove it from NC to Florida and back about a week ago. Great smooth trip. Last year, drove it from NC to Kenosha to Freeport Maine to NC. Also a smooth trip. Still a great road car.
@rjanderson7394
@rjanderson7394 Жыл бұрын
"Car Nut" since '51 and really appreciated in the Fall of '55 my Dad buying a '56 Mercury 9 Passenger Wagon! There were 8 of us and was the very first time did not have to stand up looking out a back window!!!
@AbcDef-iq4no
@AbcDef-iq4no Жыл бұрын
Where AMC excelled in the early 70s was with their lower-end four-door Matadors, which were tough, plain-Jane utilitarian vehicles. This is why so many of them were used by police departments or government agencies. As a matter of fact, in the late-70s one of my best friends bought a government-issue 1970 Matador four-door with a six-cylinder engine, and this was such a tough, reliable car. My friend loved this car, but also joked that the only options this car came with was a steering wheel and a heater.
@johnbrooke2764
@johnbrooke2764 Жыл бұрын
Amc Wagon would be my vote, thanks for the video.
@wmennisny
@wmennisny Жыл бұрын
Wonderfully esoteric comparison that you're only going to find on this channel. Totally love these videos!
@scottlevine7646
@scottlevine7646 Жыл бұрын
Here here, you can’t geek out too much more than this. And I love it! But give me power windows please, regardless of the brand.
@wmennisny
@wmennisny Жыл бұрын
@@scottlevine7646 So true! I don't think I've ever seen an AMC with power windows! I guess they made them, but I've never seen one.
@tombrown1898
@tombrown1898 Жыл бұрын
We had a set of cousins whose family car was a 1973 Caprice Estate wagon. When they came for a visit, and were pulling out to go home, I looked at the car and thought, "That's the biggest car I've ever seen!" It was as massive as a Suburban. As for the mouse fur headliners coming down, there was a van conversion shop in my hometown that repaired them at very little cost, and they looked as good as new. I had two Oldsmobiles done by them.
@777jones
@777jones Жыл бұрын
AMC seemed pretty focused on basic, solid mechanicals, taking their pick of the other OEM parts bins. I like that.
@Al-thecarhistorian
@Al-thecarhistorian Жыл бұрын
This is (for me) your ultimate video. It really hits home for so many reasons. I have a personal and up close experience with the clamshell wagons as I owned a 1976 Pontiac Bonneville Grand Safari wagon that was loaded with every option except cornering lights. The power rear gate never ever acted up and the space behind the third row seat would make a modern CUV cry with envy, I put it on a truck scale and it weighed over 5600 lbs. It was so large I moved my sister-in-law's entire apartment (furniture, clothing-everything) in one load. It was not as quiet as some other wagons and the LEAF SPRING rear suspension was a bit stiff. Highway cruising was wonderful and passenger comfort was outstanding. And oh what a wonderful sound when you punched it and all 4-barrels opened up. The sound did cost gas money as steady cruising was good for about 11 mpg. Playing hot rod took that number into the single digits. And after 44 years of marriage and 46 cars, this is still my wife's favorite! For reasons I will go into later, I'd definitely go with the Ambassador wagon over the Chevy in 1973. I was in the market for a new wagon in 1973. Was totally In love with a friend's '72 Ambassador Brougham wagon. That wagon started my love affair with AMC. But family was all GM (in-laws) or Ford (my dad). I wanted the Impala wagon but it was too long for my garage. So I settled for a Gran Torino wagon in pee green because they were giving them away because of the oil embargo. I was not fond of that car as it always had "drivability" issues. I should have bought the Ambassador!
@desertmodern7638
@desertmodern7638 Жыл бұрын
I've owned two GM clamshells, including a 1973 Caprice Estate which was a delight to drive and utterly reliable, with never an issue with the many power assists, including the tailgate. Mine was unfortunately equipped with the 400-2, which wasn't very enthusiastic. The optional 454-4, or even the prior year 402-4, would have been a much better fit. The perforated vinyl seats were breathable and supportive, but I believe the same as found in the Impala wagon. The Ambassador does look infinitely more plush.
