Battlestar Jump Drives (BSG:FTL)

The Faster Than Light travel in various science fiction universes can be fun to look at. Beginning with the "Jump" Drive from Battlestar Galactica, let's take a look at the lore surrounding some of these methods of interstellar travel. The Cylons do it better though.
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[@casbot71]

"Well … this is a new form of FTL, that doesn't need exotic matter. No Tylium, no Dilithium, no Hypermass". "Whats it run on?" "A rather strong cup of tea".

[@inventor121]

Smiles in English

[@HrLBolle]

Bistromath drive even more powerful then the Infinite Improbability Drive

[@KuDastardly]

Tea, Earl Grey, hot!

[@mackenziebeeney3764]

I want that to actually be a thing now in some series. It runs off of the extract from tea leaves or coffee beans. The FTL drive runs on caffeine.

[@aiosquadron]

British Drive.

[@alpharho1354]

The Holtzman Drive - from Dune, the ORIGINAL Fold space technology.

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

Actually Star Trek, unofficially preceded Dune by about 6 months; Dr. Who first aired two years earlier; and Sci-Fi superhero comics like Superman appeared a quarter century before that. Plus there are some works by H.G. Wells that have some connection to space-time folding tech.

[@DeaconBlues117]

@@occultatumquaestio5226 Jump drives are an old space-opera staple; in Asimov's Foundation series, for instance, it's actually called the Jump Drive.

[@spikef22]

@@DeaconBlues117 or battletech! They use basically a less efficient much more hard sci fi version of the BSG drives

[@Marinealver]

Got any more of them Spice Melange?

[@chrisboxsell4981]

@@occultatumquaestio5226 so Battlestar Galactica came out before 1965 ? Star trek was 1966

[@Sephiroth144]

Minor note- when Galactica "broke her back", it was due not only to the years of structural fatigue (and lack of shipyard repairs) but her Hangar Bays being extended- this left the ship both larger and structurally weaker along her center frame. (It is likely if she jumped like that from Ragnar, the Galactica would not have been able to make any further jumps either.) It was not simply a matter of "she jumped too many times".

[@robinicus6347]

Wow thanks I didn't notice that 'hangar bays being extended' bit.

[@Sephiroth144]

@@robinicus6347 My favorite bit from that is the Viper that gets bucked out of the flight pods over Luna... I mean, think about it. This pilot has survived (and maybe flown) in every battle since Ragnar, just was a part of the final battle of the war, and is probably decompressing (mentally) from that last fight... Suddenly, they jump- with no warning- and the deck beneath him/her drops out, and they're floating in space suddenly. WHAT THE FRAKKIN' HELLS?!?

[@Cowracer67]

@@robinicus6347 3:08 If you watch the atmospheric jump to New Caprica (AKA the Adama Maneuver), The G keeps her flight pods retracted, knowing she would have to jump the hell out of dodge in a hurry. Which also settles the point that she can launch fighters with the pods in, but not recover them. The Pegasus did NOT need to retract the pods for jumps, and even lacked the ability to retract them.

[@rsrt6910]

@@Sephiroth144 My favorite bit from that is when she blips in and the first thing you hear is that long, low groan and the first thought is "THAT can't be good".

[@Sephiroth144]

@@Cowracer67 AFAIK, the Pegasus's flight pods are fixed

[@TrinityForceOne]

B5 hyperspace has always been interesting to me. The concept of drifting off beacon and being lost forever is pretty freaky.

[@NeilBlumengarten]

And how some races can live in hyperspace. Or how jump gates are the defacto means of accessing hyperspace, most likely because that's the Vorlon's method and they manipulated the younger races. The Shadows and other First Ones all had their own unique means of accessing hyperspace. Then there's thirdspace, but we don't talk about thirdspace.

[@seanmcgrath3826]

@@NeilBlumengarten No, we don't talk about thirdspace. The things that come from thirdspace are bad. Very Bad.

[@VulpisFoxfire]

I was about to suggest the B5 system myself, given how it's initially presented as a jump drive, and only later as a hyperspace system. The RPG GURPS, in their 3rd Edition Space sorcebook, had a nice braeakdown of the different FTL drive concepts, including Jump (the teleport-like system), Hyperdrive (using a parallel space/universe mostle separate from normal space) and Warp drive ('bubble' of alternate space or some other means of FTL travel that still has full interaction with normal space) as well as the kinds of Stargates (FTL systems external to the ship using them) such as the 'teleport' style connection, and the 'gate to hyperspace' variety.

