Doom (2016) - What Happened?

[@megamage911]

I saw someone today complain that all you did in Doom Eternal was just go around killing demons... 7/10, too much Doom in my Doom.

[@psyko2666]

I want to sit down and talk to them. Listen to what they have to say. You know, start sacrifices and see where it goes...

[@Riprie]

Is it real? I mean, I would really love to educate someone on the history of doom, if they do not know what doom is all about.

[@Pazuzu4All]

ID Software: Yo dawg I heard you like Doom, so I put some Doom in your Doom Eternal so you could be twice as doomed!

[@StonexxDemonmaggot]

Top 4ce yeah, I saw a comment that said that Doom is boring. You don’t have to like Doom but DOOM being boring??? GTFO lmao.

[@ehoffart529]

Was it on Jim Sterling's review of Eternal? Jim pinned a comment complaining that once you play the first 5 minutes you've played the entire game.

[@GenerationWest]

When a "What Happened" turned out well in all factors, you don't see many stories like this, but when you do, it's moments like this! You love to see it.

[@Sonichero151]

It's like coming across a unicorn that let's you pet it and in return it gives you gold and a chicken sandwich

[@ethanstatler1827]

Indeed.

[@guiltygearalonecompl]

I remember being right there with the doubters before it came out, been a long time since I was that happy to be wrong

[@Cyberweasel89]

Was I the only one who found it adorable to hear the sheer enthusiastic joy in Matt's voice when he was gushing about how genuinely great this game is? Like, you could really tell that even though he was reading from a script he wrote, he couldn't stop his own enthusiasm as a fan shining through.

[@keithgawain3614]

Are there any other what happened videos covering games that turned out well? Just watched the Metal Gear Rising one and this one, Doom

[@larkhainan]

Hugging and fishing? HUG AND CARE, MATT, UNTIL IT IS DONE.

[@assassinofbloodandhonor9866]

@@devcrom3 Cook and fry it's guts,COOK AND FRY

[@Cyberweasel89]

I love that he slipped in that reference to Animal Crossing: New Horizons. That crossover is so wholesome, the fanbases have even gotten to be all bros over it (part of this being the games aren't competing with each other), and both Id AND Nintendo have made public statements acknowledging it. Nintendo says it proves how games can bring people together, while Id wants Doom Slayer in Smash. XD

[@skinnermclane4467]

Pete "The Mouth of Sauron" Hines Dude. That's a perfect way to describe anybody in the position of "Company scapegoat who has to give bad news." Just slap that helmet on them.

[@takashi0100]

Bethesda's Company Scapegoat is Todd Howard tho, Pete Hines DESERVES the flak he gets.

[@xXLiLJokerXx]

I like to think Carmichael's last words to his co-workers was rip and tear until it is done

[@Cyberweasel89]

After he tried to use corporate speak in an interview to deny being a liar about it, I actually personally looked up Pete Hines's "The Atomic Shop is cosmetic stuff" and "no paid DLC for Fallout 76" Tweets just to tell him what a liar he is.

[@zynet_eseled]

Todd "Snake Oil" Howard

[@KTKomedy2813]

This is interesting. A Wha Happun about a great game that went through hell during development and production but succeeded beyond everybody's expectations. Hope to see more of these stories on the show in the future.

[@sethleoric2598]

This game mustv'e been destined to succeed because Doom will always fight through hell

[@donpacificbobcat9er615]

Lol, went through hell!

[@lennywright5655]

To make the ultimate DOOM reboot legit you’d have to go through HELL!

[@TheSaNdMaN5000]

*GET IT?! GOING THROUGH HELL*

[@KTKomedy2813]

Is every reply to my comment just gonna be the same damn Hell pun?

[@chainsawcharlie965]

The scariest part of DOOM (2016): *It was almost a COD clone*

[@BlackHippy313]

Pretty much what duke nukes forever became

[@fun-epersonnproductions4002]

*chills intencifise"

[@Sonichero151]

*Jesus fucking christ how horrifying*

[@diddlenfiddle7311]

Considering how much I've loved DooM 16 and Eternal (Eternal is in my top 5 games of all time) that thought is actually horrifying

[@LloydTavner]

I feel like now that we have Doom and Eternal a COD-like spinoff without the regenerating health could be a fun side game for between releases if handled by a secondary team so not to delay the main games. Really help put in perspective how badass the Doom Slayer is seeing the same conflict through a normal soldier's pov

[@Mistheart101]

I was a little confused upon seeing this, but fortunately I recalled "Oh yeah, the pre-release stuff was worrying as hell," instead of instantly writing a confused-rage comment. edit: oh god, hearing electronic arts get mentioned made me SO PANICKED. and i didn't even realize how rough the development was, either.

