Mayhem! Controversy Rocks the Semi-Final! | SawBlaze vs. Tantrum | BattleBots

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It's Robot Fighting Time! SPOILER ALERT for the latest BattleBots Champions II episode! In a pivotal semi-final match, an unexpected twist paired with a time dispute leaves fans in disbelief. Was it a true KO or a last-second reprieve? Did the judges get it right? Share your verdict in the comments! #BattleBots #ClockGate"
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In pairs, bot inventors go head-to-head inside the perilous and bullet-proof BattleBot arena, with the aim of destroying or completely disabling their opponent’s machine.
During each episode, we meet the creators behind these awesome machines. From amateurs and super-smart technology students to seasoned professionals who have dedicated their lives to creating the ultimate fighting robot, find out what drives these charismatic inventors, and how they turn their visions into supreme battling robots.
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@DDDHHytp1
@DDDHHytp1 10 ай бұрын
The perfect example of why you should not attack a fallen bot
@Did_LeCouz
@Did_LeCouz 10 ай бұрын
Exactly big mistake
@tacobell2009
@tacobell2009 10 ай бұрын
Their hubris almost got the better of them. Hopefully they'll think twice before taking that risk in the future
@beatrixnino461
@beatrixnino461 8 ай бұрын
Ko
@sleepydoppy8516
@sleepydoppy8516 5 ай бұрын
Take the win and go home
@GoofBallGuru
@GoofBallGuru 4 ай бұрын
And the other team was so happy as if their bot delivered the KO lol
@meoka2368
@meoka2368 10 ай бұрын
There's two things I really like about SawBlaze. First, the combination of a hammer and a spinner. Can do either role, so even if one function of it stops working, the other function can keep going. Also allows for more types of attacks. Second is the configurability of the front. A lot of bots have had small adjustments for matches, but nothing as notable as SawBlaze. It's a great design.
@vibinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
@vibinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn 10 ай бұрын
fight starts at 3:18
@Makeybussines
@Makeybussines 10 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@vibinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
@vibinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn 10 ай бұрын
@@Makeybussines no problem!
@ThatOpalGuy
@ThatOpalGuy 10 ай бұрын
watch the entire video.
@ThatOpalGuy
@ThatOpalGuy 10 ай бұрын
even better: Sawblaze wins...no need to even watch now.
@vibinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
@vibinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn 10 ай бұрын
@@ThatOpalGuy your angry over timestamps?
@FullmoonEffects89
@FullmoonEffects89 10 ай бұрын
Imagine you KO someone in a boxing match and you still lose.
@markdswan
@markdswan 10 ай бұрын
More like "Imagine someone splitting your lip open and then knocking themselves out and you still lose."
@Jimmy_Pedraza36
@Jimmy_Pedraza36 9 ай бұрын
Everyone is hung up on the decision but honestly the refs and or judges SHOULD have the ability to override a self inflicted "knockout" by technicality in cases like this where the fight is already clearly over and decided in favor of the superior battle bot based on points from damage and control. Especially if the match is in the last few seconds of the match. I see nothing wrong with this win situation, they just need to do a better job of writing the rules and win conditions . If anything the judge should have did a better job by starting the count down on Tantrum when immobilized so that that last self inflicted hit wouldn't have happened in the first place.
@FullmoonEffects89
@FullmoonEffects89 9 ай бұрын
@@Jimmy_Pedraza36 compare it to a race. If you are in first place for the first 99 laps but crashed on the last lap and couldnt make it to the finish. Do you win?
@Jimmy_Pedraza36
@Jimmy_Pedraza36 9 ай бұрын
@@FullmoonEffects89 okay, but it's not a race, races are not dictated by a point system, nor do they go to a judge's decision, that's a terribly false equivalency.
@nitrogen45
@nitrogen45 3 ай бұрын
Tantrum didn't land the K.O., the floor did.
@yohanaratri7617
@yohanaratri7617 10 ай бұрын
The referee slowed down the moment of countdown for sawblaze, maybe it should be better for battlebots to utilize real time stopwatch to make the countdown time to be more precise
@anorouch
@anorouch 10 ай бұрын
How about a giant noisy LED sign with a buzzer. Then the ref pushes one button to start the countdown, and the same button to stop it.
@codster9
@codster9 8 ай бұрын
Yeah. They need an actual countdown clock now. Also perhaps amend the rules to say that if a knockout countdown begins within the final 10 seconds, the battle continues until the knockout countdown concludes or the bot(s) regain control and movement.
@haydendegrow945
@haydendegrow945 10 ай бұрын
The fight was intense! But I also know that the ref started his countdown right BEFORE the 10 second mark. It was only a miscount on the ref's part that made this so close. I say that Tantrum should have appealed the call of a judge's decision and not a K.O. due to that. Even the replays show the countdown ahead of the clock right up until the 1 second mark. I think Tantrum deserved to go to the finals and not Sawblaze.
