Battlefield V - What Happened?

[@MattMcMuscles]

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[@jasonreyes6582]

That and Evolve. I think those two would be awesome Matt would crush it!

[@luizguilhermeolivera3303]

Can you do a whahappun on no man's sky?!

[@AyaReikoTripleElite]

Final Fantasy XIV v1.0 deserves a Wha Happun episode. Sqeenix had to NUKE that game from orbit.

[@fix0the0spade]

A Battlefront 2 Wha Happun would be interesting, because it has a more or less happy ending. Despite all the release controversy (and richly deserved it was) the game went on to sell more than 33million copies and might well be the best selling game EA has ever published.

[@bobafett4265]

A What Happened on Driver 3? It's an infamous disaster that killed the franchise, Atari that published it and a couple of gaming news/reviewer outlets, very interesting stuff.

[@Kenoji8]

Yeah Matt, it's definitely time to do a "What Happun?" on Battlefield 2042. It definitively needs one.

[@ricardoherrera8863]

I was abour to comment that

[@HL3AlcAida]

It just finished the Battlefield franchise.

[@RileyE.]

Dude legit came to game pass been playing portal mode, just a HD BF3 and 1942 really. Oh how the mighty have fallen. :(

[@rocioquiroz11]

I think he wants to wait because it's technically still "Happening".

[@Kenoji8]

@@rocioquiroz11 -- The game is starting to make a turnaround and is MUCH better now. A bunch of fixes came through and I think a major update is incoming adding more content. People are starting to say that it plays like actual Battlefield now.

[@MagicMaster667]

_"This meal is so unfinished, EA is trying to publish it!"_ - Gordon Ramsay, ca 2014

[@sonnguyenviet6935]

Wait is that real ?

[@MagicMaster667]

@@sonnguyenviet6935 No. It was from a Gordon Ramsay meme format.

[@battlion507]

"It's RAW!"

[@Artersa]

This is excellent.

[@joshuabenson6543]

EA: “If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.” Customers: *Don’t buy the game at all* EA: *Surprised Pikachu face*

[@Boffo97]

Pretty much the fate of every game, movie or what have you where the powers that be tell the mainstream fanbase either "If you don't like it, don't buy it" or "It's not for you".

[@NoOne-qn2hv]

I haven’t bought an EA game in over a decade

[@entruh4520]

@@NoOne-qn2hv ive never bought an ea game with my money

[@OmenCrimson]

EA: "If you don't like it don't buy it" Nobody buys it Me: "They said don't buy it!" *Insert Spanish Laughing Guy meme*

[@TraumaCenter13]

@@NoOne-qn2hv Yeah, I haven't bought an EA game ever since they botched Dead Space 3.

[@Kwad_rat]

I can predict the future. Mat will make another EA focused episode.

[@jackercooper4078]

in other's news you are hungry when you feel hunger

[@Kwad_rat]

​@@jackercooper4078 I feel that we understand each other clearly.

[@Kwatcher100]

Jacker cooper And water is wet.

[@JimXUltima]

Im hoping he'll hit on pandemic studios. Like mercenaries or sabateur.

[@Kwad_rat]

@@JimXUltima Pandemic you say. Right now it's hot topic.

[@UnknownZealot77]

"If you dont like it, don't buy it." V: So it is written

[@fxmaster2571]

You literally took the top two messages and merged them

[@Lynch2507]

@@fxmaster2571 "all that, for a drop of clout?"

[@hihihi1q23]

It still sold millions of copies, though...

[@kodiiayyeee256]

@@hihihi1q23 cause morons will buy it. Just like call of duty which has been garbage for years now.

[@lukestover2207]

@@hihihi1q23 Doesn't matter in the end, because it did not reach the margin threshold that EA wanted.

[@MrLegokid12345678]

I ended up getting the game, and while I enjoyed it, it just wasn't as good as 1, plus I didn't like the fact that they took an actual event with a team of Norwegian commandos that took down an entire heavy water facility without firing a single shot, and replaced the team with a mother-daughter duo. Like come on man, if you want to use women in a WWII game, either do the actual stories with women in them, or just make up a mission that COULD have happened, don't replace stories with actual soldiers who risked their lives.

[@ardantop132na6]

*Soviet female snipers be like:*

[@IkeFromCN]

They are real female snipers fight at Eastern front. Since USSR was not fight against Nazis in some companies history book, DICE decided to just make thing up, what a good way to be woke!

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

werent there women in some major roles during ww2 anyways? why not include them somewhere?