[@RaylaEclipse]

Imaging being so engrossed in the EA hate bandwagon that you panic at the sound of their name.

[@Fakie420]

Don't worry about him, he's just sad his Dark Souls video making career didn't pan out.

[@RaylaEclipse]

@@Fakie420 the best you can do in terms of a reply is not prove me wrong that panicking at the mention of EA is silly, but to insult me for videos I uploaded years ago with zero intention of making a career out of it.

[@gwakkkroniicler6400]

@@RaylaEclipse Considering EA's track record, it's a justifiable hate.

[@Fakie420]

@@RaylaEclipse Alright, fine. He didn't even mention EA in his comment, you troglodyte. Satisfied? And on top of that your videos are still dumb.

[@calmingvoice8646]

It's so funny how Doom was almost exactly like the "If Doom was made today" videos.

[@nahuelahpa1881]

Yeah, it was not a great game, very repetitive which makes it playing more than one time through it a chore, overall it has a lot of problems, like replacing level design with arenas. Eternal was a little better but also had a lot of issues. Overall, wasted potential.

[@Geassguy360]

@@nahuelahpa1881 Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.

[@entruh4520]

@@Geassguy360 agree

[@hystericallover5989]

@@nahuelahpa1881 "which makes it playing more than one time through it a chore" then like, don't play it? you obviously hate the game, so why would you play it again? thats not a problem with the game, thats just you being incompetent

[@diegoantoniorosariopalomin4977]

If I recall correctly, that is because Doom 2016 was influenced by fan mods

[@zomgl2pnoobffs]

I bet corporate pushed multiplayer so that they could have a "touch point" (i.e. money-grabbing system) with players.

[@anotherinternetperson8495]

They sold like 3 bonus guns that were different but not op I loved it and wish it returned

[@drivanradosivic1357]

@@anotherinternetperson8495 with the hype about Doom Eternal, people go buy Doom 2016 to prepare for Eternal. That includes the Multiplayer. I consider Magnificent and Metal DOOM 2016 and Fun, Hilarious and Underrated Battleborn are the better of the three Major May 2016 games

[@dismantleminesyesss8529]

@@anotherinternetperson8495 and made it all free in 2017 as well

[@civotamuaz5781]

No, they mustn't kill the Quake franchise with Doom arena shooter that's why they had to do something else, anything so that why MP is kinda lacking (i have never actually played it but i have a feeling that people are way too bitter about it)

[@hovis_esports]

civota mu az You mean that the doom eternal mp is lacking? I'm glad to tell you that you're mistaken, and it is one of the most intense and fun mp's I've ever played. You should try it out

[@Kannamoris]

Shout out to my boy Civvie for making a cameo!

[@Soulless261]

Ye

[@GoldsmithonyX]

Watamote is great

[@berk3494]

@@Soulless261 this is getting out of hand now there are two of you!

[@datguyuno98]

This is the 3rd Doom related video I've seen that had a Civvie reference. Civvie's gonna be gettin those big shout out views now

[@wana3667]

uwu

[@hemangchauhan2864]

It's Bethesda, who was still looking for "longevity" in their games at the time (because that creates "consumer engagement") Which is why they were so heavy on multiplayer and Snapmap. ID was REALLY excited for Campaign, but those weren't the ones promoting it.

[@tanyifan4261]

I just don't understand why they didn't add the thing that would really give a game longevity, mod support.

[@Typanoid]

@@tanyifan4261 Probably because of the higher-ups doubting the success of the game, their lacking understanding of single-player games being potentially popular with some people, and thus unwillingness to allocate funding to the development of said mod support. I think Marty Stratton later stated in an interview that coding mod support into a game is very complicated and has to be considered from the very start of a game's development cycle. You can't code a game that works and then suddenly slap "mod support" code on top of it and still expext the game to still function correctly. Doom 2016 had a very troubled development cycle, so the development of the actual Doom 2016 game had to focus on the game itself, making it fun, making it DOOM, making it functional and making it stable.

[@asarnatskiy]

Honestly, if Id Software would develop Alternate Doom, like Hell Invasion on Earth (in Doom Eternal) but from the prespective from a soldier from ARC, I would try it out. Such a story could work. Start the story as a dark horror invasion (not all demons at once, and first few demons be hard to kill) and steadily work towards rip and tear. See your character progress from a casual policeman, which finds anomalies and just tries to survive in a dark building.

