Battle of the Supercars: Koenigsegg vs. Rimac - Pioneers Festival 2015

THE BATTLE OF THE SUPERCARS
MATE RIMAC, RIMAC AUTOMOBILI
CHRISTIAN VON KOENIGSEGG, KOENIGSEGG
RALPH SIMON, MOBILIUM GLOBAL
www.pioneers.io
#pioneers15

[@GranDaddo]

They both can be proud. Fantastic cars.

[@Magnezone962]

I agree they should be buddies, too.

[@GranDaddo]

We could go thru whole debate how actually Electric cars are clean (if the process of building them is bad), but I do not believe it makes sense with this kinds of manufacturer. Also it does not need to be labeled as "bad" as it meets several criteria that gives them good excuse - their cars are in limited numbers and not driven a lot (probably one A class pollutes far more in its lifetime), they are being build with different purposes and methodology (in many ways Electric supercars are still not performing nearly as ICE), it's price and beauty makes them almost like jewelry. Maybe there are other attributes you could assign to this manufacturer. Secondary, nothing they develop (except engine) is a waste. Aero, suspension, chasis, tires... that all will be of benefit to e-cars. So instead of looking it very black and white, I am trying to see it as evolution step. For daily comute - bring ecars on, but for joy of driving (racing) ICE is still way to go...

[@swalling22]

both are amazing, humble guys. there needs to be more people like this. great video

[@richpotatothebestg.m.ovegg2599]

The world would be a better place if there was more Mates/Christians

[@martinfreund6737]

And now, the Koenigsegg Regara has electric motors made by Rimac :D

[@1anre]

Really?

[@martinfreund6737]

Lanre Oladejo Yep.

[@josephjacobs5429]

I read that YASA, a British company, develops the electric engines for the Regera... Not sure if that has changed over time... koenigsegg.com/regera/ 7 paragraphs down...

[@en_ray]

Rimac make the battery packs, not the motors. Insane tech throughout both machines though!

[@Nenmeu2]

Martin Freund lol no

[@mn029]

1min Silence for ChristianVonKoenigsegg. The Greatestman in the History of Automobile

[@fireblade3655]

Never thought someone could outshine Christain on a stage but Mate does it. Although i love Koenigsegg, but Rimac is boss too.

[@Hilariumosis]

Fire Blade In what way? If one were shining on that stage its was Christian. When it comes to choice of clothing, smiling and a more open body language. Story wise they both did okay though I thought Mate did some wierd sudden switch of subject like when he said his car accelerates faster than the LaFerrari out of nowhere when he was talking about something else. Mate overall looked nervous from his body language and sounded nervous from talking a bit too fast. But equal respect to them both, two geniuses that makes the world much more fun and green :)

[@fireblade3655]

Kim V Dude Mate is new so yea i agree that he was a little nervous as he isnt used to this, but the thing he hjas created is a beast and koenigsegg actually took Rimac's help in Regera's Electric Assist.

[@Tain950]

I think both are amazing in their own way. As much as I am a Christian fan I have to admit that Mate is pushing the envelope more than Christian is at this point. Like you said, Christian getting help from Mate on his new car speaks volumes.

[@martinjersic6160]

Fire Blade

[@MrWalker1000]

rimac and koen are both friends and hang out often. But yeah rimac is really quite something.

[@Mladjasmilic]

Steta sto ovakav snimak nema vise pregleda .

[@dragonraopen2604]

Mladen Milić dje ce imati jesi lud ... da propagiraju balkan kako smo pametniji... Hrvat prikazao Sprski elektricni motor Nikole Tesle u realnosti :D Mislim da je to prevelika uvreda za svjet

[@greynolds17]

why is this a competition...both these men are amazing

[@user-ep1cl1yk7z]

BOTH GUYS ARE GREAT

[@davidchaffee9775]

These are my hero's

[@ravikiranmadichetty9453]

these guys and Elon musk are my inspiration

[@sabinocosta3803]

"Oh! And our car is faster than the LaFerrari accelarating, btw." Noice

[@kambojsbTech]

I love both these car companies

[@LordPrometheous]

Thumbs up only for the company founders, 10 thumbs down for the weirdo old guy. Worst opening joke ever, and amazingly he still manages to go downhill from there.

[@dParakeet]

LMFAOOOO

[@Johny40Se7en]

Two revolutionaries. Awesome cars. The Agera R in silver with the bright blue stripes on the bonnet will always be one of my favourite cars, the noise and the bonkers speed of it, it's stunning.

