Battling with Budgeted Blueless Brews | Season 4 Fan Favorites

[@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG]

Hey everyone, hope you enjoyed the video! As a quick mention, we recently put the extra playmats from the Kickstarter we did a few months ago up on our merch store. There are a few of these playmats available and we will be selling these extras while supplies last. If you're interested, they can be found here: bit.ly/casually-cedh-playmats

[@GrixisCactus]

How does Bill have the Lemon Sol Ring? Isn't that not out until December with CC Green?

[@InfinityRift7]

How do we enter the CMR giveaway?

[@undeaddragon9612]

I love that these decks are on such a budget! thank you for making a viable way for people like me to even play competitive edh!

[@mordamen]

The cEDH community has always been proxy friendly, so unless you have any personal objections I highly recommend you just do that. People want to play against other players skills, not their wallet

[@Blaze2020v]

and with nothing left Joseph passes the turn to Joseph. On Josephs draw step, Joseph draws a card. Then Joseph plays a card a wins every game on Josephs channel.

[@jonathanandersen8381]

9:58. Torch courier should attack because goblin assault is on the batlefield Edit: also the Kiki jiki at 13:27

[@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG]

Good catch! When playing these budget decks we ran into a lot of cards we haven't really played with before and that was apparently one of them. I don't think anyone really realized that that was a symmetrical effect. Luckily, I don't think it affected too much in terms of the outcome. The Torch Courier dies soon afterwards, so the main difference there is that Adam would have had 1 extra creature at the end and 1 less card in hand from the Yawgmoth activations and the Mishra's Factory would be alive but that also wouldn't have changed too much either

[@charlesmaillho367]

Kiki did not need to attack because the combat phase had already passed. However, the torch courier not attacking could have affected the game. I don't understand why Joseph wouldn't block with Winota at 14:40. He blocks and kills neheb as opposed to giving Jordan 2 free mana. Things like this really confuse me on this channel because usually only Joseph or Jordan win the games so interactions like this make me think they are helping each other get the win.

[@gdiridium5525]

@@charlesmaillho367 Neheb has Afflict 3 so blocking Neheb means he'd lose 3 life and give him 3 Red mana

[@charlesmaillho367]

@@gdiridium5525 Neheb would die therefore that delayed trigger wouldn't happen so again no free mana. Winota is a 4/4 and at the time Neheb would have been a 2/4. It's not difficult to see.

[@Sliver_Boi]

@@charlesmaillho367 He didnt block neheb cause he wanted it to stay a small powered creature. If he let Jordan recast it would be back up to full power and could net more mana in following turns.

[@soundsliketough8294]

Winota is an amazing budget commander and tbh is super undervalued. I built her once and disassembled her due to people complaining about being one shot. Recently reassembled her for SAMURAI TRIBAL. Its been working amazingly well and has great flavor cards as well, Spirits, Goblins, and Kirins being most of the low drops and samurai and other kamigawa cards being the human drops. I know, I know, im a genius, and I’ll take responsibility for that.

[@TheSmartCinema]

LOL I had to stop bringing my really well tuned hyper agro winota deck to my LGS because people would refuse to play against me because of the threat of getting knocked out too early... on of my favorite combo is cheating an Auratouched Mage and tutor Breath of Fury, while having cards like Loyal Apprentice to generate the tokens... eventually I had to tune it down for random pods. :( However I'm not a big fan of the path Joseph took in his build... I would go much more agro than that lol Really fun commander indeed !

[@soundsliketough8294]

@@TheSmartCinema its a shame people hate to play against her because tbh (in my experience) she’s way easier to deal with in 4 man pods but 1v1 i think she could even take out Edgar Markov with ease. Its just that if you play how she requires you to in a 4 man pod you’re gonna have to target someone which i feel does kinda suck for them and is a bit unfortunate for both of yall.

[@paulmcclain642]

Enjoying the channel a lot. Respectful advice for Adam as I am a Yawgmoth player-I’ve found that pursuing the proliferate line early game is almost always incorrect. My goal is to cycle through my deck as fast as possible and fill up my hand so I can find 2 undying creatures, 1 undying + nest, Pitiless Plunderer and a pinger. The added benefit is putting counters all over your opponents’ creatures. I only fall back on the proliferate line if it is a certain win-I.e. you have a massive grip and tons of mana from Ghast, Coffers, Cabal Stronghold etc.

[@chachi_arcola]

Would love to see more budget pods in the future, great job to everyone involved

[@Crazymachin3gun]

I am super impressed with this super high quality footage

[@behemoth1158]

one thing I noticed is that all 3 decks running the kikki jikki combo had the non kikki combo piece in their opener

[@danmorgan7775]

As someone who has a Winota deck and also doesn't like blue this was quite enjoyable. Winota is going to win most games where there isn't enough interaction. The deck didn't even really go off and still won.