[@pushyrummble8625]

@@iwakeupandboomimarat major roles is hard to find possibly, in the risitance in smaller towns yeah everyone was a fighter to survive even kids.

[@Quakefan7]

A good example of women in WW2 would be the Russian Night Bomber Regiment 588, the Night Witches. THAT would have been cool

[@WarBuilder5426]

Watching this now, it's hillarious seeing time repeat itself, even if for a different reason

[@ConscriptDavid]

Okay, you have to mention the fact that despite saying women DID serve in ww2, DICE did not include any of the militaries or factions that had women in it. There were no Soviets, Partisans, Chinese Forces (until way later), French Resistance, Polish Armja Krajowa or any other faction that historically DID include women. Instead, the women focused missions that they did had instead chose to erase the real life heroic deeds of the Norwegian resistance by replacing them with a fictional civilian mother and daughter duo.

[@tinazlk8854]

I agree. As a woman I felt this game tried to use us as a selling point when they actually didn't even bothered to make a cohesive story. What they did was to slap a weird, non sensical character that had no explanation of being over a broken, bugged, badly done game and tried to use it as a shield against criticism. In the end, because of lazy, stupid moves like this, there are many who automatically get angry over female game characters(specially as a protagonist).

[@sirjarko8762]

@@tinazlk8854 Agreed, What sucks is I personally would of loved a story or multiple of woman who actually fought in the war, Would of been awesome to see things from a new perspective but sadly no. Just rewrite over actual men who fought and died in the war and not include the woman who were in the war. Both men and woman were disrespected by DICE in the way they handled it.

[@sirjarko8762]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Yea I didn't really write that comment out to well to say the least. I did clarify by saying multiple woman stories and I stand by that. If they wanted woman in BFV they could of had it while being historically accurate along with men in the war to. Could of easily pleased the majority of people but instead rewrote over history and ignored the woman who actually fought in the war.

[@jimpatterson1111]

Everyone here would love the movie ‘U-571’. Now there’s a “historically accurate” WWII flick, lol…

[@jimpatterson1111]

They should have added US Army Japanese descent troops. Also, Native Americans. Fantastic history there, warts and all…

[@patmos09]

It was more than just the woman thing. That was just what the company focussed on as a meat shield to ignore all the other complaints people had about the cosmetics and tone.

[@ladyaceina]

ya know i dont think the female character thing would have gone near as bad if they had 1. used the real woman who fought in the war or 2. set it in a fictional event during world war 2

[@devynmalu]

Or they didn't insult and lie.

[@ladyaceina]

@@ExpertContrarian as i said they should have focused on REAL woman soldiers from world war 2

[@Nitro_0999]

You should do Other M. That would be cool to see

[@anothergamer112]

@Eli Nelson yeah we do. Games like it are the very reason this show was made.

[@printthelegends]

I actually like Other M. It's no Super or Prime, and it botches some of the narrative elements, but it's still a solid action game.

[@ironmaster6496]

@@printthelegends well yeah that is the EXACT problem, it destroys samus

[@Ramsey276one]

@@ironmaster6496 THE BABY

[@sharkuel]

T H E B A B Y

[@claytonrios1]

EA: Because actually respecting our employees and fans is just a waste of time!

[@sethlancaster9761]

Being a decent company costs too much apparently...

[@anonymousoff-brand7538]

@@SlowLearner-z3h ... not really?

[@dylancross1039]

@@SlowLearner-z3h The company voted as worst video game company what, 3 years running? Is that really a question you don't already know the answer to?

[@Ikcatcher]

Patrick Soderland basically killed BFV before it even came out

[@1980Shadowwolf]

If you dont like it dont buy it. Ah yes that backfired on him lol

[@josha5933]

Right... Because it's so objectionable to put women in a videogame...

[@dinsdag6juli2010]

@@josha5933 It's objectionable to appropriate historical conflicts. It's objectionable to pretend you need to 'educate' your audience about factually incorrect things. It's dumb to insult your target audience.

[@josha5933]

@@dinsdag6juli2010 if the target audience is so sexist they won't buy a game because there's a woman in the trailer then there are some serious problems with that community

[@maxelast9213]

@@josha5933 It's WW2, of course women won't be prominent in most battles except for the Soviets and some resistance movements in occupied countries. They could've focus primarily on the Soviets and marketed that way but of course they went out of their way an literally changed histories for no apparent reason, marketed the game as "authentic and immersive WW2 game". Then when people complained about it, they came out of their way to fight their own customers, saying things like "uneducated" or"if you don't like it, don't but it" and what not. Also, "sexist"? Just because people wanted a WW2 game with some historical accuracy?

