Battlefield still has no competition...

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jackfrags

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@InternetShark
@InternetShark 8 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Jack didn't bring up World War 3. Its a failure, but it attempted to do battlefield
@aboveaveragebayleaf9216
@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 8 ай бұрын
It was fun, but honestly a hassle to update with the peer to peer system. It tended to be pretty slow
@xmesaj2
@xmesaj2 8 ай бұрын
Wasted potential due to it's lack of identity. First they charged money for purchasing the beta, then after a year they made it free and yet again they are reworking it because they don't have idea what direction the game should be going, for the 3rd time or more... lost all hopes, too much crap - bugs, dead matchmaking, poor performance. Not even worth mentioning anymore when you got game like Battlebit around
@edyslavico3761
@edyslavico3761 8 ай бұрын
I played it and the game itself is good. Gunplay, vehicles, maps, everything. What killed it is poor management, marketing and that idiotic third party launcher.
@R-SXX
@R-SXX 8 ай бұрын
​@@edyslavico3761farm51 even sold the ip and game, I dont even know if farm is doing anything right now, hopefully the studio wont shut down
@haroldadams3951
@haroldadams3951 8 ай бұрын
What ever happened to BattleBit? I remember all the BF content creators drooling over that game for a few months and then the hype just went quiet…
@illbeback2YT
@illbeback2YT 8 ай бұрын
Still mourning. BF3 and BF4 were the golden days.
@carlosthemandalor3650
@carlosthemandalor3650 8 ай бұрын
Bf1 is goat all day long
@thxmasge
@thxmasge 8 ай бұрын
@@carlosthemandalor3650not in my book tbh
@OnyxSilas
@OnyxSilas 8 ай бұрын
Bf1 bro. You forgot mfin BF1
@zachbruner481
@zachbruner481 8 ай бұрын
Bf3 will always be number 1
@crimelord90
@crimelord90 8 ай бұрын
Bf4 100% for me. I want my AEK baby
@gregorypegory1781
@gregorypegory1781 8 ай бұрын
Im an old guy, I remember BF2 special forces, night vsion, grappling hooks! Remember Bad company 2? The destruction! BF3 tank battles! Thanks for sharing.
@nnehila
@nnehila 8 ай бұрын
Yea that expansion blew my mind when it came out!
@marcbrockhoff
@marcbrockhoff 8 ай бұрын
@@nnehila What a nostalgia
@farguc
@farguc 8 ай бұрын
BF2 was a lifetime ago. It was no BS battlefield. Then BC2 destruction was just wow. Yeah we lost some features, but BF3 and BF4 brought some of it back. But by BF3 DICE started releasing broken messy games, that get fixed 2 years post launch just in time for DICE to abandon the game. Like BF2042 is just getting good now, and they are abandoning it. Go back and play BF5 now. Game is great. On release it was a mess. Same with BF1. People praise BF5 now, but on release it was a mess.
@666slin
@666slin 8 ай бұрын
Yeah dude we are old too
@patrikmalory
@patrikmalory 8 ай бұрын
BF1942 mods Like forgotten Hope and then Desert Combat (which was the beginning of BF2 ) great memories
@JUmayNOT
@JUmayNOT 8 ай бұрын
The fact that Jack can have such a detailed one-sided conversation while playing at such a level of concentration is astounding.
@Peanutbutterbutnotjelly
@Peanutbutterbutnotjelly 8 ай бұрын
It’s called easy plays
@trashpanda003
@trashpanda003 8 ай бұрын
He's been playing games for ages im sure its second nature now
@jamessutton2126
@jamessutton2126 8 ай бұрын
I think he's doing a voiceover and just pretending he is commentating live. The gameplay often cuts while he continues exactly what he was saying. Sorry to ruin the illusion.
@JUmayNOT
@JUmayNOT 8 ай бұрын
@@jamessutton2126 Very true, he could also be cutting in his actual game play voice over in between his explanations.
@dontplay9937
@dontplay9937 8 ай бұрын
@@jamessutton2126that’s the thing that separates good and bad players us good players can have a conversation with ease and still do better than you while focusing on
@keithsmith7503
@keithsmith7503 8 ай бұрын
There is nothing like bf1! Visuals, real experimental rifles, the soundtracks, that over the top satisfactory headshot sound. Such a lovely game!
@chrisjohn7933
@chrisjohn7933 8 ай бұрын
Agreed mate. And they also went into historical detail regarding regiments, weapons and armory used. It was awesome.
@michaelrains64295
@michaelrains64295 8 ай бұрын
The last competent BF title.
@goufr3540
@goufr3540 8 ай бұрын
That was the last great BF game. Although as it is now, much like with COD. Both games have just fallen so far behind everything else lately that its probably time to retire them.
@silent_fungus
@silent_fungus 8 ай бұрын
I play BF1 almost everyday.
@keithsmith7503
@keithsmith7503 8 ай бұрын
@@silent_fungus have a hard time finding a game on pc on the weekday. Weekends I have better luck. Make sure to jump back in when a tubow hypes it up again.
@AuryIris
@AuryIris 8 ай бұрын
Battlefield V has some really beautiful, colorful, inspiring graphics. So many different interesting maps, you can find many great detailes, it's almost a pity for it to be no longer existent, because it's just an Artwork. The gameplay is important and very well done, but also the historic feeling, the music, the sounds of explosions, planes, soldiers and even flies are so well done. You have not only soldiers but also vehicles, tanks, plaines, stationary weapons, so many to chose from. Gorgeous maps such as the Pacific, Provence, Arres, Rotterdam... It is also a great beginner game. At first, players are just in awe. For example, I have never played in my life a game with a controller or a what would you call a "serious" game till I was 23 yo, then I started playing Battlefield V. My bf introduced me to the "gaming" world. It was my first game, I practiced, I enjoyed it so much as a newcomer, I then played other games like COD, and now I am back still playing BFV 6 years later. It is calming, it is fun, I can go full playing sweaty or just chilling on the maps, I meet the same players on my servers in Europe, it comforts me, it is not too toxic, it amuses me so much, I love it.
