BATTLE OF THE BEST: Mizuno Pro 245 Vs Mizuno Pro 243 - You Decide The Winner!

Welcome to our latest golf iron comparison video! Today, we're diving into the highly anticipated match-up between the New Mizuno Pro 245 Players Distance Iron and the New Mizuno Pro 243 Players Cavity Iron. While these two irons may only differ by a couple of degrees in loft, their unique technologies pave the way for intriguing discussions, particularly in blending the sets for optimal performance across the bag.
In this detailed review, we'll explore the key differences in design, technology, and performance between the Mizuno Pro 245 and the Mizuno Pro 243. From distance gains to forgiveness, we'll break down how each iron caters to different player preferences and skill levels.
Whether you're a seasoned golfer looking for that extra distance or a player aiming for enhanced forgiveness and control, this comparison will provide valuable insights to help you make an informed decision about which iron set suits your game best.
Join us as we dissect the intricacies of these premium golf irons and uncover the secrets behind achieving the perfect blend for your golf bag. Don't miss out on this exciting showdown between two of Mizuno's finest offerings!
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[@jadamane]

You deserve more subscribes and likes . It’s all about information and detail and comparisons and what ifs and wisdom and knowledge and you have all that

[@AskGolfNut]

Thank you very much for the kind words and feedback 👍🏻

[@douglasgardner4004]

This is exactly what I've been debating for my irons - hollow body vs cavity back with similar lofts. Very happy to see this comparison. I'm in the low 80's 7 iron swing speed group. I'm finding that the hollow body irons I have spin just a tad too low in the long irons and I get more roll out on the green than I want. Still holds the green but not as precise as I would like. I have the Pro 223 irons and find that I can play through 5 iron and get good stopping power. My choice was between playing the 223 through 5 iron or hollow body through 6 iron. If the 6 iron is strong enough then it can gap just fine to my 25 degree hybrid. I decided to go with the Pro 223 for the feel and looks. I think the additional spin helps me when coming out of the rough where spin gets knocked down and also with consistency. Really could go either way but the 223's feel great. This is especially important to me in 8, 9, PW, G. The hollow irons don't feel great to me in that part of the bag.

[@AskGolfNut]

Some great considerations in your comment, so many facets to think about when choosing irons. Seems as though in balance you made the right choice 👍🏻👍🏻

[@aaronforrester3968]

I bought the 243 they feel fantastic. The distance is surprisingly long. I had them bent to retro lofts and have gained distance over my Callaway Apex 21. I did get a four iron in the 245 and it is an absolute beast of the Teebox on a short par four. 243 are the best filling irons I have ever hit.great review as always!

[@AskGolfNut]

Appreciate your kind feedback 👍🏻

[@tmunday7270001475143]

Great review! Owned the 225s & just purchased the 243s.. both are incredible irons.. Simply can't go wrong with this brand.. Mizunos have always been some of the finest irons in golf!

[@TheHalo14aus]

Agreed, for me it's Mizuno and then the rest. Tempted to upgrade from my MP25s, these videos are fantastic in making a decision.

[@jadamane]

Nice perfect timing . You’re very timely mate . It’s nice

[@AskGolfNut]

Glad I got it released in time for you 👍🏻

[@astroidother3609]

I saw a Mizuno vid with Luke and he hit 241, 243 and 245 7 irons. Same spin, more height and more distance as he moved up the range. Descent angle also went up. He commented he should game 245’s across the whole bag. I have a full set of the original HMB’s and I love them. I tried an MP20 PW but still preferred the HMB’s. Go Mizuno

[@garth19791]

I watch a lot of golf club reviews & your channel is by far the most detailed. How you differentiate between the 2 in regards to spin & the effect Tungsten has on the club between the 243 & 245 gave me a clearer view of which direction I’m going. Thankyou

[@AskGolfNut]

Thanks for the kind feedback, I'm not sure everyone wants the fine detail that I provide hence why I haven't grown quicker, but by using a launch monitor with Head Measuring Tech it enables me to be totally unbiased towards which golf clubs work or not. It takes a long long time to produce the content so glad you enjoy the format 👍🏻

[@JeremiahAlphonsus]

I went from Titleist T150 to Mizuno Pro 245. This was a mistake, since the 245 is more like the Titleist T200. I despised the hollow body feel and sound of the 245. Hence I'm now getting the Mizuno 243, since it's very like the Titleist T150, even with identical lofts.

[@nathaniverson6828]

I would love to see the addition of bending the 245 weak to the same loft and see the comparison

[@AskGolfNut]

Hi Nathan within the testing I matched the lofts as close as I could throughout all the datasets with the largest discrepancy being 0. 8 of a degree. I think on balance all the results given and any winner/loser etc is due to head design etc rather than a tiny amount of loft difference relative to it's static amount 👍🏻 Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍🏻

[@nathaniverson6828]

@@AskGolfNut keep it up

[@pschlick4]

Just bought the 243s and have played 3 rounds with them so far. Still adjusting but they definitely fly higher than my 716 CBs that they replaced.

