Battle Of The Bait Molds!! Cast Aluminum vs Stone vs CNC Aluminum

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World's Worst Fishing

World's Worst Fishing

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@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Stay tuned for the end where we BURN our plastic and one the molds goes bye bye!
@tumbleweedoutdoors1776
@tumbleweedoutdoors1776 4 жыл бұрын
I wish I could afford plastisol :( I can’t afford it so I do remelts only so I am extremely limited on my color choices
@d.moutdoors4377
@d.moutdoors4377 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah
@marctheriault
@marctheriault 4 жыл бұрын
@@tumbleweedoutdoors1776, $35-40 bucks for a bottle and shipping can make a lot of baits.
@marctheriault
@marctheriault 4 жыл бұрын
A flat screwdriver to help twist is probably the purpose of the slot with the stone mold.
@tumbleweedoutdoors1776
@tumbleweedoutdoors1776 4 жыл бұрын
@@marctheriault I know I just barely have any money and I’m in the process of making a swim bait mold with a fellow bait maker so I’m saving my money to get the final product turned into an aluminum mold
@Grahamwilde20
@Grahamwilde20 4 жыл бұрын
You Won’t believe what happen my teacher said that I can do a presentation of making baits for entrepreneurship unit because I sell them and she wanted me to show the classes how I made money off a hobby
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Hope it went well
@4kBrady18
@4kBrady18 3 жыл бұрын
My stone works perfectly fine. You simply just didn’t prep them correctly. I’m sorry but I can’t afford a $150 mold so I have to use my $20 ones
@Thegolfkid2030
@Thegolfkid2030 4 ай бұрын
Yes finally someone who is realistic
@kbody_slade
@kbody_slade 4 жыл бұрын
I started making baits today and I owe all the fun to you, I only burnt myself twice
@rdo6566
@rdo6566 4 жыл бұрын
I think they all have there uses. If you are making and selling then CNC is likely worth the investment. If you are doing it for yourself to fish with and maybe give a few away then CNC is not going to catch you any more fish than a properly poured bait from a cast or stone mold. There has been tons of fish caught on baits from Do-It wast molds. We are making baits to catch to a fish not curing cancer. I think sometime we lose sight of that aspect when dumping $200 (off the shelf) to $600 (custom) on CNC molds when you can get custom stone made for normally less than $100 from companies like Bug Molds on eBay.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching...what are your favorite type of molds??
@jacobcarter9242
@jacobcarter9242 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t do any my self but I think the open pour look the best
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobcarter9242 yeah hand pour is king 👑
@jacobcarter9242
@jacobcarter9242 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing yeah and I’m not 100% sure but it looks like you can do a lot more designs with a open pour
@dirtyfisherman9188
@dirtyfisherman9188 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man how can I get intouch for some baits?
@01Brever
@01Brever 4 жыл бұрын
Angling AI can’t be beat IMO. Glad you did this video because I was wondering how the stone molds work. Now I know they’re trash! Lol
@jaakkoteppo8376
@jaakkoteppo8376 4 жыл бұрын
I have cast quite a lot of baits with those baitmold.com 'stone' molds. They have to be brushed with worm oil every second or third cast, then there will no sticking issues. The first casting with a brand new mold is always a little tricky even if properly oiled. The biggest number of castings per mold I've done is roughly 500 and there has not been any visible signs of the mold being disintegrated but I don't suppose they will last forever. They are an inexpensive choice when making baits for yourself, but not that great for any bigger production obviously. Anyway, I'm more than satisfied with the molds, comparing the price vs. the result and also the fact that they have molds for many of the catchiest baits. If I could get the exact same molds in cnc-milled aluminum, I would not hesitate buying them.
@ruffnut743
@ruffnut743 4 жыл бұрын
i use them stone molds as well i use silicone spray it works very well
@artfanatic405
@artfanatic405 4 жыл бұрын
This video was so helpful. Thank you. I have been wondering the difference between each of these for so long
@gpharned
@gpharned 4 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU CHRIS! You have taught me so well and saved me $$! I first started with pouring Do-it lead molds, excellent products. So naturally went with Do-it soft plastic molds. They worked OK. Lots of denting and learning curves. Do-it injector is really a problem for newbies. Dangerous by blowing the tip off (no pins) . I honestly would never recommend that injector. I purchased a AI mold thanks to you and what a difference, night and day. Now I am building my collection of quality molds. I am no Pro but I recommend waiting until you can afford a quality CNC mold from a reputable maker. I borrowed a stone mold from a friend and with proper oiling (I actually use WD-40 ) it pours very well, especially for less than a $20 price, but it does have limitations such as over heating and needing oiled every few uses.