@jordondeannon5501
@jordondeannon5501 8 ай бұрын
Wholesome. Also true!
@Khofax
@Khofax 8 ай бұрын
If you haven’t played it yet BF1 is also more than worth it and delivers an even greater cinematic experience than BFV in my opinion. Anyhow enjoy
@AuryIris
@AuryIris 8 ай бұрын
@@Khofax I have and I love it! Thank you none the less! I can’t and won’t choose which is better, I enjoy wholeheartedly both games, depwnding on the mood. Battlefield 1 is really awesome
@ZIZOUPINDIS
@ZIZOUPINDIS 8 ай бұрын
You play on Xbox ?
@haynes966
@haynes966 8 ай бұрын
yeah bfv is very vibrant and pretty where as bf1 I feel captures war better as the lighting and colors are more grim and dark, both look very good though
@ohnaww
@ohnaww 8 ай бұрын
The first Homefront’s multiplayer had some Battlefield elements to it. Man, I miss it.
@isken6593
@isken6593 8 ай бұрын
And the shooting felt very unique compared to the classic shooters at the time. It was weird but also satisfying 😅 good times
@smokierandall2531
@smokierandall2531 8 ай бұрын
😢
@BrilliantBenGaming
@BrilliantBenGaming 8 ай бұрын
I remember immediately returning my copy to buy BF3 and play that with my friends because no one wanted to play Homefront. I did enjoy the multiplayer beta
@McGJonin
@McGJonin 8 ай бұрын
Underrated multiplayer. I loved the battle point system. Getting the attack helicopter was sick
@ConnSoIo
@ConnSoIo 8 ай бұрын
This game is so forgotten about
@TYSL
@TYSL 8 ай бұрын
I hated Battlefield 1942 for such a longtime when it came out. It was ruining our Friday nights post-work MP sesh. Wolfenstien was still fresh at that point, with a healthy player base, delivering that Q3-paced shooter gameplay (but with the MP40 instead of the Railgun). But. Everyone wanted to play this Battlefield-thing, which looked sluggish in comparison. And why did it need vehicles? “That’s not what a shooter is all about…”. Then one evening I bit the bullet and stepped up to try it: instant fan for life. When you switch off a game on your machine but you can’t switch it off in your head; that’s the mark of a very special title. How many of us have gone to bed (as it’s getting light outside) still replaying moments from that evenings BF session. When BF works it’s lightning in a bottle.
@simple_simon
@simple_simon 8 ай бұрын
Enemy territory is one of my favourite games ever played. "firing for effect!"
@a0000a1234
@a0000a1234 8 ай бұрын
@NotConvinced-tb2yd😂
@nicholasfaber9695
@nicholasfaber9695 8 ай бұрын
@NotConvinced-tb2ydwasnt even that long bro
@Shortay1325
@Shortay1325 8 ай бұрын
This was me with BF2. I made really good friends with a group of guys on BF2 back in 2009. We still talk regularly to this day and some of us have met each other in person. We would all stay up super late during the summer off school playing BF2 and various BF2 mods like Sandbox. Those were the days! Good times.
@TYSL
@TYSL 8 ай бұрын
​@@Shortay1325 Same, man. My gaming friends, the close ones who became great friends, all found each other via BF3. And your point, for me, speaks to another weird misstep that DICE / EA made over the last few decades; the demise of rented servers and Battlelog. It highlights (to me at least) that someone making the big financial decisions around that game did not understand the GOLD that is Community. There are brands - inside and outside of gaming - that would kill for the loyal, active and engaged community BF had around that time; all these pockets of friends coming together to host community-owned nights and events. It was such a clear indicator towards loyalty I find it utterly mind-bottlin' it was abandoned (probably because of a figure on a spreadsheet somewhere). So shortsighted of them… and I guarantee they're still feeling the ripple effect [pun] of that poor decision; end of the day it's going to be a community that sticks with you through your wins and your not-so-wins.
@lynxproductions
@lynxproductions 8 ай бұрын
Battlebit was the closest one in my opinion.
@AoGbeverage16
@AoGbeverage16 8 ай бұрын
Still waiting for it to hit consoles.. Has so much potential
@lpk822
@lpk822 8 ай бұрын
yeah agreed, real shame it died tho
@GuitarooMan93
@GuitarooMan93 8 ай бұрын
Except for immersion
@We_Are_Borg_478
@We_Are_Borg_478 8 ай бұрын
The exclusivity turned me off. It let me download the game, boot it up, adjust my settings, and then slapped me with a message that I can't play unless I sign up on their waiting lists. I waited over a year with no reply. I don't beg to play games.
@Svendsenz
@Svendsenz 8 ай бұрын
@@lpk822 hø it died? What do u mean, it still very active, maybe not 60k people playing but it average 3k players and peek every day is around 6k people. Very alive when it comes to updates. And it has no microtransactions. The game is 100% better now than at the start. People just quit games because they going back to theres safe game that they have played for years and know has content on youtube etc
@Seanmmvi
@Seanmmvi 8 ай бұрын
BFV has been excellent... I haven't left it. I would pay $100 for a 10 map expansion pack for BFV - along with new weapons and vehicles.
@skalmanidealman
@skalmanidealman 8 ай бұрын
Yes that would be so fun! Don't even need new weapons just new maps. Would be easy money for EA
@TheAAminat
@TheAAminat 8 ай бұрын
same !!!!