[@gamerkingdom1442]

“ If you don’t like it, Don’t buy it” That quote alone describes nearly everything about the ridiculousness of EA. Glad you talked about this disaster.

[@DestinyZX1]

Only exception being Jedi Fallen Order

[@gamerkingdom1442]

DestinyZX1 okay yeah. That’s a good exception. But, for every Fallen Order, there’s 10 Games like Anthem. It’s like firing 100 bullets, but only 1 hits the target. And honestly, I feel like they had no choice but to make Order worth it.

[@ichabodlorax7585]

As opposed to "if you don't like it, buy it anyways"? Look, I get the general distaste, but why emphasize that quote as something dumb? That's practically the only smart, common sense thing an EA representative has ever said.

[@Житинеможливо]

"Battlefield V: Wha Happun?" ** Sounds about right.

[@KOAHUNT3R]

EA: Women fought in WWII! It's historically accurate. Also EA: *uses women that never existed* Night Witches: Are we jokes to you Comrade?

[@marsupialmole3926]

French resistance fighters, Chinese resistance fighters, Soviet snipers and even Soviet frontline soldiers. There were plenty of women who fought in WWII And yet EA went with a British frontline soldier with a prosthetic arm... what

[@memorycardgaming1148]

@@marsupialmole3926 And one teenage girl in the place of twenty Norwegian men..

[@WalkingthroughNYC]

@@marsupialmole3926 "plenty" what's the percentage of plenty?

[@enthiegavoir5955]

"Women were involved in WWII, which is why we apparently didn't put any real effort into our research, and never included any of the real examples." Another example of a big company trying to convince everyone that it's their friend and supports diversity, without actually following through with their promises beyond virtue signalling.

[@supremecaffeine2633]

@@WalkingthroughNYC Around 1% and That's being generous. I wouldn't be surprised if their were more child soldiers though.

[@AldenExMachina]

Matt: ”I don’t want to have to make another EA focused episode” EA, not more than 5 months later: “Hold my beer”

[@trinkeslato9598]

The reason Firestorm was abandoned was because Criterion was originally the ones doing Firestorm, the same Criterion from Battlefront 2. When Firestorm was released EA most likely put Criterion somewhere else and gave Firestorm over to Dice. They pushed out the small changes Criterion had made to the map and then called it a day, right after they threw away Duo's of course to try and save the queues saying it would "come back" eventually as events, they never did. So Dice was left with both BF5 base game, 2 other game modes AND Firestorm which was behind a paywall. A fucking disaster

[@francescolombardi3438]

V: So it is written

[@manuelalbertoromero9528]

No it's not.

[@cubanref9670]

The V stands for Vagina!

[@conkerthesquirrel8271]

It is their time to give penance

[@francescolombardi3438]

@@cubanref9670Urgina

[@ndz9818]

I wish there were Moore comments like this

[@ayysop1404]

“If you don’t like it, don’t buy it” That’s the plan!

[@BromarG]

Oh man this so sounds eerily similar to Battlefield 2042, can't wait for that What Happened video lol

[@angellara7040]

05:42 people didnt like that mission because despite the "historical accuracy" claim that mission erased the irl Norwegian commandos who did that

[@scythemouse]

"Loot boxes aren't gambling, they're just something that's ILLEGAL IN OUR COUNTRY OF ORIGIN!"

[@jaspertaylor2810]

Might I add BFV never had lootboxes, this guy straight up lied about that part..

[@kankeydong2500]

Bruh

[@EthanJewellDrones]

This comment is proof that these people hate on a game without even actually trying it.

[@anonymousoff-brand7538]

@@EthanJewellDrones it does have lootboxes. this is proof people will hate on a video without actually researching their own statements.

[@k1z4cz3k]

There is premium store with premium credits but no lootboxes.

[@boitahaki]

"If you don't like it, don't buy it." So refreshing to see them get what they deserve, for once.

[@franknova987]

You forgot to mentioned that even after Battlefront2 got great, they stopped supporting it because Battlefield V sucks in their eyes

[@DoctorCVC]

Remember, “their vision is complete”

[@klemen680]

Well let's be fair here, they can't support the game forever for free. Much as everyone would've loved more updates, DICE can't keep the lights on with praise alone. They really just need to make battlefront 3 and then copy what R6: Siege did at launch with their monetization.