[@janivelic2316]

Kralj lijeve trake❤ Mate the king of speed and management skills!🤘👏🏼

[@natasagligorevic2767]

ovakvi hrvati su extra svaka cast momak

[@PETROLSCENTED]

they're awesome people!

[@chriscooperman6102]

If Koenigsegg and Rimac joined forces for a project, i am sure that they would come up with something quite amazing.i hope that they consider it !

[@Bad0N7]

They already did, it's called Regera. They built batteries for it.

[@thatbloomer5642]

They built Regera together, which in my personal opinion, still is one of the most sophisticated cars ever built.

[@raoulapereira]

Great to see these two pioneers and visionaries thriving! They've both gone from strength to strength. Very excited on the new Koenigsegg EV Hypercar which is a collaboaration with Rimac.

[@MrUltraworld]

Why is this a contest?

[@jackcool8955]

this shit aint competition. Its inspirational speech by 2 successful people

[@derbigpr500]

It's not a competition. In fact, they WORK TOGETHER.

[@nazirzh]

rimac forever! go mate!!! such a fan!!

[@christiansanden8005]

2 pioneers for real!

[@warakanda7356]

car of the future, congratulations koenigsegg & rimac.. hopefully, you put fully electric superhypercars into production quickly. I kind of like the noise from the air when the car passed through the cameras. it's so awesome..

[@sostareci]

Great guys. Go for it!!!!

[@mav1111]

legends, would love to see a fully electric Koenigsegg though!

[@larskellner9439]

Would be amazing

[@nikdanish6136]

regera

[@cokbagus23]

not fully electric

[@dvuksan8547]

ES well concept one is just like a full electric koenigsnegg

[@pol1250]

I hope so much Rimac doesn't run out of money !!! Fantastic car .....the koenigsegg on the other hand .....maybe ten years ago !!

[@sultanofswingdrift3021]

they are both fantastic, what Koenigsegg did with Ragera is next level for petrol cars and Rimac is doing next level electic. Personally I like Ragera more but Mate has bigger potential,right now his car is a bit to clinical, while Ragera packs big emotional punch.

[@stefangrubesic2708]

Well this week a chinese company gave them 30M €

[@nonieb.2640]

277.9

[@AnthonyGriz]

"Everything is Possible"... 😊

[@blasterap1999]

wow, just amazing!

[@ltomic0190]

Great video, really inspiring, Mate and Cristian are heroes.

[@saf3693]

Is it just me or is Christian a reminder of the kingpin?

[@septemberRvsh]

"It is absolutely possible "

[@1anre]

See how few the comments are on such an important debate. More of these kind of videos please!

[@petelincek1]

but we should know, that koenigsegg is using Rimac electric powertrain in their hybrid

[@HAMMAD0213]

Matjaž Ucman no the koenigsegg eletric motor comes from british based company called YASA motors

[@BarileoBarilei]

Rimac makes batteries for Koenigsegg. Maybe cooperation was started after this show

[@nr1skiller]

Joseph Jacobs 4 years ago (edited) I read that YASA, a British company, develops the electric engines for the Regera... Not sure if that has changed over time... koenigsegg.com/regera/ 7 paragraphs down...

[@bishnupriyapattnaik5079]

they are in partnership rimac develops battery pack for koenigsegg and as well as koenigsegg develops something for rimac i dont really remember what it was....

[@soos3811]

Nothing, Rimac developes and produces everything for itself

[@EVILSPAWN1003]

Extacy joke fell FLAT on it`s face

[@thordurhognason7961]

koeniksegg is of course the greatest car manufacturer in the world

[@thordurhognason7961]

Rimac doesn't come close to Koenigsegg

[@intersanctum]

Concept_S is way better than Concept One and it can be compared with any Koenigsegg car. In the end Rimac and they are cooperating.

[@chikken_soup]

Neither are the _"greatest car manufacturer"_ because their cars are unattainable by 99.99% of the population

[@terrypussypower]

No chance! The most obvious difference between both cars is the thing that gives the Koenigsegg the edge and always will......THE SOUND!

[@Nenmeu2]

yep

[@Adrianaserrano1]

to me it sounded like mate got a louder applause ... just saying

[@richardneedham4977]

Seemo Ney He did.

[@Blck_s1quattro]

You just cant choose betwin these guys they are both the leaders in each of their catogory

[@Architect_from_future]

Они оба мой кумир, всегда восхищаюсь их проделанный путь который отличный пример для миллионами людей, в том числе и нытиков который думает простой человек некогда не может достигнет высокие "горы"

[@hoffyc.h393]

Koenigsegg FTW!!