@spunn_co
@spunn_co 10 ай бұрын
ya it was at 14 secs
@tacobell2009
@tacobell2009 10 ай бұрын
​@@spunn_co It was ~10.5 seconds. At 6:16 you can clearly see the clock is at 11 seconds when he starts counting and it immediately turns over to 10. He counts from 10 to 1 and then says "knock out" which accounts for the last half second and the buzzer rings at the same time. They pulled up the clock at 14 seconds, but he didn't start counting until 11 and it was about to turn over to 10.
@Jimmy_Pedraza36
@Jimmy_Pedraza36 9 ай бұрын
Everyone is hung up on the decision but honestly the refs and or judges SHOULD have the ability to override a self inflicted "knockout" by technicality in cases like this where the fight is already clearly over and decided in favor of the superior battle bot based on points from damage and control. Especially if the match is in the last few seconds of the match. I see nothing wrong with this win situation, they just need to do a better job of writing the rules and win conditions . If anything the judge should have did a better job by starting the count down on Tantrum when immobilized so that that last self inflicted hit wouldn't have happened in the first place.
@whatupjack1019
@whatupjack1019 10 ай бұрын
I'm not upset that sawblaze won but it is pretty upsetting the countdown didn't start sooner. Tantrum should have won by knockout, but I do also think sawblaze deserved it. I have very mixed feelings
@SecretWalrus99
@SecretWalrus99 10 ай бұрын
i agree. if tantrum won it would’ve been because Sawblaze took itself out which would’ve been a hollow victory. but people are mad Sawblaze won because the ref doesn’t have a timer or stopwatch but would’ve won if they just barely moved the last 10 seconds anyway. i think this at least needs to lead to a rule change or giving refs better tools
@Cyberguy42
@Cyberguy42 10 ай бұрын
In addition to a timer, they need objective, quantitative criteria for when the knockout countdown starts. The inconsistency is frustrating
@Jimmy_Pedraza36
@Jimmy_Pedraza36 9 ай бұрын
Everyone is hung up on the decision but honestly the refs and or judges SHOULD have the ability to override a self inflicted "knockout" by technicality in cases like this where the fight is already clearly over and decided in favor of the superior battle bot based on points from damage and control. Especially if the match is in the last few seconds of the match. I see nothing wrong with this win situation, they just need to do a better job of writing the rules and win conditions . If anything the judge should have did a better job by starting the count down on Tantrum when immobilized so that that last self inflicted hit wouldn't have happened in the first place.
@alangerhard7118
@alangerhard7118 10 ай бұрын
Always go for the hit. Hit until you can't anymore, or someone tells you to stop.
@Rayandemo
@Rayandemo Ай бұрын
Sawblaze has a show He helps opponents to switch their system
@metal--babble346
@metal--babble346 3 ай бұрын
no extra special love for Tantrum this time. That was a beatdown
@damiana5268
@damiana5268 7 ай бұрын
Only controversy I see is this being a split decision lol. The karma swing was an amazing series of events. Sawblaze getting karma'd for taking a shot at an immobile bot and self flipping. Quickly followed by tantrum getting karma'd for taking the undeserved knockout only for Sawblaze to be saved by the bell. I did not see that coming at all, a great rollercoaster lol
@mercedesjacevedosilva9146
@mercedesjacevedosilva9146 8 ай бұрын
1. Tantrum 2. HexaStinky
@normfranell9158
@normfranell9158 6 ай бұрын
there was 12 seconds on the clock when the count started... ref was paid
@cheythompson740
@cheythompson740 10 ай бұрын
Two amazing teams!
@ElizabethDeyaniraRamosSa-vd7tc
@ElizabethDeyaniraRamosSa-vd7tc 5 ай бұрын
Excelente video y muy útil e informativo
@DavidMacKayE
@DavidMacKayE 10 ай бұрын
I agree with the outcome.
@BADISkettu
@BADISkettu 10 ай бұрын
BRO they need to check if any of the bots work i nthe end. This is so dumb that one of them is basically fully functional and other one is not, and the broken one still wins.
@Sky-qd2mf
@Sky-qd2mf 10 ай бұрын
Most insane and exhilarating match yet
@Matticus289
@Matticus289 10 ай бұрын
If I was tantrum and got the win, I'd feel like it was an undeserved win on a fluke. Sawblaze was clearly the better bot
@awataraz
@awataraz 10 ай бұрын
except it has managed to self-incapacitate itself just by hitting the floor and then couldn't recover from its position anymore (regardless of the time available)... so to put it mildly it isn't so much better bot, honestly how on earth would it be any better if it can't even recover from an upside down position?! To me that seems to be a major design flaw in this scene... I have to admit that It seemed to be more capable for the vast majority (2min 31sec) of the round, right until it turned out to be totally incapable in a flipped over position. Could really do anything to defend itself.