[@cherno8119]

Call it Doom: Invasion (following the naming scheme of the two movies since this would obviously lean more on story and atmosphere than gameplay)

[@epic8923]

so basically doom 3 edit: Except it takes place on earth rather than on Mars.

[@rugedas87]

No. Just no. You think you do, but you don't.

[@Randomyoutuber-4831]

@@rugedas87 I mean it SOUNDS good, but we know better than that.

[@gonintendo1]

So kind of like those half life expansions?

[@cri_c]

4 years later and still one of my favorite shooters. I'll tell you what happened, a miracle

[@blackfrost9011]

Chri_C hard to believe it’s already been 4 years. To this day nothing has really topped it if you ask me

[@RidaRyokoShaBeacoNofHope]

@@blackfrost9011 Doom Eternal: *unholy laughter*

[@cri_c]

I got Doom Eternal today and i've been playing for 8 Hours straight...help

[@velkylev4217]

I bought doom 2016 4 days ago to get ready for new doom , been playing it like crazy . Holy shit what a game . I love it , and new doom is actually much better that 2016 . My god

[@Cyberweasel89]

It really is goddamn amazing how well this game turned out, especially when our expectations keep getting lowered these days. Like Matt said, captured what made the original good, focused on the bloody aplomb of killing demon after demon, added JUST the right amount of modern innovation, high-key edgelord shit in the best way, and that soul-shredding music. Plus, while Matt didn't mention it, you can see it in the footage. Doom Slayer may not speak, but every action he does just oozes personality. Just... {chefs kiss}

[@LuisGarcia-lj2bp]

The original concept for DOOM 16 was basically the hero track on Shadow the Hedgehog.

[@AdventDoom]

All hail Doom Guy! Demons rise again. Rip and Tear everything that's not your friend.

[@tvgg1]

@@AdventDoom I laughed so hard. You're a true hero.

[@VJ2099]

Nothing can stop you now! Nothing can bring you down! There’s nothing left to lose! You WIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNN!!!

[@ketrub]

aka Half-Life 2

[@Batman-py8kf]

You should do Bioshock Infinite I love that game but I heard the development process was kind of stressful and a bunch from the game got cut and would like to see wha happun.

[@Orion_The_Merchant]

Oh man, if you compare what we got to what was shown at one of the E3 demos, it's incredibly different. Elizabeth was going to have a different (more interesting in my opinion) role, the Skyhook would have been more prominent in levels, it was going to be more open environment wise. The game looked pretty different and I wish that's the version we got.

[@nelzillaz]

Infinite was fucking TRASH

[@Brunosky_Inc]

Infinite is an interesting game. Immediately after release people were talking about it like this awesome game's game, but after a few months the general opinion took a really hard turn to the opposite direction.

[@bryanmoberg8408]

yeah, thats another one that had a HUGE gap between reveal and seeing ANYTHING about the game, and it had huge delays, then after release the studio head quit gaming and closed Frictional entirely...gotta be an interesting story there.

[@miguelrobb5719]

Foxhound 248 I have been following bioshock infinite since 2010 when the trailer dropped. 3 years later when it released in 2013, it almost a completely different game. It even tried so hard to be a typical call of duty game. I was so disappointed

[@TasteeGhoul]

Gimmie a "Hell yeah" for the Civvie cameo!

[@BBBAzazel]

Hell yeah!

[@ThePseudonoob]

Hell yeah!

[@jasonglebe3235]

Pro Doom Eternal when, Civvie?

[@exiledPostman]

Hell yeah!

[@bloodhazard67]

HEEEEEEEELLLLL YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!

[@xavier8951]

Here are my suggestions: The Quiet Man, Left Alive, Scalebond, Final Fantasy XIV (Original Ver.) & XV, Assasin's Creed Unity, Watch Dogs 2 and Ghost Recon: Breakpoint.

[@hairypancake]

@@ApexFilms Just cover all the Halos after Reach in one general video...they all need some explaining for that on-going train wreck.

[@slashkamei]

yeah FF14 for sure

[@russellbrown6888]

@@ApexFilms We need one on Halo 2, because it had a very rocky development. Bungie made a very powerful game engine that they wound up having to tone down immensely because the original Xbox couldn't handle it, heck, even high-end PCs at the time would have struggled to run it. Even when the 360 launched they couldn't run the engine to its full potential. Only with Destiny 2 (which uses the same engine) has that engine been able to be fleshed out in its entirety.

[@zeroeleven6551]

@@ApexFilms Raycevick has covered all the Halo games in a bit more of a review style in his "Years Later" series which goes into the production side of things a decent amount.

