BATWOMAN 3x07 REVIEW | Absolutely Embarrassing

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

Discount Harley Quinn Discount Batwoman Discount Joker Discount Poison Ivy This show has lots of coupons.

[@michaelvanhouten4498]

Kind of wish coupons worked like the infinity gantlet, you get enough of them & you could just wish this show outa existence.

[@Adamguy2003]

Don't forget, in this season, we got Discount Mad Hatter and Discount Killer Croc.

[@GingerZombie29]

And a lot of box checking.

[@ZION73082]

So basically this shows writer is a Karen with a handful of coupons screaming for the manager at a discount store! 😎

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

@@Adamguy2003 Uh, right, and also Discount Ra's al Ghoul and Discount Professor Pyg!

[@TheSouloftheDragon]

Mary's Poison Ivy cosplay looks like it's be in a more... adult version of Batwoman.

[@patrickkelmer6290]

That’s what I thought, and the way she talked in the last scene reinforced that xD

[@Nabinut]

Hmmm...I may have to do a little "research" now :)

[@davfree9732]

Poison Ivy: "Thank goodness you've come to fix the fridge... It's soooo hot and spilling it's environmentally dangerous chemicals all over my nice clean floor." Plumber: "Aye, I see the problem. I'll just get my wrench out..."

[@Hadex79]

That's probably where they got it from.

[@AXOLOTLKINQ]

yeah she's hot

[@insertclevernamehere1186]

Can we take a moment to appreciate how Poison Mary's outfit has NO PLANTS on it? It's not like, you know, her main gimmick or anything...

[@DisplayThisOkay]

No it's Green and Green means plants. That's why Green Arrow and Green Lantern have plant powers right?

[@justincicconi759]

The Riddler was all about plants too, right?

[@patrickkelmer6290]

When Poison!Mary showed up in that outfit at the end of the episode, I laughed so hard - and even more when she started talking like in a porno.

[@Vato-Psyko-Loko]

It looks like the budget only allowed them to make the upper body part of the costume and then ran out of money.😂😂😂

[@alexxs7evin]

@@Vato-Psyko-Loko This is where the CGI budget would be used to animate leaves curling around her legs. But the producers are trying to drag this dead horse to the finish line while using as little $$ as possible. Said finish line being syndication heaven. 🤢🍃🍃 ➡️ ⛳️

[@theserpent8667]

@@alexxs7evin I've seen many Poison Ivy fan films that are leagues beyond this excuse for a version of a character. In case the show's creators are mentally deficit in terms of brain cells, then they should know that Poison Ivy is either a pale-skinned or green skinned girl.

[@r_r_rye2441]

At this point I'm convinced the writers are making every decision specifically to target Thorias.

[@Chris-ey7zy]

I actually watched this episode after giving up season 2. I just realized this is a soap opera show of Batman universe.

[@jeremytitus9519]

Every hero needs a nemesis

[@HateshWarkio]

In the writing staff of CW's Batwoman there is definitely someone who has personal vendetta against Thorias

[@zerotechnical]

Oh no they know about Gotham, they had a bad relationship and purposely left it out of Crisis, they repeatedly rip it off and even threw a jab at it in the first episode of season 3: "Don't let this turn into Jim Gordon's Gotham." I love that show so much, so watching this show immediately after it ended hurts

[@JoseJimenez-fc6pu]

Seems the costume used in that promo photo got lost in the laundry because it's not even the same costume in the show. Looks even cheaper! SMH

[@RogueFox2185]

If this was in a alternative universe where Jacob was Batman filling in for Bruce while being the main character with Mary becoming a knock-off Poison Ivy who’s constantly on the edge of being a villain and vigilante herself that Jacob would have to hunt down, that would make this scenario actually interesting, unfortunately that is not the show we got.

[@cttommy73]

Jacob has been a joke since the first episode.

[@walmartpimp2]

If it was just the camera pointed at paint drying the episode would have been 10 times more interesting.

[@alexxs7evin]

That would be 100x more interesting than the current Batdrivel. Every other character's hero journey on this show has been completely implausible and unsatisfying.

[@NeroLeMorte]

@@cttommy73 his actor is even worse on the batwoman set.