[@GenerationWest]

The numbering alone on this series can be apart of a "Wha Huppun?" I know why it's numbered that way, but goddamn though! (They'll introduce Darth Talon or Mara Jade once they actually get introduced into canon, but after Ahsoka, like how was she not in BF2?! lol)

[@atak_1]

"prided itself on historical accuracy" is pretty untrue when it comes to both bf1 and bfv, bf1's uniforms were a total mess, and, although less so, was the fact that they gave EVERYONE AN AUTOMATIC GUN.

[@rrchicken117]

Bf1 is my most played battlefield game. If you want ultra realistic you'd be killed by artillery every 100 spawns with your bolt action sprinting into machine guns because Lt said so

[@atak_1]

@@rrchicken117 to be fair I still love bf1 lol, just stating that it wasn't particularly historically accurate

[@rrchicken117]

I was playing operations last night on Xbox (level 98). Near the end of the match I was killed, as I lay dying I watched my killer, by God that's a German... I didn't even know who I was fighting, they just turn into moving blotches at distance.

[@dac5782]

​@@atak_1 I'd say "historically authentic" would be a better choice of words, no?

[@PopularNobody]

It's funny because now all the 2042 hate has people praising BF5 like it wasn't an absolute mess that has been minimally updated.

[@TheLowBrassDude]

I keep forgetting Battlefield V was a thing. Why must you remind me?

[@Mewseeker]

To prevent history from repeating itself? :P

[@pandagamer-hg5be]

69th like

[@kanemello]

"Everything in one bag, but don't make it too heavy". That's a Liam quote I remember it.

[@SpyHunter89]

I remember it as a Simpsons quote, or close to it.

[@ChimeraMK]

@@SpyHunter89 "Sir, please! I've already bagged it by color and in order of each item's discovery by man."

[@ra.n9482]

Well to be honest the big reason why so many fans disliked the first trailer wasn't mainly because of women(though that certainly was a factor). It was mainly because of historical inauthenticity, something that BF1 never had a problem with. It is one thing to see a woman in soldier uniform and absolutely another to see a woman with mechanical arms and facepainting in battle. The marketing simply didn't preset the game correctly and the game itself had a lot of problems with being authentic to WW2.

[@AndyKazama2]

Drakengard apparently had a bad development cycle and was saved when Yoko Taro took over (much like Miyazaki and Demon's souls). Would love to see an episode on that.

[@iamTakuu]

*Battelfield 2042 sweating nervously in the corner*

[@caspercartwright9552]

don't worry 2042, your time will come

[@blackflame4506]

Time for another What Happun episode of EA's screw-ups with Battlefield 2042

[@daemonofdecay]

I actually legitimately get the grievances... but I also really did enjoy the gameplay. It never felt like it was a game ruined by major flaws, more a death of a thousand cuts.

[@EverydayYounglife]

I felt the same personally, it's still pretty fun to play

[@heiselproductions_01]

Alone in the Dark Matt, please. I suggest the 2008 game, Alone in the Dark (Inferno).

[@batatinhacomics]

Yes! Alone in the Dark Inferno please!

[@LordArikado]

Another good Alone in the Dark topic would be Illumination, the legendarily shitty Left 4 Dead ripoff that has nothing whatsoever to do with Alone in the Dark that Atari hoped no one would notice.

[@heiselproductions_01]

Haseo Reviews Yes, That, or probably the biggest video game movie disaster: Alone in the Dark (2003) by Uwe Boll. Alone in the Dark is honestly an interesting series, as not one game after the first one, with the exception of New Nightmare, was made without being rushed, underdeveloped, or both.

[@noahtroutman4787]

That's a spicy take on Mirror's Edge Catalyst. Can we expect a Wha Happun episode on that at some point?

[@overratum]

It's not even that spicy. Catalyst was a mishandling of Mirror's Edge on nearly every level, from concept to execution. You can't write an effective story about revolution where the status quo is preserved in the ending. Doubly so that that's not what Mirror's Edge was about in the first place.

[@docterfantazmo]

*Me:* Ah man, it's lunch time and I don't have anything to watch while I eat... *Matt busts from the woods, noodle arms flailing wildly.* *Matt:* WAH HAPPA!?

[@Eva01-jy2qu7pu9r]

“If you don’t like it, don’t buy it” Fans: *Doesn’t buy game* EA: wut

[@liammcguire1954]

Eva 01 the PR team of EA is straight up retarded

[@dopedepo]

@@ToruKurosawa I'll be honest and say I bought it right after launch. I put a lot of hours into BF1, the material shown in the trailers appealed to me, press reviews were decent aaaand I stopped playing BF V after about 8 hours. I didn't care for the drama leading up to release but all the missing game modes, features and bugs at release immediately killed the game for me. Never reviseted the game and with the end of the support cycle mid-year, I never will. Ah well, lesson learned.