[@True_Ronin]

Love these non-blue and budget decks. Fun

[@suntitan4419]

These budget games are awesome makes me much more interested in getting into cedh

[@knud_mtg2390]

Although I am excited to see non budget restricted decks, this was a great series!

[@anjunakrokus]

Jordan's opening hand consisted of: 4 lands, zealous conscripts and tormenting voices. He played a turn 1 gamble (which he must have draw) and discarded a ruination (which he thus must have tutored for) Then he played a turn 2 sol ring, which he apparently tutored for with gamble.... How?

[@fxust383]

Or he meant he drew sol ring on t2

[@perrinjulien4195]

Love Neheb ! His player wasn't lucky but this is a great commander, he can OS all opponents in one turn !

[@antrondon3654]

dreadhorde champion is better

[@perrinjulien4195]

@@antrondon3654 usually you playing dreardhirde champion inside as well

[@antrondon3654]

@@perrinjulien4195 shure, but I feel like costing 1 mana less, having a card drawing engine in the command zone and the underworld breach lines he enables all weight havenly in favor of the new neheb. You could still play The Eternal in the 99 (even though I don't).

[@antrondon3654]

Ex: Underworld Breach + any extra combat spell in the grave usually goes infinite with him and that's a really elegant line the old neheb can't do

[@perrinjulien4195]

@@antrondon3654 I agree (I play it inside, aggravated assault too)

[@Nailgraizer]

A game with no blue being really fun...odd. Loved the vid!

[@gavinmartinek2124]

I think you mean Hellkite Charger, but I'm not sure....

[@Tyranitar-hd6hi]

My friend plays mono blue steal decks and it gets annoying seeing blue in every video so it was nice seeing red and white decks shine

[@AkosiVeek]

I wish you'll have more of this budget CEDH decks :)

[@elil7945]

Hell yes! No thassa’s Oracle

[@jlbrooks74]

Great game. Why this Neheb over the 4 cmc version? Was that not in the poll? No idea where the poll took place so didn't see options.

[@ikepetro6263]

How come Joseph didn't use giver of runes to give torch courier pro black when yawgmoth targeted it? It wouldn't have saved the touch courier, but it would have made it so the giver of runes was likely to not die to yawgmoth unless he wanted to sac a more valuable card.

[@Grakon1982]

Found this channel yesterday - really nice :) Question: @Yawgmoth-List - there are missing two cards when i am looking at the decklist. Can someone tell me what cards are missing in the list?

[@rowrow_]

Beautiful title

[@rileys3490]

Nice seeing no blue and a mono black deck good vid.

[@GuyrillaBraun]

THE CROWD WANTS GODO!!!

[@Hitzel]

Should that Chord of Calling have not fetched Kiki Jiki since Hyrax was on board? Did I miss something?

[@henrybiedron1323]

I had the same question, even showed Kiki on the table. Not sure why not he did not fetch for infinite

[@undird210]

At 10:20, Adam forgot to draw a card off of Yawgmoth's activated ability.

[@abhikan7654]

Spirit of the Labrinth prevented that.

[@DAX_BEATS]

Y’all should do more no blue games

[@jlbrooks74]

That and learn how to play blue without relying on Oracle 🤭

[@Hitzel]

That tends to sound good at first, but eventually devolves into a ton of fast decks winning on turn 2 and 3 without getting countered. This was a budget game where a Winter Orb and Deafening Silence landed turn 1 ─ that's not normal.

[@DAX_BEATS]

@@Hitzel I personally enjoy fast games more then slow grindy games. You’re forced to play more proactively and gets everything thinking on their feet.

[@jlbrooks74]

@@Hitzel A) it's better than seeing the same strategy win time and time again. If someone has a great hand and great subsequent draws and manages a turn 3 win that's not thoracle...great. B) blue is not the only color with some form of counter magic. RE blast, withering boon, dawn charm, etc are all counterspells that don't see much use in a competitive setting but can probably fit the bill in slightly "lesser" competitive gameplay. C) interaction does not always mean counter magic anyway. RMR (run more removal) is something more players need to do anyway. If thoracle is not the looming wincon in every game then players can branch out and up their arsenal with more single target removal and other answers BESIDES simply trying to stax out the game. There's plenty of other strats that many people just don't go with because it's not THE most efficient way to win...although still competitive :/

[@adamparkhurst5578]

Battle Between Budget Blueless Brews!

[@om3n430]

Fantastic

[@jeffnorris211]

Games without blue are more fun! No fun police. I think I’d take a few stax pieces over counter magic and cyclonic rifts.

[@shammu1351]

How does he have the new commander green sol ring?

[@Belena711]

KZbin community polling is good.

[@hectormorales4090]

Ahh, nice game guys! Loved to see no blue though. More budget game play!!!

[@coreysierchio4650]

Yay, no blue.

[@TheEmeraldboy100]

Did everyone on the table groan when Winter Orb was cast on turn 1?

[@davidiswhat]

Why did everyone attack Jordan so often?