[@theeringmaster9702]

@@walmartpimp2 I'd even watch a camera Pointed at that camera over this tbh

[@taragnor]

I love how the contract to appoint Markus as CEO was somehow binding, even though Ryan was being threatened by a murderer who just killed a security guard and beat Luke into unconsciousness.

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

There is a MOUNTAIN of evidence against Marcus and he still gets away with it like it's the easiest thing in the world. How on earth does this even happen?

[@Radley1982]

@@thoriasunlimited4053 Because arresting him and committing him to Arkham would be racist, and the show just *can't* go there.

[@SuicidalSummerSnowWoman]

​@@Radley1982 but he has a lil white in him so they could have blamed it on that😂

[@timberry4709]

Mary's Poison Ivy outfit gives the phrase "To the Batpoles!" a whole new meaning.

[@hordakprime6172]

That's actually what I like about it.

[@starhawke380]

As much as I dislike this show, I had no idea Mary was rocking that bod under her normal person clothes... Now she needs a psychiatrist to help her cope with evil things she has done... Perhaps a Dr. Quinzel?

[@starhawke380]

@@psquared2020 I live near Portland,Or and the strippers here dont look that good... And never wear something cool like that! Did the outfit have a zipper like the batsuit?

[@punkrockerlego]

Is it me or is this show taking it's inspiration/idea from that awful Gotham High comic? Let's see: Bruce's mom is Chinese Kate's step mom is Asian Alfred is gay Julia is gay Selina (Bruce's love interest) is a POC a latina Sophie is Kate's ex is black Poison Ivy in Korean Poison Mary is Asian This one's a reach but there was also a black student that Bruce help from the bullies and he was supposed to be his sidekick/bff I think. Luke the sidekick is black

[@BLACKSTA361]

Selina was always from cuban heritage tho

[@BLACKSTA361]

Wait no way they made alfred gay?😂😂😂

[@GJBattles]

@@BLACKSTA361 Really? Never knew.

[@odojang]

@@BLACKSTA361 Selina Kyle... doesn't sound quite latino to me.

[@BLACKSTA361]

@@odojang thats a very smart comment

[@CoomanX5]

That whole blackmail hostile takeover of Wayne enterprises is basically a storyline from the Batman telltale game with black joker instead of fat free penguin.

[@nobody2996]

And Batman at least didn't just let it happen, he was undermined and forced to hand it over to Penguin. This show, Ryan and Jada let the murderous psycho gain more power and get away with a whole lotta killing because... Well, if people knew Marcus was unstable they might *gasp* put him where he can't hurt anyone and try to help him.

[@CoomanX5]

@@nobody2996 not to mention he was drugged by lady arkham into attacking penguin when he took over Wayne Enterprises.

[@michaelsegriff3362]

That’s “hostile”, my friend. But good point.

[@callak_9974]

What makes no sense whatsoever is that being CEO can be transferred over from the current one to the next one with just a signature. No background check, no meeting of the board members to vote on it, no nothing!

[@michaelsegriff3362]

@@callak_9974 Well you have to understand that the show’s writers have no idea how business works, or much else in life for that matter. You don’t learn much from being a vacuous race and gender obsessed idiot sitting on Twitter all day, ya know?

[@patrickkelmer6290]

And I’m still saying this: This whole Poison!Mary and Black!Joker will be over after like two episodes in january.

[@patrickmcguire7896]

Nah I say they drag it out till the finale ( which is hopefully the 13th episode) then have a lackluster conclusion like they did with the other finales

[@Nabinut]

It seems like that the writers are trying to make them a thing...or at least work together to take on Ryan for allegedly betraying them.

[@michaelsegriff3362]

Is he like black Cesar Romero, Jack Nicholson, Jared Leto, or Joachim Phoenix? Or just his amazing self? 🤮

[@patrickkelmer6290]

@@patrickmcguire7896 Don´t you remember the whole alternative!Beth from season 1 and the whole Coriana plot from season 2? This is why I think this plot will be thrown away again

[@GingerZombie29]

It will get resolved in ten minutes, tops. And then retconed, of course.

[@borikidor]

Dark Helmet said it best: "evil will always triumph, because good is dumb."