@Dynamic_JP
@Dynamic_JP 10 ай бұрын
There was a delay in starting the KO countdown. Team Tantrum was robbed here. Sawblaze should have been KO'd.
@gggamer3851
@gggamer3851 10 ай бұрын
Ko was after the time expired, therfore its a judge decision. A delay before the count is in the rules as it gives the driver time to prove it can move, and not simply parked.
@nicholasfarrell5981
@nicholasfarrell5981 10 ай бұрын
​@gggamer3851 the ref was slow-counting, the timer was at 11s when he started.
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler
@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler 10 ай бұрын
BattleBots officially gone pro wrestling🎉
@TheRocco96
@TheRocco96 10 ай бұрын
Scripted reality show.
@travelguide1
@travelguide1 9 ай бұрын
go sawblaze
@YovyRoman-uq2if
@YovyRoman-uq2if 6 ай бұрын
👏👏
@Mr.TankmanReal
@Mr.TankmanReal 10 ай бұрын
That shouldn’t have been a judge’s decision tantrum had won by K.O because sawblaze couldn’t self right
@Karol-cj9fy
@Karol-cj9fy 10 ай бұрын
I always felt like they wait way too long to start the countdown... Not to mention that here the referee's seconds were longer than the end of match countdown seconds. They were immobilzed for like 15 seconds at least. Anyways happy to see both teams in good spirits about this.
@takoza5396
@takoza5396 10 ай бұрын
good fight, the best bot won
@jakebp5781
@jakebp5781 10 ай бұрын
No say no he was ko
@markdowse3572
@markdowse3572 10 ай бұрын
Clearly a TKO. M 🦘🏏😎
@Turboy65
@Turboy65 10 ай бұрын
The best part of this match is the true sportsmanship and good humor shared between the two teams.
@emp100k
@emp100k 10 ай бұрын
Judge started the 10 count at like 13 seconds, how does that then not end before the buzzer?
@edwardhoulihan4917
@edwardhoulihan4917 10 ай бұрын
It was actually at about 10.5 seconds
@JoshuaCamacho09
@JoshuaCamacho09 10 ай бұрын
That's Vegas showbiz for ya.
@Journeyman.71
@Journeyman.71 8 ай бұрын
@@edwardhoulihan4917 Which still should have ended before :00! And, in fact, the ref says "one" as the clock reads :01!
@jahterminatedlmao5473
@jahterminatedlmao5473 3 ай бұрын
bro really did "1 mississippi, 2 mississippi" in his head
@djstr0b3
@djstr0b3 2 ай бұрын
It's probably due to editing multiple live footages
@Koopa126
@Koopa126 10 ай бұрын
Words can't describe how intense this was. This was the first time in the history of Battlebots that the buzzer sounded right before the knockout.
@1dustbranch111
@1dustbranch111 5 ай бұрын
Yeah that was a interesting situation
@UnpatternedGarbage
@UnpatternedGarbage 2 ай бұрын
It shouldn't have ended that way. You can clearly hear that the ref's countout started just before there was 10 seconds left on the clock, and that he slowed it down so that it wouldn't finish before it ran down to 0. Tantrum was cheated out of this match.
@bryansummers3219
@bryansummers3219 10 ай бұрын
Sawblaze is flipped and stops moving at 5:57 Ref says "gotta see movement in 5 seconds" at 6:07 Ref starts countdown at 6:16 with slightly more than 10 seconds left on clock. I think all that matters is when the countdown started. This is obliviously "more art than science", but I think most people would agree that a bot should only be saved from being counted out if there was truly less than 10 seconds remaining at the start of the countdown. Tantrum (despite their name) handled the situation with extreme grace. Very impressive and classy!
@gluonpa6878
@gluonpa6878 2 ай бұрын
This is a robbery... There should be at the very least a rule that say that if it critically matters, the countdown by the clock should overrule the referee. In this case, judge would have agreed that the countdown stated with a little more than 10 seconds and thus this is a KO.
@cleitonfelipe2092
@cleitonfelipe2092 10 ай бұрын
First the Minotaur fight and now this. Sawblaze clearly was knocked out before the timer. More improvements to the rules and technicality of judges must be made.
@HAHA.GoodMeme
@HAHA.GoodMeme 10 ай бұрын
Two suggestions for improvement: 1. refs use stopwatches 2. if disabled at end of fight and opponent is not, you lose.
@alconaft4343
@alconaft4343 10 ай бұрын
or they can extend time of the fight till the KO count stops.