@hashimotoconcepts
@hashimotoconcepts 4 жыл бұрын
Great information, especially for someone who is new to soft plastics. I can see how they may think that starting off with the cost effective mold would be the best option however the cost is made up in replacements from damaged molds. hope this saves someone money in the long run.
@larrycorley2470
@larrycorley2470 4 жыл бұрын
Good video! It was great to see the finish difference between the molds. I have been using the “stone” molds for 2 years I do have to oil often and over oiling can create problems with swim bait tails and creature bait flaps but over all I have figured out a technic to get pretty good baits ever time. All that being said I don’t sell my baits I got into it to make what I want for tournament fishing. But after seeing the finish difference I might buy one of the CNC molds just to compare how much it affects the color tones I make might be a big difference and a game changer ! Again great video!!!👍
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 👍
@joeschlabotnik2401
@joeschlabotnik2401 4 ай бұрын
I started making my own lures recently. I did not want to invest a lot of money so I went with stone molds first. Have to say they work great! Just have to keep them oiled up. I use oil butter spray and also let the molds cool down if I am making a lot of lures as they tend to stick for some reason. I have also made my own molds and they came out okay. Not perfect but I am catching bass on them all which is really cool
@dennishodson990
@dennishodson990 4 жыл бұрын
In both of your stone mold pours, I noticed trash in the tail that didn't pour correctly. Look back in your video. I have made several Alumilite Vac 50 molds of baits that I should not name and had to work on to get a functional bait. I do this because I choose to spend $$ on other toys. I have two stone molds and three more on the way. I really don't have a problem with them. The Bass and Crappie sure don't. Of course, I don't sell these and have to have the $$$ look. Still love you're channel and get notifications of every one!
@MeMyselfandEyeSeeYou
@MeMyselfandEyeSeeYou 3 жыл бұрын
As an entry level, soon to be soft plastic lure maker, I feel so prepared thanks to you. I've watched about 70% of your videos and am still going.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, please share the channel with all your friends
@MeMyselfandEyeSeeYou
@MeMyselfandEyeSeeYou 3 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing I think my mother-in-law is the only person left and she's next. :D
@albow4oops5
@albow4oops5 4 жыл бұрын
Just starting out and I use stone.. because it's cheap. I've shot three styles of bait and I get decent results. Mine are off of Amazon, they have toggle pins and seal fine. Two have stone pins, one has steel. While I agree that cnc must be better, I have had no issues with mine. I preheat mine on a heating pad and have fewer issues with differential cooling dents. Oil and plastic durometer have a big effect on the shine of the end bait. I will be getting cnc molds, but for now the stone molds work really well. I shoot stick baits, a punch style craw and a very complex creature bait with a core shot pin. The only release problem I have is on the rear flappers of the complex creature, but if I oil every third injection it's fine. None of this is to disagree with you, you clearly have more experience and knowledge than I do. Your channel is why I inject/ pour baits, marling taught me to make wooden baits. You both are great resources. Thank you
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you found a way to have success! Thanks for watching my channel
@MrCami2
@MrCami2 4 жыл бұрын
Your description about stone molds is the most realistic one that I found till now
@fabulous7567
@fabulous7567 4 жыл бұрын
Really like the comparison of different materials for mould making. CNC looks to be the clear winner all around even though the cost is at a premium.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
You always get what you pay for in life
@greatwhitesfishingadventur2273
@greatwhitesfishingadventur2273 4 жыл бұрын
The old additive : You get what You Pay for !!! CNC Aluminium, will always be the BEST !!! I would suggest you save the hard earned, and start off with one CNC Mould ...
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Agree all the way
@macprince5667
@macprince5667 4 жыл бұрын
I believe the word you want is adage
@danieleatherly1135
@danieleatherly1135 4 жыл бұрын
Chris in the pst I have used do it molds they are ok but your right the finish is full but I never used stone molds was thinking about trying them but thanks to you I will not be wasting my money on them!!!! Thank you Chris!!!!