[@darkron288]

"because you are unaware of a ittle show called gotham" yeah so the cw as it waws the ONLY recent live action show that wasn't in their crisis of infinte worlds crossover, i think the cw want to ignore gotham because it is such a better batman show then batwoman is

[@deadpool3278]

Also because of rights since Fox owns Gotham

[@zerotechnical]

Absolutely, my favorite D.C. Show, they wish they could be Gotham

[@Tengokuchi]

They can't really do crossovers with Gotham considering it's set in the past. It would have to be a time travel crossover. And it's too late to do those now because I think Gotham is over?

[@oneandonlysound99]

yeah, the fact it was never even brought up for the CW to possibly acquire gotham and continue it in favor of batwahmen yet picked up supergirl when I believe it was NBC who deemed it too expensive (and tbh s1 is the only season I actually enjoyed), really tells all. See how bad they do at a knock-off Penquin given the umbrella showing at the end of S2. Cause Robin Lord Taylor and the "I love you" story involving Riddler on Gotham wasn't "woke" except ya know, they incorporated it to have actual weight and meaning-the feeling no one ever loved him besides his mother which was pretty true, or cared as much, possessive levels that led to abusive craziness, etc. Oh and how Penquin mocked him for the riddler name. Like it or not, it was developed well. Not just "reee imma lesbian." NO WONDER why they hate it so much.

[@oneandonlysound99]

@@Tengokuchi Gotham most likely ended with a shortened 5th season because of the disney-fox merger. Never got why it was broadcasted on fox and not a wb channel, but i guess they did so as for it to not be anything arrowverse involved and so people knew that. I'd imagine it's one of those scenarios where no one can do anything with it until a certain time passes. Suprised it even lasted that long given Fox's notorious love to cancel good shows. Not that I wanted it to go on forever but multiple characters seemed to only die because they didn't have an avenue to explore and they introduced too many in the final season when it could've easily been more focused on those existing OR went for Two-Face/Harvey Dent (the comics even have him be ok then go back to being messed up after plastic surgery, like he could've ended looking at the screen in the MJ thriller type way). The dark knight rises rip-off stuff bogged it down, and that final episode to me is bs, final episode is "trial of james gordon."

[@AntonioCunningham]

Call me sexist all you want, but I thought Poison Ivy was supposed to be....well hot. I mean wasn't her sex appeal one of the tools in her toolbox? Yeah, they hate the franchise they're working with.

[@1chevyhhr]

Bridget will look hot she’s hot in castle

[@AlexSeverinski]

Batman and Robin is something I can watch and find amusement in. Batwoman is something I can watch and ask myself "what were they thinking?"

[@randomguyfromgermany]

The thing is: Apart from the stupid jokes (ice-puns, Bat-credit-card...), it could`ve actually been an okay movie. Just cut out most of the jokes, and most of the neon-lights (which was also one of the main problems in Batman Forever), remove that gossip-lady, make Jim Gordon more competent, and it would be fine. Granted, it wouldn`t do justice to Bane at all, but the "jokes" (especially in B&R), and the neon-lights (in B&Rm and BF) were the most distracting things. Just imagine: Seeing Batman Forever without the neon, and including the deleted scenes (guards killed by Two-Faces), and various scenes in a different order... It could`ve been an actual sequel of Burton`s Batman.

[@ohuckabee]

8:36 Plants, it is known, have a pronounced effect on the notion of justice within humans. When was the last time you heard about serious crimes taking place in greenhouses?

[@johannesseyfried7933]

I do. I remember an old Children's Show where a Villain turned up who....basically created intelligent Plants that would steal for him. True, the Crime didn't take place *inside* the Greenhouse, but still....

[@ninjainnameonly-6902]

Here in denmark, a psychopath got released from a mental asylum and an elderly lady took him under her wing. And he murdered her in her greenhouse. But that was 15 years ago. Ladies probably don't like the badboys since.

[@Archphoenix1]

listen, Batman and Robin is a masterpiece. There is no better villain than Mr.DR.Freeze!

[@garrym5682]

Mister Doctor?

[@KeenynMac]

Governor.Mr.Dr.Freez*

[@NeroLeMorte]

At least it's leagues better than hale berry's catwoman

[@keniel-prime6214]

@@garrym5682 it's strange.

[@MM-xn6tn]

Thorias's journey throughout this series already has better elements of a Joker story: A lone man trying to hold onto sanity and reason in the face of a world/show that continually defies it, with any reprieve being short lived and inevitably snatched away.