@NWLee
@NWLee 10 ай бұрын
SawBlaze was slowly moving...
@civilianarc9624
@civilianarc9624 10 ай бұрын
​@@NWLeenot enough movement....
@duncanbones
@duncanbones 10 ай бұрын
@@civilianarc9624it was changed a year or two ago. ANY movement is enough to prevent the count from starting. Hence why crabwalking is legal.
@jordhan1
@jordhan1 10 ай бұрын
@@duncanbones okay but obviously it wasnt enough movement still which is why sawblaze was being counted out
@Killer_Draco
@Killer_Draco 10 ай бұрын
Y'know, the KO/Countdown controversy aside... I was actually impressed at how differently this fight went from Sawblaze vs Tantrum's last match. Back then, Tantrum was able to get under Sawblaze at will, but this time Sawblaze pretty much dictated the the pace of the fight. That's how you improve for a rematch.
@econecoff1725
@econecoff1725 10 ай бұрын
Why did Tantrum lose the ground game this time? Sawblaze often brags their forks are so sharp they scrape paint off the arena logo. Should Tantrum have more forks next time? Or just somehow rework existing set?
@SnowTerebi
@SnowTerebi 10 ай бұрын
I think longer fork also helps.
@Journeyman.71
@Journeyman.71 8 ай бұрын
I call BS!! SawBlaze was on his back, unable to self-right, for more than 15 seconds before the ref even started the count! And what is a 10-count? Is it the actual count from 10 to 1? Or does the count INCLUDE the "KNOCKOUT!" declaration? Because the ref says "one" as the clock hit :01! It's at :00 that he shouts "KNOCKOUT!"
@tideofthetoucans9574
@tideofthetoucans9574 10 ай бұрын
I like sawblaze but it was immobile for almost 30 seconds. I would feel very cheated if I was part of the tantrum team. It also infuriates me when the ref can’t actually judge how long each second is hahaha, they need to use a timer instead.
@DustinHasVideos
@DustinHasVideos 10 ай бұрын
The rule is 10 seconds to move or you get a 10 second time out. So you have 20 seconds for a ko. Historically the judges are extremely accurate, but it can be deceptive because tv edits. Time can be added or removed when changing camera angles. So the competition does well, but tv spices it up
@ianfeuerhake1859
@ianfeuerhake1859 10 ай бұрын
If you enjoy the show, you gotta respect the judges. It’s hard to tell what really happened on a taped show. If there is an issue with the accuracy of KO counts, that’s something they could change for next season
@DustinHasVideos
@DustinHasVideos 10 ай бұрын
@@ianfeuerhake1859 at its core this is a goofy sport (not insulting it because I’m a huge fan who has traveled to watch it live). I’m impressed how the refs do way better than boxing or mma. The number of controversies from the judges is minimal in frequency and impact
@ryanamburgy2791
@ryanamburgy2791 10 ай бұрын
Maybe because we didn’t want to see endgame vs tantrum part 6
@ianfeuerhake1859
@ianfeuerhake1859 10 ай бұрын
@@DustinHasVideos yeah, but people got all bent out of shape over that Tantrum/Hydra fight
@richardschneider4775
@richardschneider4775 10 ай бұрын
It looked like they had him whupped and the ending a literal UPSET............I like the mutual respect and sportsmanly greetings shown at the end of the fight. great show this is how it should be a hair rising ending each bout.
@amyshaw893
@amyshaw893 3 ай бұрын
Sawblaze was upside down and immobile before 25 seconds. The ref started the 10 second countdown at 13 seconds. In no universe should sawblaze have won
@12packadayhabit
@12packadayhabit 10 ай бұрын
BS... the countdown ended before the clock.. he just said knockout after. BB has Sloppy rules.
@jamesmolloy5350
@jamesmolloy5350 10 ай бұрын
Man you can see Tantrum's Alex absolutely seething behind that smile 😅😅
@TheInsultInvestor
@TheInsultInvestor 10 ай бұрын
they got ripped off this is bs disliked
@Davidofsmeg
@Davidofsmeg 10 ай бұрын
I mean he wasn't, they were literally joking about the whole thing afterwards.
@xoxksa
@xoxksa 10 ай бұрын
They need a clear rule on the amount of time a bot is immobilized before the countdown starts. There's no way the refs could fix this in replay because the start time for the countdown is discretionary.
@wristofkings
@wristofkings 10 ай бұрын
A solid fight with a really bizarre and frankly hilarious ending. Despite the botched countout by the ref I think the judges decision was more or less correct, Sawblaze definitely had the edge in all three categories despite Tantrum staying scrappy for most of the match. I don't think anyone wanted to see Tantrum lose to End Game for the fourth time in a row, nor a Sawblaze loss to a very uncharacteristic mistake after having its opponent dead to rights. At least both teams had a good sense of humor about it--the winner annoucement post-fight apparently required multiple takes because no one could keep a straight face.