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@ZacksRealAdventures
@ZacksRealAdventures 5 ай бұрын
Whoa, another drummer who loves fishing and making baits. Cool stuff man.
@dakotak.6956
@dakotak.6956 4 жыл бұрын
could you heat finish/polish the do it swimbaits? Just an idea idk if it would work
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
A heat set would work somewhat
@lakingz_80
@lakingz_80 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Jones.. Got a question...Total nube here to making baits .. Molds...Are stone molds one in the same with resin molds? Can't find anything that tells me different..
@johncox5681
@johncox5681 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Teach. I have a stone mold from Best_nj on amazon. It is a 1 cavity mold that pours from the top. It is a 4" craw mold and it pours perfectly. It also does a great laminate. I don't use worm oil though, it is too expensive. I just use the cheap spray cooking oil. It also makes the bait shine. But mostly I use cnc aluminum molds because you are absolutely right, They are the best. Thanks for the video, it was good to see the differences for people just starting out.
@markchase9299
@markchase9299 4 жыл бұрын
I have a few of those stone molds. I use mold release spray you can get at any hardware store. Works 100% better than the oil. They come out of the mold very easy. I will not buy anymore of those because the aluminum ones are alot easier for sure. Thanks for the videos Chris.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've heard oil works well and cooking spray..I def didn't have much luck with that swimbait lol
@markchase9299
@markchase9299 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing i guess thats how we learn lol. Still was fun to watch.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
@@markchase9299 I will modify my casted aluminum molds for better performance, but I most likely will not ever try a stone mold again.
@markchase9299
@markchase9299 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing i don't use mine anymore either. I have one of the sand cast too. Was my first one to get my feet wet. Can't wait to see what you do with it.
@kevinclingaman6277
@kevinclingaman6277 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, Can you explain the heating up of the molds? Seems I’ve seen the molds on a griddle/hot plate type item, but what is the purpose, etc. Thanks.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
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@iwantosavemoney
@iwantosavemoney 11 ай бұрын
I bought my first sinker molds a wail back for a few 100 dollars and some jig molds and they where do it molds and what I do is pour in one pour enough to pay for the mold it’s self but I guess with plastic molds that probably not possible or productive because you don’t want a bunch of the same stuff like you would with weights and jig heads I love having bulk items that actually save me money. But I think am getting more into the hobby and trading saving money for having the versatile to change colors and the add actives and truly make a different bait in the same mold is awesome.
@Rodbuilder109
@Rodbuilder109 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of getting into making some baits and this video helped me a lot. Thank you for all of your content on this topic. Love to see all the ways to get the baits colors.
@slivers4007
@slivers4007 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you get what you pay for but......Some just can't afford $200.00-$300.00 molds. Most have to "buy" their molds? Stone molds can and do work for what they were intended for and for many will work fine (a quick spray of silicon works great and a wide blade screwdriver vs a butter knife to open). Do-It cast aluminum molds work great for what they were intended for (a quick spray of high temp paint, clean none mold surfaces voila gloss baits).. By the way take a CNC molded and a Do-It sand cast molded bait put them in water and see what the difference is, the fish nor most will ever notice the difference? If one follow enough forums EVERY company seems to have problems with lumps, bumps, etc.(operator error)? And how about you take one of those fancy $250.00 ** molds out back and smack it with a hammer a few times and see how well it holds up? As far as instructions.....hmmmm never got any with any of my expensive "name" brand molds. Other than that great video.
@backyardhunter1036
@backyardhunter1036 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting all day for this video to drop
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Haha appreciate it
@AdhDad327
@AdhDad327 3 жыл бұрын
If you clear dip the lures from cast aluminum after injecting them, would that fix the rough finish issue and give a glossy smooth finish?
@paulsarris9638
@paulsarris9638 3 жыл бұрын
hey chris . great channel you have here . i have a question about denting . i use a cnc mold and i get to much denting for my liking . was wondering if there is a way to fix this issue ?
@nealkrueger6009
@nealkrueger6009 4 жыл бұрын
I jus watched your clip on moulds . ive got a question on who makes cnc moulds and what does a maker typically need to make a mould. I am looking to geta mould to cast my own Mann's. Mosquito Hawk type. Bait, simce the havent been made in years. I got to locate a mold and make my own. I am not going to pay 40.00 for a pack of 12 (when you can findthem on EBay.. Thanks for the entertaining vids.