[@AskGolfNut]

Can generally take a little while when changing irons to get used to teh trajectory and carry differences. When experiencing a peak height gain that also normally comes with a descent angle change which will change roll out distances ad so can take time to get used to. It's common and will subside with more time using them 👍🏻

[@DrewJZ]

Just got fitted for 243s and was expecting to blend the set. Mizuno told me that it's not needed with how they designed the 243. It's already blended down the set if considering a blending with 245 and I agree. A 241/243 combo makes sense tho, but it would look weird in the bag.

[@AskGolfNut]

Agree with the looks blend. I'd personally go heavily weakened 245 set into the 241s. Looks and lofts largely blended but the feel differences would still be quite apparent when going from one to the other 👍🏻

[@tonyt1020]

I wanted the 245s based on looks lol. But i was hitting the 243 much better and feel was a lot better to me.

[@DrewJZ]

This is more normal than you think. I thought the same thing until I put the 245 down at the ball. It's big and chunky. 243 is so fast off the face that when I tested 245..only one or two balls maybe carried 2 or 3 yds further, and it didn't feel as good.

[@AskGolfNut]

Drew and Tony, this is the wonderful thing about humans playing golf, they all come up with different experiences. Although it's sometimes counterintuitive, I've seen it countless times that the golfer with the smaller club head in hands actually strikes it better and gets overall better results with the smaller club head. This is due to the spray consistency of their strike with the smaller head.... The brain thinks this club head is tiny so I better concentrate here 😊

[@home4ya]

seriously considering 245 w retro lofts, forgiveness + spin = winner, great vid!

[@AskGolfNut]

Exactly what Luke Donald decided to do, he's always been blade through, but experimented with a heavily weakened 245 set and he's never looked back 👍🏻

[@michaelcibula9552]

Is this something you can order from Mizuno or a fitter where the loft and rest of club are adjusted together? I would think Luke’s set also has some custom grinding to adjust the bounce.

[@AskGolfNut]

@michaelcibula9552 Mizunos have very low bounded and even with the weakened off lofts, the amount of deloft at impact negates most of the bounce anyway 👍🏻👍🏻 only the Tour van would bend them 4 weak, 3 would be the absolute max that the normal custom fitting factory would do 👍🏻

[@nielsaxelsson]

Great comparison as always. I must admit, that the 245 in my eyes is just much nicer looking than the 243 with that odd wedge-like thing that looked stuffed down in the speed-slot... 😒 For that reason alone it would be 245 for me between the two, and then maybe bent a bit to fit distances better (if needed)

[@AskGolfNut]

Agree for sure, and for me I'd look to weaken them off like Luke Donald to get them much much closer to that of the 241s. Then they'd work great for a higher swing speed player for sure 👍🏻

[@tmunday7270001475143]

Fact is the 253s look more like a blade from the top, which is what you look at when you're in your setup . Thinner top line & shorter blade Length.. I've owned both and kept the 243s & sold the 245s. I also like to work the ball a little bit and found it was easier with the 243s

[@alexlasky2031]

243’s for me

[@AskGolfNut]

You aren't wrong at all for going 243s 👍🏻

[@william_hartman]

Great comparison. I wish I could play either, my ball striking isn't consistent enough for that. Instead I have a set of Hot Metal Pros that I hit a bit too far, took them to get bent weak and Golf Galaxy wasn't able to do it and refunded me.

[@AskGolfNut]

Have you actually put the HMP directly up against the 245s in a like for like test. I generally have always got surprisingly good results from golfers teasing these 2 types of irons. The 245s being the Players Distance iron is a bridging iron to that of the HMPs 👍🏻

[@william_hartman]

@@AskGolfNut I'd like to, but new clubs aren't in the budget unfortunately. If I could go back in time and hold off on the fitting last fall when I got the HMP I would.

[@333brooky]

thanks Jay good stuff as always

[@AskGolfNut]

Glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏻

[@76oldiron]

Did you say what shaft you are using for this video? If so missed it.

[@andrefischer5259]

Gown would you compare 245 vs Wilson d9 forged (or dynapwr) in terms of forgiveness? Txt !!

[@midhc5072]

245s do look good and a perfect vertical descent angle for the greens.

[@AskGolfNut]

A severely weakened off set of 245's ala Like Donald style would be my personal choice 👍🏻

[@williamvandenbergh9296]

Great comparison Jay! Could you compare the 243 with the ZX5/ZX7 combo? As the 243 is a little of a combo by itself...