[@finderman5774]

I dunno man, 15 imo was a fantastic game, well marketed, and well handled. 14... yeah that probably deserves the treatment.

[@RobertSeeJen]

The journey from Call of Doom to Doom 4 to Doom 2016 was always fascinating to me. Thank you for making this video.

[@UltimaShadowX]

Everything happened.

[@thecreepycuck6036]

Ultima where is ur thumbnail from i need to know this for “research”

[@ianduarte1992]

My pasta is getting dry brother

[@thecreepycuck6036]

ian duarte idgi 🙄

[@SonGara]

I was at that Quakecon when it happened and it's still one of the best things I've ever seen. That demo plus the reactions from the crowd was fucking amazing. The word going around then was that the reason they only showed it to us was their way of apologizing of giving us the run around and failed promises about having something to show about Doom 4 from conventions past.

[@fawfulmark2]

When a game development story suddenly turns into The Divine Comedy.

[@bobbywrtm]

How about What Happened with Fire Emblem Awakening, that was the Intelligent Systme last hope project and it was a homerun for them

[@Kain5th]

Good one

[@granmastersword]

but said homerun that revitalized the franchise also just happened to be the entry that divided the fanbase greatly, with the old school fans who missed the difficulty and story quality of the previous games and the new fans who love it and Fate religiously. Oh man, that division was quite the salt fest

[@Cyberweasel89]

@@granmastersword Odd... Don't they have Classic Mode for those old school fans? I've never played a FE fan since I'm terrible at turn-based strategy, so I only know from osmosis from friends who play it. Was there a problem with Classic Mode that disappointed those old school fans? Or was Classic not added until Fates?

[@ShiningSpear]

@@Cyberweasel89 Classic mode exists, yeah, but the game is still comparatively easy with it on. That said, as a guy who started his FE journey with 7, I appreciate both the new and old series. People gotta be open to change.

[@Cyberweasel89]

@@ShiningSpear True dat! Change by itself isn't inherently good or bad.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

"(...)Published by EA" Oh no! "But then it changed" Oh, good. "Bethesda" Oh, damnit!

[@greenrooster9274]

shytende aka Tamanoir definitely a lesser of two evils

[@andywilliammockzek]

Back then ea had a division called ea partners where they would published games by independent studios and the studio would keep the rights. At the time I think Id deal with activision (who was publishing there games since 97) ended and they probably wanted to go to a new publisher. They were wary of ea due ti some a negative experience they had with them in the past. But I think it was valve who talked them into it since they had no problems with ea who published there games since 2007 starting with the orange box. And Id agreed and signed up. And if it was not Bethesda buying them in 09 it would have came out by them. Around that time ea was starting to really turn there image around. But in 2011 they started winding down ea partners and then we'll we all know what has happened since then

[@RabidXCpanda]

Just like doomguy himself the game fought its way out of hell. Poetic

[@EnigmaticMan]

I remember everyone looking down on this title, including you and the others, and then it came out and just SLAPPED

[@CyberBlaed]

I still dont see it as doom, upgrades, rpg elements.. not really doom to me

[@ianduarte1992]

@@CyberBlaed to me it is, the modern influences arent somwthing that drives it too much away from the originals imo. But to each its own i supose.

[@noxus158]

@@CyberBlaed welp you're missing out

[@Dr.Faustus.]

@@CyberBlaed play call of duty if you want the same product over and over

[@AkumaKristian]

@@CyberBlaed There's a Symphony of the Night joke in here somewhere. That aside, Doom to me is about the fast paced action and exploration and in my opinion everything they added fed back into that. That's just my take though.

[@patrickchaney]

5:40 Okay, I admit it... “Call of Doom” is one of the best names I’ve ever heard...

[@MoonlightStrider]

Sounds like the title to a really dirty grungy metalcore song that probably includes the words "Festering" "Septic" and "Darkness" in the lyrics

[@patrickchaney]

MoonlightStrider Sounds like the kind of music we would’ve gotten in Call of Doom...

[@ProjectASkate]

So basically we dont need a "No Mans Sky what happened?" since Internet Historian beat ya to it.

[@alexohkay]

I'd watch it.

[@DamonMichener]

​@Pinkamena Pie I'd say it's a trade-off between quality vs quantity. Matt's series here covers a lot of games in fairly formulaic/episodic fashion, while Internet Historian releases fewer videos covering fewer topics (and certainly fewer games), but it's like a full-on documentary production in comparison. That said, I do like both.

[@wubbawubba3396]

Why can't they both do it? Only because one person covers it, doesnt mean that person has the rights to that subject all to themselves.