@tarponspringsfishingclub
@tarponspringsfishingclub Жыл бұрын
Great video...Where do you purchase CNC molds? I want to make shad swim bait lures for salt waters Thank you.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing Жыл бұрын
Angling Ai molds
@zacharykeller7067
@zacharykeller7067 4 жыл бұрын
I have a bunch of the stone molds and I have never oiled them and always get great results i think they are worth the money just my opinion
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
You are definitely the exception, glad they are working well for you.
@MrCami2
@MrCami2 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing or perhaps you need a little bit training to use stone molds, for instance using a brush to oil them and not leaving oil inside tail cavity. To open them a flat screw driver gently twisted in the slot is the right procedure
@mylesgalle7025
@mylesgalle7025 4 жыл бұрын
With the stone molds I have noticed 3 things. 1it is a lot easer to open once you use it more. 2 it opens easer when it is a single Bait in the mold not 2 like that one. 3 I haven’t notices the molds melt or get damaged when you use it a lot, I have used the same mold of at least 250 runs and is not damaged. I think that it is ok to use the baits. I have never oiled the mold and it works good. It is a good material for entry level bait makers and they are cheep compared to the CNC miles aluminum. Good video though
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting... everyone else I have spoken to in my bait making career has had trouble with stone..to the point they abandoned them.
@MrCami2
@MrCami2 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing are you talking about home made Hobbysts or Producer?
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrCami2 nobody I know running real production uses stone, they hold heat too long to efficient and require lubrication often, every experienced home bait maker I know has moved on from stone molds to better things.
@Bunyips_Baits
@Bunyips_Baits 4 жыл бұрын
OH mate thankyou.. Ive been out of work since march because of the real C word and was going to get some of the stone molds but i think i will wait until i can get a nice cnc mold... this was very helpful in what to expect from each type of mold and what finish you get.. i made a open pour swim bait mold and they kept coming out looking floury...(rough surface on master) ive fixed that and now might try to make an injection mold but i can only make silicone molds will i get many shots out of a silicone mold or does the heat hurt them to..
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Silicone is great for hand pouring..I'd go with the cast aluminum over stone for Injection.
@Bunyips_Baits
@Bunyips_Baits 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing Thanks Chris i really do appreciate all the info you Feed us..
@BudBrown245
@BudBrown245 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to get some Angling ai molds because I like the finish the cnc gives the bait. I'm looking for 1 hand pour and 1-2 injection molds to start. What would you recommend? I'm thinking 5" open pour swimbait and 1 4 inch grub injection with something else. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for the content
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
great options..its up to you, whatever shapes you like.
@BudBrown245
@BudBrown245 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing I'm just a total beginner and want to make a good purchase for the first few molds that I get so I can start on the a good path with a lot of options. Struggling to decide what colors I should get to start etc. Been watching your videos for insight trying to get a good plan together
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
@@BudBrown245 I truly feel like my videos are the best resource for this hobby.
@mikew7108
@mikew7108 4 жыл бұрын
i started using the stone molds and they do stick unless you use worm oil on them. i used the knife to pry on mine when they stuck and snapped the side of the mold off. they are a good starting option for low cost. just got a batch cnc from angling ai. appreciate all of the content and inspiration from your videos!!
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man !
@kevinconrad7222
@kevinconrad7222 4 жыл бұрын
I Was just getting ready to buy my first mold, Thank you for this vid and saving me the money and most importantly the frustration of going with the stone that I was considering. I guess Like almost all things in life ya get what ya pay for. I’d rather save up and buy right and buy once. Instead of getting trash that falls apart. Merica
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
U always get what ya pay for!