@zbillster
@zbillster Жыл бұрын
I remember reading Consumer Reports back in the 1970s and in full-size comparos Ambassadors came in last because they're really midsized. I was also watching an old Mission Impossible episode and was shocked to see an Ambassador limo. The squared off rear roofline gives the AMC the practicality nod in this one for cargo.
@steveschmitt2849
@steveschmitt2849 Жыл бұрын
My dad was a real carguy when it came to knowledge of ride, handling and features and we had a new 1971 Ambassador Wagon with the 401. That was the car I learned to drive on ( it was a rocket ship). My father then traded it in for a 1975 Chevrolet Caprice Estate Wagon with the 454. You got the features right for sure, the AMC was more nimble but not as smooth, where the Chevy was a luxury ride but a sloth, fyi: having 273 rear end gears didn't help. Seating was terific and the extra storage behind the third row was very useful on trips and fortunately we had no problems with the clam shell tailgate. Thanks for bringing back a bit of my younger days.
@Andyface79
@Andyface79 Жыл бұрын
Props to showing a big AMC they always fascinated me because they were so rare. I grew up in the 80s and 90s and there were plenty of 70s big three stuff around, but the only big AMC I saw was a Matador that I glimpsed in a parking lot at night. And I lived in Wichita Kansas, which had more American iron than the coasts at that point.
@northcackalacky4694
@northcackalacky4694 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 69 ambassador 4 door for a hundred $ in 1982? It's still my favorite car I've owned! 6 cylinder, drove perfectly, and I could blast through 2 feet of snow on any given day!! No frills, fantastic car!
@AMStationEngineer
@AMStationEngineer Жыл бұрын
IMHO, the 1969 Ambassador wagons were among the most beauiful station-wagon models offered by any domestic manufacturer of that era. My family co-owned an AMC Dealership, with Friday mornings being our K.A.T. (Kenosha Auto Transport) delivery time, out of the Norristown (Philly Zone) freight yard. It was the very best time to be a kid (all the NEW CAR SMELL a 13 y/o's lungs could handle!!)....
@70sleftover
@70sleftover Жыл бұрын
That Ambassador wagon I can't recall seeing much of, so despite all those selling points that, in this 2023 context, seem so convincing, AMC just didn't have the appeal in the full-size market no matter how much better they actually were. The Chevy and Ford wagons definitely continued to win the popularity contest, by far. Chrysler wagons in my memory - and yes, I'm relying only on childhood memory - were a distant third (they seemed to me to be even more imposing size-wise than any GM or Ford). Then again, my neighborhood seemed to be a world of mid-size vehicles in many driveways, as really, a lot of families could get away with a more manageable Malibu or Torino or equivalent, and in '73, they were guzzling gas at only a slightly reduced rate than all the full-size wagons, much to the chagrin of a lot of U.S. drivers who faced the sudden doubling of the cost of a gallon of gas that same year.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
I concur.
@stevekaminski5327
@stevekaminski5327 Жыл бұрын
I would have chosen the Ambassador too. I worked for a Pontiac - AMC dealer back then and thought that they were very underrated. I owned a couple of them and was very happy with them.
@toddwetmore551
@toddwetmore551 Жыл бұрын
My parents bought a new 73 Caprice Estate wagon. Our first car with a/c and power windows and locks. That 3rd seat was so hot in the summer. You would freeze in the front seat and roast in the back!! The car was a lemon from day one. I remember we picked it up early evening and the very next day we had it in for service!