[@AnimatedTerror]

Jaron Marles stadia wasn’t a success. Is that what you were saying?

[@liammcguire1954]

Animated Terror yeah that’s what he was saying. The reason the stadia flopped was because it was barely functional

[@FunZies.]

@@dopedepo I'm curious (not calling you out), but why did you trust EA to buy at launch? I just... don't understand how these companies keep making money after all their past, diplorable exploits with multiple titles. I understand the game appealed to you, but did you just ignore the warning flags EA had planted for themselves over the years? Again, just curious about another's perspective. :)

[@blaacksugar7714]

Y'know, you just described the KoF franchise with that Street Fighter analogy.

[@Hollyclown]

EA: if you don’t like it, don’t buy it. Me: a man after my own heart.

[@_______2107]

BF4 managed to recover from its abysmal beginnings and is still popular today, BFV was a steaming garbage dumpster fire at the start and is still a steaming garbage dumpster fire now

[@Thephantom95]

12:20 Great use of that scene from Bojack Horseman. Perfect way to describe EA in general.

[@ideitbawxproductions1880]

EA needs a friend like Todd

[@Thephantom95]

@@ideitbawxproductions1880 Respawn is Todd.

[@compatriot852]

Yeah women did not fight on the frontlines in WW2 as official soldiers. The only ones who did fight were conscripts due to low manpower (Soviet Union) or were civilian partisans (France) But at the same time, you were more likely to find children on the battlefield than women, such as the case of the Hitler youth and I don't think anybody would want to be shooting children

[@subinater]

Now we wait for the battlefield 2042 video

[@NicholasdeSousa]

Not listening to the fanbase is what happened. Have such great memories of 3, 4 and even 1 but V just doesn't have that spark

[@Santoryu90]

What about basically insulting the fanbase? That was definitely part of it.

[@jamessmith6123]

I remember when the controversy of having women in it happened. it's cuz not only was she a female on the front lines but she had a prosthetic arm. Then to top it off EA acted like if you don't like it don't play it. so people didnt

[@nick-0579]

Little did this man know that he predicted that the next BF game will have a fuck ton of numbers that spell out a date.

[@magdielchavez9399]

I was looking for this comment.

[@PapaRocks777]

This just made me wish Battlefield 1 servers were still populated.

[@KwadDamyj]

I can still find some full servers on PC, I just have to use the browser instead of matchmaking.

[@AceRevero]

Consoles servers are still running as well the last time I've played (I believe it was 4 months back)

[@moltar706]

@@AceRevero The base game map servers on console are still somewhat populated, but good luck if you want to play on any DLC maps, they've been abandoned for a long time.

[@AkiraFoxDoesntExist]

They are still populated

[@justafox5356]

Women in WWII is one thing. It was extremely rare for women to serve as front line soldiers but not 100% unheard of...female amputees, hell any amputee?! That’s what I found really fucking dumb but I don’t really play battlefield so it didn’t affect me.

[@AdventurerOfOblivion]

I'm glad it didn't do well. You don't insult and utterly disrespect your playerbase like that and then tell them not to buy the game and then expect it to succeed.

[@jeromebijtketa5979]

12:32 That - that REALLY didn’t age wel.

[@KitFoxboy]

They didn’t have to butcher accuracy to get women in. The Russians had an all female sniper unit in ww2 that had an astonishing kill count.

[@AustraStronk]

And they didn't have to change history like replacing the Norwegian soldiers and putting a girl and her mother there like where's the night witches the badass all female bomber squadron's

[@jonnysac77]

I really don't think they ever cared about historical accuracy and I'm not sure why it's a problem for Battlefield 5 but it wasn't a problem for Battlefiled which had automatic weapons as standard issue and solders in steel plate amour tanking bullets while wielding heavy machine guns, if historical accuracy is what's most important then you should probably play Red Orcestra or something

[@BrianLocke]

Geoff the truth is that it wouldn't have mattered how accurate it was. They just didn't want girls in the game. They sure as hell never gave a shit about any of the other stuff that was inaccurate in the game. That's not a defense of the games over all quality. Just pointing out how absurd the whole "there's girls in the game and the world is burning" outcry was.

[@Duskwalker68]

@@BrianLocke that's a terrible argument. Game mechanics and story plots are not the same thing.

[@owenlindkvist5355]

@@BrianLocke "They just didn't want girls in the game" Ever played Medal Of Honour: Underground? Trust me, we want women in games, kid. What we don't want is spurious crap shoved down our throats, then told that if we so much as point out the issues that we're sexist.