[@brandscape356]

So how much of the anti-Kate conversation is a backhanded jab at Ruby Rose for calling out the showrunners?

[@Nabinut]

All of it. Even when given evidence that she was a bad person, neither would resort to what Thorias referenced in his review. Especially coming from Mary.

[@JosephFrostsGhost]

The writers of Batwahmen put Akiva Goldsman on a pedestal, because he is the gem writer of Batman & Robin as well as one of the people ruining Star Trek with Alex Kurtzman. He is a God amongst writers to Caroline Dries, so that is why they’re putting so many Batman & Robin nods…. Presumably.

[@davfree9732]

The fans of Batwhaman like writers who tear down franchises like they tear down statues... Somehow... nihilism has been monetized by Hollywood.

[@wolflordbradley7353]

Is it anti semitic if I say both those asshats are Jewish? Is it wrong if I say she (Dries) is on her way to becoming a Kathleen Kennedy?!

[@adamandanna]

@@wolflordbradley7353 sad thing is I would rather watch Arnold make ice puns this watch this shitshow. Batman and Robin was bad very bad but man at least we could laugh at how bad and at least Joel Schumacher apologized and also made other good movies. Dries is terrible and yeah like Kathleeen Kennedy she will probably get a contract extension and get to ruin more shows for the CW. Fail upwards

[@taragnor]

I prefer to see it as setting a realistic bar for themselves. I mean, they're never going to be great writers or even mediocre writers, at best they can hope to write something awful that happens to get put in a big name franchise movie by some miracle.

[@thepayne7862]

I liked Alex Kurtzman better when he wrote for Hercules Legendary Journey.

[@bandarsalh1338]

I had an argument with a 4 batwoman fans, let's call them A, B, C and D for simplicity sake *A* didn't know how companies work *B* compared character having super powers to companies in TV shows not being like real world companies *C* said that i need to watch s3 because it's better than the previous 2, when i gave him an example of a dumb scene in s3 he said that i only "watch it to hate on it" *D* couldn't defend the show alongside *C* so she ended the argument by calling me a far-right wing even tho we didn't mention politics or even mention woke stuff I was just pointing out stupid stuff like the wiki page they copied in s1

[@1SpicyMeataball]

Batman and Robin may have been bad, but it wasn't hateful like this show. Mary looks like a knockoff costume you'd see at Spirit Halloween under the name "sexy poison" or something like that.

[@GodOfPlague]

Batman and Robin was terrible, but at least you could have fun watching it. This just isnt fun, Yeah.

[@SSingh-nr8qz]

I have always loved Poison Ivy as a character in comics and the animated series. Then I saw Batwoman and mourned the death of a once beloved character. People talk diversity. You have a WOMEN, who is a clear powerful but doesn't have to mention girl power ever 5 minutes, and openly at least bisexual from how she interacts with men and women. She was a female character done right. She was messed up and brutal but you understood her motivations as a person, and condemned her as a villain. That is the secret sauce for writing great female villians. Today, it's either trying to force the audience to 100% love a character (or you are a bigot), or 100% hate a character just because they are the villain, without making either of them relatable or take the time to let the audience appreciate what makes them tick. As a reader, and audience member, you can load up a scene with 100 no name overpowered villians with no backstory vs a scene with one very well defined villian with terrifying motivations and the means to beat the hero, and I will find that solo villian much more intriguing. Poison Ivy was that character for me.

[@oneandonlysound99]

The fact I liked listening to black mask spout straight facts as well as Jacob just proves how brain-dead this show actually is, even beta male Luke has his moments but somehow they are either portrayed as totally wrong or like 1/2 right or "considered" at best.

[@Nabinut]

18:36 That exchange between Alice and Mary I bet was Caroline Dries' way of getting back at Ruby Rose, and her recent claims. She couldn't outright do it, so she let the two characters that interacted with Kate Kane most, talk crap about her. Talk about being petty.

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

I'm surprised it took this long tbh. But since Dries was always living vicariously through Kate, she may have felt conflicted about it for a minute.

[@IronDragon-2143]

Y'know if I keep rolling my eyes at how bad this show is I swear I'll be able to see the back of my head on day.