[@markvillar6328]

In the last turn, What will happen if Yawgmoth sacrifice his last creature in play, put a - 1/-1 counter on Village Bell Ringer before the Splinter twin resolve? It will turn to 0/3 and the copy with Splinter twin will be 0/3 too? I could be wrong anyways 😁

[@Stellignus]

When you copy a creature you don't get to copy any of the counters that creature has. The new Village Bell Ringer would be as pristine and shiny as ever.

[@connorl0204]

How did bill get his commander collection green sol ring already?

[@mcman507]

Just out of curiosity I have a question for Joseph. Do you also play OSRS? Also I love your guy’s content this season sweet budget decks.

[@griffinlathrop]

Cool game! I play EDH, and would love to get into the competitive area of the format. What decks would you recommend?

[@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG]

Personally, I am a big fan of Edric for players newer to the format. He's fairly simple to get started on (the playstyle is fairly striaghtforward), can be built on a very tight budget, no matter what, you're always drawing cards, and it can be scaled to be more control-based once you get more comfortable with assessing cEDH threats. I've always found it to be a great deck to start cEDH on personally

[@griffinlathrop]

@@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG thanks so much 😊

[@afspeellijstnaruto]

@Lucas Egeland Yisan is very slow imo. You are better off playing Goreclaw (strong and VERY budget friendly actually) or maybe Selvala. At least, from my experience my simple Goreclaw deck does very well vs combo hvy decks for some reason. Altho i do miss haste sometimes.

[@griffinlathrop]

@@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG thanks for the recommend, however, I was finding my combo almost IMPOSSIBLE to pull off. I have transitioned to Momir Vig Pod.

[@afspeellijstnaruto]

@ the fact that you pay 3 mana to put a counter on it for a start. The fact that green often lacks haste which means you gotta w8 a turn before you can tap him. You can use proliferate stuff for him of course to quicken it. But without a godly starting hand I dont find him that good. Turn 3 win is a bit of an exaggeration don't you think?

[@Tubbleberry]

do more Sram senior edificer please love them decks

[@calebb1178]

I don’t get why Bill didn’t use chord of calling to grab Kiki and then go infinite with his tower scout

[@matheusrian7521]

Tower scout doesn't untap Kiki

[@ryanblake7114]

@@matheusrian7521 it would. Kiki has hast and taps it to create a tower scout that when it etb's would untap target creature, and the combo goes on and on until he is content with the amount of creatures he wants to swing

[@Abraktil]

way more interesting without op counter all the way

[@flameberga]

I believe it’s hellkite charger not hellkite tyrant, is editor putting up card image dont play EDH/MtG? He should’ve noticed the mistake.

[@KSE828]

For some reason, it bugs me that you refer to yourself in the 3rd person.

[@TaAyDe]

no blue =no counterspells= more fun

[@xChikyx]

no blue because nobody likes thassa's oracle

[@Crazymachin3gun]

Also y is thoracle combo bad for the format isnt it the opposite doesnt the fact u can slam thoracle combo in any dimir deck it cam easily power up even jank decks

[@jlbrooks74]

I think you just named the very reason it's bad for the format. Jam it in it literally any deck running UB and you've got the easiest win to assemble so you see it a nauseating amount.

[@Crazymachin3gun]

@@jlbrooks74 i see that as not a prob i also think paradox engine should be unbanned and i think the meta shouldnt be a 2 deck meta which cards like thoracle help

[@jlbrooks74]

@@Crazymachin3gun just how in the world does a two card insta win combo that every deck that can run it does not contradict your thought that there shouldn't be a meta with just 2 decks. Unless you think that since there are 98 other cards that are different in each deck (all of which aim for the same 2 card combo as a win) constitutes a healthy meta with different decks 🙄

[@Crazymachin3gun]

@@jlbrooks74 i dont think anyone cares how a deck wins it doesnt matter its the how it gets to the point is what makes cedh fun

[@jlbrooks74]

@@Crazymachin3gun granted. the plays that unfold during the game make the game fun. got it. how a deck wins ALWAYS matters. the way you build a deck is with a winning strategy in mind so to say no one cares how it wins is simply ludicrous. As a player, it's probably fun as hell to resolve the same combo over and over again and keep putting that same combo in different shells so you can see if you can still get to it (and with thoracle that is proving to be not hard at all). As a viewer it starts to become old hat and extremely unsatisfying especially knowing there are so many other viable strategies that exist but are not getting explored because one above all seems to good to avoid. I come here because 1) the video quality is great 2) the gameplay is fast paced and easy to watch 3) I keep hoping to see other cedh strategies put to use. I give props here when they are due and voice my dissatisfaction when I feel it.

[@ZERO-jb8so]

Would love to see someone win with skill and not have to go infinite yawn

[@BuleGamer96]

Crypt gast is not allow at yawgmoth due to the color, what a mistake!

[@MrWilliboy38]

The white in the extort cost is just reminder text. It is not part of the color identity.