@dval59valletta79
@dval59valletta79 Жыл бұрын
In 1977, I bought a 1971 Ambassador wagon. I needed a wagon for work, and the car lot had two, a 1971 Pontiac, or the AMC. The Poncho had the valves replaced on one side, so I was a little leery. I ended up getting the AMC even tho the dealer didn't really wanted to sell it as he was using it. Car had a 360 w/ 4bbl. Went like hell
@winthropthurlow3020
@winthropthurlow3020 Жыл бұрын
My folks had a '73 Buick Estate Wagon. The clambshell rear door was the coolest feature and it also had the advantage of allowing you to pull right up to a loading dock without having to make room for the opened rear door. The front facing rear seat was also nice, but you had to be a small, strong and flexible child to access that space. Once in, you were faced with a shallow foot well, meaning your knees were at your chest for the duration.
@dmandman9
@dmandman9 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the 1973 Ambassador and Matador were some of the nicest looking of the AMC products.
@peter13874
@peter13874 Жыл бұрын
AMC all the way, especially for towing and hauling. More of a work horse drive train with the 360 or 401, and the torque flight, and still enough comfort and a little luxury to keep the family happy on road trips. Love the horizontal speedo with the wood grain, I would love to see that make a comeback somehow.
@ragnaroni
@ragnaroni Жыл бұрын
I really love the old American station wagons, they have so much charm to them! Funnily enough, I associate them with christmas movies.
@randybourdon2791
@randybourdon2791 Жыл бұрын
Hands down, the Ambassador wagon would be my choice. Great looking car.
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 Жыл бұрын
My Dad would’ve picked the AMC since he would not have been very trusting of what he saw then as a complicated and finicky tailgate mechanism in the GM wagons. Riding forward or backward in the rear proved to be of no consequence to me when I rode in my friends’ station wagons back in the day. Dad bought the ‘66 Valiant wagon, and that’s the experience we had with domestic wagons. Here in Hawai’i with small parking stalls, a compact car was the thing to have. My cousin had a 1974 Belair wagon here, and that was a pain to park.
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 Жыл бұрын
We never had a bit of trouble with those tailgates and windows.
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickflohe7427 Indeed, Dad WAS surprised that the electric tailgate window on the ‘66 Valiant survived our 10 years of ownership without a hiccup. Here in Hawai’i, full-sized vehicles were…and are…a true pain to park. Our roads and parking stalls are smaller than mainland ones. I was happy to see Adam “rescue” that brown, full-sized Marquis 4-door a year or so ago. That car was lovely and needed room to stretch its legs. It had no opportunity to do so on O’ahu.
@marko7843
@marko7843 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen one of these AMC's in the wild, but I applaud that unique "sweep" treatment of the wood grain vinyl... Very nice idea.
@DanEBoyd
@DanEBoyd Жыл бұрын
That's one nice AMC wagon! Can't believe they still had vent windows in '73 though. Also the Chevy Titan 90 and GMC Astro 95 semi tractors had that C3-style inverted radio bay.
@mpetersen6
@mpetersen6 Жыл бұрын
I wish everybody still had vent windows.
@MAGA-kw3ol
@MAGA-kw3ol Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 70s and one of my friends had a AMC Hornet with the straight 6 engine, we made fun of it all the time, but in truth it was the most dependable practical car any of us had. While I was patching rust holes in my mustang my friends Hornet had no rust and just kept going through all the abuse we gave it
@northwoodsguy1538
@northwoodsguy1538 Жыл бұрын
I didn't think anything rotted out worse than a AMC Hornet. We had 74 that Dad ordered brand new in Oct of 1973 at the start of the oil embargo and the end of 35¢ / gallon gas. Took delivery just before Christmas of 73. By the summer of 1976 it already had holes rusted in the front fenders.🤮
@middleclassretiree
@middleclassretiree Жыл бұрын
Love seeing the wagons, would like to see a full comparison of the big 3 wagons and the big 3 mid sized wagons that’s more what I think of when looking at the AMC wagons
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@Al-thecarhistorian
@Al-thecarhistorian Жыл бұрын
What's interesting is that the Matador wagon was identical in dimensions to the Ambassador from the firewall back.