[@cheetodust8051]

I remember the multiplayer beta, and I also remember the most ridiculous "reviews" for it on steam. One complained there were no damage numbers, I guess not realizing there was a setting to turn it on. One even complained that there were "kill streak awards like call of duty"

[@TonyTwoBalls]

With Civvie's appearance and the Rage timeline, I just kept hearing "That John Goodman car game"

[@Kris-ck2md]

The Civvie cameos always tickle me.

[@Cyberweasel89]

Uh, who is Civvie?

[@Kris-ck2md]

@@Cyberweasel89 Civvie-11, youtuber who mostly does videos on older/retro-styled shooters.

[@Cyberweasel89]

@@Kris-ck2md Ah, thank you!

[@p.m.4993]

You should probably do one of these for Hiveswap. It's a single-player multi-chapter adventure game based off the Homestuck IP, it had of the most successful kickstarter campaigns of all time, and it's still in development, and since 2018 virtual novels further exploring the Homestuck IP have been put out by the development team behind it as a way to tide fans over and make sure money keeps coming in. Development started around 2012. Development has been ongoing for more than 7 years and it's likely not even halfway done yet.

[@hari4com]

There was probably this one guy who kept pushing the single player against all odds. I salute you guy

[@jorts_master69]

This game had no right to turn out so well, and I couldn't be happier with the end result.

[@AllanCostaDom]

it's weird because this game got me on the get go, when the doctor is talking to the Doom guy saying "it was for the good of mankind" and he looks down and see a corpse, smashing the monitor and flashs DOOM on the screen i was "OH BOY"

[@chocobros1]

How about a Wha Happun on all the upgrades I have to get for my computer to run Doom Eternal on good settings, like damn

[@mrblooper1994]

It's a well optimised game actually. Mid range PCs go over the 100 fps just fine on 1080p

[@TheRogueWolf]

It runs spectacularly on high settings on my i7-8700 and GTX 1070.

[@spaceburger7462]

BRO TURN OFF STEAM OVERLAY IT DROPS LIKE ALL OF THE FRAMES (THIS IS A KNOWN BUG)

[@chocobros1]

@@spaceburger7462 oh shit thanks man. I never knew

[@jamescarrino3696]

Doom Eternal somehow runs better than Doom 2016 on my GTX 1060 6GB. I kept muttering about black magic when I was playing.

[@keybladesrus]

Final Fantasy XIV would be a great episode. It would even have a happy ending.

[@roreah]

Actually, the VERY FIRST Final Fantasy has an amazing story behind it

[@Kwatcher100]

EpileF Felipe True. It was set to be the company’s FINAL game before closing down.

[@kylejones8289]

Final Fantasy XV would also be interesting in that while it was no Duke Nukem Forever, it was in development for almost a decade, went through numerous staff and direction changes, and even started life as a FF XIII spinoff, but was still pretty well-received upon release.

[@entruh4520]

@@kylejones8289 ff xv had a very interesting development cycle

[@lacasadelvideojuego3880]

I second this one, FF XIV development is just pure history of how Yoshida save square Enix and ff ip.

[@GabeSweetMan]

It's time Matt. Induct Doom Slayer into the Edgetorium.

[@SteelShroom256]

Funny you should say that... there's a section in the Slayer's Fortress of Doom called the *_RIPATORIUM._*

[@Cyberweasel89]

I have to say, it was weird seeing someone use "edgelord" as a compliment for once. But I totally agree with Matt! YOU CAN'T TOP THAT

[@AzureDragoonGX]

0:10 To this day, I still cannot tell if in the intro, that is someone laughing or the set is moving into place.

[@entruh4520]

Pretty sure its a laugh

[@TheAshura858]

Id software revolutionizes the fps genre and gaming in general with Doom in 1993. 13 years later id software : i'll fuckin do it again

[@Phantom_Kraken]

Mate, I haven’t even seen the video yet and what the bloody hell are you on about making a WHA HAPPUN on DOOM!?!!?! YOU GOT ME RIGHT LIVID,BUCKO Thanks for the heart😁(I think it’s gone because i edited which sucks but I’m still happy about it👍)

[@notanimufailzone]

I'm so glad Doom 2016 came out in such an amazing state. Doom franchise is my favorite shooter franchise. Doom 2016 was my favorite game until just a few days ago when doom eternal came out.

[@Canalbiruta]

Literally my case. If you'd ask me till eternal's release, which was my favorite fps, i'd probably say doom 2016. Than eternal came and injected dmc crazy arms system into the demons and weapons, and oh my god switching between 3 weapons to obliterate a mancubus was and still is one of the best things i experienced in fps in my entire life!