[@claytonjackson1809]

Okay, okay. I'll close the E.A. drawers. You don't have to yell dude. *Shuts filing cabinet*

[@mars009]

God this aged so well with how 2042 went

[@excaliburzx1134]

Welp, guess it’s time for Matt to cover Battlefield 2042 soon

[@Lynch2507]

So, the woman with the prosthetic arm DIDN'T kill the game, and in fact, Battlefield V's failure was a combination of numerous stupid decisions? Wow, the floor is indeed made of floor

[@manticore6963]

Won't change that idiots will pretend that it failed solely due to W O M E N and not because EA is a greedy company that makes tone-deaf decision after tone-deaf decision.

[@vikreps2488]

Yeah , it's not like the shitty handling of that situation affected the game "Don't like it,don't buy it , white women are the most oppressed minority"

[@michaelknox3715]

@@manticore6963 Agreed people need to look at the big picture and not be all. MUH SJWs BAD

[@boopsnoot3142]

@@Hybrid_Technique Do you just say words that you hear other people say? Or do you actually know what the concepts of "feminism" and "political correctness" are and why they exist?

[@Lynch2507]

@@Hybrid_Technique ah yes, cause we all hate *checks notes* equal rights.

[@kentuckycryptid]

"I hope that the next Battlefield will have enough polish, bug testing, and content at launch..." Let me put it this way, Matt: I bought 2042 at launch. I returned it the same day, and the GameStop cashier didn't even care that I already played it, he was just like, "Yeah, this game sucks, I don't blame you for returning it." I got Modern Warfare instead.

[@HeadsFullOfEyeballs]

7:40 Which was of course their own damn fault for making a WWI game that played and was framed exactly like a standard WWII game -- run-and-gun combat with automatic weapons, lots of vehicles, prominently featuring Americans, with the Germans as the villains. The two games _should_ have been quite distinct, but since they weren't prepared to take the risk that American Call of Duty bros wouldn't "get" WWI they ended up making the same game twice.

[@krisblaise8580]

This kind of blew my mind, spot on

[@KwadDamyj]

I still liked BF1, though. :

[@switchtheflip9422]

@@KwadDamyj it's a good game. Just not a good WWI game.

[@lukestover2207]

@@switchtheflip9422 Yeah, if you want a somewhat better representation of WWI, play Verdun

[@HeadsFullOfEyeballs]

@@KwadDamyj I thought it was fun enough to play, as well! Technically impressive, too. Just very safe and unoriginal and doing a real disservice to its historical setting.

[@Bloodfont89]

Oh boy, can't wait to see a Battlefield 2042 video.

[@csabaweisz8791]

Also one of the big problems was the blatant re-usage of weapons from Battlefield 1, but not the ones that played a significant role in WW2 too (Springfield 1903, C96), but the ones that were already prototype/minuscule in WW1 (Selbstlader 1906/1916, Ribeyrolles, Remington 8). I don't mind prototype weapons, but at least put WW2 prototype weapons in it and not reused BF1 assets

[@oatomsko]

Battlefield V was teased and torn apart, its launch was flaccid, it had some mediocre fun for a while, and then they decided to go against all of the fans say and patch the game to require a million bullets to kill someone. This game stunk from the start and fizzled out as a fart. I love the battlefield series, but this game was awful. you can still see the stink lines on it.

[@SuperChunk19]

It's hilarious how much of a new audience BF gained from BF3 and then went on to alienate that audience who fell in love with the BF formula in the further games

[@rooislangwtf]

The issue with EA is the people making the decisions aren't the people getting fired so they just keep making the same mistakes over and over again

[@LionHeart1189]

Still playing BF1 regularly, never even bothered touching BFV. Not as many ppl on, takes 5-10 min to find a game but its worth it.

[@FLAMINGBABYPUNCH]

If they have made the game's setting a fictional war instead of WW2. I doubt there would have been a huge backlash to this game. If they wanted to add nonsensical characters and cosmetics when they should've also made the game's tune match that instead going with the super dark retelling of WW2

[@NucleaRaptor]

Ah yes, I do remember storming the beaches of Normandy alongside a team of stronk empowered womyn of color equipped with dieselpunk prosthetics and katana swords.

[@kingbash6466]

BFV: You turned them against me. BO4: You did that yourself.

[@TekMerc]

12:48 I await the 2042 Wha Happun'.