[@weraceasonemasterplantm4211]

I am from croatia Hrvatska

[@brcak2000]

RIMAC WAS BORN IN BOSNIA NOT IN CROATIA

[@soos3811]

Hercegovina, full of ethnic Croats

[@tvrtkokotromanic9158]

@@soos3811 they are bosnian catholics not Croats

[@svicozoro1502]

Wow Respekt ✌

[@perfectlybalanced8995]

What if Koenigsegg, Rimac, Bugatti, and Hennessy teamed up. Imagine a hypercar they would make.

[@hanswerboch118]

???????? Who is the car ?????????

[@crunchyburrito2257]

tough crowd...

[@georgethalassinos3991]

"Toys for rich guys"

[@-MANWITHN0NAME-]

Koenigsegg Rimac Tesla make a car together what happens ?

[@endrizo]

make an affordable nice cool practical car for the masses.

[@cutdepiefails6596]

That's the point of Rimac, when you push technologies, you explore and find new things and ways, this new things and ways will find a way into the affordable products, but the research and development is initially paid by the rich guys that want the latest stuff. Don't worry, you will see a 'nice cool practical car for the masses' either from RIMAC (they are already a big ass player in the automotive market, they even supply Koenigsegg with batteries for the Regera), or other companies that will use RIMAC parts for their cars.

[@tt100123]

What Rimac did is very impressive, but Königsegg is superior. The Concept one is a 2 ton heavy monster with extremely impressive acceleration. Königsegg on the other Hand - 700 kg lighter. There is no way the rimac will keep up on winding roads. Same for the LaFerrari which accelerates slower but... this thing is just too heavy. Chiristian said it too - he doesnt like elctric cars, they are too heavy. The other thing is: The Rimac got only this annoying electric sound - i would miss a proper engine sound in a car like that badly. Yet, i am super impressed what mate build up there and of course he will easily sell every car he and his Team build for whatever price he calls for it.

[@crunchyburrito2257]

The thing with electric cars is the batteries, Mate said it himself, the batteries are crap, but once those improve, the electric cars will be way ahead of combustion cars

[@josipjosipovic9514]

Really the greatest improvement in concept one is torque vectoring system, controling each wheel with its own motor. And by that it is waaay ahead of any combustion engine car, not to talk about corners and drifting. This car is literally from the future. Wach some videos about concept one and you will get it. Of course Königsegg is pushing boundaries, but concept one is out of this world. Just imagine Rimac and his new car for like 10 years. Also, the Rimac produced a racing car with 1500 HP, and it was an sensation on Pikes Peak, that proves what Mate said, concept one is just the beginning, the car could go much much faster and it could have much more power but its restricted by the system. And in the end, tell me the difference in speed by these two? Königsegg slightly better but, lets say it weights like concept one, you think it would beat him? Of course not, because electric motor is waaaay more efficient :)

[@tvrtkokotromanic9158]

You fool. Combustion engine is primitive technology of the past. Electric car engines are the future. Mate is ten times the brain od that bald swede or whatever he is. Mate started in a post war Balkan country with all the challenges and made gold out of rock. It was way easier for Koenigsegg.

[@fireblade3655]

This shouldnt have been a competition.

[@nishithasapukotanage2952]

Koenigsegg

[@allensaunders449]

konnensig cars are like bugatti they don't do much you just hear about hp and top speed how about a real comprehensive road review and track reviews too

[@bishnupriyapattnaik5079]

Allen Saunders they are way better than the buggati even they are the rival brands ........but good to see rimacs partnership with koenigsegg

[@mellertid]

A little bit less impossible.

[@CherylCold]

Electric cars will continue to outpace the ICE cars but they still have a lot of drawbacks. Out right performance really isn't that important, especially at these figures. I'd rather have a boot, space for my arms, nicely trimmed interior and bad ass engine noise. Electric cars are for sure the way things are going but ICE are so much cooler an experience. When you add weight you lose a lot of enjoyment, Christians philosophy is much more akin to the purist drivers which imo is correct. The Tesla S for instance has a very cheap nasty interior, if I was spending this amount on a luxury family car I would have to be a modern technical geek or eco warrior, even then I would have to argue the environmental benefits. Electric cars still have a long way to go although they are killing everything on the drag strip.

[@lukadjordjevic9690]

But Nikola Tesla had not only electric motors, he also invented, or tried to invent, things that can transport electricity without a cable, through air. And he had things like the induction where you don't need any cable, and this could be the future. Or the Tesla coil which could be also transport electricity and its really working, i have seen it in real life but only for neon-lamps on 3 meters, but it could be. Or a new battery, which can have a lot of power inside of it. You never know what the future is, but i think there will be something new. But you are right that there is a long way to this future.