[@ethanarc]

Thorias killed me with this whole review "Mary is passionate about justice you know" 😂🤣

[@kuu8225]

Omg the bingo edit at the end. 😂 More effort was put into that than most Hollywood productions. Thanks Thorias, you're truly doing us all a solid.

[@DragonmanX90]

Typhoid Mary's cosplay costume is worse than the kind of getups I'd expect from a grade school production of Batman and Robin! God, that's a horrifying prospect...

[@matthewbrown2500]

Thorias I disagree with you on the whole Mary is nothing thing, nothing would imply that there are no pros and cons, Mary has one hell of a con to her.

[@SugarFreeTraveler]

I'm surprised they put Mary in such a tight, short, provocative sexualized outfit when they are very pro-feminist on the show. I struggled to finish watching this one, the only thing that kept me going was the thought of a Thorias video after.

[@bowl1820]

Well when they do it, they are empowering women. If someone else did it, it's pandering to the male gaze.

[@Nabinut]

Because she's "straight", all her targets are going to be those bad men that sexualized her in that outfit. So, like the guy that rejected her that ended up encased in honey and bees, there will be hell to pay for the male species.

[@Theendman42]

@@Nabinut Ahaha, “you can’t tell a woman what to do,” while they also say “men can’t say no or they are bad and deserve punishment.”

[@MeanMrMustrd]

The shoulder pads make it okay

[@kingagrabowska9366]

So Poison Ivy persona activates in the sunlight ? Let's count the inconsistencies: - How about when the whole thing started, when Mary was abducted, by the plants ? Sunlight thing does not occur to plants ?

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

And what happens when she's indoors and there's no windows to let the sun in? I have so many questions about this.

[@psquared2020]

The only thing I can make sense of this is that Mary is part plant now. Flowers at sunrise, open their petals. It's like an opposite werewolf transformation.

[@m626m]

I'm sure the writers enjoyed having the scene of the cop foolishly walk in front of the RV to get driven over. Surprised they didn't put the RV in reverse to finish the job. So why couldn't Mary's special blood fight of the effects of turning her in to Poison Mary? Nice for Mary to still be loyal to her rewards card, when she just could have used mind control to get coffee for free. So easy to just write your resignation on a piece of paper and everything is passed over in a second. Didn't this show establish there is a board of directors? And where's the notary? Bridget Regan's agent couldn't find her a better gig? Fire this person.

[@nathanielhill5887]

Gotham was made by Fox using Batman characters that were in the public domain at the time of brodcast.

[@TheRoflcer]

To answer that question about the special blood,. the writers want us to believe Nocturna the Vampire drained all of it in episode 13 and Mary only survived via a transfusion of not-so-special blood after that fiasco. And Mary was too stupid to make another cure out of the Desert Rose Ryan got halfway through season 2 to get the special blood back.

[@isplat927]

@@TheRoflcer Also Luke and Ryan have the special blood as well.

[@homielander5924]

The writers have no idea how businesses or the law works

[@patrickmcgavin2245]

You do know they're only talking trash about kate because of ruby rose putting them on blast. Which with all the ammunition they could have buried kate aka ruby with this is their best shot. They did a better job on social media going after kate.

[@victorcippitelli2242]

They can't use actual Joker and Poison Ivy (yeah she will appear later) so they must create a la copy&paste others? Yeah, this show is done for

[@MasticinaAkicta]

Done for? It is still going on... with all that happened before. I wonder what it takes for this show to be cancelled!

[@victorcippitelli2242]

@@MasticinaAkicta yeah, but I was talking about creativity XD. That's done for in this show

[@James_Bee]

@@victorcippitelli2242 This show never had an iota of creativity to begin with. It has literally copied EVERYTHING from stuff that came before it.

[@victorcippitelli2242]

@@James_Bee true

[@darryledxavier6392]

At least Mary is good looking and they tried to make her look sexy some effort actually went into it

[@paulmurgatroyd6372]

Unfortunately, no money went into it.

[@darryledxavier6392]

@@paulmurgatroyd6372 true but this is the CW

[@noneya3635]

She’s not poison ivy, she’s going to end up being Thorn or if they are feeling like stealing more from cannon and really fcking it up she’ll be Rose or Hazel. Because the older looking chick they tapped for the real Ivy is still being talked up. This will be their gotcha twist for the first episode back from mid season break.