[@christopherg2347]

@@NeilBlumengarten Warships of the youger races usually carried a hyperspace generator themself, so they could make unaided jumps. But even then, they prefered gate-aided jump wherever possible. Also smaler vessels rarely carried jump drive, with the White Star propably the only ship of it's size with inherent jump capability. The old ones had a easier time doing unaided jumps/navigation and had drives in smaler ships. As did the Techno Mages. But they still used the same visible hyperspace windows as the younger ones. The exceptions where the shadows wich used a nearly invisible (but still sensor detectable) shift/wobble thing.

[@TheVeritas1]

I'd LOVE a video on B5 hyperspace.

[@OptimusWombat]

It took several thousand years for the Final Five to travel from Earth 1 to the Colonies. They traveled at relativistic speeds because the Thirteenth Tribe didn't possess FTL capability.

[@phillip3273]

That's right! So is it safe to assume that the 12 colonies were the first to achieve FTL? If I recall correctly too traveling throughout the bsg star systems via ftl was something only recently developed in the timeline, happening sometime after William Adama was born and the proliferation of the Cylons in colonial society. I could be wrong about that though.

[@francescoresente6913]

@@phillip3273 no, the 12 tribes left Kobol 2000 years before the events of the series, and the Colonies were founded shortly after. Kobol is 2000 ly from the Colonies, so they had FTL. Idk if the 13th tribe had FTL to go to Earth, but they likely did and they probably lost it when they were staying there

[@OptimusWombat]

@@phillip3273 it's kind of an open question as to whether the Thirteenth Tribe ever had FTL at all, or if they had it but then lost the capability (by accident or by design) at some point. I don't believe that was ever addressed on the show.

[@LDG519]

@@OptimusWombat maybe they actually had it, just the ship the final 5 resurrected on didn't, and everything else was destroyed by the nukes.

[@JoducusKwak]

i think it was somewhere stated tha the FTL drive was invented on Kobol shortly after the 13th tribe left and befor the other 12 left

[@carlingas666]

Out of all the ftls on different series, bsg ftl is the coolest. The sound and the way it lights up before it disappears. Very cool

[@TonksMoriarty]

BSG's Jump Drive sounds a lot like how The Spacing Guild ships in Frank Herbert's Dune achieve FTL travel minus one Butlerian Jihad.

[@cirian75]

Very similar, the limits of both are plotting technology

[@DeaconBlues117]

It's more similar to the Jump Drive from Asimov's Foundation trilogy, with its Jumps precalculated. The spacefold in Dune was the responsibility of Guild navigators because avoiding hazards at FTL speed required the precognitive abilities brought on by the spice melange.

[@barrybend7189]

@@DeaconBlues117 early space folding was done by computer systems.

[@Marinealver]

Well this would have been after the Cylon Wars as the Orange Bible declares AI forbidden, hence the Mentats.

[@Abrxas01]

@@DeaconBlues117 FLT Speed? Space Fold tech from Dune was described as 'Traveling without moving'. There was no speed involved.

[@thesinfultictac5704]

The BSG Jump Drive is actually how I imagine the Guild Heighliners from Dune to look and behave. They "fold space" and the Guild Navigators simply are the computing power to calculate arriving safely.

[@scottmantooth8785]

*Guild Navigator:"Calculating, Calculating, Calculating , Calcu....SQUIRREL!!!..."Oh, Bugger"*

[@seanmcgrath3826]

BSG's Jump Drive seems to be a cross between Dune's Holtzmann Fold Drive & the Jump Drive from Asimov's "Foundation" series to me

[@480JD]

Dune is a sequel to BSG, the Butlerian Jihad happened after the latest Cylon uprising.

[@jakeg3733]

Correct. With computers, approximately 1 in every 10 ships misjumped. Ended up on the other side of the universe, jumped into stars, etc. the point is they disappeared and everyone on them died. The navigators all doped up on spice and being able to see the future could plot a safe jump 9.9999 out of 10 times, and thus the guild was born and grew into the powerful and cultish organization described in the books. But the principles are identical between the two franchises

[@Leaglestalon]

the living ships ability to jump in the show "Farscape" would be a curious one to maybe learn about as it one of the few where a living breath organism is doing so. The only other example I have seen in Star Wars a species than can also do warp jumps.