[@stevegreen7638]

I can tell you've never driven an electric car. I have both and I don't like my ice car anymore. There is NO substitute for the instant torque, it will always feel faster than your ice car. I prefer the electric motor noise now to any motor, after driving an electric car for a while you will feel like you stepped back in time as you step back into your ice car. I have a full size boot, arm space, everything I have in my ice car. Oh and 4000 km of driving costs me less than 1 fill up in my ice suv that gets 600km per tank. My EV is a Leaf, it's faster than my turbocharged suv, up to almost 80km per hour, yeah a Leaf.

[@dunhillsupramk3]

even in drag racing EVs aren't new and they do have limitations to what they can do on a track as well... EVs still need more development that is why all of the big car companies like GM, Toyota, Ford, MB, BMW, Honda is still making cars that use gas engines (its more expensive to make a gas car because there is much more parts to produce)... @steve green yeah instant torque is good and all but on the highway or stuck in traffic that instant torque doesn't matter... also you have a turbo SUV and a Leaf??? talk about jackal and hyde you have going on...

[@CherylCold]

I've driven a Lexus rh450 hybrid, to be honest I wasn't overly impressed, I'm not a big suv fan anyhow but it was a nice enough car . I sat in both a Tesla S and roadster. The roadster was actually not much different to my Lotus Elise, apart from the lack of luggage space. I also have an integrale evo2 chipped and running 1.2 bar, neither of my cars are particularly fast but quick enough to out pace most everyday cars, for me it's all about driving pleasure firstly. I wish I had driven the tesla roadster to get a feeling for an EV sports car, but after driving a friends supercharged elise I was left a little disappointed. in a sports car the addition of weight, even with more power can really take away a lot of balance and driving enjoyment. With regards to the Tesla S, it was nothing short of diabolical for interior comfort and design. the trim was cheap and tacky, seats not up to luxury car standard and dashboard dominated by a horrible huge tablet. On top of this the range is not that great if you want to drive a long distance and theyve introduced charging money at charging points, which works out expensive, as much as if not more than petrol. like I said, benifits for me would be linear superior acceleration, drawbacks lack of refinement, weight, driver envolvement.

[@HAMMAD0213]

rimac is good but koenigsegg is the best!!!

[@justchill4869]

It beat the laferrari in a 1/4 mile drag not a full mile drag it ain't faster lmao

[@ashjackson7]

Any Koenigsegg will absolutely flog a La Ferrari. Add to that even the slowest ones go over 400Km/h. And the Agera RS is the current fastest limited production car in the world.

[@lamborgatti-4783]

Sunnie Dee he said in acceleration

[@ginoasci2876]

Koenigsegg is the winner. If you take a piece of paper and write down what did, the fact is...Koenigsegg is a true pioneer by creating, and inventing new concepts. Combining electric motors with a gas engine and transmission, with insane power, speed, and space for occupants and storage, and added luxury. That's putting your whole life into it. Its everything to one man, and totally new to the world. Rimac, built a car with battery power, and designed software in collaboration with each wheel. Does that make him an supercar/hypercar bulder? I don't want to knock his accomplishments, at the same time it just doesn't put him in the same category with Koenigsegg. If this was the case then Tesla should have been there as well. If they both were given a new task to build a whole new hypercar, brand new to the world....Koenigsegg would come out on top, not by a close shot, but by strides. I know this hurts to hear, but the truth is the truth. Why not give credit to the person that is capable of achieving innovative creations. Why share that spot light with anyone that doesn't deserve it. Plus! Koenigsegg believed in himself and what he was doing so much that in a time where what he was doing wasn't even a thought of. A concept in the mind of only one person that didn't know if anyone wanted it or not, and dedicated his whole life into that idea without any confirmation of success, because it was all new. That's a true pioneer.

[@tonynemcich1756]

What he done is impressive but a hybrid engine isn't a new concept.Your option on innovation is wrong aswell, Rimac makes everything in-house the torque vectoring is unique the fact that Rimac supplies other manufacturers as well as a broad range of products with his equipment is another plus for Rimac.Porche has bought into the company aswell so that shows you there belief and high opion they have of Mate. And if you watch a video with someone going for a test drive in the concept one the sheet acceleration blows there minds.Anyway they are both incredible guys and they are both pushing the boundaries but you can't say this one is better or not as one is developing fully electric technology not just the car and to be honest Rimac is the future.Christian is pushing the boundaries on something that's been around for along time hybrid ATM, so what this isn't unique I bet you'll see Christian going all electric in the future aswell.

[@BetterWarrior]

Rimac is nothing in front of Koenigsegg, it would get fucked if put in track or highway.