@cybair9341
@cybair9341 Жыл бұрын
The pull-down tailgate of the Ambassador is more practical than the Chevy's clamshell design in that once the tailgate is down, it increases the length of the cargo area and makes it possible to support longer loads like, for example, lumber or a small snowmobile. I really miss that capability in my Saturn wagon. As far as I know, today's SUV's are all hatchbacks. (except for the Aztec) 😁
@nlpnt
@nlpnt Жыл бұрын
AMC's best selling wagon was the Hornet Sportabout, in a segment the Big 3 had abandoned (some years half of all Hornets sold were Sportabouts). The Ambassador's most direct GM competition was the Olds Cutlass Cruiser or Buick Skylark wagon, mid-size but plush. Chevy for whatever reason gave the Caprice wagon an Impala-level interior, Caprice sedans and coupes were much more luxurious.
@70sleftover
@70sleftover Жыл бұрын
I agree, AMC Hornets (talk about chunky little cars!) were way more common when I was growing up in the 1970s than any Matador or Ambassador.
@lancegillespie827
@lancegillespie827 Жыл бұрын
My parents from the time I was born always owned an AMC product, starting with a 64 Rambler 770 Classic wagon, 75 Matador 4dr sedan and finally a 77 Hornet DL wagon w\304 V8. They also owned a 73 Caprice Estate wagon w\454, what I learned to parallel park in. It was terrible on gas about 10mpg on the highway. I would have to agree with you, I'd pick the AMC over the Chevy any day. AMC in my opinion was always a very under rated car company, a shame because they really made some great cars.
@lasuvidaboy
@lasuvidaboy Жыл бұрын
The AMC was a great looking wagon. They were very rare where I grew up in Pasadena, CA in the 1970s. We had 1968 and later a 1973 Chrysler Town & Country which was a beast! 😂
@gregsullivan8065
@gregsullivan8065 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I like the look and performance of the AMC, but I was a Chevy kid growing up, and always liked the wraparound glass on the Caprice wagons. Shame they didn’t give the wagon the dual exhaust for the 454ci, since it really needed the extra 30hp.
@patrickflohe7427
@patrickflohe7427 Жыл бұрын
-Definitely easy to add though.
@bozodog428
@bozodog428 Жыл бұрын
Rear end collision damage on the Caprice must have been a fun repair.
@petestaint8312
@petestaint8312 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! 😮
@P00katube
@P00katube Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the rust on the rear bottom sheet metal section after water was accumulated when the rear tailgate disappeared during heavy rainstorms.
@MrSloika
@MrSloika Жыл бұрын
@@P00katube I was gonna say this. You didn't need to get hit from behind to have that tailgate become a nightmare.
@cg9612
@cg9612 Жыл бұрын
We had the Chevy in all green, no fake wood paneling. The green was the shade of Turtle Wax car polish. It was a great car.
@70sleftover
@70sleftover Жыл бұрын
In my neighborhood it seemed most new wagons were the plain but aero-looking Chevy Impalas, and only a few were fancier wood-paneled Estate versions. The interiors of Chevy Impalas in that '71-'76 era were really disappointing and I think shouted "Cheap!". (As a kid I couldn't stand all the "foreign-style" symbols on the dashboard knobs.) But that glass-into-the-roof/tailgate-down-into-the-floor electric tailgate operation was fascinating plus the rear sweep of curved side glass in all the GM full-size wagons seemed so modern - and sure was distinctive.
@richardc8333
@richardc8333 Жыл бұрын
My dad was co-owner of a Chevrolet dealership in 1973 where I spent countless hours as a kid when these were both sold. The AMC (Ford also) was walking distance from my dad’s dealership so I was able to see and drive some of these either right off the truck or as recent trade-in’s . The Chevy you show had few trim upgrades so I would argue wasn’t 100% apples to apples but the issue with the AMC was the fit and finish. Neither were awesome in this era, but the big three automakers were considered to have superior quality and fit and finish. No one can deny AMC had some design advantages in this era, think Javelin, but their quality held them back markedly. I remember a lady coming in with her AMC Ambassador and trading it for a GM model only a year old because the driver’s door kept falling off the hinges.
