Budget "cEDH" | Radha vs Pako / Haldan vs Ghave vs Mimeoplasm

[@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG]

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[@SumNeuron]

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[@Egovinco98]

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[@SumNeuron]

@@Egovinco98 Send them a message. The company is very responsive. As for navigation, it is by default the most recent alters that have been uploaded. That is why you see like 10 variations of the same design. It is because the alterist made an alter and then needs to upload all the variations they think people might want (name visible, name and type visible, name, type and text visible, etc etc).

[@tysanthecreator]

Would yall please play these decks again at max ?

[@leleprechaundavis4499]

i’m here early so i want to use the lack of comments to say that your magic content is some of the best on youtube. keep up the good work!

[@yabootzyyy6809]

Ghave just combos with everything.

[@xandermarvin6488]

I have a ghave deck and ended up FINDING an infinite combo mid-game that i wasn't aware of and winning... so. Many. Combos

[@CosmicConical]

@@xandermarvin6488 same thing happened to me in my Karador deck. I was just goldfishing when oops ghave, mikaeus, and sifter of skulls gives me an infinite with one other non-human creature.

[@phyrexian_dude4645]

True. Once i borrowed my Ghave to a judge who i play with and some turns in he was just seeing the hand he got and not picking a card to use. He has not blocked because he didnt knew how to use the deck, he was blocked because he had so many options that he couldnt choose what to do.

[@corvoattano6765]

Combos with a Ham Sandwich

[@bevans224]

I have been really liking the budget pods you play. I actually convinced 3 of my friends to build 75 dollar budget "cEDH" decks (we all know they are really budget high powered) but, all 3 of them have really suffered with being threats, overall having faster decks and clear wins and how to get them. once they sleeved up the new decks they are having much more fun, really interacting and our pod is much more balanced now, I no longer play arch enemy, we are all viable threats and scary to one another. and 2 of them are wanting to upgrade their new decks because they are having such a blast playing them. It's intoxicating to see your friends having so much fun because of the things you showed them(I showed them magic, and now these high powered budget decks), thanks for the content, guys!

[@wbw911]

Play of the game : Red Elemental Blast

[@mgarratt101]

*misplay

[@davidthompson6861]

Absolutely loved the decks in this pod. I'd definitely be interested in seeing more.

[@addambarcelos]

That combo with trilobyte was pretty good

[@romnicksalvador8348]

Wow watching my favorite commander, Ghave, on your channel and winning on combo with cryptic trilobite is gold. Keep it up guys and more power.

[@farkulonnthefearsome3934]

Some of the best EDH content around! Keep it up :D

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

I don’t think this is “budget cEDH” this is just “EDH”

[@afish8883]

Thats why cedh is in qoutations. That said land destruction is present which goes past social contract

[@jackhayes6969]

Only some decks are able to be cedh at this budget

[@matthewrose8002]

@@jackhayes6969 I think there are more decks that can be cedh, it just depends on when you can win the game and how much interaction you have with your opponents that determines where you are in the spectrum. A combo deck like Godo that wins turn 1 but usually wins turn 3-5 reliably is still cedh even though it has limited interaction with the other players. Thoracle is the gold standard of cedh win cons but not all can use it or have it be effective. This is why some people see control decks as the low end of cedh as it grinds the game to a halt until that combo deck can get out from under it in a lot of cases or the mid range deck then overtakes the control deck. Some decks for them to be good require the other decks at the table to handle some threats for them. This is why those decks aren't tier 1 cedh decks and blue farm tends to be tier 1 because of all of its answers to everything with extreme card draw in the command zone.

[@kaibatoctoy6032]

I’m a simple man. I see Radha and I click 😁 recently included decree of annihilation into Radha so when I’m set up (with Radha and a bunch of creatures on the board) I cycle decree and watch everyone at the table cry 😂

[@Sliver_Boi]

Def some things I would change about the deck I made after playing it. Decree sounds hilariously evil

[@pvays]

Fun game. I really liked these “budget” decks as they created gameplay not typical of competitive EDH.

[@ryansparks9257]

14:34 Why does Nate L draw two cards at the beginning of his turn? It kinda looks like sleight of hand, but if you look closely it sure looks like he draws two cards. This looks sketch.

[@francescocentazzo9555]

Always happy to see some new and exciting commanders at the table! Never saw Radha in action and it was quite a surprise. Keep it up guys, you bring incredible quality to the table

[@twinstarMD]

This is easily becoming my new favorite mtg channel. Well done, keep it up!