[@seanmcgrath3826]

That was just plain creative, how they came up with the Leviathans & their ability to "Starburst". no to mention that the effect was very cool too

[@LordPadriac]

Farscape's was a different beast altogether though. All the fold drives in scifi are basically based on some tenuous connection (some more tenuous than others) to quantum entanglement and spooky action at a distance. With the fold drives, although each series explains it a tad differently, the ship just basically stops existing in one place and starts existing in another. There's no actual movement involved with the fold type drives. You're in one place one minute and then *pop* you're in another place. The way they explained how Moya (the Leviathan ship) starbursts is that she gathers a huge amount of energy to punch a hole in the dimensional barrier between our dimension and all others and rides along on the outside of the bubble of our dimension without entering another at incredibly high speeds no longer bound by the laws of physics and motion in our dimension. She then slides back into our dimension at a random location when her momentum gave out. The drawback, and it could be a big one, was that because you physically leave our dimension you could not plan where you went or where you popped back in. Your quantum vibrations kept you attached to the skin of our dimension and ensured you always popped back in but you had no control of where because the laws of physics you depended on in our dimension to get from one place to another stopped working when you stepped outside of it. In theory at least you could starburst yourself into an even worse predicament than what you left except now you're really screwed because you can't starburst again for a considerably longer period of time than the FTLs in any other scifi need to come back online after a jump.

[@barrybend7189]

@@LordPadriac Talyn actually has an improved version. As he could hop dimensions and move in a more controlled manner unlike Moya. Though that was a version of Talyn linked with D'argo.

[@TheVeritas1]

@Leaglestalon The concept of living ships is older than that. The X-Men comics featured the Acanti, a race of FTL capable space whales: marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Acanti

[@reesemontoya5318]

Star burst was pretty well explained by pilot when moya got stuck midjump Moyas energy cells allowed them to access a "subspace" region that pushed them along untill they are thrown out at random. But that changed during the PeaceKeeper wars when moya was able to jump back to the idiolans planets from the water planet then back again

[@jedigecko06]

B5's jumpgates have a lot of lore. Like: - How the younger races don't know who first invented the gates. - How the gates are navigation beacons and must not be targeted in wartime. - How small ships (even fighter groups) are confident to traverse the gates without their own jump engines. You could even look into Thirdspace...

[@reesemontoya5318]

Plus how ships needed navigation beacons to maintain a safe course otherwise they'd get lost In the currents, and how jumping inside and active jump point is a pretty bad idea

[@CaptainSovereign]

@@reesemontoya5318 Bonehead Maneuver

[@TheInselaffen]

BSG's Jump Drive is the best plot device ever. It meant there was always a tension that the enemy could simple jump into range at any point and a battle ensue.

[@rsrt6910]

It's also the only FTL drive that doesn't violate the presently known laws of physics, which was Ron Moore's primary reason for using it. The rest is just really good writers. (Lazy writers lean on and change the worlds physics to support the tension they seek, while good writers will FIND the tension inherent in the world that already exists. -Albert Einstein... maybe)

[@TheInselaffen]

@@rsrt6910 um well FTL in BSG is given no explanation at all so it doesn't get a pass on 'violating physics.' At least Star Trek/Wars have an in world explanation.

[@rsrt6910]

@@TheInselaffen uh, well, I'm not giving my opinion here, the white paper Ron Moore had for the show demanded that they NOT violate the known laws of physics in any way and the shows technical consultants and writers complied in every way including writing in an FTL drive based on a theoretical Einstein-Rosen bridge. They stayed away from explicit descriptions of the drive solely on the fact that, though theoretically possible, nobody really knows what something that generates the incredible amounts of negative energy needed would look like in the REAL world. (Though in later episodes, when needed, they acknowledged the need for a cooling system and even later showed something that looked like a workable Casimir engine)

[@HeresWhyItsCool]

"Space Fold" from Macross/Robotech would be interesting to see a video of!

[@FMAylward]

That will be fun considering they seemed to change its mechanics between series at times.

[@perryrhodan1936]

FTL-Drive suggestion: Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda's Slipstream drive.

[@jamesrussell8256]

I'd like to have a detailed look at that. I think it's about the fastest of them, moving between 3 different galaxies like it's nothing lol.

[@leonkernan]

It's also a heck of a rollercoaster ride.

[@perryrhodan1936]

@@jamesrussell8256 It's one of the faster ones for sure, but by far not THE fastest. xD

[@perryrhodan1936]

@@leonkernan Indeed.