@DMETS519
@DMETS519 Жыл бұрын
Those Chevys were everywhere. I'd vote for the AMC because of it's uniqueness. But it holds up pretty well against the Chevy in other categories anyway.
@LakeNipissing
@LakeNipissing Жыл бұрын
I have seen lots of the Kingswood and Safari station wagons with the clamshell rear tailgate, but the Ambassador station wagon seems to be a rarity here; but I also agree with Adam, it has a nicer interior, and performance would likely be lively.
@johnmaki3046
@johnmaki3046 Жыл бұрын
The clamshell tailgate was cool, though!
@Flies2FLL
@Flies2FLL Жыл бұрын
Among pilots back in the 1980's there was a slogan: "If there is an Ambassador in the parking lot, you can bet the FAA is around". The Federal Government bought thousands of these dowdy but reliable cars for the use of government personnel. FAA inspectors show up unannounced at airports and when a plane pulls up, they do a "ramp check", or check all the documents of the people flying the aircraft. Most government agencies prefered Chrysler products; The FAA has traditionally been the "low man on the pole" and wound up with these cars. Great video!
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
In the past I have urged Adam to do a 'fleet sales vs personal sales' video. So far we have not seen it.
@elliotdryden7560
@elliotdryden7560 Жыл бұрын
Naturally the AMC wagon has the obligatory Midland 23ch CB radio under the dash too. Both my parent's Buicks had the same exact radios. Glad they weren't weird. (for that reason at any rate. )
@kalebaldwin5398
@kalebaldwin5398 Жыл бұрын
AMC, hands down, and I’m a GM guy. Great power train with that 401/Torqueflite combo, and it’s just so much cooler. I’m not a big fan of the GM clamshell wagons. For full size Chevy wagons, I much prefer the pre-clamshell Kingswood Estate.
@DanT271
@DanT271 Жыл бұрын
Woodgrain speedo is kinda wild but the AMC is a sharp looking wagon!
@harperq8559
@harperq8559 Жыл бұрын
Oh, the Ambassador for sure! Excellent, thanks Adam!
@ralphabreu5022
@ralphabreu5022 Жыл бұрын
I like the Caprice estate The disappearing tailgate is what sells me I don't care for the coffin look...
@robleyking3451
@robleyking3451 Жыл бұрын
I drove my Aunt’s Ambassador Brougham from Seattle to San Diego and back. It was very uncomfortable. I’m 6’1 and the top of the seat angled forward right at shoulder level, making me slouch a bit. After hours of driving, I couldn’t wait to get out of the thing. But you’re right about power and handling. That 360 could really get up and go.
@HondaCTTrailForSale
@HondaCTTrailForSale Жыл бұрын
Definitely the AMC! My Uncle had a 1969 AMC Rebel wagon with the 290 V8 that was his daily driver from 1969 until 1994 and I always remember what great looking clean lines the car had compared to my parents 1976 Gran Torino Wagon which seemed huge in comparison…My mother had driven the Rebel on several occasions and always commented on how much better it handled than her Torino and how much “peppier” it was..than the larger 351 in the Torino….although only about 140Hp……vs the 290’s 200Hp… Thanks again for another great comparison of 2 cars from a bygone era!!!
@jasonrodgers9063
@jasonrodgers9063 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact- The AMC Ambassador was the first car to come with A/C as standard equipment! Hard to believe nowadays that ANY car wouldn't have A/C as standard equipment. I think the first year was 1969.
@markclark1654
@markclark1654 Жыл бұрын
The Ambassador Brougham was awesome! I loved riding in ours, but I didn't enjoy driving it 4 years later. Land yacht feel and easy to steer into trouble for a young driver. My dad ordered it new, shipped to our new home in KY, and got a job selling them when he picked it up! Great car and wonderful memories.