@DanielRuiz-oq9cy
@DanielRuiz-oq9cy 26 күн бұрын
My first video in researching HOW to use cast Aluminum molds. No real interest in fishing lures, I'm on the path for creating childhood stuff, the Dime Store, vintage things. Yes, quite aware of the MATTEL direction. Thinking about a good budget for custom "toys." The info here is valuable to me....subscribing.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 25 күн бұрын
🙏🙏
@glennluteraan4434
@glennluteraan4434 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Chis, as lot of people cannot afford the CNC molds, and may want to get multiple cast "Do It" molds for the price of one CNC mold, I think you'd be doing a great service to both the budget and start-up bait makers by showing various methods to tune/tweak the cast molds, to improve the quality of the baits and make the most out of what may already be affordable or owned. The high temp paint sounded like a good trick. Polishing with a Dremel type tool would be another. Get the "B" rating up to a "B+ or A-". You could use that multiple swimbait mold (granted, a worm or stick bait mold would be easier) and to a different method in each cavity and show the results of each. I think that would be something a lot of people would appreciate. Thanks for this vid. It was valuable information.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I will definitely modify my cast aluminum mold and do a compare and contrast video
@fbisurveillancevan1635
@fbisurveillancevan1635 3 жыл бұрын
For the Corian/Stone molds, I use a simple silicone spray. It seems to work well.
@DrillerAA
@DrillerAA 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to take a dremmel tool with their polishing pads and apply rubbing compound, then polishing compound and actually get a much smoother finish from the Do-it molds. Also, if you limited your purchase of stone molds to simple worm patterns would they be more successful? Just asking.
@pakofishing
@pakofishing Жыл бұрын
Hello ;) I see you've used mica powder, what is the other pigment that you used (the liquid black) ? :)
@alexandrest-onge7381
@alexandrest-onge7381 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, someone know where i can find MULTI cavites Albies Snaxx mold and Slug-go one ? Freaking molds are hard to find ! Same with Jig Head molds... always multi cavities with differents weights. I'm looking for good production mold thanks in advance !
@stacyhunter7171
@stacyhunter7171 4 жыл бұрын
My 14yr old started making his own baits about a year and a half ago and has 4 or 5 of the stone molds. The first few pours were sticky but then it went away. He's never used any oil. They are only single and double cavity molds and he does use plastisol.
@FreedomFishing
@FreedomFishing Жыл бұрын
Have you had any stone molds from the baitmolds website that poured correctly? I just bought 2 from them (baits without a lot of detail) and need to check my drawers after seeing this video. 😯
@pondbossbaits4579
@pondbossbaits4579 4 жыл бұрын
Been using stone molds for years. Brush Vaseline every 2-3 injections and it works great. Cast molds look great too if you brush Vaseline on as well every few injections.
@bigkat650
@bigkat650 4 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you for this! I'll test my do-it molds and go from there... But I'm gonna avoid stone, that's for sure!
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely didn't have much success with stone
@kayakingwithkevin303
@kayakingwithkevin303 3 жыл бұрын
I sprayed my do it essential molds with high temp engine paint. Huge improvement over how they finish baits.
@timreardon9914
@timreardon9914 2 жыл бұрын
Did u spray entire mold or mask it off and then paint
@garyboyd9704
@garyboyd9704 4 жыл бұрын
I use Do-It cast molds because I didn't want to buy a $150 mold if it's not something I was going to enjoy doing. From my very limited experience, the worms really aren't a noticeable difference from the cnc molded worms, but where you really notice the difference is in the swim baits and creature baits...
@jeffflinton7540
@jeffflinton7540 4 жыл бұрын
that Bass tackle ribbon tail is one of my favorite molds to shoot it makes an armature hack like me look like i kinda know what im doing !!
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
It comes out perfect every single time
@kennethc5223
@kennethc5223 4 жыл бұрын
I used to have do it molds. Harder work to keep dents and bubbles out, cnc are easier. Great video.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@unicornbaits1622
@unicornbaits1622 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely love not having to learn about the corian type molds subparness on a griddle by trial myself. Very good thing to know. Definitely cnc ones for me. Great vid.
@michaelboettcher9384
@michaelboettcher9384 4 жыл бұрын
I use these rock molds all the time! Love them.spray a little pam on table then take a tooth brush dab pam and lightly put on oil with tooth brush every third pour! One swipe up and down with tooth brush and done! Easy peezy! Great molds!
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I am glad they work for you..I didn't have much success haha
@MrCami2
@MrCami2 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing because there is a training curve to pay
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrCami2 well of course..
@richardorta8960
@richardorta8960 7 ай бұрын
how would mixing styrafoam, packing peanuts, that foam they use for fake flowers work in the plastic?