[@yondaktaukoktanyasaya8318]

Tesla: left the chat

[@melbrowne3370]

I thought that I would see a half-mile drag race....not 25mins of talking😶

[@novachrono2236]

If this guys would develop cars like this that targets the middle class. would be awesome except they only do it for the 1%.

[@sultanofswingdrift3021]

problem with middle class cars is upfront investment. same reason why Tesla started with small sport coupe and is now slowly moving towards lower price markets. Mate mentions this when he said he wanted to make some parts at volume manufacturer and they asked for too much money-that is cost of tools needed for mass/low price production.

[@s0mar885]

You cant make a car with the best materials and technology and then expect it to be affordable (and they are also handbuilt which is why they cant really be massproduced)

[@Dm0stFin3sT]

Allen TKO They make these million dollar cars to build capital to afford the R&D to make the mass consumer versions. Elon Musk has said this himself about Tesla

[@cutdepiefails6596]

You really should listen to all the talk. The technologies will find a way into the normal cars and Mate, that is only in business for less than 7 years, is already doing a fuck ton, remember Koenigsegg saying that he took 8 years just to make the car? Mate, has a car, a factory and a R&D center (he became a supplier of parts for the automotive industry, mostly batteries (the Regera uses RIMAC batteries) and for a lot of vehicles, electrical bicycles, for example, the wheelchairs, software, a bunch of shit that will be used by other brands. These guys are essential, the targeting of the 1% should be praised because they are the ones testing and funding, experiments, they are the ones eating all the problems and living with the consequences of having a beta car. We will get the evolution of that technology, just not right now, I don't mind at all to be honest. Tesla has the model 3, not an expensive car at all. Hell, even a second-hand model S isn't that expensive today, you can get it for the price of a brand new Honda or a bottom of the range C class.

[@mamoshimamoshian9078]

Sorry But Rimac is much much more Beautiful than Koenigsegg, and I do hope that it will change in future

[@anelalc2795]

Opet tesla rodjen u hrvatskoj

[@justchill4869]

Rimac will never beat koenigsegg lmao they thought they will

[@bob8688]

KOENIGSSEGG REAL SUPERCAR,RIMAC JUST KONCEPT CAR AND ANSAFE CAR,NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.

[@ampm9771]

Haha, just wait until Ferrari, Mclaren, Lamborghini and Porsche decide to go all electric, they'll sweep these lumps of ego under the carpet. He thinks he is smarter than those engineers working for big names.

[@bishnupriyapattnaik5079]

Amir Rad for going big no big names are required bro.....😊

[@greynolds17]

these will soon be big nsmes

[@klimee4699]

@@greynolds17 already are

[@Cigarette_Indonesia]

Koenigsegg is better than rimac

[@hugo-pg5tv]

@Angus Chandler wow the battaries

[@hugo-pg5tv]

@Angus Chandler they only make the batteries

[@gogo8965]

Such a cringy host, but I love cringy stuff so........

[@vip-cw1st]

India ka naam mt khrab kr yr

[@stefanjovanovski6035]

Kako sad nikola tesla iz hrvatske zar nije srbin? 2:39

[@turkishcypriot8013]

electric cars just like radio controlled cars no soul i take pertol cars

[@sonebg91]

Dobro je da se ugledao na Srbina :)

[@ryanmanak4129]

Tesla should buy rimac

[@akalion213]

Why?

[@abdulahiabdala]

Why the fuck would you want that to happen?

[@fireblade3655]

Mate Rimac isnt selling he told once in an interview that he had a investor and the investor tried to screw him and his company over by relocating then. He got rid of the investor sold everything he had and is working alone now only answerable to himself.

[@dunhillsupramk3]

LOL.. with what money?? dude Tesla owe people money, they haven't turn a profit since they started... Rimac is making money by selling components to car manufactures (they don't really want to make cars but be a big name OEM for other car companies sort of like Bosh or Brembo or Recaro)

[@ryanmanak4129]

dunhillsupramk3 Seriously. Isn't tesla worth 20 something billion dollars.

[@Drednaught13]

18:23 - And our AWD car is faster than RWN car... Hmmm... OK. More power, more torque, nearly identical wet weight (we all know Ferrari lies about this specific figure in any their car for like 30 years now) and probably more superior suspension. That was obvious! It's just simple [racing] science! Come on Mate your better than this [cheap marketing trick]! Ferrari are still in business because some people like to buy something with their badge, not because they are performing anywhere (maybe sometimes somewhere idn). It's interesting he mentions them in nearly every public discussion he appears!? It is cheap... But I still like his ideas and wish him luck.