[@andrewwailes7858]

Really looking forward to this one Jay! Still can’t believe Luke Donald has bagged 245’s all the way through. If they spin within a few hundred rpm of the 243 I’ll have to demo them. I have hit the blueprint S against the 243 and my MP 60’s (7 iron) off mats on a sim and I didn’t see or feel a huge difference between all 3 to be fair.

[@AskGolfNut]

Lukes 245s are weakened off a lot to basically mimic his old bladed lofts. I heard one say 4 degrees weaker.... I think Mizuno would only normally bend them 2 or maybe max 3 for retail. The spin of a weakened off 245 would be much higher than the one you'll test within a custom fitting, but the fitter would be able to tell you the expected spin characteristics with a weakened head 👍🏻

[@andrewwailes7858]

Thanks for the response mate and great video as always!!

[@AskGolfNut]

Always try to help as much as I can so appreciate it 👍🏻

[@clw22580]

I’m getting “flyers” with my current GI irons were im 10-20 yards too long. Went in for a pxg fitting and they recommended their players cavity with a heavier shaft I’m a 15 hcp currently not sure I’m “good enough” for a players cavity

[@gjones9558]

Had the 245’s for about 6 weeks and unfortunately it just wasn’t a match made in heaven. On the market they go :( Whether it was just a bad fitting on the day I’m not sure. Mizuno beautiful clubs that’s for sure! Yet another great video J

[@AskGolfNut]

Sad that they didn't work out for you, to be honest it's a strange one as usually if the fitting was half decent then a club of its all rounded nature tends to work quite well. Would be interested to know more about the fitting process you went through 👍🏻

[@gjones9558]

@@AskGolfNut I was surprised that’s for sure. And my bank balance is hurt as a result. Just like anything sometimes we can have a not so ideal lesson or fitting. Previous fittings have been flawless.

[@ratbastard4443]

@gjones9558, just curious, what shafts and Alex do you have as well as where are you located? I might be interested in buying your 245'5

[@ratbastard4443]

flex

[@gjones9558]

@@ratbastard4443 stiff modus 115

[@lkae4]

I think the 243 has the perfect topline, not too thin, not too chunky. Would be interesting to see a 245 with the topline and offset of the 243. That would be a very difficult decision.

[@CheezMaster333]

They have the exact same offset thru the set

[@lkae4]

@@CheezMaster333 Wow. That makes 245 very tempting indeed.

[@mr2fyre]

I will be getting a fitting soon and these are two heads that I am looking at. It will be interesting to see how I hit them compared to my mp-67s. My current clubs are 1.5” long and 2 upright. This seems very appropriate for my wedges-7 iron but the 6,5,4 all feel a bit long. Is there something you would recommend in the longer irons for a tall person like me who apparently has short arms?

[@earnestfarley]

I am considering the 245s I currently game the Titleist T100s irons. Anyone have experience comparing these two?

[@GCasRod]

I bought a set of 245s less than a month ago. They are awesome. However, I've noticed the ferrules on my PW and 7i have come loose (i.e. there's now a gap between the bottom of the ferrule and the club head) and the club heads have moved to a closed position i.e. they are no longer square. I'm wondering if anyone else has had issues with the build quality of their 245s or Jay whether you've heard any other stories like this? I'm waiting on replies from both Mizuno and the retailer...

[@mortarlerroux3375]

Interesting you say this, I have the 243’s and my ferrule on my 4i has came loose, however I haven’t noticed the club head being affected by that, but don’t know if I’ve ever really inspected it to be sure

[@GCasRod]

@@mortarlerroux3375 The retailer got it fixed for me very quickly. My clubheads were visibly not square anymore. You can check for yourself pretty easily. line the clubhead up on the floor against a straight line (e.g. a tile) as if you are going to hit a shot. Now look at your grip. Assuming you have the name of the maker e.g. Golf Pride facing up, it the brand name still in a centred position or does it look like the grip has 'spun around'? For me, seems there was a problem with the epoxy used in building the clubs. No problems since the retailer re-fitted the heads. If you do get them refitted, get the lofts and lie angles checked again...

[@damiensharkey6603]

What about the spin?

[@andrewrudzinski5653]

Again, you chose the 243 over 245 due to sound. Love the higher spin, meaning more control, correct?

[@AskGolfNut]

It's all down to what you need from the club. If its forgiveness then the 245 with the tungsten takes the win, if it's feel then the 243 wins.... Both very much so have merit. For the general golfer possibly the 245s will have most appeal 👍🏻

[@andrewrudzinski5653]

@@AskGolfNut Thank you for the advice. Seems to me that the 243 is my better option. Used to cavity back, need more control as well

[@stevew8938]

There is a difference in loft of the 2 clubs, if 243s were 1 degree strong would this close the distance gap/spin etc?