@cowtowncustoms2110
@cowtowncustoms2110 Жыл бұрын
I had a 66 Rambler American Wagon with chrome slotted wheels in 1973. My Dad traded in a 1967 Caprice wagon with a 396 that was great for a new 1973 Kingswood wagon. Mine was a 6cyl with a 3 on the tree and I took my driving test in the "boat" 73 since it was an automatic. No problem!
@ValdezJu
@ValdezJu Жыл бұрын
We always had station wagons in our family.. a red 1957 Ford (3-on-the-tree).. I can still hear my mother grinding the gears and smelling that burning clutch.. next a 1961 Chevy 6 𝘢𝘶𝘵𝘰𝘮𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘤 and my favorite, a solid navy blue (no faux wood) 1967 Ford with a 289cui.
@steveoh9838
@steveoh9838 Жыл бұрын
Cool content. The Olds Vista Cruiser would be a cool car to review as well. Thanks Adam!
@OLDS98
@OLDS98 Жыл бұрын
It is interesting how rich the AMC wagon appears on the interior. You can see the Jeep influence coming through as well. AMC always made do with less and had some interesting efforts. It is interesting we live and suv/crossover world now. They are the station wagons of today. I do not know why GM did not dress up its wagons interiors. They did not happen until Roadmaster Limited wagon in the 1990's and Caprice Classic wagon in the 1990's. I would take a 1981 Pontiac Bonneville Safari or a 1985-1986 Pontiac Parisienne Safari and a Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser 1980-1990 wagon with dual power seats and a few other features. Thank you Adam.
@jamesmisener3006
@jamesmisener3006 Жыл бұрын
The AMC for comfort and power. The radio deck on the slide out aftermarket bracket will take care of noise! I had that same bracket in my 72 1200 Datsun that I had to park underground in those days in the city. Cheers 🇨🇦
@waynejohnson1304
@waynejohnson1304 Жыл бұрын
They were both very good cars that did what they were designed to do. I've never ridden in an Ambassador wagon but, I have ridden in the sedan. AMC was serious when it advertised that they gave it the "red carpet ride". They rode every bit as well as the Cadillacs and Lincolns of the day. The Caprice rode nicely too. It also had more interior room. Since I would take a car with more room, I guess I would have bought the Caprice Estate Wagon. Ambassadors came standard with A/C. It was an option on Caprice. If I had to choose between an un-air-conditioned car though and one with A/C, I'd have gone with the Ambassador.
@markaustin4370
@markaustin4370 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing wagons!!!! So cool
@DSP1968
@DSP1968 Жыл бұрын
Adam, a very fair comparison. And like you, I'd choose the Ambassador over the Caprice, which I find just to inefficiently huge, with questionable overuse of cheap interior materials.
@518873
@518873 Жыл бұрын
Great video of America cars from the 70s. Bill from the UK 🇬🇧
@cellpat2686
@cellpat2686 Жыл бұрын
Looking back today, the AMC wagon is far better in many ways, but in the early 1970s GM dominated that market with all the different models of wagons available. There was Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Chevrolet versions available to suit people's moods. Then there was the Ford and Chrysler wagons who were also very stylish looking vehicles too. It was a different story in 1973 than it is today.
@hughjass1044
@hughjass1044 Жыл бұрын
That AMC wagon is gorgeous!
@dannyg6592
@dannyg6592 Жыл бұрын
I remember driving a 1973 Caprice Wagon when I was a teen and it was a boat. Barely fit in the lane, I recall. But it was incredibly spacious, silent and comfortable. The AMC compares in size to a GM mid-size wagon, not a Caprice wagon.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@votingcitizen
@votingcitizen Жыл бұрын
We always had wagons - big family - and it was choice to get to ride in the 'way back'. Well out of reach of Mom. I remember a Pontiac but the others are lost in the seas of memory. Having said that, I would most definitely go for the Caprice. Irrational, probably but I had a 76 Caprice and it was a solid sedan - albeit a gross polluting smoker by the time I bought it for $300!