@xKatjaxPurrsx
@xKatjaxPurrsx 10 ай бұрын
you know.. i feel like what would really decrease the number of JDs required would be.. to just make the fights longer. 4 minutes instead of 3. it'd only increase the maximum length of a fight by 33% but it'd be an extra minute after the first 3 minutes of pounding so i bet the chance of KOs would increase exponentially and they'd only have to cut a few minutes of fluff out of each episode to accommodate it. Like literally the time used to hype and present a JD could instead be more fight time leading to KOs.
@Nitryl44
@Nitryl44 10 ай бұрын
Yep, total BS... Ref countdown was clearly slower than it should, plus he said knockout so...
@JeffHendricks
@JeffHendricks 10 ай бұрын
I think the decision was fine. But it doesn't matter how it went, because we all know Tantrum wasn't going to take out End Game either.
@WatermelonNoel
@WatermelonNoel 10 ай бұрын
I mean, every time they’ve fought End Game they’ve done better, if they drive it better they definitely have a shot, especially given how much they controlled End Game in their 3rd encounter.
@codered9472
@codered9472 10 ай бұрын
@@WatermelonNoelThat is true, but given Tantrum’s performance in this fight (And how Tantrum’s armor was literally split open) I don’t think they would’ve pulled it off.
@notimportant768
@notimportant768 10 ай бұрын
​@@codered9472sawblaze and endgames groundgame are very different beasts, as is their driving especially since endgame has to keep their spinner up.
@OverlordZeroULTIMA
@OverlordZeroULTIMA 5 ай бұрын
I really want Tantrum to have that win over End Game. Just so they can say they did it finally.
@LindenJphnson
@LindenJphnson 4 ай бұрын
they immobilized them self the re for they lost ,tantrum was clearly still mobile.
@mobilegamingmore423
@mobilegamingmore423 10 ай бұрын
Disgusting how the refery didn't honored the ko ! Lately it's been alot of favoritism for some bots! This show is getting bad
@hawaiidkw1
@hawaiidkw1 10 ай бұрын
I've always thought that the referee should have the discretion to declare a "technical knockout" in case one bot was clearly finished even if the count didn't go all the way to zero. I hate "saved by the bell" being a thing. If you can't save yourself, you lose, simple as that. Regardless, I doubt this situation is ever going to come up frequently enough to spur anyone with the power to change the rule to do so. I do believe that Sawblaze matches up better against End Game than Tantrum, so I guess it worked out in the end.
@daveyoung7518
@daveyoung7518 10 ай бұрын
Motionless for 12 seconds before the countdown starts. Then the countdown is slower than the clock. Looks rigged.
@ColeslawAndTheBarangoat
@ColeslawAndTheBarangoat 10 ай бұрын
Hang tight, conspiracy theorists! I'm working on a video as we speak that's gonna have a lot of stats and evidence that will surprise you. So before you start claiming "Tantrum was cheated", or "SawBlaze has special treatment", blah blah blah....just wait ;)
@the_matad0r342
@the_matad0r342 4 ай бұрын
I feel like Jameson should have said it was Tantrum’s victory, even if it didn’t mean a difference in the ref’s decision.
@Fishman7523
@Fishman7523 10 ай бұрын
Sawblaze was immobilized at around 28 seconds left, so there’s no way they shouldn’t have been counted out, but then again, keep in mind this is a show they’re putting on. I wouldn’t put it past the ref and the judges to fudge the rules a little bit just to create some drama, for the story’s sake.a
@Cobrax_x
@Cobrax_x 10 ай бұрын
Keep in mind that the editing could have made it seem longer than it was, when it cuts to the reactions probably added time in the video
@Fishman7523
@Fishman7523 10 ай бұрын
@@Cobrax_x no I mean the timer on the screen actually said 14 seconds and sawblaze was entirely immobile, and although you might be correct about the editing, they were immobile for a considerable time before that too :/
@GloryBlazer
@GloryBlazer 10 ай бұрын
@@Fishman7523 I saw somewhere that it's 10 seconds before countdown and then another 10, so 14seconds+ is still very possible to not be enough time to get KO'd/ruled out.
@mr9c1driver59
@mr9c1driver59 10 ай бұрын
Sawblaze got greedy and messed up. Had Tantrum sitting there dead and he had to hit him one more time instead of walking away with the win.
@joneichelberg6432
@joneichelberg6432 10 ай бұрын
Tantrum got ripped off
@foulmouth359
@foulmouth359 10 ай бұрын
They should have a second digital screen for the countdown time.
@JoshuaWillis89
@JoshuaWillis89 9 ай бұрын
This decision is ridiculous. SawBlaze was incapacitated the last 28 seconds of the match.