@leviwinkelmann9110
@leviwinkelmann9110 8 ай бұрын
that would be a dream
@SB-in8rw
@SB-in8rw 8 ай бұрын
Same but for BF 1
@IsraelSocial
@IsraelSocial 8 ай бұрын
I wish bf5 had 120+ players and delete the limits on conquer! Is so annoying when you die after cross the line
@JackOfBlackPhoenix
@JackOfBlackPhoenix 8 ай бұрын
BattleBit and World War 3 were the closest, shame their potential was killed by their own devs (then again, pretty much same happened with Battlefield itself)
@5at5una
@5at5una 8 ай бұрын
yeah WW3 got the feeling of BF4 with BF5 movement style and squad call in.. just no destruction but they just cant get the server and player on it
@farguc
@farguc 8 ай бұрын
@@5at5una Whilst the destruction is super cool, I think at the moment the tech just can't provide us large scale destruction without compromising on gameplay. If they were to do a 24/32 player BF game like they did BC2 I think the quality of gameplay would be better and destruction could be turned up. With 64+ players it's better to have no destruction and use those resources in making sure the netcode is solid.
@yakamoa177
@yakamoa177 8 ай бұрын
Surprised no ones done a Warhammer 40k BF type game. That would be awesome
@benjaminmajor5144
@benjaminmajor5144 8 ай бұрын
THANK YOU, I've been saying this on BF videos for ages a HD remake of BATTLEFIELD VIETNAM or BATTLEFIELD 40K glad I'm not the only one
@Fhyrne
@Fhyrne 8 ай бұрын
Waaaaaagh!
@Fhyrne
@Fhyrne 8 ай бұрын
​@NotConvinced-tb2yd heretic
@OPTIMUMELITE
@OPTIMUMELITE 8 ай бұрын
A BATTLEFIELD WARHAMMER WOULD BE SICK AF!!!!!!!!
@sebastianschmidt3829
@sebastianschmidt3829 8 ай бұрын
There was WH40k Eternal Crusade
@LDacic
@LDacic 8 ай бұрын
Jack casually carrying his entire team while chatting with us. Brilliant. Tbf, the game running that smooth on those settings does help. Cheers
@dongyschlontong-ck5xg
@dongyschlontong-ck5xg 8 ай бұрын
It's edited to look that way. He does a voiceover.
@kaustie
@kaustie 8 ай бұрын
@@dongyschlontong-ck5xg It's not voiceover bro, there are many parts of the video that he talks about the gameplay itself
@AcerProRokerInc
@AcerProRokerInc 8 ай бұрын
It's a voice over 😂 "It's not because he talks about gameplay" 🤦🤦🤦🤦
@kaustie
@kaustie 8 ай бұрын
@@AcerProRokerInc gameplay itself, talking about what he was doing at the moment and the reactions he had 😮‍💨
@ywsx6489
@ywsx6489 8 ай бұрын
I was there Jack... 3000 years ago when BF1942 released... i was immediately hooked. i loved being just a normal soldier in a big battle.
@CitizenKang
@CitizenKang 8 ай бұрын
LOL right before you destroyed the statue, I thought to myself "He should try to destroy that statue."
@jackfrags
@jackfrags 8 ай бұрын
mission success!
@petariliev110
@petariliev110 8 ай бұрын
BF5 needs 2 Eastern Front maps, what an underlooked game
@Nomadic2b34u-bt4zs
@Nomadic2b34u-bt4zs 8 ай бұрын
Give us the CTE back with map editor. If dice can't be bothered to make maps, the community will, I'd like to see a procedurally generated city map too.
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 8 ай бұрын
It's a missed opportunity for DICE to not have a map editor. It allows a community to engage and enhance.
@GS-vb3zn
@GS-vb3zn 8 ай бұрын
2042 has competition because it’s pretty mid. But, yah, BFV (and BF1) have no equal.
@snarl3027
@snarl3027 8 ай бұрын
You’re 100% right! BF4 was the best game ever made.
@StoneCorazon
@StoneCorazon 8 ай бұрын
yeah but it really doesnt
@fxthePunisher
@fxthePunisher 8 ай бұрын
Where??
@solid5502
@solid5502 8 ай бұрын
Mid?
@jesse76th96
@jesse76th96 8 ай бұрын
@@snarl3027 BF3 was better overall, BF4 had the better mechanics but worse maps
@bgorley
@bgorley 8 ай бұрын
There’s nothing better. It’s hands down my favorite game franchise for all the reasons you listed. The immersion, the variety maps, vehicles, aircrafts, ships, boats, watercraft, class load-outs, the music, the game play, the gun play, the necessary team play, and last but not least the destruction. Seeing the next best version of such a game on a modern engine could take the top spot in FPS gaming for the next decade if done right.
@_.JohnWick._
@_.JohnWick._ 8 ай бұрын
@satis4
@satis4 8 ай бұрын
Try squad, if u dont mind realism
@alexmeyburgh9668
@alexmeyburgh9668 8 ай бұрын
From South Africa, loving BFV. Unfortunately it's always 120ms for me to play on Singapore servers 😢. Loving it more than 2042 right now! Love the content Jack!
@NerdisticTouch
@NerdisticTouch 8 ай бұрын
BROOOOOOOO!!!!!! i still jump on from time to time on Bf1 and i play EU servers ... no one plays on the SA ones ...
@kaz_araya7960
@kaz_araya7960 8 ай бұрын
I play on SG servers and I'm in Malaysia (right next to SG) and it's dead. I waited in an empty lobby for 15 minutes and only one guy joined, who then Immediately left. Man i wish this game was so much more popular in Asia
@josenorberto9787
@josenorberto9787 8 ай бұрын
I think there is no "competition" because the market is already filled with BF itself, people don't feel the need to play something that is almost BF but is not BF. Jack mentioned many examples of games that have incorporated the BF style of gameplay with their own "thing": oh this is Star Wars BF; oh this is Roblox BF; oh this is milsim BF, etc. Even the spot for "World War I/II BF" is filled (very well btw) by BF itself. To this day (even with BF2042) EA still does the BF formula well enough to make it relevant. Maybe if in the next iterations of BF EA and Dice keep making mistakes, someone else will make a decent game that looks basically exactly like the BF that we know today and then we'll have real competition for BF's spot in the market.