[@howardatlas4543]

Gotta love that classic Doom OST as bg music.

[@beybladermdm2009]

So since the show is about troubled productions can we expect one on the FFVII remake anytime soon?

[@coreylineberry8557]

Grima the Fell Dragon Deserves it, especially with the DLC debacle.

[@kamurotetsu4860]

May as well just call it Square Enix...what happened?

[@Vexominous]

@@unicorntomboy9736 It's not about being bad, but about the development hell that it suffered

[@beybladermdm2009]

@Grima the Fell Dragon kzbin.info/www/bejne/rGnPp3SnlN6jldk this a video eye patch wolf about it.

[@bryanmoberg8408]

15 is probably a better fit, as far as we know FF7 was more like RE2, just announced too early, but had a relatively smooth production schedule. (especially compared to FF13,14, and 15 which all ran into huge issues) FF7's dev time was 5 years give or take, which is...pretty normal for a big production like this.

[@MrVitalic85]

This is my first encounter of doom 2016: I was less of a gamer at the time. Retired pc gamer, I was still playing a bit of xbox 360. Then out of nowhere, I saw a demo for doom 2016 ( 1 week before release date) . I was absolutely not aware of the new doom. After playing the demo on pc, I shat my pants, bought a gtx 980 and bought the game at release. Thinking of this game always tears my eyes. I played 100h of solo campain. I’l wait a little while before buying eternal because covid, but tonight I’l play some 2016 again!

[@Cyberweasel89]

I think this was the game that caused you to fall in love with video games! We all have one. Believe it or not, mine was Pokemon Snap for the Nintendo 64. Christmas gift from the grandparents when I was still single digit age. My only experience with vidya before then had been NES arcade ports. Pokemon Snap opened me up to a whole new world, now here I am with a broad list of genres in both the casual and hardcore demographics in my library.

[@Canalbiruta]

@@Cyberweasel89 ikr, sonic 3 & knuckles was my case, and the game that made me fall in love with the fps genre was doom 1. Funny enough i was getting very away of the fps genre when 2016 came out... Let me just say the game was the shit

[@TheBeardedFrogSage]

4 years and still no "What Happun?" about the Doom movie starting Dwayne "The Rock" johnson and Karl Urban. I am so so SO sadge because dude, seriously, what happun??

[@arnaldoalange3869]

Is good to hear this type of Stories, who had a "Good Ending"

[@slavpepe6581]

This one might be a bit difficult to make a video on, but the original Hellboy movies with Ron Perlman were promised to cast and crew to become a trilogy that would wrap up the whole story, even having the second movie ending on a cliffhanger, to this day Ron Perlman is pissed off about what happened and I think it would make a really good wha happun since we all know how bad the attempted reboot was

[@borediideath6526]

It takes serious balls for a game studio to say “FUCK IT” and stop chasing trends.

[@RobertoCCantu]

I remember getting Wolfenstein: The New Order when it came out and seeing the “DOOM Multiplayer Beta Code” thing on the box and being hyped as hell for a new Doom game. Then the game took so fucking long to come out, I forgot about it and got re-hyped after seeing the trailer .

[@astralharmony3742]

It sucks that Wha Happun? has garnered a reputation for tackling only terrible games. Even some of the best games out there can have arduous and downright insane journeys from being the twinkle in a developer's eye to their eventual release. All of those fascinating stories deserve to be told.

[@moonraven6145]

And best of all with DOOM 2016's success, with Eternal being in layman's terms "Fucking awesome", it shows it wasn't the rare case of the stars aligning resulting in a fluke success either.

[@tychoazrephet3794]

Every time Pete Hines gives an interview now I want his marquee to say: "Bethesda Marketing Mancubus"

[@Cyberweasel89]

Mancubus?

[@storiesfromtheabyss9808]

That original Doom idea would've maybe been cool as a side-quel or DLC honestly. Imagine being some generic soldier guy and then having a bit where you get a third person view of Doom Guy just slaughtering his way through hordes of enemies.

[@Sarahm2261]

So doom 3?

[@firuzmajid4780]

I like this idea of Vudeogames that were supposed to fail, but it didn't.

[@loveangelflonne1733]

not gonna lie, it makes me happy knowing doom didn't go that route. 90's shooters route that is, that was kinda gonna scare me.

[@RuneGrey]

I think the statement that it would have been good is fair, it just would not have been Doom. When they discuss the concept I occasionally think 'the vision sounds interesting, and it might have been fun to play, but I'd definitely not trade the current modern Doom games for it'.