@tbm3fan913
@tbm3fan913 6 ай бұрын
Now I bought a 72 Ambassador Brougham wagon back in March.A great survivor which just needs me to go through all the mechanical systems one by one. It came with the 360-2V engine and it has a surprising amount of pickup off the line for it's size. Way better than the 360-2V in my 73 Polara. Have to admit it is really a fun car to drive and a car I never paid attention to back in the day much less ever saw one.
@BillAlexander-cv6oj
@BillAlexander-cv6oj Жыл бұрын
That AMC was a nice looking Wagon, The only Wagon I ever Owned was a 1970 Biscayne 6 pass, V8 Auto No Air, was a nice wagon but no frills other than PS...Standard Interior, with carpets etc..Plain Jane Chevy at best.....
@debrastarke3996
@debrastarke3996 Жыл бұрын
The problem with GM clamshells was the rear window water drain would get clogged causing leaks or freeze ups in the winter, sometimes leaking water into the spare tire well. If the drain in the well was clogged it would rust an rot away causing water, dirt and salt to fly up on the electric motor and cable drive for the rear window, especially if there was no spare tire. I remember back in the 80’s and 90’s you would see these wagons rusted out in the rear and the spare tire hanging out. Also, on the other side, the bottom of the saddle tank for the gas lacked protection from salt and dirt and would rust and leak fuel. These were the first two things you looked for when buying used wagons. That and the sagging leaf springs that air shocks would fix. All in all these were unique and stylish wagons, nothings been done like them since
@Olds_Pwr
@Olds_Pwr Жыл бұрын
To me, the crossover and SUV are a station wagon, just lifted higher for the heavier weight people have put on over the past 50 years.
@kevinlynch1227
@kevinlynch1227 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE the Caprice Estate. I own one today'. A mint 76 Chevy CAPRICE wagon. It is my pride and joy and never sees rain or bad weather... So many thumbs up on the road and often. people approach, if im in a parking lot... Everyone has their station wagon Fun Story!!!! Lol Everything new or rebuilt under the hood too. New tires and exhaust... Heavily waxed and beautiful interior.... Maroon/wood..Red interior, delux rubber bumpers/strips, clock. AC, 400 4bbl, roof rack. power locks cruise.. 3 forward seats with the 2nd row split (yes, nice nice fearure) Power tailgate door and rear window... works like new from the key switch which has 7 positions including a vertical neutrsl position (depending what you want to open or close.. Window, Gate. Or Both simultaneously) also has 2 switches on the dash for interior operation of the tailgate.. Window works any time.. but for the tailgate door to operate the gear shift selector MUST be in Park!!! T H A N K S for this Awesmoe Video Sir!! Later!!!❤
@aca2983
@aca2983 Жыл бұрын
I was young but alive in this time and I don't remember any AMC wagons at all in the 70's/80's except Hornets, then later Concords and Eagles. In my area the Chevys and Fords were very very popular. I do remember one family that had a B body Mopar, like a Fury or Coronet or something. Not many bigger Mopar wagons around, but I guess the Aspen/Volare did quite well and there were plenty of those later in the 70's.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
I have always been interested in cars. I remember all kinds of wagons on the roads in the 1970s and 80s but have no recollection of any AMC wagons other than the Hornet.
@Bdub1952
@Bdub1952 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the '73 Gran Torino Wagon with the 400 in the mix. Only because I miss mine.
@petestaint8312
@petestaint8312 Жыл бұрын
Loved AMC cars of this period! Thanks for posting. 👍
@markbehr88
@markbehr88 Жыл бұрын
One thing you forgot to mention is that the third row seat passengers have the rear diff encroaching into the floorpan. I was amazed to see that when I bought my 74 Custom Cruiser. I think Ford had the best wagon back then.
@rafaelfiallo4123
@rafaelfiallo4123 Жыл бұрын
But 2 adults can still sit in the clamshell 3rd row, the Ford 3rd row is useless unless you're 4 years old. I've had 2 clamshells and a Colony Park and the GM wagon is the better wagon in my opinion.