@farguc
@farguc 8 ай бұрын
Also with how often they release new games, graphically the 2/3 most recent games almost always look almost as good as the most recent game. Case and point BF1, BF5 and BF2042 look very similar graphically. So If I want my BF fix in a WW2 setting or WW1 setting, I already have Battlefield games with decent populations to play with. Problem is that most BF players are arcade shooter players first, so stuff like Squad are too different from core gameplay of BF. Same reason why COD and Counter-strike are both FPS shooters, but have wildly different playerbases. I hate what EA has done with DICE and Battlefield, but it works for them. Each BF gets bad reviews on launch, then they work on fixing the game, then EA tells them to go make new game yesterday.
@rokker333
@rokker333 8 ай бұрын
I agree. And I am saying for a long time now, the BF crowd seems to die out. I guess younger players are no longer that much attracted to BF mechanics. That hurts sales and revenue compared to other AAA games. And it is a shame. BF evolved 25 years ago and back then there was at least a few similar games. E.g. Enemy Territory (RTCW ET). I played this about till 2005 and switched then to BF BC2.
@TGFGamesta
@TGFGamesta 8 ай бұрын
This is a really good point well made. However, to play devils advocate for a minute - Healthy competition is how this specific genre will flourish. If one company/dev has the monopoly, you will see lack of effort because no one is even in the same league. It is like playing Poker with yourself lol. My view is that a big dev needs to go into direct competition with them to stop EA getting complacent. I also think that they have over complicated the mechanics for the past 2, trying to concentrate on visuals over everything else. This is just my view though, for what it is worth. I am yearning for a battlefield with gunplay & vehicles from BF4, map design from BF3 and visuals from BF1. No specialists, no 2 clips before going to an ammo dump (That's what engineers are for), no bugs at launch & just a fun sandbox game.
@abstractminds1433
@abstractminds1433 8 ай бұрын
It's crazy just how long BF5 has stayed relevant! What a great game.
@NRobbi42
@NRobbi42 8 ай бұрын
Definitely overhated when it came out, and it only got better. Apparently people think "overhated" = great
@rattlehead999
@rattlehead999 8 ай бұрын
@@NRobbi42 Not overhated at launch, it came out broken and unfinished, while trying to change history. Now it's great.
@beyahoyo
@beyahoyo 8 ай бұрын
I'm on bfv a couple hours every day still love it
@aapferb694
@aapferb694 8 ай бұрын
​@@rattlehead999 "Trying to change history" lol found one
@vhscopyofseinfeld
@vhscopyofseinfeld 8 ай бұрын
@@NRobbi42what?? It was a disaster for years
@CitizenKang
@CitizenKang 8 ай бұрын
I finally deleted BF2042 from my PS5. The new map is uninspired. I'm re-downloading BFV now.
@KontrolStyle
@KontrolStyle 8 ай бұрын
sad to see you go, have fun bfv o7
@Reynoldz182
@Reynoldz182 8 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I did. I BF1 and BF5 are still kickin.
@dhruvster10
@dhruvster10 8 ай бұрын
Smart choice. 2042 is a disgrace to the franchise
@evanhansen2354
@evanhansen2354 8 ай бұрын
I think it does not have a ton of competition is because it has a grip on a lot of the fans of the genre with the whole combined arms thing. They also do it relatively well. This is complete speculation, but I think that they don't want to try because they think they will fail? I do think that Battle.bit did the gameplay justice though!
@neonicecube908
@neonicecube908 8 ай бұрын
Rising Storm 2 has alot of things that make bf games great, it does have large maps, squads, classes and helicopters too.
@YodaGoat44
@YodaGoat44 8 ай бұрын
Imagine Dice spending a year making updates for all their old games. Maps, weapons, classes, etc
@truthseeker9454
@truthseeker9454 8 ай бұрын
I'll wager it would win back many disaffected players.
@connorbranscombe6819
@connorbranscombe6819 8 ай бұрын
@@truthseeker9454genuinely doubt it, although I’d like to see it, but given the vitriol in this community most would probably find an excuse to get mad about it.
@michaelrains64295
@michaelrains64295 8 ай бұрын
I’d pay for BF1 dlc. Nothing will make me play any newer BF games.
@truthseeker9454
@truthseeker9454 8 ай бұрын
@@connorbranscombe6819 I hear you. It's sad, really. I played games like MOHAA, SH and BT many years ago. Those were some of the best times I've ever had online. Those games had bugs and were vulnerable to cheats, but the player community banded together to laugh about the bugs and ban the cheaters. These more modern games have stunning graphics and some amazing features, but it seems players complain about *everything.* It's either too much this or not enough that. I'd honestly hate to have the job of trying to please them. I just know I'm done with chasing specs and always having to buy more expensive hardware to play the latest games. I think there are a lot of others who feel that way, too -- hence the large number of players still playing BF 1 and BF V. I'm among them. I'd pay for new content for those games as long as my computer can run them; I think others might as well. Peace, brother!
@Eeveefall
@Eeveefall 8 ай бұрын
I think the simple reason Battlefield doesn't get any competition is because it doesn't make enough money as hero shooters or simpler shooter games. Most FPS games seem to have a heavy emphasis on lootboxes and cosmetics and make a stupid amount of money of them, while being more simple to make gameplay wise (Overwatch, Valorant, COD, etc.) Theres a lot going on in a BF game so I figure its hard to design servers that handle it all, especially given the graphical fidelity. I imagine that's why Battlebit can do it with 200+ players. And tbh, I feel like if another big publisher tried it, it would be too much of a risk since they would try to keep costs low and still manage to be worse than older BFs. Maybe, idk
@KontrolStyle
@KontrolStyle 8 ай бұрын
You nailed it, "too much risk" vs how much money it costs to make vs how much money they HAVE to make. cheers
@pain7958
@pain7958 8 ай бұрын
Enlisted is another alternative as long as you count the bots for it's large scale warfare. It's only 10v10, but each player can have 9 controllable soldiers each.