[@RK-iq9uh]

The thing is that it wasn't just that women were in the game... It was that there was a British woman with a prosthetic arm, a barbed-wired cricket bat, and blue face paint in the game. It looks stupid. It is stupid. It isn't historical. It really confused the tone of what the game was supposed t be going for.

[@MrPuschel]

Yeah, it wasn't the sexist angle the PR department at EA tried to manufacture after the first trailer reactions. Most people where just bewildered by the trailer. But let's face it - we're talking "hardcore-gamers" here: if it had been a guy the backlash would've been less extreme. At least from a certain subset. I saw people online genuinely being pissed about having female sniper models.

[@billcosby66662the2nd]

She appeared like a bloody MOBA character, she did.

[@Lynch2507]

You didn't get to the part where he said why the "historical accuracy' part was stupid did you?

[@Mabasei]

historical accuracy? in the game where i blow up a chopper then jump in another one and blow another guy up then parachute out of said chopper? shut up nerd

[@bryanadkins6776]

@@Lynch2507 I still think it's a valid angle to take because it was a narrative that EA played to. They're the ones that looked down their nose at their player base over the matter and advertised the game as "telling the untold stories of World War 2" and then telling completely fictionalized versions of those stories.

[@pandagamer-hg5be]

"The allies had katanas and cyborg prostetics, right?" -random DICE employee

[@jackdaft258]

It's just a regular prosthetic arm that existed at the time of WWII my dude.

[@pandagamer-hg5be]

@@jackdaft258 ah yes, because ww2 age prostetics weren't stiff "recreations" of limbs that served more of an astethic purpose than a medical one and reserved for veterans

[@DarioLeonRincon]

@@jackdaft258 LOL, sure my friend, prosthetics back then had full movement...

[@finncapistrano9879]

Add Dead or Alive 6 to the Patreon polls, Matt! This game is MORE broken and unpromising than BFV.

[@LordArikado]

Not to mention the ridiculous amounts of overpriced DLC it has.

[@Haysey_Draws]

It is seriously wishful thinking that EA will give any of it's dev's time to polish and finish their games...ever! EA know only one rule, get it in store shelves by X date no matter what...*sigh*

[@soulfirerwby]

Can't wait for the battlefield2042 what happened

[@parkaman8901]

Does anybody remember a time when you played your $60 game and didn’t get bombarded with ads?

[@FrancisYorkMorganFBI]

They still make games like that. Just gotta stay away from trash tier studios like EA

[@saintatlaseffect6255]

"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man"

[@SpaceToast1]

I'm sure 2042 turned out great and is beloved by fans and developers alike.....right?

[@EtherealMoon]

I was trying to think of Michael Pachter's name like two months ago. GameTrailers loved posting his videos where he'd talk about how big his house was and make predictions about Nintendo that turned out completely wrong.

[@TheTGFreak24]

Battlefield 2042 is coming I can feel it

[@Brunhemoth]

So I joined a bf platoon while playing bf1. They thought I was fun to play with and ended up joining a good sized group with good, dedicated battlefield players (one of my friends had the highest bomber score in the world). When bfv came around, I didn't wanna buy it but leadership convinced me that shifting was important to stay relevant and grow our group. For over a year expanded and joined competitive groups, but dealt with shitty support, missing content, bugs, glitches, bullshit and delays. No one liked it really but we had to stick together. But once Warzone dropped, everyone abandoned battlefield v, even veterans that swore off of CoD forever. It's the only game I actually regret buying and hope the next title can bring it all back.

[@themaxshow100]

This one was never off to a great start...

[@sinistar6848]

BFV dropped on PSPlus this month, and it's been a blast. If the game had launched in its current state, it probably would've done fine

[@samueldawkins]

I'm not surprised that you like so many others misrepresented the problems people had with the unhistoric shoehorning of women into the game while calling people "uneducated" when they pointed out that women didn't fight on a particular front or battle. Black women didn't fight on the front lines for the US army period. That is a fact that cannot be refuted. You see women fighting in battles on fronts they never fought in. Dice could have avoided this by saying from the beginning that they were throwing historical accuracy out of the window. Instead of the infamous "uneducated lul" comment made by that simpleton. Or that horseshit story he told about his daughter, that I don't believe. It's interesting that people who never played the battlefield series and know nothing of the previous games are so sure that battlefield never took historical accuracy seriously. At least you avoided the pitfall that many stupid people fell into by comparing game mechanics to historical elements as if that is a good point or own.

[@samueldawkins]

@@jaronmarles941 of course you don't.

[@melsgamingvault]

Matt will make a Battlefield 2042 - What Happened for sure.