@markbehr88
@markbehr88 Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelfiallo4123 I’ve had two full size adults in the third row of my 74 Country Squire and I’ve sat in it myself with a friend driving and I’m not small by any means. I still have my 74 Olds Custom Cruiser and the Squire plus a 78 Colony Park. I say the Fords are better and sales reflected that too by a long way. Don’t get me wrong. I love the Olds. I just don’t think having a large intrusion of the differential into the floorpan was a good design. But I love the clamshell idea.
@rafaelfiallo4123
@rafaelfiallo4123 Жыл бұрын
@@markbehr88 I would have to see it to believe it. I had a 76 Colony Park and I'm no giant and I tried to sit in that little tiny seat and I could barely get one ass cheek on it, 2 adults back there would have to be really good friends.... you notice the would only show kids back there in any of the advertisements.
@markbehr88
@markbehr88 Жыл бұрын
@@rafaelfiallo4123 they were decent sized Husband and Wife.
@steven.l.patterson
@steven.l.patterson Жыл бұрын
I’d have picked a 1973 Volvo 145 wagon! I had a ‘69 and it was very practical - the flat floor & upright back tailgate gave you a lot of storage space.
@NorlandBoxcar
@NorlandBoxcar Жыл бұрын
The AMC is nice to be sure. The reality is that I don't think I ever saw one of these growing up. They must have been super rare. But then again, I grew up in a GM town. Nice video!
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
Up here in Ontario, I was very interested in cars as a kid in the 1970s. I have NO memories of a ever seeing an Ambassador or Matador wagon though the little Sportabout was quite popular. Big 3 wagons were everywhere.
@NorlandBoxcar
@NorlandBoxcar Жыл бұрын
@@rightlanehog3151 Yes true..
@donk499
@donk499 Жыл бұрын
I owned a 73 Caprice coupe. I have noticed that there were so many minor variations on the interior decor that occured in just this model year. The Caprice wagons and convertibles looked to have had the "Impala" level of interior decor pieces when compared to the interior in my coupe. Even my dash pad large applique was more "rich" than the ones found on the Caprice convertibles and wagons. I understand that owners of convertibles probably did not want the fabric materials used in my car because they might be damaged when wet. Nonetheless, it always appeared that the wagons and convertibles got "Impala" interiors when compared to my car. And yes, the clam shell wagons seemed to have as many disadvantages as advantages, a bit of an expensive "gimmick".
@Drmcclung
@Drmcclung Жыл бұрын
I'd have picked the AMC too. But full disclosure, that's my inner AMC and 401 fanaticism 😂 - That said, Matador wagons are a blast to drive nothing else in the big wagon era even compared. Think of it as an SHO Taurus wagon which sadly never existed, would have been a hell of a car
@domenicogaldo6065
@domenicogaldo6065 Жыл бұрын
between the two I´d pick The Ambassador. Another great review, thanks.
@daviddill5227
@daviddill5227 Жыл бұрын
My mom had a 73 Pontiac Catalina Safari wagon. We never had any problems with the clam shell rear end. I thought it was a great idea, although the opening and closing of each section they would slow up some (but not to the point if being a problem) over time
@tmiklos4
@tmiklos4 Жыл бұрын
We had a 72 Chevy wagon, and 2 different 76s Chevy wagons, they were great cars. One had the manual rear door like the one in the video. Two had the full power rear doors. All three were 100% trouble free.. we bought each of them used with about 50 k miles. Each made it to around 150 k before we got rid of them. The biggest problem with those cars was rust, living in the rust belt. All three still ran well but the the bodies gave up
@dicarlo57
@dicarlo57 2 ай бұрын
Cleveland Ohio used'73 Ambassador wagons. 401s-in safety green- and kept them in service for years which speaks volumes about the durability and build quality. When new to many equated them with Ramblers.....
@danheiser6458
@danheiser6458 Жыл бұрын
AMC integrated the climate controls for 1972, the wood speedometer was also 1972. The back left of the rear had a locking box with the spare tire on the right.
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