[@compmanio36]

@@jamesrussell8256 Not sure, might be a toss up between that and the Asgard boosted hyperdrive from SG1/Atlantis

[@SwiftGundam]

In the very first episode, Adama called it the 'Hyperlight Stardrive' and thats the last time anyone has called it that. The FTL is actually similar to Macross Fold Drives, albeit more crude due to the damage its use inflicts on a vessel's superstructure. It could even be that they do go through a medium like Fold Space but they enter and exit it so fast since they aren't travel such great distance by comparisons to other examples. One thing I always wondered is the MAX range each type of FTL can cover. The Red Line tells how far they can jump without worry of hitting a celestial object or, worst, jumping within said object but we never learn just how far their drives can jump when pushed to the limit. Fanon likes to think there is no limit but thats unrealistic as all technology has limitations based around the level of civilization and general understanding of the physics behind the science.

[@TheLonelyViper]

Man i miss macross sans singing

[@MrSlick16]

I always saw them as being built off quantum entanglement

[@xaivierallen4020]

Thier max range is the observable universe with the jumps of on end to the other would require a real time map of the universe you could go anywhere though you could also use theoretical coordinates to arrive at another universe if you didn't care about the danger TL;DR they could get you anyware as long as you can see\observe where to go for safety

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

Maybe that's a brand name and they couldn't get permission to use it again... :P

[@frantisekvrana3902]

My guess is that theoretical range is infinite. However, I expect that the probability of any particular spot being the jump's endpoint would decrease with distance from target point. I imagine that the decrease would be rather slow, such chance being x/d^0.01. X would depend on computation's accuracy and possibly other factors. Also, an interesting thing: space is mostly empty. Thus, random jump should be relatively safe. Unless the chance of any spot being the endpoint increases with already present gravitational intensity. In such case, a miscalculated or random jump would have a tendency to put the ship into a star or planet near the intended target. (or near the starting position, if random)

[@madmaximperialknights9101]

When he said warhammer warp i was like good luck with thr horrors that come with it

[@rommdan2716]

Can you people Please stop forcing Warhammer 40k in all the Sci fi KZbin Channels?

[@MayfWasHere]

@@rommdan2716 Why? Its science fiction with a rather large fan base, and very deep lore to make videos from.

[@lukasperuzovic1429]

@@MayfWasHere I concur

[@kevin_wb0poh]

I noticed when you brought up coaxial warp in another article and described it, it screamed "BSG". Thank you for confirming that.

[@chase2806]

Be sure to bring a reliable gellar field when traversing the warp.

[@SymbioteMullet]

Or stock up on sacrifices and hope... your prayers will do nothing

[@VulpisFoxfire]

Does that involve wooden stakes and 'Buffy-speak'?

[@zedhiro6131]

Hope you don’t get a Geller pox infestation.

[@fireborn]

Lol you said reliable when talking about warp tech in 40k

[@weldonwin]

@@SymbioteMullet Unless you are the Ultramarines

[@lightanddarklugia]

I believe there was one more type of instantaneous FTL drive in stargate atlantis's last episode where they casually discuss the wormhole drive a form of stargate wormhole that you open in space to your destination but it was never shown on TV but was used once.

[@deathdisclover999]

RE: Warhammer 40,000's warp travel: "Can you hear the voices too?" As for what I want you to do next for this series, BattleTech's Kearny-Fuchida Drive.

[@BigFrakkinOgre]

He should do a collab with Tex of the Black Pants Legion for that one

[@Evil0tto]

Oh, you HAVE to look at Warhammer's Warp now. Seriously.

[@rommdan2716]

That's not Science fiction

[@limeguy36]

Based on this year so far, i have to agree.

[@stevemanart]

@@rommdan2716 it's no less science fiction that Star Trek. It just honest about it's magic.

[@rommdan2716]

@@stevemanart Well yes, but actually no

[@Evil0tto]

@@rommdan2716 Battlestar Galactica had prophesy, destiny, angels, and repeating cycles of time. And he's done Cultural Indexes of the Kree and the Nova Corps from Marvel. There's no requirement that he only look at hard science fiction.

[@RiceWD05]

Babylon 5's Hyperspace

[@RavienGaming]

YES! Loved that one.

[@mrage844]

ricewd05 thanks

[@AnyZee]

In Valen's name

[@moorhen6156]

**vorlon sounds** Yes

[@mrage844]

Babylon 5's Hyperspac. no older

[@markclay1813]

Tylium in the OG BSG... was gold. GOOOOOLD.

[@andrewbutton2039]

I've been curious about the BSG jump drive for a while. Thanks for doing this

[@jowinn]

I've honestly never understood Starburst from Farscape. Would love to see it get broken down.

[@sithlord906]

certifiably ingame can you do a video on the hyperdrive system from the stargate series.