[@AskGolfNut]

The difference in Loft between all the different head speed datasets was minimal at best, less than a degree on all of them. The difference even if those tenths of a degree we matched perfectly wouldn't in any way bring the characteristics gap close. These two heads vertically gear differently. These two heads work very well in a blended set and on their own, its just the fitter has to keep an eye on the golfer in questions spin rates for both heads to know what loft tweaking to do to gap them properly 👍

[@lordnery]

Can you compare the 245 vs the honma TW 757? Thanks.

[@AskGolfNut]

Would have to get hold of the TWs first 👍🏻

[@petemajor4454]

Be interesting to see how they perform with a regular shaft at slower swing speeds🤔

[@AskGolfNut]

Absolutely for the average golfer with a slower swing speed, getting the shaft correct can make a massive difference to the golfer 👍

[@petemajor4454]

​@@AskGolfNutThere's a video for you if you get bored😁

[@AskGolfNut]

@petemajor4454 doing the tests with an amateur golfer at the helm would be a recipe for a massively long video especially for a comparison. In the numbers side, doing 3 different datasets and forgiveness testing of the heads takes me long enough to do 😊 heavens knows how long and how many shots it would take otherwise 😊

[@CharlotteK2008]

Always the same bloody comments…. Go look elsewhere for that or go and do the test yourself

[@petemajor4454]

@@AskGolfNut Thats why I said if you get bored😂 When I can get a fit organised I'll try & share some of the data if I can capture it😎

[@tomt.2385]

Hi Jay, the 243 looks very similar to my Ping I210. Do they perform and feel similar? Thank you.

[@tmunday7270001475143]

No where close.. go to your local retailer & try the 243.. the feel & performance is incredible

[@alanhall-nz4hn]

Are you a professional golfer. As your set up looks odd to me. Great video ❤

[@AskGolfNut]

Yes previously before transitioning to KZbin full time I used to Coach and Custom Fit. All golfers are different and we all bring our own characteristics to the game, that's why it's so important to coach the individual and not necessarily a teaching manual. There are so many interesting swings on Tour at the top level, so I've never had the inclination to come away from what works and also just for aesthetics. Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍🏻

[@DuoenoG]

Great video! Thanks for this. I'm hoping for a bit of advice on gapping? I've ordered 241 pw-7 and 6-4 in 243, how would you advise I adjust lofts? I've got dg 120 x100 shafts approx 94mph speed.

[@CheezMaster333]

1 strong on the 241’s, 1 weak on the 243’s would be a sensible starting place. See how the turf interaction and offset works for you from there

[@AskGolfNut]

Personally I'd weaken the 243s 2 degrees 👍🏻

[@DuoenoG]

@@AskGolfNut thanks, would the bounce be okay with that though?

[@AskGolfNut]

@DuoenoG bounce really has, very little effect on things, especially when historically Mizuno have very little bounce and with the normal amount of defloft through shaft lean into, impact, again commonly there is literally no bounce being displayed. Ping have one of the most bounce spec'd irons on the market yet haven't noticed the bounce play any role in how one club feels and works compared to one with very little. Either way, whatever help bounce may or may not give on the fat shots (hit ground before the ball), unless dynamic lie is 0 relative to the floor, then the bounce won't work either way..... So long story short, it wouldn't be on my radar whatsoever to be an issue 👍🏻

[@DuoenoG]

@@AskGolfNut you’re the best mate thanks for that detailed understanding! 💪🏾

[@neoinarien]

For the algorithm!

[@AskGolfNut]

As always, appreciated 👍🏻 👍🏻

[@darrylyee409]

243s > 245s. They look better, feel better, less offset and weaker lofts, and are still very long and forgiving... surprisingly.

[@JohnnyBoy4]

Can we just be clear. For amateurs and pros, those 1st two shots are not misses or baby pushes mate. They are world class, take it every day of the week shots. I don't get why you word it like that. Tiger Woods in 2005 is taking that shot 100/100. Love you vids though, so so good, but come on.

[@AskGolfNut]

I am over critical.... I've always been that way.... Its what drives me to continue to want to improve so you'll have to excuse the ridiculous nature of my self criticism 🤣🤣👍🏻👍🏻

[@JohnnyBoy4]

Haha good man. Remember playing with a guy who carries it 300 and as hes watching it sail down the fairway he says " oooo just pulled it" ASS!​@@AskGolfNut

[@AskGolfNut]

@JohnnyBoy4 yep I'm another one of those 🤣🤣

[@jadamane]

221vs241 next haha

[@AskGolfNut]

If only more people cared for it, I would. Unfortunately it just wouldn't be worth the time doing the video 😐👍🏻