@edyslavico3761
@edyslavico3761 8 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the grind is comically long. It's a worse version than war thunder and that's saying something.
@Shortay1325
@Shortay1325 8 ай бұрын
I gave Enlisted a chance and it was quite fun. However, I was getting sick of the huge grind feeling. As soon as you thought you were going somewhere, you had to start grinding from scratch yet again with another side. I do have to say it is a fun take where you can control a squad online. Just so dang grindy.
@pain7958
@pain7958 7 ай бұрын
@@edyslavico3761 Have you played after the merge? Now you can focus on what you want to unlock, and the overall grind has been reduced on top of that. Getting silver is a bit of a pain tho.
@roguesquadron6963
@roguesquadron6963 8 ай бұрын
It’s amazing how nonchalantly you can decimate a team whilst talking about games and such. Gg’s!
@fmoll8748
@fmoll8748 8 ай бұрын
nice video. as a nowadays very casual gamer, i don't have the insights into the more detailed gameplay mechanics or history of a game. quite interesting to hear an "experienced" view on modern gaming and thoughts on why the industry is how it is atm.
@whogg0521
@whogg0521 8 ай бұрын
I love battlefield, even with its flaws, since BC2 and watching your vids, Level cap, etc. I love the immersion, even when not playing well. Side note..I will never NOT be amazed how you play so well and do commentary at the same time.
@motiv8j
@motiv8j 8 ай бұрын
I love bf5. It was the best squad game with your mates, without the sweat of sbmm. Sniping and tank busting was so much fun. I’m a console player and it looks like Helldivers has that same squad/mates feel?
@Devinn504
@Devinn504 8 ай бұрын
Nah bf3/bf4
@dadavinci
@dadavinci 8 ай бұрын
We need a full scale Battlebits...or atleast a console port. A series like Hell Let Loose can thrive in different timelines because they have a solid foundation as is. But that's committing to a more sim-shooter type game.
@daylightdies7194
@daylightdies7194 8 ай бұрын
The only thing I have against that is pc would then be ignored and no consideration to how any changes would impact pc players like nerfs and things
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R 8 ай бұрын
BFV was way underrated. I never understood the hate, i loved it the whole time,it has the best movement of all battlefield games, and its better than any COD in the last couple handfuls of years
@MrDelgado559
@MrDelgado559 8 ай бұрын
Because of the woke propaganda BS with there being female soldiers in WW2
@fxthePunisher
@fxthePunisher 8 ай бұрын
It came after bf1 people were sick from ww and it had many issues they wanted to put woke propaganda in it but then they fixed it and abandoned it to develop battleshit 2042 Angel does it again
@fxthePunisher
@fxthePunisher 8 ай бұрын
I really have enjoyed it too specially the Fliegerfaust to ruin a pilots day 😂
@benrockwell1503
@benrockwell1503 8 ай бұрын
It's a pretty good game now, but people were frustrated with how the live service aspects of the game rolled out. There was very little content and the devs kept rebalancing things, creating massive swings in how the game played. Then Dice pulled the plug out very quickly just as the game started to find its footing.
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R
@B-U-T-C-H-E-R 8 ай бұрын
@@benrockwell1503 I remember they made one big balance pass, and then reverted it. I didn't remember too much after
@Tailored_Creations
@Tailored_Creations 8 ай бұрын
Anyone remember M.A.G ? Either 128 or 256 multiplayer maps back in ps3 days.
@Retrofire-47
@Retrofire-47 8 ай бұрын
Yup! loved it like so many great games, forsaken by time
@Dragonfury3000
@Dragonfury3000 8 ай бұрын
Shame it never got a follow up
@jacobconnell7191
@jacobconnell7191 8 ай бұрын
5:38 this is exactly why I love the fortification system in this game. Jack wants to quickly cross the street and get to safety, but the barbed wire is up which gives a sniper time to shoot at him. Now there’s a new problem to solve
@kevingenthe2629
@kevingenthe2629 8 ай бұрын
You mentioned Quake and Unreal Tournament towards the end, and I've been wondering recently about what happened to the arena shooter genre, as I never really got to experience it and feel like I would really enjoy those kinds of games. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that topic as well.
@SceneArtisan
@SceneArtisan 8 ай бұрын
Imagine the return of arena shooters! Boo yaa!
@joshallen-hallam2838
@joshallen-hallam2838 8 ай бұрын
I still love Halo for example but one thing jack didn't touch so much on and off subject slightly is sandbox arena shooters. Man they're so fun and I miss the old school unreal tournament / quake / halo madness. Nonetheless BF is still king
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 8 ай бұрын
He had talked about it in a video. Not sure which one. I would consider Halo a modern version of an arena shooter. But it is very different than quake and unreal with pacing
@KontrolStyle
@KontrolStyle 8 ай бұрын
the 30 year olds want 5v5 cs like, or war like shooters they can't handle the quake shooters. It's just my take, they get bored of the die/respawn/die type game play but can do that if they are drinking water / food in a dayz type game -- weird huh? arena shooters are dead and most of us 'boomers' are sad about it, but what can you do? gotta just join the newer type of gamer and deal with it (hence why i forced myself to learn bf2042 / bb / cod (the horror) type games.
@jesse76th96
@jesse76th96 8 ай бұрын
Lawbreakers happened
@nedfo72
@nedfo72 8 ай бұрын
I would put ww3 in the list, but still isn't the same for sure
@christopherstone4336
@christopherstone4336 8 ай бұрын
WW3 will never get off the ground. Devs really kinda fucked it on its launch sadly. They should have moved it to console when it had the hype.
@homepie6046
@homepie6046 8 ай бұрын
Good to see you back, Jack.