@WillMaletic
@WillMaletic 6 ай бұрын
So there’s two other categories. Also on damage, sawblaze had working drive but not a working weapon. Tantrum had the wedge and had some damage to the drive. While Tantrum wins Damage it’s not by as much as you might think. Also with the other categories, Sawbaze won as it controlled the match for longer than Tantrum did.
@AsheCrow
@AsheCrow 10 ай бұрын
So that's how the referee manages to last longer in bed 😂😂😂
@ColeSATurner
@ColeSATurner 2 ай бұрын
I would feel cheated if I was on Tantrum's team. Sawblade was immobile for 30 seconds. Although, this is the one time where I'm glad it happened, as it would've been a disaster to see them move onto the finals after that performance. These are the similar incidents that gave us some horrendous winners or finalists in the past and that's including Tantrum's win in season 6. I'm glad SawBlade didn't win it all though after this controversy similar to Witch Doctor's in the same finals as Tantrum's.
@lunamelody2025
@lunamelody2025 10 ай бұрын
Very intense brawl! The timing of the count is what saved SawBlaze, but I personally feel like the refs shouldn't immediately say KO just less than a second after they say 1. Take for example in KOB, when the refs do the final second of the count, they do a small pause after saying 10 and then do an X with their arms, which would be a full second to show the 10 second count is over. Plus, I think something some of us saw that probably warranted the JD, was the fact SawBlaze showed some movement / slight crab walking nearing the end of the 10 count, so therefore the 10 count should've been paused.
@Did_LeCouz
@Did_LeCouz 10 ай бұрын
Dont think so
@lunamelody2025
@lunamelody2025 10 ай бұрын
@@Did_LeCouz About what? SawBlaze's small movement or a signal to show a KO?
@Arkios64
@Arkios64 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, for me the most controversial part should be that the judges somehow had a split decision on this fight. It's simple: if the rules say SawBlaze wasn't knocked out, it wasn't. Change the rules in the future if it comes to it, but for this fight that is definitive. The fight was absolutely won on all fronts by SawBlaze, seeing a split here means the judges are influenced strongly by external factors, that aren't part of the point system they are supposed to be using.
@tfk_001
@tfk_001 10 ай бұрын
Sawblaze undeniably had more points but sawblaze was also undeniably KO'd. Judges dont judge KOs so judges should have said sawblaze, but refs should have counted sawblaze out faster
@duncanbones
@duncanbones 10 ай бұрын
The judges on this show have to be some of the most inconsistent, unfair, and downright moronic in the history of competitions. The rules have been getting a bit better but the judges just do what they want and vote for they’re favorite most the time. If you want a fair fight in battlebots then make sure it doesn’t go to the judges.
@PsychoPatrickFTW
@PsychoPatrickFTW 10 ай бұрын
Honestly I'm SHOCKED it wasn't judge Lisa as the outlier. She often has the goofiest calls I've ever seen
@Phoenixgasm
@Phoenixgasm 10 ай бұрын
agreed 100%
@JoshuaWillis89
@JoshuaWillis89 9 ай бұрын
The ref started the countdown with more than 10 seconds left on the clock. How do the judges possibly rationalize that somehow it took more than 10 seconds for a 10 second countdown? SawBlaze was KOed, period.
@MoHawkAnakin
@MoHawkAnakin 10 ай бұрын
Question, can anyone help me remember the title of an old game? It was on the website Mini Clip. It was an online battle bots game where you could make your own bots and battle others. I remember the map was on top of a roof of a building. This was over 10 years ago it’s an old game. I remember playing it when I was young and loved it so much but for years I’ve never been able to find that game again. Thought this would be a good place to ask lol. 😂
@mayurdhamale4583
@mayurdhamale4583 3 ай бұрын
Sawblaze had so many opportunities to use that hammer saw, but didn't. Nevertheless, they deserved the win as Tantrum hardly did any damage
@Redd_Meneses
@Redd_Meneses 10 ай бұрын
This fight made my anxiety go 📈📈 But my god I have never been crazy over this. Sawblaze was my goated bot all time and I was so SO happy and in tears when it won the Giant Nut 🔥
@metal--babble346
@metal--babble346 3 ай бұрын
Tantrum got smacked around. That's what they get for running like cowards
@js0988
@js0988 3 ай бұрын
Why place a spinner where it's not going to hit anything?????? Or why make a spinner that will do no damage to anything????
@DrSmugface
@DrSmugface 10 ай бұрын
if not for the obvious KO sawblaze definetly would have won .. but it didnt sawblaze winning by beeing KO at the end ? sorry but thats just bad
@Enterthedarkness23
@Enterthedarkness23 10 ай бұрын
If the timer and countdown was as close as the video made it out to be, how come it was edited with 13 secs left and the countdown already started? Are we just fabricating drama at this point?