@customrodsandbaits8620
@customrodsandbaits8620 4 жыл бұрын
Good info! It’s only Ai CNC molds for me! They are the best out there 👍
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Can't argue that
@DeeDee-vu5mi
@DeeDee-vu5mi 3 жыл бұрын
Likewise on the AI Molds. I have a 4" swimbait and the eyball mold....awesome. I do pour lead for some baits, therefore Do It Molds are used. I also have the Do IT 3" ripper so if your looking for a smoother finish bait, smoking the mold surfaces will help a lot.
@shaunmoeller3288
@shaunmoeller3288 4 жыл бұрын
I have a stone mold I use cooking spray on it and it works great
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I would imagine with a more basic shape I would have had much better luck, but the tails on these are a very tricky design to begin with.. they would undoubtedly have issues even in CNC from time to time.
@MrCami2
@MrCami2 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing try again ... with more modesty
@shaunmoeller3288
@shaunmoeller3288 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing do you have a Facebook page I would like to send a pic of a bait I made
@spacecat86
@spacecat86 3 жыл бұрын
ive noticed my stone molds start to degrade just a tiny bit after a year of moderate use. not all of them though, some have started to kind of erode around the edges but the cavities are still good. I didn't have as much trouble removing them as you did but I oiled them at the beginning however I don't re-oil them all that much....im using small baits though and they probably don't stick as badly. I think they are great for the price but nothing beats a fancy aluminum mold....anyone reading this feel free to buy me some :)
@crazycofalcon
@crazycofalcon 4 жыл бұрын
What about silicone molds for hand poured baits - go do they rate?
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Love em! Have many videos with silicone open pours
@str8dappin
@str8dappin 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Great content. Now you have to test the baits side by side at the lake. Some tips from my experience with stone molds: These molds as with many things have a break in period. They work much better over time. Oil is a no go for the same reasons you described in the video. Waiting too long to remove the baits causes me sticking difficulty. If you remove the baits while the mold still has a little heat in it makes it come out much nicer. Just like cookies on a baking sheet, they are more difficult to unstick while cold. Firmer blends of plastic also perform much better than softer blends.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Good points about the break in
@MrCami2
@MrCami2 4 жыл бұрын
Try to use a brush for oil. PAM works better.
@str8dappin
@str8dappin 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrCami2 I haven't tried that yet so it's definitely worth a shot. I kinda am thinking though that it will still have the same problem just slightly better. I think adding anything that will add volume of a liquid will continue to be a problem. Unless it can be forced out the vents.
@collinsworlddiscovery7639
@collinsworlddiscovery7639 2 жыл бұрын
What mold is better a benteto bug or a senko mold?
@AdventureAddict0
@AdventureAddict0 3 жыл бұрын
What brands are the CNC molds? I'd like to pick 1 up
@triqzyy8127
@triqzyy8127 3 жыл бұрын
Go on basstackle.com
@Forklunkerman
@Forklunkerman 3 жыл бұрын
where do you get your molds?
@howardchapman800
@howardchapman800 Жыл бұрын
Do you know of a company that makes custom aluminum or C&C molds?
@thedarkmittetoast7967
@thedarkmittetoast7967 3 жыл бұрын
This was very instructive because I plan to make my own plastics. I saw some mold of good bait, sold by bugmold ... but after your test ... i'm probably not .... after some research, I found CNC plastic mold ... what do you think about it ?
@backwatercatfishing4989
@backwatercatfishing4989 4 жыл бұрын
I have the bugmolds aluminum molds (just what I chose) they work just fine.. Just have to wait on them to reach you is only down side.. Never got stone molds..great video
@owinkorf9747
@owinkorf9747 4 жыл бұрын
Im a beginner. What are the best but affordable cnc mold brands?
@pistolpetepeterson
@pistolpetepeterson 4 жыл бұрын
Here is a soft plastic question for you. if you were to melt down and re mold z-man elaztec baits. Would they keep their super stretchy elastic quality and super buoyancy? What about other non plastisol baits? do they keep their qualities after being melted and remolded?