[@key-ran9497]

I was just going to say Stargate they some of the fastest hyperdrives in Sci-Fi

[@Grova]

The BSG jump drive seems very similar to the Atlantis wormhole drive. It's sad they didn't have the time/budget to show it in action

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

I think before going with the more famous FTLs. There are some more obscure ones that provide interest. Stargate, Wing Commander, Farscape, Supreme Commander, Babylon 5, Xcom, and Starcraft are some ideas.

[@Groza_Dallocort]

Dont forget about EVE Online warp drives, stargates and jump drives although there are alot of backstory about it

[@williamburnett3660]

I agree.

[@barrybend7189]

Macross ( not the Robotech version).

[@VDiddy5000]

Would you count the “Homeworld” series as obscure? I mean, there’s only been three games, and not much else. And Hyperspace in HW is...odd? Especially if you count Cataclysm...

[@occultatumquaestio5226]

@@VDiddy5000 ; I would say Star Wars, Star Trek, Halo, Dr. Who, and Warhammer 40k to be among the most famous Sci-Fi franchises. Everything else (including Homeworld) is more niche and relatively 'obscure' in comparison.

[@forestwells5820]

"Andromeda" is one that comes to mind. I mean yeah, it's more or less a hyperspace medium along the lines of how Babylon 5 did it, but they talk about having to actually navigate it rather than just setting a course. And it has to be navigated by a life form. Computers an AI's can't. Based on one episode, it almost seems like a ship's computer can't operate much at all while in slipspace, and some pilots can navigate it better than others. They also use to to time travel at least once, and systems can be "cut off" from the slip stream, making it impossible to reach them. I also like their quote from one episode. "You know what they say. Slipsteam. It's not the best way to travel faster than light, it's just the only way.

[@compmanio36]

Damn shame that show went to absolute shit after the first season. Had a lot of potential.

[@shepardbook]

compmanio36 Yes. Thank you Kevin Sorbo for that.

[@melkior13]

The Battletech Kearny-Fuchida FTL drive - probably pretty light on ideas, but might be interesting to cover a group of lesser known franchises for FTL in one video

[@Elseano14]

Babylon 5’s hyperspace and 3rd space would be wonderful to hear you talk about!

[@tom05011996]

I know you are unlikely to look at books but I think you would love endymions (hyperion series) rather macabre method. Other suggestions tv/film: moya (farscape), Event horizon, yamato (star blazers) & Dai-Gunzan (tengen toppa gurren lagann)

[@euanreid6406]

Really good vid. BSG is something I've always been interested in. Your channel is a good starting point for sci-fi as a whole.

[@erikolsen1333]

Love all the trek content and definitely love all BSG old and new.

[@p-mies1192]

Perfect timing. I just finished BSG and just starting to exlopre the details of that show.

[@SeducingJackel]

Babylon 5 Hyperspace.. really cool, and you can get lost in it!

[@lordjulian4263]

nice! thank you! i am always curious about deeper looks into the BSG tech and lore.

[@camontalen3939]

When it comes to the ship 'Heart of Gold' from Hitchhiker's Guide, thank you for using a picture of the ship from the BBC television show from the very early 1980s.

[@johnsteiner3417]

Yes, Warhammer 40,000's Warp travel and the alternates like the Eldar Webway and Tau's superior slipstream drive.

[@randomlyentertaining8287]

When you were talking about the red line, I was waiting for the ship to appear on the opposite side of the circle from the dot as a joke. Also, I'm very thankful they dropped the proposed CGI effect of the ship literally folding in on itself and instead going for the simple flash of light. Nice, simple, classy.

[@TheBigExclusive]

I think you missed the fact that the Cylons were able to figure out how to track the Colonials by the specific radiation signature of their refinery ship. Some how the cylons were able to track it through jumps.

[@rsrt6910]

They weren't so much tracking them through the jump so much as waiting for the radiation of the refining ship to make it's way through normal space to the Cylons, then jumping to that location. Something similar happened when they settled New Caprica and that Cylon #6 detonated a nuke on the Cloud 9. The flash from the nuke travelled about one and a half light years away before a Cylon patrol spotted it. Meanwhile, the colonists spent the last year and a half settling in when the Cylons suddenly show up and tell them "Yeah, we just saw that nuke go off just now.".

[@jhmcd2]

While I know there is some scientific basis for this, it sounds like they Hyper Space fold from Robotech. It to would or could be basically instantaneous. However the longer the distance the more time it took, and in latter episodes it started looking like warp drive from Trek.