@snowball7829
@snowball7829 8 ай бұрын
Special type of guys can stroll around, taking on squads alone, while chatting about whats on their mind in a hectic game like Battlefield. Im so glad I found this video, I did not know about a lot of these other games like Battlefield
@nnehila
@nnehila 8 ай бұрын
Been playing so much battlebit... Really looking forward to their big update coming soon
@whiskeyjuliet
@whiskeyjuliet 8 ай бұрын
It was tried at one point with the game Frontlines: Fuel of War and I don't think most people ever even heard of it and this was 2008 right between 2142 and BC2. 🤷‍♂
@benrockwell1503
@benrockwell1503 8 ай бұрын
I was in the Beta for that game. It had potential but was kind of stillborn. It was released in a very basic state and pretty much abandoned as the studio that made it (Kaos) moved on to Homefront. As a side note, many of the developers at Kaos previously worked on the Desert Combat mode for 1942 that inspired BF2.
@TheoriginalBMT
@TheoriginalBMT 8 ай бұрын
It was interesting. Underwhelming at times, but I still played it a bunch.
@lagfx9
@lagfx9 8 ай бұрын
Oh man flying the apache in Desert Combat was very hard in 1942, but extremely satisfying. modding for Battlefield back then was great.
@evandierker2272
@evandierker2272 8 ай бұрын
Play Easy red 2! In all honesty the vibe is more similar to OG battlefront, and the graphics arent great, but the game is fantastic. And the kid making it has made massive strides in the time ive had the game. Theres been several free dlc with tons of maps.
@corndogfilms
@corndogfilms 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing got the game on xbox and have been having an absolute blast hope more people check it out
@PtJones
@PtJones 8 ай бұрын
Was about to mention this title until I saw your comment. Def something to checkout. Basically a budget-friendly bf game with full crossplay support!
@FryCook87
@FryCook87 8 ай бұрын
that game is fucking terrible
@corndogfilms
@corndogfilms 8 ай бұрын
@@FryCook87 who hurt you man
@FryCook87
@FryCook87 8 ай бұрын
@@corndogfilms im being serious i played the thing with a friend and it was unbearable
@swancman
@swancman 8 ай бұрын
Hell Let Loose is my go to game. Haven't touched a Battlefield game in the last two years.
@solid5502
@solid5502 8 ай бұрын
That game is amazing
@Dragonfury3000
@Dragonfury3000 8 ай бұрын
I think that game is best for those that already played a ton of BF. I rather have a more casual game like cod or bf just to chill tbh
@indiana_bones5583
@indiana_bones5583 8 ай бұрын
Haven’t played any other shooter after I picked up HLL
@rpb1310
@rpb1310 8 ай бұрын
Nothing has come close to them early planetside 2 years. Some insane battles to be a part of that i will always remember.
@vondoomgaming1224
@vondoomgaming1224 8 ай бұрын
WW3 was a good battlefield style game, until they released it on Free-2-Play, changing the movement, sound (which was |EPIC) and gunplay, also the colur palette was enlivened which ruined the bleak atmosphere
@nedfo72
@nedfo72 8 ай бұрын
Yup, game had potential, but ultimately fell pretty flat
@KosherBeycon
@KosherBeycon 8 ай бұрын
I believe that in today's society, many individuals have developed a lack of patience and a desire for quick solutions. This, when combined with economic pressures and investor expectations, can create a negative situation. Rather than rushing to complete tasks, it is important to take the time to do things properly and thoroughly, instead of settling for a half-hearted attempt. Sometimes, the simplest solutions are the best. I mean, they don't need to reinvent the wheel, just take some proper time with it. That's my thoughts on it :). Thanks for the great content :)
@tomwest1382
@tomwest1382 8 ай бұрын
Hell Let Loose is the go to ‘Battlefield’ style game right now. The best battlefield moments are from squad play, and HLL amplifies that on a large scale
@ATGbandit
@ATGbandit 8 ай бұрын
I love HLL. But it's not a BF competitor due to the fact that it's more of a Mil Sim. Completely different feels.
@Am_Yisrael_Chai_7
@Am_Yisrael_Chai_7 8 ай бұрын
Not even close to BfV
@geneblakeney
@geneblakeney 3 ай бұрын
I have gone back to BFV when you put out the 4k gameplay. Its a really amazing game! i love the story details and the level of production. The VO, music, sfx are amazing. I love the Grand Operations mode!!! And fortifications. They need to remember these things on next game. Thanks Jack!
@snaggyak
@snaggyak 8 ай бұрын
BV5 one of the greatest Battlefield games
@8lue17
@8lue17 8 ай бұрын
I play this game so much that I always crave a new set of maps. I wish it had more content. I agree with Jack, there's just nothing as good as this
@connornorton3552
@connornorton3552 8 ай бұрын
Enlisted is among the list of games like battlefield
@christianrasmussen6759
@christianrasmussen6759 8 ай бұрын
love that game
@WhatsUp-fe8jc
@WhatsUp-fe8jc 8 ай бұрын
🗑️
@stylintylin77
@stylintylin77 8 ай бұрын
Battlebit is my vote. The graphics dont mean too much if ur still having fun
@cornejonando
@cornejonando 8 ай бұрын
The Harry Potter under the stairs reference is great, Jack. That's why I watch your content, you always have a reference to popular culture. In my opinion the commentary you do is underrated. Keep it coming I'm all for it.
@wololo10
@wololo10 8 ай бұрын
There's battlebit, proximity chat is so much fun
@raptonsoul2557
@raptonsoul2557 8 ай бұрын
Sad that it’s basically dead outside of North America
@Dragonfury3000
@Dragonfury3000 8 ай бұрын
It needs a console release
@Swaguley
@Swaguley 8 ай бұрын
Dude I agree. I think if the next Battlefield incorporates the gunplay, proximity chat, and other features from Battlebit, it could be very successful.
@fataldreams2
@fataldreams2 8 ай бұрын
I still play BF1. Just the WW I emersion is unreal to this day
@christopherhendren117
@christopherhendren117 8 ай бұрын
Battlefield: GI Joe, cell-shaded graphics, Joes VS Cobras.