@basscatlildave
@basscatlildave 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I have a stone mold that I picked up on a deal from somebody with a little finesse worm it shoots OK but there’s nothing like the CNC
@daniellaw8999
@daniellaw8999 4 жыл бұрын
Don't oil a stone mould. Use a proper universal mould release spray and the lures will come out just fine. On both baitmold and bugmold they recommend lubricating the mold so why shoot it without lube? Seems pointless and destined to fail. It's like trying to drive your car without putting gas in it. CNC moulds are great, but for the hobbyist just making baits for themselves and maybe a friend or two, I'd go with stone everytime. I'd choose cnc if I wanted to produce big numbers of baits to sell.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Glad the stone molds are to your liking.
@marctheriault
@marctheriault 4 жыл бұрын
First remark, not even 30 seconds in 🤣 I love seeing you on the Vater pad. I remember Ronnie, Alan and their dad from years ago when I grew up in MA and had dealings with the company in jobs later on. Was sad to hear of Ronnie’s passing a little while ago, but I smile for him every time I see your “endorsement”. 🥰
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!
@Loochy808
@Loochy808 4 жыл бұрын
The denting on the doit molds can be solved by oiling. Rippers (what Chris is shooting here) and senkos are the worst offenders. shoot them slow, around 315* and oil them. I like vegetable oil spray to oil the molds (I just use cheapo walmart great value spray).
@MrDawidao
@MrDawidao 4 жыл бұрын
The 350 degrees for the heated plastic is almost 180 celsius right?
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know off the top of my head but you can do the conversion online
@Saber_Outdoors
@Saber_Outdoors 4 жыл бұрын
Could you use pam to oil your molds.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jaimecorona9948
@jaimecorona9948 3 жыл бұрын
Brother, I need information about making a mold, can you help me?
@keeperofthegood
@keeperofthegood 4 жыл бұрын
Chris, I am surprised that you didn't go that extra step :) dip those rough baits in a clear with something that plays well with textures like a little bit of hypershift or pearl power added. Good demonstration over all. The other n00b item I have been looking at are injectors. There seem to be a wide range of them from DIY copper pipe rigs, to glass syringes, teflon ones and a range of aluminum ones. Including multi injectors that mix sizes (25/75 volume difference for example). And in terms of volume from 40cc and on up.
@marctheriault
@marctheriault 4 жыл бұрын
I've been going through a bunch of Chris' DIY vids and his first choice for injectors seems to be Bass Tackle. www.basstackle.com/category_s/78.htm. Still doing hand pour for now, but that's my plan if I make a jump to injection.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
@@marctheriault definitely bass tackle!
@BIOSYNBAITS
@BIOSYNBAITS 3 жыл бұрын
Which CNC swimbait mold was that? Link if possible
@michaelgarcia4210
@michaelgarcia4210 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using and selling lures using the do-it 3 inch paddle tail mold. I have sends like crazy in the bodys of my baits. I was starting to think it was because of my temperature or error, but it’s great to see it’s not just me lol. Definitely going to invest in some new molds
@michaelgarcia4210
@michaelgarcia4210 4 жыл бұрын
Dents*
@hawkins3888
@hawkins3888 4 жыл бұрын
good video for those trying to decide which molds types to get would like to see a video on curly tail crappie grubs with tails one color and body another keep up the good work on videos very informative
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@spunkmeyerk6660
@spunkmeyerk6660 4 жыл бұрын
Could you polish the cast mold to get a nicer finish?
@chucktimm9803
@chucktimm9803 10 ай бұрын
high temp engine paint i used gloss black in them both and pour very nice in my case
@fbisurveillancevan1635
@fbisurveillancevan1635 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 3.5 inch ripper cast 3 cavity. You can tell it was casted when you look at the finish on the baits, ill say that.
@daxtonashby6547
@daxtonashby6547 4 жыл бұрын
hey how would i check if a mold has a patent on it to know if i could sell them or not?
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Buy from American companies..they generally have done their due diligence on that. Ultimately it's up to you.
@darrenhall7990
@darrenhall7990 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video. I do have a special place in my heart for the blue silicone molds. I have better luck pouring a 3 pour worm. I can get the heat just right to split the bloodline on the middle layer. It looks beautiful. Especially with a top smoked color with a split gold dust bloodline, and the bottom smoke. I like how you can add volume to the worm, height wise, without an actual over pour. I've bought 1 piece CNC flats, I can't get those results. I also bought a couple injection molds, they are en route from BTS and and AI. Now I can't find the GOOD injectors with the locking cap. I need a triple with a triple and a double block. I guess pouring flats for the last 25 years has me stuck in my ways. Just need the injectors to start this journey and get with the times.