[@geeklukeg]

Stargate's ship FTL is probably a little boring but gate travel could be an interesting discussion if it is in scope of the series. But honestly throw a dart at a board for a topic and I will enjoy it. Your videos are great.

[@SymbioteMullet]

If you're going to look at 40k Warp drive, can you please do a tangent into how the Tau ftl system works? It's kind of like warp drive... but without the warp

[@ivovi1586]

I'm so happy that you covered Battlestar Galactica...I'd love to see bios on the crew and deep dives into the ships, the Viper is still my favorite space fighter

[@frogoat]

Thanks for doing this, I love BSG.

[@seekertwo1]

Excellent video. Please consider reviewing the FTL travel from STARGATE-SG1 and BABYLON 5 next.

[@Lightman0359]

If you do 40k FTL, look into the Eldar Webway: its a variation of the Stargates and Supergates from Stargate, but you don't need an immediate exit gate... and there are cities built within it. The Necrons and Tyranids also have non-warp based FTL, being the 40k analogues to the Borg's Transwarp and Yuuzahn Vong Dovin Basals from Star Wars Legends [another good topic]. The Tau use the Warp, but its more like Star Trek warp drive, which pulls a subspace bubble around the ship, as opposed to Imperial Warp drive, which functions like Hyperdrives in Babylon-5 or Stargate, by opening a portal, flying through the alternate dimension, and portaling back in.

[@chrisjohnson1146]

Interesting video... How about looking at Babylon 5's Hyperspace. Technically no ship in B5 is FTL capable whatsoever. Its all done with sublight drives and traveling through Hyperspace.

[@compmanio36]

Always liked that methodology. Basically ahead of it's time with the "bulk" theory of 3D space sitting on the outside of a "ball" of nD space that makes up our universe. When you go through hyperspace, a wormhole, whatever method you're using to go FTL, you're actually "diving" into the "bulk" of the cosmological existence that makes up our universe, but that normally is hidden to us.

[@boobah5643]

If you want to get technical, pretty much no 'FTL' drive _actually_ goes faster-than-light. They all use workarounds to spoof reality in one way or another.

[@KingofPotatoPeople]

Looking forward to more in this series....especially an explanation of Infinity Improbablity drives and Bistromathic drives from HHGTTG!

[@MoonjumperReviews]

“What do I take on next?” How about the classic BSG of the 1970’s? How they traverse is even more elusive! 😉

[@lucasrubinstein923]

I would think it was like a very early warhammer 40K warp drive just no gellar field

[@rsrt6910]

All the commander ever said was to "Prepare the ship for light speed" or something similar to that.

[@patrickmcabee123]

Thanks for the post, loved it.👍🏼

[@TheVeritas1]

Rick, This was a great video. I'm a big BSG fan and still learned a lot about how FTL works on the show. As for FTL suggestions, I'd like a video on the Universal Neural Teleportation Network (UNTN) of the MCU. I know you touched on this gate network in your video on the Kree. But there are some fascinating aspects worth deeper exploration. * Ships have to travel through every gate between their starting point and destination. * Crews on ships can travel through 50 gates maximum to avoid bodily stress. How long do crews have to rest before going for another 50 gates? * Even ships with FTL drives like the Milano (Guardians of the Galaxy's ship) still use the UNTN. Why? I look forward to this and future videos. Thanks.

[@ellisz5972]

Very fun video. Thank you.

[@TheDarkelvenangel]

It seems to work like the wormhole drive use in Stargate Atlantis. In the documentary about BSG they purposely kept the FTL vague so they could focus on storytelling. Well done I look forward to the next.

[@jparky1972]

Thanks Rick. Loved it.

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

The "set" for the Tilium refinery in the show is actually a sugar refinery.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Is that why Tylium looks like sugar?

[@lexguttman]

Dont you dare be sorry for that pun. That was beautiful! :')

[@jannegrey593]

BSG - probably ma favorite reboot.

[@trunkx74]

I loved your video on FTL drives. I was wondering if you can do a video on the Tealons ID Drives from Earth Final Conflict. Maybe touch on the interface, speed, distance. Thank you.

[@Marinealver]

Star Trek: Matter Antimatter reactions allow us to warp spacetime. Star Wars: we have droids make the calculations to make a lightspeed jump through hyperspace. Warhammer 40,000: We say a prayer right before we go through hell!

[@Sephiroth144]

FTL Video Idea- Honorverse's Hyperdrive/space. The differing bands, various entry points, hyperspace vs wormhole travel... All good stuff.