[@Tupiaz]

Really enjoy these budget versions. The deck perfrome at at high level and there is a lot interaction and room for unknown cards. the decks are also somewhat affordable especially compared to real cEDH deck. I would like to see more of these kind of pods/videos.

[@Fau7t]

I was considering building RG Ruric Stax but now, seeng radha im just seriously considering change concept to her. This game was amazing, pls make more. Also, love your content!

[@Clayray94]

Great pod to watch. I for one would love to see the other game as well!

[@thrash208]

So glad to see a mimeoplasm deck , I need ideas for my prime slime mimeoplasm deck in working on

[@jeffnorris211]

This looked like a regular commander game to Me. Great content!

[@ryanaymar9124]

I still just love the "cEDH". it really is quotes

[@CosmicConical]

Really liked this video, as well as all the budget build episodes! I'd enjoy any more content that you have.

[@LittleBigBadPitre]

Really love this budget series. I really would enjoy to see an esper control deck using Sen triplets as a disruptive commander. I'm curious to see what it could achieve in a ''competitive'' set up and how you would build it.

[@georgekatoufas8267]

I truly truly hope to watch some of the other games you mentioned. Nice content mates :D

[@jackineson8765]

Hey, just wanted to let you know I love your channel, keep it up!

[@thetogtube2]

GURU goes infinite :)

[@pedroluismunozbethancourt673]

why is everyone using instants at sorcery speed?

[@Hitzel]

I play a budget Gallia deck with the 4 mana Radha in it, and when I draw Radha or Frostfang many games look like this one. Honestly, Frostfang is a super good card and I feel like it should see more play even in cEDH.

[@jlbrooks74]

Great game. Looked fun to play. Def fun to watch.

[@andreorlandini4985]

Nice game, my favorite commander is Ghave, i liked very much....

[@jhannigan210]

Not even MTG related, these chapters are pro!

[@aidanduncan2911]

Im in love with that Pako deck

[@HiraganaMitsuDe]

By looking at the Mimeoplasm decklist I can see an Earwig Squad there, but I dont see any other rogues or goblins in order to play it for its prowl cost. Can someone explain to me how to pay the prowl or what the purpose of the card is?

[@octopants8194]

I would think you use mimeoplasm to turn it into a rogue in order to pay prowl cost? Otherwise, I have no idea either

[@InternetHumanMan]

I was confused by this too, just put it down to them misreading the card

[@redwizard9430]

The P&H list appears to be a card short, it has haldan in the 98 and the command zone.

[@mr.bakerstreet221b9]

Great game and fantastic channel! I'd love to see some Orzhov commanders played, like Athreos Shroud Veiled or Elenda the Dusk Rose. :)

[@TashaRhyming]

yes please more of this specific pod

[@dtopa7524]

Love this season and its restrictions

[@mattyuen7113]

Budget decks is really fun. It makes winning more challenging. Not trying to offense anyone but probably yes because it pleases me to see people getting madly triggered at my words: EDH is more fun and amusing when you don't just focus on quick wins and big moolah spent in your decks, because remember, a dual land card is basically a piece of paper and what is paper weak to? Fire and water hehe. In conclusion: play to your utmost fun, instead of catfighting on who should win by turn 3 via expensive cards.

[@wiseosirius9643]

Great video. However, I would like to know what cards are being put into the graveyard from mill effects. I realize this can sometimes get out of hand, but it's important to know.

[@meagherman1013]

Why didn’t the Mimeoplasm cascade at 11:50? It entered as a copy of Bloodbraid

[@paulmikowski795]

Please produce that other video of this pod :)

[@jjrosales1996]

If in the future for whatever reason you guys decide to make a second channel focused on casual commander I hope you name it competitivly casual

[@ComedIanMTG]

It seems like a lot of instants are being cast at sorcery speed, curious as to the players' reasoning.

[@GuyrillaBraun]

Pricing as of 8/4/21: Radha $341.07 Pako/Haldan $350.18 Ghave $385.03 The Mimeoplasm $283.11 Still not terrible prices for the decks.

[@mitchellbrooks8709]

Woo Ghave!!!! Finally!!!!

[@BuleGamer96]

Amazing decks, make me think to build one of those.

[@malaven11]

lack of threat evaluation on bill's board. he just got to sit there and acquire combo pieces.