@johnathanswan490
@johnathanswan490 4 жыл бұрын
What is your option on do it molds plastic
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
have not heard very many good reviews on it.
@johnathanswan490
@johnathanswan490 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing okay thank you a cool video would be dead on vs do it
@miffyleslie
@miffyleslie 4 жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me the CNC Swimbait mold you used? I NEED that mold!! Thank you
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Angling Ai bloodline swimbait mold
@davewesternky
@davewesternky 4 жыл бұрын
Been using the stone molds for years and all I do is keep a makeup brush in a jar of Vaseline and every other shot just brush a light coat and no problems.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting..glad they are working for ya 🙌
@i2aspire
@i2aspire 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I ordered 2 more Angling A.I molds than the cheaper ones, thanks for sharing
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Ai is incredible
@MrShawnmg
@MrShawnmg 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Was waiting for this one!!!
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@darrenhall7990
@darrenhall7990 3 жыл бұрын
On those type of stone molds...Elmer's concrete bond works real well.
@bdooley8469
@bdooley8469 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I’ve been waiting for this video. Good to know, I won’t be buying the stone. I wouldn’t mind seeing you try a stone mold with it coated with engine block paint. Side note, how do you prevent denting?
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Usually injecting at a super low temperature and holding 10 seconds of pressure is the cure for most denting
@bdooley8469
@bdooley8469 4 жыл бұрын
@@WorldsWorstFishing ok, I’d been doing it at about the 375 mark in a cold mold. I’ll try letting it cool a little bit next time
@abrahamgbarberstation7445
@abrahamgbarberstation7445 3 жыл бұрын
where you can buy aluminum molds
@KG_85
@KG_85 4 жыл бұрын
Love all the great content, was wondering what camera you use for filming and if maybe you can do a video on your filming setup. Thanks for all the great content!
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
I use a mirrorless Canon EOS on a tripod.. my filming process is not really all that complicated and would not probably make a very good video
@joshuastubblefield678
@joshuastubblefield678 2 ай бұрын
whatabout making your own with cnc mechine
@notsure8327
@notsure8327 2 жыл бұрын
I actually find a full finish can bring beneficial. I rough up my flukes and some other plastics sometimes to take that sheen off of it and it makes it look more natural I feel like. I know Shad are very glimmery fish but especially when it comes to bluegill colors, green pumpkin and the like, I’ve found it to be effective. So the finish in some cases is not the biggest deal. That said there’s no substitute for the tolerances in a CNC product
@robertjordan6282
@robertjordan6282 3 ай бұрын
What if you polished the cast mold?
@marctheriault
@marctheriault 4 жыл бұрын
Just sitting down to watch this, didn’t realize you were looking for something to do ta-day! 😂 Never mind... just checked your weather... I wouldn’t have planned a fishing trip either. 😎
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Weather wasn't the best today
@JCrooks412
@JCrooks412 4 жыл бұрын
CNC molds for sure. I do use some cast aluminum molds still since thats what I started with before getting molds from angling AI. Great video, keep them up.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
🙌
@jcrow530
@jcrow530 4 жыл бұрын
I have used ceramic/stone molds and they are a pain I think. Have to be very well oiled and they have a dull finish. Never tried a CNC mold.
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah stone gave me lots of trouble .
@ericjones8797
@ericjones8797 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a good 5" senkos mold any recommendations also i have a couple of plastic baits I would like to get CNC Aluminum molds made do you now anyone that would do it.
@joehadaway5018
@joehadaway5018 4 жыл бұрын
Bugmolds.com can duplicate any mold or bait you have or even turn a drawing into a mold. They will do it in stone or aluminum to. You can get multiple cavities with individual sprues or single sprue and a runner. Its a foreign company but they do good work from what I have received. My stone molds catch as much as the aluminum
@WorldsWorstFishing
@WorldsWorstFishing 4 жыл бұрын
There are many many options for good CNC aluminum stick worm molds, basically just look at all the mold websites and take your pick..as far as real CNC custom work, you'll probably need to go overseas for that, most American companies don't make much money on custom work.
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