[@CharlemagneSupernova]

The name mostly likely stems from the fact that the letter V was a prominent symbol for Allied forces during WWII.

[@Gunnumn]

When the head at dice made the comment about his daughter playing fortnite and how he belived that she should experience wwii with people that looked like her, i began to have suicidal thoughts.

[@butthurtfanboy4291]

Let's be real. The whole argument of "Gamers are angry just because there are playable female characters" is really, really dumb.

[@cameronheaton9900]

You can be progressive or you can be realistic you can't be both.

[@Defines1776]

You’re wrong dude. People really value historical accuracy. Seeing a female marine on the shores of Iwo-Jima is a huge immersion breaker. Then you’re reminded they’re doing it for inclusion which makes you double pissed.

[@Jordan64852]

Yeah I didn’t care about the women at all but I still disliked the game; live service games are such a garbage term to me now

[@Jordan64852]

Cameron Heaton The battlefield series hasn’t ever been super realistic just more realistic than call of duty, I still remember the original 1942 using expermental weapons that weren’t ever used in the war

[@drakron]

@@Defines1776 True and worst, there were women that fought in WW2 such as Aleksandra Samusenko that was a T-34 tank commander so the whole "genderwashing" is even more insulting. Its not that "women fighting in WWII" is wrong but rather "not showing the actual women that fought in WWII and instead insert then were they didnt fought" because people will catch anachronisms like female marines in 1945 and will call on that. That funny enough makes then racist because Soviets had females on combat roles but we cannot show the Russians in any good light because we always been at war with Eastasia.

[@hazelgill5805]

I'm pretty sure BF1 has a more active playerbase than BFV does right now.

[@wannabe12g68]

Friendly reminder that no one was mad because women were present in the trailer. They were mad because their implementation within the time period was not reasonable or realistic.

[@SilverTypo5081]

You forgot to mention the mechanical hand that she had which makes your point stronger.

[@wannabe12g68]

Ultimate Waifu “not reasonable or realistic.” I got it lol

[@SilverTypo5081]

@@wannabe12g68 well it is always good to give examples.

[@MosesMedinaE]

Oh snap. Get to watch another awesome episode as I grind away whilst at work.

[@Alovon]

Well may need one for BF2042...although it may be a retread XD

[@BigHead2615]

8:06 - Oh, so basically what Blizzard has done with World Of Warcraft, in it's entire history! Seriously, every new expansion, ALL spells and abilities are changed, all character talent points and rotations are undone and players are left with re-figuring it out for themselves. Huh, I wonder why so many have basically kissed Blizzard's ass for such a long time when that bullshit was happening - meanwhile players get outraged over the same thing with Battlefield V.... Also, Blizzard has continually fucked so much up in WoW with every new expansion, but I'm not going to fill a comment with a wall of text detailing every single change, screw up, and every single time they gave players the middle finger.

[@tufbubblz]

You completely missed the whole "if you don't like what we did with the game, don't buy it" "we're always on the right side of history" schtick that one of the devs made. That was also a HUGE factor in why no one bought it. It wasn't just "oh there were women" it was the gamers being treated like babies and told to fuck off if they pointed out the hypocricy. Hell it's why i've never touched the game.

[@Lynch2507]

I mean, if you were genuinely angry that they put women in the game, you deserved being treated like a child. Maybe he left it out cause *SHOCK* it didn't really contribute to the failure of the game as much as you wish it did

[@tufbubblz]

@@Lynch2507 of course no one was genuinely angry if anything they were fuckin laughing about it because of how cringy they were by acting "so progressive"

[@tufbubblz]

@@Lynch2507 and no you're wrong it 100% is a reason tons and tons of people didn't buy the goddamn game. Many other battlefields since 3 have been buggy on release, that's not a new thing, and you are gonna act like this is different? Lmao fuck off.

[@matiassampieri9964]

11:56 well I guess EA didn’t learn anything…

[@elevendyfour]

If the shit wasn't free on the store few months back never would've touched it

[@IRidez]

Battlefront 2 is the only game dice has made since BF4 that I have had alot of fun with

[@sparklestonebro]

Well anyone with a brain listened to them, if you don't like it, don't buy it...

[@JakeTheVoice]

Weird how Matt never bothered to touch upon this moment; it might as well have been the killing blow for the game before it was even released.

[@sparklestonebro]

might not align with his political perspective

[@piotrwieczorek887]

Okay ngl, this episode is bonkers when you know what happened next and what a grand release bf2042 was. Cant wait for ep!

[@PersonaSama]

Morning, Matt!