@VarietyZen
@VarietyZen 10 ай бұрын
I mean, the new rules do dictate that if a bot is still “moving” then the match will not end. In MY eyes, maybe not in others’, Sawblaze was still “moving”.
@phantominway
@phantominway 4 ай бұрын
How? It was fully still
@WillMaletic
@WillMaletic 10 ай бұрын
I guess it’s time for tantrum to be handed a controversial loss (hydra)
@jonathanf2392
@jonathanf2392 10 ай бұрын
I was on the edge of my seat this entire fight cause I really wanted to see tantrum win. This rematch was so awesome, 3 minute action packed fight, and tantrum got some nice hits in near the end which made me jump and cheer. That ending was so chaotic, something we have never seen (giving me similar vibes to beta vs nightmare), but I think it was fair to go the the judges and sawblaze rightfully won. At least tantrum had a strong loss here, I'm not disappointed at all. Crazy to see half of tantrum face split apart 10:10 did the tantrum team said they will appeal?
@jamesmolloy5350
@jamesmolloy5350 10 ай бұрын
Rule change is definitely needed, how can a bot be immobile and unrecoverable at the end of the 3 minutes, and still win... also an actual stopwatch would definitely make things much fairer than judges and refs arbitrarily deciding how long 10 seconds is
@ryanamburgy2791
@ryanamburgy2791 10 ай бұрын
I mean sawblaze dominated the entire fight and then virtually koed itself….tantrum did nothing
@jamesmolloy5350
@jamesmolloy5350 10 ай бұрын
@ryanamburgy2791 and yet, it was koed, it would have lost if it was a second earlier.
@Linkathon
@Linkathon 10 ай бұрын
@@jamesmolloy5350Yes, but that’s not how fights are scored.
@studious_yt97
@studious_yt97 10 ай бұрын
Yeah a fight is scored based on the performance throughout the entire fight, not just the ending.
@gianluca.g
@gianluca.g 10 ай бұрын
That's irrelevant because it's still not well defined when a ref should start the countdown for an incapacitated bot. A slow or fast or exact countdown won't solve this underlying issue.
@adilsonnj
@adilsonnj 10 ай бұрын
Are you kidding me? This was the most unlikely turnaround and victory of all in Battlebots.
@DDDHHytp1
@DDDHHytp1 10 ай бұрын
It was clearly the fault of the judge, he started counting very late when it was clear that he could not move. Although it was unfair since the other bot didn't do anything, but at least he didn't stay still.
@HazukiTheWitchy
@HazukiTheWitchy 10 ай бұрын
Tantruk should go with that same wedge from S5
@realbadger
@realbadger 10 ай бұрын
If Sawblaze had just left Tantrum there at the end, fine; but he re-engaged, feel over, couldn't self right, and sure, the buzzer kicked in like half a second at the end of the count, Sawblaze was KO'd. This was a monumentally wrongful decision.
@JetwashF8TheHuntingGamer
@JetwashF8TheHuntingGamer 3 ай бұрын
this episode is virtue signaling at its finest
@mercedesjacevedosilva9146
@mercedesjacevedosilva9146 10 ай бұрын
In BattleBots Bounty Hunters Season 3 (2022)
@JeReMyIsMeNoTyOu
@JeReMyIsMeNoTyOu 3 ай бұрын
BS, Tantrum got robbed.
@lansx42
@lansx42 10 ай бұрын
Save by the bell .. but Sawblaze deserves the win .. Anyway .. both teams do enjoy the game
@stormtrooper2170
@stormtrooper2170 10 ай бұрын
Truely save by the bell..👈🤭 Sawblaze: WOW..!
@vanillajack5925
@vanillajack5925 10 ай бұрын
Saved by the ref's slow countdown.
@LindenJphnson
@LindenJphnson 4 ай бұрын
should have gone to tantrum.
@kurtreznor
@kurtreznor 10 ай бұрын
Wow, my feelings on this are all over the place. Sawblaze deserved the win based on most of that fight. BUT many fights do come down to a single shot KO, so a Tantrum win is all good. The problem (and I have felt this way for a long time, it just usually doesn't affect the outcome) is that the red count-out is always too delayed. The refs either need to be quicker to start count-out (don't ask for movement for 10+ seconds, just start counting and they have a 10 count to get moving) and/or stop the fight clock during a count.
@KangasKong9944
@KangasKong9944 10 ай бұрын
I think I remember reading in the rules that the refs have to do a silent count in their head after giving the warning to see movement before they count out loud
@iamamaresh
@iamamaresh 10 ай бұрын
Why split decision in a knockout
@pts9250
@pts9250 10 ай бұрын
Haven't seen minotaur lately...what happened?