[@pocketheart1450]

Make sure to cover hyperdrive and wormholes from Stargate. Hyperdrive in Stargate is clearly distinct from other settings, having the potential to be much, much faster than even Star Wars hyperdrives. It is also unaffected by gravity fields and can jump through solid objects, and requires the generation of a "hyperspace window" to enter. Wormholes in stargate are also quite interesting.

[@thedarkfluttershy]

one fo my favourite sci fi shows

[@simonwillis1529]

Let’s hope battlestar new reboot is good Great vid dude and very informative

[@Moonbrony]

Another folded space one is from the movie Event Horizon.

[@wil8740]

How about the FTL of Gene Roddenberry's "Andromeda" series? That one is a dozy just to describe what they are doing?

[@stevemanart]

Good job surviving your peek into the immaterium!

[@TeoNik]

The Bistromatic Drive is a wonderful new method of crossing vast interstellar distances without all that dangerous mucking about with Improbability Factors. :D

[@DMSProduktions]

Wing Commander FTL/Jump drive is interesting too as it seems to work on interconnecting gravitational or quantum nodes and the worm holes between them!

[@ricbrunner3880]

Theoretically this is a good description. We won’t be moving through space we will be moving the fabric of space. The issue with moving through space is the causality effete. Causality is the true speed limit. You must exchange spaces. This would require an unthinkable amount of power to contract and expand space. You would need the power of a star or a black hole to achieve it. The movement would be instant.

[@BThings]

It's been a while since I've heard BSG technobabble. It was nice ^_^

[@megafakecannel]

In A fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge they also use a form of instantaneous teleport. The jumps were short distances by galactic scales and the "speed" of the ship was determent by its navigational computer, which were powerful enough to make many jumps per second. Space combat was preformed by leaving hundreds of smart bombs in the predicted jump path of your enemy, since even lasers traveled too slow to hit a ship before it jumped again.

[@QuestionDeca]

The Event Horizon Black Hole Drive tries to do the nBSG jump drive using a Romulan system.... there's a reason it's a horror movie.

[@compmanio36]

I guess the creators of that movie more or less said it's in the 40K universe and that we accidentally accessed the warp with that black hole drive....hence the trip to hell.

[@Vontux]

There was an old webcomic called "Starslip: Crisis" that had a fun take on the jumpdrive, basically FT was impossible but what they could do was travel to another universe where their ship was already at the destination they wanted to arrive at. If I recall their calculations were to determine if the universe was basically identical to their own or not before making the jump, and the drama comes from accidentally jumping to a universe where some of the crew doesn't exist.

[@mdredheadguy1979]

I’d like to see you tackle Space Bridges from Transformers!

[@Warsage29]

Great video, I love your BSG videos as few as love are. Though I don't believe the FTL was around during the time at Kobol as for if all humanity was on Kobol they wouldn't have had the need for FTL, second it took the Cylons from earth about 2,000 years to reach Kobal and the 12 Colonies, also it makes more sense for the 12 Colonies to invent it as they need a more practical way to maintain travel between the 12 Colonies.

[@duncankelcey9281]

Kearny-Fuchida Drive from Battletech is an interesting one

[@chrisortega7521]

Dude, Wing Commander jumps would be a cool Sci Fi video I’d love to see. It’s always intrigued me, but because it’s more of a backwater sci-fi video game/movie, I don’t know much about, or many who do know Wing Commander, much less it’s lore and technology.

[@76williamsbh]

Good video. I think as a note the “Final Five” mention that travel to the colonies took what would have been multiple generations so I think that invention of the FTL is more correct.

[@wildcat2087]

In the Dune novels guild ships were instant telaportation to each destination and only real reason it took a long time was ship to planet travel was the only lag

[@aperson7624]

BSG's jump drive sounds vaugely similar to EVE Online's jump drives. Key differences: 1. In EVE, the jump drive (not the standard warp drive all ships have, but rather, the jump drives specific to capital ships and jump freighters) requires the destination to be 'lit' by another ship or structure creating a cynosural field. This field becomes the far end of a wormhole created by the capital ship's jump drive. 2. Optionally, very large ships (titans) can create a temporarily stable wormhole (bridge) between two points in spacetime. This would allow an entire fleet of ships to pass through the wormhole and end up on the far side. the ship creating the wormhole cannot pass through its own wormhole though, and would need to jump there separately, creating its own, personsal, wormhole, after the fleet had passed through the temporary wormhole created by the jump bridge. ...So...not really that similar, but still cool A.F.