[@AKAProm]

Nice Happy VIdeo Game Nerd reference with the "YOU CAN'T TOP THAT"

[@emanuelmalineanu1399]

Really looking forward in seeing more of these “What Went Right?” vids!

[@thefartofthecards759]

Great video Matt. You taught me a lot about doom 2016 I ain't know before. And its just great to hear you talk about a success for a change.

[@phantomspaceman]

The whole premise for Doom 4 was similar to Hellgate:London. I reiterate that HGL was also a colossal and multifaceted trainwreck that you have yet to cover.

[@S1nwar]

doom 2016 is like the happy end duke nukem never got

[@Cyberweasel89]

I have to say, it was weird seeing someone use "edgelord" as a compliment for once. But I totally agree with Matt! YOU CAN'T TOP THAT

[@TabularConferta]

I'm glad I stuck with this. Having never watched any of your stuff before I did have the initial question of "Wait why is doom here", which you flat out called out on in the first couple minutes. Thanks for the insight into the dev of Doom.

[@jesterbomb6763]

Doom 2016's multiplayer was the shit. Like that was some of the most fun I've ever had in a multiplayer game. Damn shame they didn't bring it back.

[@granmastersword]

well, many players complained that the MP wasn't anything like the single player experience, so for Eternal they made the MP a bit more in line with the single player experience, with one player being Doomguy trying to prove they are a badass while 2 other players being demons do their best to fend off against him

[@diegov1743]

I hope they refine it and bring it back with a Quake reboot

[@Sonichero151]

It's almost impossible since the absolute W that was Doom and Doon Eternal that there was a time people were skeptical and somewhat cynical of Doom 2016...... ID had taken a nasty plummet, Rage underperformed, Carmac was gone, the studio was in a civil war.......... in most stories this would have ended in the game's death and the death of ID...... but against all odds, as potent of a miracle as christ risen, ID got back up from that fall, looked back to their roots and made not one, but Two absolutely amazing Doom games..... finally..... a happy ending......

[@Hawkstar270]

Not gonna lie, during the "highkey edgelord stuff" shot, I was kind of expecting a superimposition of the video of Homer saying it to fade in.

[@AllanMcKay]

🙏👊🙏 TEAM FORTRESS 2

[@TheWisdomBear]

I’d love to see a video on George Miller’s Justice League: Mortal.

[@Sm0k3turt]

Stories like these are a miracle from god

[@AlexTsekot]

Civvie! Amazing work on the video, go watch the noclip interviews with marty and hugo from ID, they really explain how the game became what it is today, its really good dev insight.

[@ronaldderosa]

It was fascinating seeing the 2016 coverage. It really turned on a dime from "man this looks like it's going to be bad" to "man this thing's amazing." Doom 2016 was one of two games whose single-player demo sold me on the purchase (the other being the original BioShock). The opening of Doom was really a great way tutorial into not just the controls, but the gameplay and overall scope of the game.

[@hhtptai]

I have Doom 2016 on my Switch, freaking love it!

[@Ainsley_the_meat_rubber]

8:45 WHY HAVE I NEVER SEEN THAT!!??

[@Erryx]

Sooo, a potential "Wha Happun" of Digital Extremes in the future? (Around Warframe/Dark Sector)

[@dm-so1st]

I wouldn't have minded the original vision of Doom 4. It would've been fun to see what Hell on Earth would've been like at its very infancy playing as your average human soldier, where the zombie soldiers end up being expanded upon with different types and what used to be push-over demons like imps becoming far more dangerous. Had they called it Doom 4, then yeah, I'd take issue with that... but like Valve and Half-Life: Alyx, I think if they'd have made it clear that it's a spin-off or its own thing, I don't think most people would've minded so long as it didn't feel too much like Call of Duty.

[@todangtall]

I haven'y fully watched the video. But I expect a visit from Mr. Crunch.

[@benhaver9737]

The original build of Doom 4 actually looks cool. But not as a doom game. If it was made into its own IP then it would be a pretty cool idea in my opinion. An Average guy forced to survive a world literally Damned. You can’t deny that sounds badass in its own way.

[@Varryance]

This was such a good addition to WH. I love how you keep coming up with new ways to cover the same idea to bring us better and better and hilarious videos! Shifting into movies was fun! but doing good games that overcame the corporate BS standing as a triumph to those who know and love the industry was perfect! Thanks for being such a mindful and genuinely fun content creator!

[@PelinalDidNothingWrong]

The cancelled "Doom 4" could actually be pretty good if it was re-worked as a spinoff title about the human resistance on Earth that we hear about in Doom: Eternal. It could help fill in the gap between 2016 and Eternal

[@Acrysalis]

When I heard Bethesda was in charge of Doom, I was so worried. When I saw the trailer for it I was skeptical but excited, and I seriously could not imagine how good of a game they could have made, it's impressive.