[@Eishinryujoe]

As a Ghave player myself there were so many plays where I was like “so they’re just gonna let Bill win, I guess?”

[@turbojugend187]

How would the Mimeoplasm deck generate infinite mana with Necrotic Ooze? Tried to find the combo in the list but couldn't.

[@dexman88]

Sad nobody played Malcom/Breeches. Such a cheap and reliable combo shell.

[@chihshiangshee9002]

10:17 I swear I heard Jordan Say Elk Taco.

[@TroostDesigned]

Great content! Keep it up!

[@mattmealing9366]

I love the budget episodes! The other decks get so boring to watch

[@sl0thgames324]

The slimefoot sleeve makes him look like he belongs in hollow knight

[@arcs696]

Why did Jordon not swords to plowshares the snake that drew Adam 8 cards? That's a huge blunder.

[@fel_95]

I wonder, is it necessary saying "declares no blocker" everytime, even if the target has no creatures?

[@shenronsgoldfish]

Yeah cause it's part of the combat step

[@fel_95]

@@shenronsgoldfish but it's redundant to declares it everytime, even if there's no blockers. It's like saying "untap, upkeep, draw" each turn... you don't, unless there's some specific events during those steps

[@shenronsgoldfish]

@@fel_95 I mean it's still proper, and makes following the combat easier.

[@tysanthecreator]

Would yall please play these decks again at max ?

[@uiop60]

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[@GalaxiaKnight666]

Sigh, I wish Generous Patron triggered off of opponents placing counters as well. That might be a bit strong for 3 Mana, but I think that's about the power level of a Rhystic Study. Would make it a very narrow but powerful hate card.

[@joshuajinsu2559]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the trilobite ability gives two colorless Mana but only for activated abilities. Right? So he technically doesn't have infinite colorless Mana??? I was a huge ghave player but I was always confused with trilobite.

[@8000kyle]

You are correct but Bill tapped the two mana he had from the plains and the swamp he had just played to cast life//death. He technically does have infinite mana to go infinite with ghave.

[@临高]

Cobra is definitely the MVP here, and I would've sword it right away...

[@minim4137]

I think the mimeoplasm bloodbraid elf cascade was missed

[@Hitzel]

was thinking the same thing. actually not sure how that interaction works, isn't cascade on cast?

[@minim4137]

Hitzel you’re right, cascade is a cast trigger, so it wouldn’t work in this situation

[@assael2]

Loved this pod, it was very thrilling and i was really hoping Ghave wouldn't win. Nice builds everyone:)

[@MTG_Brewzl]

Nice one! Can we get a voltron special, Syr Gwyn, Rafiq, Uril and Skullbriar maybe? :P

[@thestrahd]

Very nice match!

[@theexaminer4906]

Mana from Trilobite can be only spent on abilities, and Bill had no mana sources open as he entered the loop. How did he cast 1B spell with only swamp and trilobite mana? Did I miss anything, or Bill should have passed the turn?

[@billkakke6050]

I had one Mana source left and then I played a swamp for turn

[@moreparmesan5261]

I love haldan and pako!!!

[@thedeadfool1]

When you guys return, I'd love it if one of you ran the Ghave deck from tappedout. The "I Ghave that bitch an infinite combo. Bitches love infinite combos" deck.

[@calciosf]

The colorless mana from the Trilobite can only be spent for ability so he shouldn't have been able to cast Death right?

[@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG]

If you look at 16:35 ish he has untapped lands behind the life total box. It's hard to see but I think at that point in the game we were shortcutting a bit so we weren't super focused on card placement

[@calciosf]

Oh I see, I guess I was kinda thrown off by the "makes infinite mana" before casting Death

[@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG]

@@calciosf Yeah that was more of us just shortcutting and ordering stuff in game a bit in an illogical way, if that makes sense

[@LivePhive5]

I really wish Pako and Haldan won because I love those partners but I'm glad the latter won as well.

[@quietninjariot]

I dare you to make a casually competitive video using The Walking Dead characters as commanders.

[@roberty7999]

is there a money limit in budget decks?

[@adalwulf435]

The Ghave list is missing cards.

[@munsulight721]

I dont really like the pako list. It lack some speed (not enough ramp). You almost always want to play Pako on turn 3 *(yes even on budget).. Sure Kenrith transformation did hurt quite a lot in that game though. I'm not against extra combats, but extra turns tends to be strictly better just because you can untap lands, use cards from other and still get another attack.. I do think that Splinter Twin combo are fine though, but I think I still prefer "infinite turns" loops or just even chaining turn with some kind. .Sorry if I sound rude, but it is just that Pako is a pet deck of mine and i do like my "budget" version.. Keep up the good work and the game was still entertaining :D

[@vineetchheda2183]

Wouldn't the mimeoplasm cascade when it was first played?