@GloryBlazer
@GloryBlazer 10 ай бұрын
This is controversial to say the least, what is questionable about it for me is that the winning bot was immobile. Ignoring the whole countdown thing, I would assume the last bot capable of movement should win, considering the whole point of fights is to be the last one standing. But there is nuance in it and SawBlaze definitely was winning most of the time so what do I know
@SpartacusColo
@SpartacusColo Ай бұрын
The ref started his count immediately BEFORE the clock hit ten. SawBlaze was immobilized well before the ten second count down. The judges should stick with objective truth of who won: This was a knockout win for Tantrum. Cheap win, but hey...
@whirlymurley3974
@whirlymurley3974 10 ай бұрын
the 10 count started on 11 seconds...
@Techman1969
@Techman1969 10 ай бұрын
Tantrum clearly won that, saw blade got counted out ,that’s BS😡😡😡
@Spidehman
@Spidehman 10 ай бұрын
So when did Tantrum win? Was it when it got thrown onto the spinners, got its top armour ripped off, got thrown onto the spinners again, or got its face ripped off? Sawblaze controlled that fight til it KO'd itself. Plus the buzzer to end the round went off a good portion of a second before the ref called KO. You could see him hurrying his count towards the end too. Yes, if Tantrum had one more second they'd have been finalists, but as events unfolded it was handled exactly how it should have been. I'm mostly just surprised it wasn't a unanimous decision by judges.
@Techman1969
@Techman1969 10 ай бұрын
@@Spidehman I guess I didn’t catch the clock running out .I thought sawblade got KO’d. Fun to watch🇺🇸🦅
@Spidehman
@Spidehman 10 ай бұрын
Oh absolutely, it was a fun match to watch.@@Techman1969
@RandoniumTJ
@RandoniumTJ 10 ай бұрын
I knew this was about to happen any day, and yeah it finally happened... And yes it needed to happen...
@STAG162
@STAG162 2 ай бұрын
if this was two guys having an argument, then one has the 'last word' with a self-inflicted uppercut.
@AlmostEthical
@AlmostEthical 10 ай бұрын
Sawblaze was completely dominant during the entire fight. Tantrum managed two decent shots. Jamison's final hit reminded me of Tombstone's unnecessary final hit on Bronco in WCI, which knocked out its guts and may have even cost Ray the final. Not sure of the rules but you'd think that if Tantrum appealed, then it would be clear that the ref waited a long time to start counting. Still, this probably made for a more even final.
@Jimmy_Pedraza36
@Jimmy_Pedraza36 9 ай бұрын
Everyone is hung up on the decision but honestly the refs and or judges SHOULD have the ability to override a self inflicted "knockout" by technicality in cases like this where the fight is already clearly over and decided in favor of the superior battle bot based on points from damage and control. Especially if the match is in the last few seconds of the match. I see nothing wrong with this win situation, they just need to do a better job of writing the rules and win conditions . If anything the judge should have did a better job by starting the count down on Tantrum when immobilized so that that last self inflicted hit wouldn't have happened in the first place.
@timyassa4343
@timyassa4343 11 күн бұрын
How was this controversial. The match ended before the knock out was called...
@gluonpa6878
@gluonpa6878 2 ай бұрын
This is a robbery... There should be at the very least a rule that say that if it critically matters, the countdown by the clock should overrule the referee. In this case, judge would have agreed that the countdown stated with a little more than 10 seconds and thus this is a KO.
@TheHrb1234
@TheHrb1234 10 ай бұрын
Seriously why did the ref not start counting like 10 seconds earlier? Its pretty clear to everyone its immobilized at that point. I mean sawblaze won the fight, but they lost the war and shouldnt be going through.
@Ton300
@Ton300 10 ай бұрын
Deliberately started the count late. Seen others getting the count a lot sooner
@46993-r
@46993-r 4 ай бұрын
Tantrum has one of the best drivers. You never see such perfect purposeful maneuvers from other bots like you do with Tantrum. The judges chose correctly but Tantrum still has one of the best drivers.
@kiloftd
@kiloftd 10 ай бұрын
tantrum was unable to move and only regained mobility because sawblaze bumped it. sawblaze probably should have been counted out sooner, but the fight was theirs.
@_JimboSlice
@_JimboSlice 10 ай бұрын
11:51 "putting up a da** good fight? Did she watch the same battle i did? Minus about 10 seconds of the fight, they got chased and battered pretty much the whole fight
@rof8200
@rof8200 2 ай бұрын
The teams were focused but had really good sportsmanship unlike some of the commentators here😂
@DougFresh
@DougFresh 10 ай бұрын
lol... dang..disapointment, anyone else think Alex is ripped... slow blinker
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