[@Animefan1803]

Gotta say a DLC for Doom Eternal where you play a normal resistance guy that has to survive against the demons while the Slayer shows up a few times in a cut scene would be really cool. You could change the gameplay by for example not healing with glorykills.

[@PurpleTurtle-t4q]

Can you do a What Happened on The Witcher 3? That's my favorite game of all time but my god the story behind it is a mess

[@Islandswamp]

I love how in the original doom and doom 2, they bob the screen as you wall like you're actually walking, which looked realistic compared to wolfenstein 3D

[@ThePapranazi]

YA GOTTA DO MARVEL NEMESIS RISE OF THE IMPERFECTS

[@zoidsfan12]

The fact you included one of civvies wonderful descriptions of John Carmack boosts this video so much for me.

[@brandonkays3005]

In the spirit of games by id alumni, I'd love to hear about Ion Storm's other world class success, Anachronox

[@KingREDEADED]

I'm just super happy to hear that 16 bit version of Angry Chair bro, thanks Matt

[@sadiqs5104]

I'm not going to lie, after playing Eternal, 2016's gameplay just *looks* slow in comparison.

[@kittymyths1208]

Ah yes, another Doom Eternal is better in every way than 2016, haven't I saw one of these comments in ages...

[@MediaMunkee]

For anyone who liked this episode, I'd encourage you to also go out and look for articles and videos of postmortem interviews, and about how the audio for the game was made. The lead instrument of the title theme is a revving chainsaw. Most of the music tracks were filtered through like 4 different machines to get the perfect amount of grunge. The mancubus glory kill sounds were made by lathering a steak with honey, stuffing it into a vuvuzela, and blowing it into a vat of soup. The story for the game was apparently undergoing complete overhauls until so late in development that the guy interviewed about this has refused to go on record saying how late in production they actually finalized the story because (paraphrasing) "you would think us stupidly irresponsible".

[@fleurdelis329]

Well since you need more good stories with happy endings, perhaps a "What Happun?" with Mother 3? It's personally my favorite game of all damn time, and it's devlopment cycle is quite fascinating, and would love to see your take on it.

[@petshop5941]

Mate, I haven't even seen the video yet and what the bloody hell are you on about making a WHA HAPPUN on DOOM!?!!?! YOU GOT ME RIGHT LIVID, BUCKO

[@AtChiaPet]

*DOOM* stays *Crossing* paths with us

[@MegaGamerman16]

Oh, a Wha Happun episode on my birthday and it's about a series I just got into! Thanks McMuscles-san!

[@faboo2001]

"Games are done when they are done" So about Fallout 76....

[@albinobigfoot1]

So I heard that they told Mick Gordon to not do metal because they didn't want the bgm to sound too cheesy. Not too sure if that's true or not, but if it was, that woulda been some interdasting material for wha happun, as bethesda incompetence is kinda this shows bread and butter

[@_insomniac_423]

2:49 How did you break out Civvie?

[@markcook1299]

This is great, I just finished Doom 3 and started Doom 4. Couldn’t have come across this video at a better time, thanks for the recap!

[@vladimircokorilo8105]

Looking at the success of DOOM 2016, I can only think of Shigeru Miyamoto’s words: “A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad”

[@benhaver9737]

Duke Nukem Forever

[@remix2593]

@@benhaver9737 I kinda feel as if that's a special case in particular, as the lead dev kept delaying the game when it wasn't even necessary, resulting in them wasting money and putting the game in development hell for no reason

[@Cyberweasel89]

Activision, EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda, and Warner Interactive plugging their ears, singing tunelessly and saying they can't hear Shigsy as they release broken, buggy messes that they'll just fix later... or not at all.

[@lugyd1xdone195]

One giant thing to note, the Snapmap too got updated, not just arcade and multiplayer. Other than that great vid Now Im just hoping to see what happened with Rage2

[@stickmangrit]

so, if we're going t do long dev times and troubled histor that ends in a great game, any chance we can get a Wha Happun for Persona 5?

[@gabrielclark1425]

Oh, there's an idea. Take those old (and apparently near complete?) game files, retexture the the shit out of them, and release it as "Doom: Fall of Earth". Sure, you're not Doom Guy, but if they thought it was a good game they could ram it in that giant time-skip when Hayden made that super BFG. Edit: Also "WTF guys" Was immdietly followed by a 5 second Doom add saying "The Slayer's Time is Now."