[@GaucheEtVeule]

Nope, because cascade triggers when it's cast, and it "gained" cascade only after entering the battlefield

[@AndrewCreswell]

I'm failing to see the value for all the untap creatures that the pako deck was running. Am I missing something?

[@Sliver_Boi]

They were for kiki jiki/splinter twin. He wanted a lot of redundancy in the pieces in case one got hit by his commander and he couldn't cast it

[@AndrewCreswell]

@@Sliver_Boi ah I see. I'm not super familiar with the kiki combo but I am working on a (mostly) creatureless pako/ haldan budget build. I'm trying to find ways to tutor/ combo with song of creation

[@DarkEinherjar]

Am I the only one who finds it funny that Pako & Haldan has creature-based wincons? I mean, if Pako eats them, you're never getting those creatures back unless they're Food Chain combo pieces...

[@brandoncreek5709]

I mean, the main wincon is to smack people with Pako.

[@MercuryCola]

I'm for more mimeoplasm games

[@capadearmadillo1]

Love this game

[@ujai5271]

I thought your videos release on Fridays. Was that an incorrect assumption? Not complaining, I just want to know the schedule.

[@pabuGER]

What ist budget cEDH? How is ur definition?

[@FergyB20]

More!

[@marleygoodfellow7965]

"bombat courier"

[@justinisorange]

yaaaa pako and halden

[@tylersy9825]

radha deck is spicy

[@recentskepticism122]

Fuck yea ghave deck. Def needs more show casing.

[@gravecrawler1629]

Make the Radha deck!

[@afspeellijstnaruto]

How in the world do you guys have such sweet openinghands every single time XD. And on curve as well. 80% of the time i start with like 2 shitty lands in hand and high curve crap even tho my decks are balanced in terms of cruve and land-ratio....maybe i am a shitty shuffler.

[@Halinn]

Maybe you're not mulliganning aggressively enough

[@Hitzel]

@@Halinn That and/or too many cards over 2 cmc.

[@xChikyx]

I didnt understand the compost combo 😩

[@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG]

It wasn't necessary a guaranteed win, bit will the windfall forcing discards, psychic corrosion also forcing discards, and Bill having a good deal of black cards in his library, it's likely either Nate's opponents would mill out or Nate would draw the cards he needed in order to win

[@xChikyx]

@@CasuallyCompetitiveMTG ahhhhhh i thought it was an instant win hahahah still really good interaction

[@Good1Chance]

Why even show opening hands with two windfalls?

[@nite_nerd]

Did anyone else hear "Elk Taco" ?

[@zackaryjordan5081]

Is it just me or does it seem like pretty much every partner from ikoria is decent in cedh

[@ottoreitenbach1734]

Casually Competitive: Budget Green Sun’s Zenith and Ohrang Frostfang Me: We may be running under different meanings of “budget”

[@nolo2484]

Ghave is one of my favorite decks to play because of games like this, just sitting quietly in the corner until you say "aaand now I'm going to drain you all to 0"

[@b2e297]

Insta click for mimeoplasm 😊😊

[@silentsimulacrum]

Not exactly cEDH

[@charlesmaillho367]

That windfall was a bad play. Windfall in general is a bad play unless you know an opponent tutored for something or you have Ashiok, Dream Render/Notion Thief/ or some other mechanic that prevents opponents from drawing cards. Jordan gave the game away. At this point I expect him to make plays like that. His win cons are either the Thassa's Oracle/Demonic Consultation or Craterhoof. Way too obvious and way too disappointing.

[@Hitzel]

There was potential to win the game off of it, and the interaction that stopped it (pyroblast) wouldn't have interfered with Ghave anyway. If there was a ton of interaction in hand suddenly with no mana sources to cast them, then you have a good argument, but otherwise I don't think it's that bad of a play as a good reason to cast Windfall most certainly was there.

[@charlesmaillho367]

@@Hitzel The windfall didn't get countered. The memory lapse got countered so I'm a little confused by what you're saying. The windfall refilled everyone's hand while Jordan had no man's moving forward. I guess he was hoping for a free counter spell but this is budget so i still don't know what he was thinking.