@DocFoxTV
@DocFoxTV 8 ай бұрын
I think the BF games are just a genre in the gray zone of gaming. They're good on their own but everyone wants an extraction shooter; or at least it seems that way. I think BF is still fun and filled with so many unique moments that make it incomparable.
@Greaseball_gamer
@Greaseball_gamer 8 ай бұрын
Battlebit is a better battlefield ?
@VictorBE
@VictorBE 8 ай бұрын
Nahhh
@GhostSlayer81
@GhostSlayer81 8 ай бұрын
People tried to kill this franchise just to let make them get better. Instead, the next battlefield flows more and more .. Battlefield has a huge engine, and Dice must reach to its limits so it can get near the recent COD and other tactical FPS Games that emphasize realism . But I really doubt it because Battlefield has this kinda limited as teamplay game more then rush lone wolf like COD..
@Shargon25
@Shargon25 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE YOU JACK! PLEASE MARRY ME!!! 💍
@legendrogue237
@legendrogue237 8 ай бұрын
HOW DARE YOU.......I'll be his second wife
@yaraelpoof7242
@yaraelpoof7242 8 ай бұрын
Another problem is that a large number of games you mentioned are pc exclusive so there are even more limited options on console
@Yee20234
@Yee20234 8 ай бұрын
Its sad that no one mentions Isonzo. I had so many experiences there that i think many people would describe as "battlefield-moments" and i still play it regularly.
@stevenzwiesler5104
@stevenzwiesler5104 8 ай бұрын
I could be wrong here, but I think a lot of it could come down to the engine. I mean, Frostbite has done so much for battlefield as a series and I dont think other studios have the confidence to go against Frostbite and Battlefield as a whole in direct competition.
@FelipeRubens
@FelipeRubens 8 ай бұрын
I believe the hardest thing to do in games like this is making a large scaled map and making it balanced for the players. Also, having a lot of players together, with explosions and all, is hard to optimize on certain hardwares.
@HeyManNiceShotx
@HeyManNiceShotx 8 ай бұрын
Battlefield 5 really turned it around. Watching Jack play, it reminds me of how fun it was. The gunplay was so tight, maybe the best in the series.
@carrast
@carrast 8 ай бұрын
this game is still an excellent game, still playin since 2018..
@ninety851
@ninety851 8 ай бұрын
One game that is slept on is Polygon its free and its Battlefield/Call of duty mix and you can customize weapons and such. And there is maps from BF and other games. give it a try its fun
@NisseROCKZ
@NisseROCKZ 8 ай бұрын
I stopped playing BF and switched to World War 3 on Steam. Nice balance between arcade and hardcore. It got real weapons and gear, that is 1:1 to the real world, like magpull grips, ELCAN sights and Aimpoint and so on. Great game, and life like maps in Japan, Germany (Berlin) and Ruzzia. Give it a go!
@SGTMotitaz
@SGTMotitaz 8 ай бұрын
I love that project reality got a shout out. Still play it till this day and still one of the most cinematic and co-operative experience I have ever had.
@Drewww71
@Drewww71 8 ай бұрын
Didn't hear a word you said :) Was enthralled in your game play! I wish I could be that good.
@Sinsanatis
@Sinsanatis 8 ай бұрын
i think its just that bf has the name, the experience making it, and the funds too when talking about indie devs. if anyone else tries to do so, ppl will just see it as a copy even if its just as good or better. many know bf will usually yield a decent experience and only look their way. like how the iphone, theres probably better phones out there, but apple usually ships a good high quality product whether its innovative or not. the ip also has too high of a standing in the industry. its like how cod triumphs the arcadey military shooter. i think the industry just knows that going exactly toe to toe with the big 2 usually wont end well for them
@diesel581
@diesel581 8 ай бұрын
Love the video as always! Still wish you showed the ending K/D. :( Since you're amazing as always it'd be like 50-5. Haha
@nealvertongen9979
@nealvertongen9979 8 ай бұрын
I agree. Gaming for me always has had battlefield at the forefront. And although I used to switch to call of duty from time to time over the years, I have always been a battlefield fan. There is just something so unique in the classic battlefield bc2, bf3 and bf4 formula that kept me playing. The immersion of modern combat rifles, tanks, jets, choppers, being a trained soldier part of big armies, feeling like you REALLY were flying and parachuting out of choppers and buildings (something that bf2042 really lacks), the gritty feeling of war and cursing going on while fighting the other team, the squad play and conversations with random people playing together to push the objective. MAAAN I miss those fucking days...
@lucasceccattolcc
@lucasceccattolcc 8 ай бұрын
red orchestra 2 heroes of stalingrad is a good game, one of my favorites, a shame it isnt as popular as these other games
@BleedingUranium
@BleedingUranium 8 ай бұрын
In addition to being an excellent commentary, the gameplay itself here is such a perfect showcase of Battlefield being Battlefield. :)
@waywardgun
@waywardgun 8 ай бұрын
I think although other games have tried, no one has managed the full package quite like Battlefield. It's not just having combined arms, it's making both the infantry and vehicle combat solid whilst also having coherent map design that allows for both. Other titles tend to fall down at at least one of those hurdles.
@takingpigon8478
@takingpigon8478 8 ай бұрын
Bf5 isn't perfect but it has one of the best gameplay cycles ever and its just fun, which is the hole point of playing video games in my opinion.
@Squalldim
@Squalldim 8 ай бұрын
I remember one game when I was a kid : Wolfenstein enemy territory. It was pure joy to play it. Very similar to the rush mode, more objectives turned game, but with classes and so on
@Darthstevo05
@Darthstevo05 8 ай бұрын
Jack u should play bf4 soon! Been loving playing it again.
@chigmeister1906
@chigmeister1906 8 ай бұрын
Battlefront 3 needs to be made but it needs to be more similar to the originals mixed with the first dice version.