[@Groza_Dallocort]

The lore surrounding EVE stargates and warp drive is also intresting. But still the warp drive as you know are just used for intersystem travel even the leopard with it's 20au/s warp engine would take ages to reach the next system. Granted if we had such a engine irl travel from Earth to Pluto would take like 2-3 seconds. But lets take the old cruiser warp speed of 3AU/s even at that speed Earth - Pluto would go fast

[@kingssman2]

@ Certifiably Ingame Please do EVE online propulsion. It mixes both the plausible and inplausible together nicely with every ship existing in a subspace bubble at all times.

[@Groza_Dallocort]

@@kingssman2 that is also true since the warp core is generating drag that slows down the ship in sub warp which is why we need to use prop mods all the time to reach a higher sub warp speed

[@roguerifter9724]

One of the things I liked about the Battlestar Galactica reboot is the little nods to the classic material. While we never see FTL drives used in the original TV series what we see in the reboot matches the description of how FTL drives work in the novelization of the pilot of the original series

[@Scott079]

Works pretty similar to how Wing Commander does, although I don’t know if those had FTL dives so much as they were jumping gravity wells/black holes and using celestial bodies as their jump

[@dennisbuskenstrom9291]

Wing Commander uses a network of natural jump points wich larger ships (and some smaller ships) can use.

[@schwarzerritter5724]

Do you mean the games or the movie?

[@298enterprise]

love the video. could you cover the dradis radar system in galactica?

[@Sp33ddialz]

The Gravity Drive from Event Horizon. So much head cannon on what went wrong & where they actually ended up.

[@mackenziebeeney3764]

This reminded me of an FTL type analysis on Atomic Rockets about how a point to point jump drive allows nuclear sucker punches with no reaction time or way to defend. Coincidentally, exactly what happened to the colonies. Cylons didn’t need the back door program, they just needed more nukes.

[@UnseenMenace]

I was going to suggest the Warp from 40K right before you said it :D

[@personaslates]

Welp.. now i gotta watch BSG again. Its been a few years.. this is an omen, the time is once again nigh.

[@megathelos4976]

One of the more grounded methods of sci-fi FTL travel. Love the effect they used for the jumps. Hmm, Borg transwarp drive? Although it's probably just artificial wormholes. Underspace, from Voyager, seems to be something similar, just naturally occurring mini-wormholes?

[@weirdguy564]

One of my favorite sci-fi universes is BattleTech. Most probably know it by the first person shooter games called Mechwarrior. They also use a jump drive with no time spent in any sort of FTL state. You just turn it on and flash of light, then arrive at your destination. It has a lot more restrictions than the BSG jump drive, though.

[@NoJusticeNoPeace]

Suggestion: Event Horizon's hell driive.

[@alluringming]

Could you do a video comparing various style of jump drives from sci-fi franchises? Battle star Galactica, battletech, wing commander, elite and dagerous, etc. GRowing up seen alot forms of ftl and i always liked the jump drives from various franchises along with hyperspace technology.

[@onkelkleno5408]

Ahhh, that's where it came from, I (as an Endless Sky player) was wondering...

[@RamblingRecruiter]

Would love to hear your explanation of the holtzman generator / drive from Dune.

[@drahcir8402]

The K-F drives of Battletech

[@ronabitz5156]

David Weber's Honor Harrington series Hyperspace travel. Is a very well thought out FTL system. With terrain and even battles taking place in Hyperspace.

[@mitchbarredo3990]

It's all very cool. How long will it take us to achieve this kind of space travel? Maybe one thousand years?

[@tubebility]

The FTL in the movie Supernova, the Dimension Jump, is fascinating and quite exotic looking. It would be interesting to do a review of that Dimension Jump.

[@realamerican7626]

just a fun note. In the Battletech universe, their ships jump much like BSG, only they have to wait for days or weeks before they can jump again and the jump can cause disorientation and/or nausea.

[@epiendless1128]

The Alderson Drive used by Jerry Pournelle is an interesting variant. It lets you travel instantly from one star to another, but only works between specific points in space. Most time is spent travelling from one Alderson Point to another using conventional fusion drive (with no inertial dampers). This makes it possible to blockade a system by controlling its Alderson Points. A key plot point is the birth of a new star creating a new set of Alderson Points to a previously blockaded system.

[@VikCachat]

Honorverse hyperspace goes pretty in-depth with how it works and where it can be entered and exited. A Systems "hyper limit" depends on a stars mass and spectral type for example.