@major3336
@major3336 8 ай бұрын
Honestly, I was hoping Battlebit would be my battlefield like game for a while. It’s still fun in a way but right now they e made some poor balancing decisions and everyone has been melting with SMGs at AR ranges for some time now. Also doesn’t help that the movement is quite glitchy as well. It’s smooth and sometimes able to be tracked, but some guys made it their life’s work to see how they can make it even more jank so you can’t even understand what you are seeing. It’s not laggy as much as 2042s movement but it is just as janky sometimes. Tbh, I’ve moved away from fps games for a few months now and went on to Ghost Recon, racing games and simulators. Just haven’t had the mood or the patients for fps bull crap anymore.
@absalomstar7085
@absalomstar7085 8 ай бұрын
If I had a time machine, there would be two things to do on the top of my list. 1. Hug my dad 2. Go back to the peak days of BF3, BF4, and BF1
@OPTIMUMELITE
@OPTIMUMELITE 8 ай бұрын
If i had a reality bending machine id go and make 2042 the game it was suppossed to be. The next generation of Battlefield.
@qopiqq3629
@qopiqq3629 8 ай бұрын
I'd still like to have a gamemode in BFV where everyone can get in a plane or tank, no spawn limits. Just the big open maps, just all out chaos
@SuperYouvid
@SuperYouvid 3 ай бұрын
BFV in quest 3 with vorp X is an honest gem!! Some of the finest visuals!! Plays perfectly!
@michaelgeorge5436
@michaelgeorge5436 8 ай бұрын
Yep, I'm still playing bf5. There is nothing like it. We need something, big time.
@Keggler
@Keggler 8 ай бұрын
I'm surprised there hasn't been a GI Joe or Transformers game similar to battlefield. both feel like they'd be able to cover the variety and provide unique experiences
@agm2499
@agm2499 8 ай бұрын
I liked bf5 alot. Was always surprised people hated it. It was still true BF. I still play it ✊️
@sanderdegroot6227
@sanderdegroot6227 8 ай бұрын
This game was awesome, still sort of is - want to go back to it. This map in particular (coming from Rotterdam) was such a treasure
@shgdrums
@shgdrums 8 ай бұрын
I would Love Jack's PC set up his videos always look sooooooo crisp an clean! Definitely one of my favourite content creator's 👌
@wilson2kmax
@wilson2kmax 8 ай бұрын
Hi Jack, In response to your question/video. In my opinion I feel Dice have such a great game engine and have been using and upgrading it for a very long time. I don't feel any other game engine could produce anything near the same experience. Ultimately I believe its the engine they use. Love your content thankyou for taking time to create. 👍
@Wushiemufu
@Wushiemufu 8 ай бұрын
Great question, I think it comes down to development difficulty and time investment getting all the features working together in a combined arms focused game. Like the flying just does not feel quite right in 2042 vs bf4 and everyone noticed. When all the features don't mesh well it really breaks the immersion. It is rare for a single game dev studio to have the engine experience to iterate all those different features with destruction and an engine capable of handling all the vehicle mechanics/physics. It is like 3 games in one but each game is harder to make because it has to work with all the others. I imagine being the project manager for such a team would be very difficult to say the least, whatever the case I hope more great combined arms games with destruction come out and I would love to see new dev teams try to create games like this.
@MrSilencedGamer
@MrSilencedGamer 8 ай бұрын
From the perspective of a game developer, I can definitely say that the cost is part of the reason as to why developers and publishers aren't trying to make Battlefield like games. The cost means that a failure is way more painful, whilst a success is way less profitable. I however believe that there are two main reason why developers don't want to take that gamble. The first one is that there are already two massive games in the genre that are so entrenched that trying to take customers away from them seems like an impossibility. The other reason is kind of linked to that, and that is that gamers who play these kinds of games usually pick one and then play that game for a really long time. In genres like city builders for example, most players tend to play a lot of different city builders, which makes it an easier market to break into. In the FPS genre, players usually pick one line (CoD or BF) and then just play the newest or best game in that game series, which makes it a lot harder to break into that genre. When I talk about "players" in this context, I'm talking about the "typical" player of that genre. Therefore none of this needs to apply to you. Also, this is just my best guess based on my experience, I could be wrong.
@bluecactusmonkey4605
@bluecactusmonkey4605 8 ай бұрын
It's because big companies don't listen to their fan base or they make something that just isn't worth it, especially with the prices they charge. For instance, Helldivers is one of the greatest games at the moment, it has high player counts and it's all-round fun, and for 40-50 bucks it's a good game for a good price, they listen to their player base and they support them by constantly updating and adding new feature to keep the gameplay loop somewhat fresh.
@duggy92
@duggy92 2 ай бұрын
There is quite a lot of games that revolve around “All out war” and they are hardcore titles. Arcade type shooters are slimming down and more and more people want realistic combat. Personally it’s a mixture for me as I love the fast pace action, being able to play aggressive. But on the other hand the slow pace can be fun especially if there a pretty much instant TTK and having those moments where you kill 20 people in a row like you’re a ghost. The issue is on how fast hardcore shooters tend to die down in playerbase and only (if not) a handful of games keep this playerbase whilst the other titles are pretty much ghost games.
@CastIronGinger
@CastIronGinger 8 ай бұрын
I agree, I’ve noticed 2042 doesn’t always have 128 players, which is sad because there isn’t another fps like it imo. I’ve just returned and I’ve been having a blast! Looks like I need to play BF1 & BF5 again too!
@RunninBearPoo
@RunninBearPoo 8 ай бұрын
1942 and bf3 and bf4 were so fun and kept me engaged
@clank7298
@clank7298 8 ай бұрын
BF5 was not the WW2 game everyone was hoping for, but at least after a lot of time passed, it started to become an accepted game in the series. Not as good as BF1, but it has its moments. It sure beats the launch announcement trailer, that’s for sure. Remember prosthetic arm lady?
@Koyague
@Koyague 8 ай бұрын
I’m just happy I was playing in the good ole times bf3,bf4 and bf1
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