[@nenadjankovic2061]

I have to repeat a comment I made on another "Batwoman" review, because I think it's worth repeating: There's a scene in "2 broke girls" that came to my mind as an analogy for what's happening on this show...it's when Max and Caroline get a job at Starbucks just so they can learn to use a cappuccino machine...and the guy who trains them to do so explains the complicated process of using that kind of machine and Max remarks "So what you're saying is - it's easier to make meth?"...sooooo: > the guy that trains them represent people who want to watch decent TV shows, in this case - a decent TV show about Batman-related stuff, > the complicated process of using the cappuccino machine represents good writing, > Max can represent the Batwoman writers in this case and her remark would translate to "So what you're saying is - it's easier to write a 'Batwoman' on CW?

[@IcyCrystalStar]

Is that show good? I've only seen a few scenes on tv.

[@SolEmeralds18]

@@IcyCrystalStar it depends on your style of humor. If you like somewhat cheesy comedies of two aspiring cupcake business women as roommates dealing with their diner jobs (with a side cast of quirky characters) and getting side gigs/romances that end in mishaps... This can be for you. Though for some it's cut from the same vein as the big bang theory in humor.

[@Mecharnie_Dobbs]

That's a meme

[@SteveSmith-ty8ko]

@@SolEmeralds18 It’s a pretty typical sitcom from what I’ve seen of it.

[@alzaelnext638]

i realize the futility of pointing out reality and logic when it comes to this show, but when Ryan signed those papers it would have been under duress. Thus not legally binding. A smart, competent villain would have made the offer something he could take back if she decided to null the contract or gain some form of long term leverage over her. But, you know, your writers would have to know how to write first.

[@Stop_Gooning]

You have no idea how excited I am that I have enough 4G to watch this in my deer blind

[@deralbtraumritter8573]

Lol that look on his face

[@davidvalter1936]

You might want to talk with nerdrotic and az from heel vs babyface because you should be on their talk shows. Apart from the back ground music on film reviews. Your great...

[@JimTheAPE]

I fucking died laughing at the motel scene when Mary said some line about taking a long time to look "this good" and then walked out looking like... well, that. It was the most hilarious punchline to an unintentional visual gag I've ever seen.

[@hamarstudios3176]

Intro is beautiful, like the 20 seconds of silence shows a lot of words. Keep it up!

[@psquared2020]

Mary and Beth/Alice are supposed to be enemies because Alice poisoned her stepmother/Mary's mother because she made Jacob and Kate believe that she was dead all those years. Instead, they're like Thelma and Louise.

[@disturbedone8731]

Villains of the '90s power rangers had a much smaller budget and still looked better than Batwoman's.

[@christopherjones5446]

This is what happens with characters in the Arrowverse. When they can’t find anything for that character to do, instead of writing them out like a real tv show and wishing the actor good luck, they find a contrived way to make them a comic character, hero or villain, with no prior connection to that character. Mary should have been booted once Jacob “What’d ya bring me?!” Kane was arrested. I’m genuinely surprised they haven’t made Alice into a female Joker at this point.

[@deralbtraumritter8573]

0:32 it's sad when ppl who Photoshop do a better job than a multi billion dollar companies and entities... Like the Superman mustache

[@ethanjosephhall8756]

So, a female doctor who starts off the show as a good person on the superhero team but is then randomly turned into a super villain that has a split personality, fights the main hero for a while, but then gains some control of her senses and will go on as part of the team with a slit edge to her. Gee haven't seen that before. Actually, I have, I saw it on The Flash with Catilyn Snow five years ago, I know the Arrowverse likes to recycle character types and plotlines... so I'm actually not surprised.

[@James_Bee]

My ex threw together a better poison Ivey cosplay in a couple weeks than this "television show" has. That's sad.

[@gilbert291]

Just a small point ....................... the murdered security guard, the murdered doctor and the likely murdered cop must have been straight, otherwise the show's writers wouldn't have dared to kill them off so easily. That being the case, then "Straights Getting Killed" needs a green tick as well!

[@papadonttakenomess1764]

Are we going to just gloss over the terrible writing of the tweet about how happy she is to be Poison Ivy? It's so bad it could only have been written by the head writer of the show.

[@briansmaller7443]

Five seconds of internet searches shows me a ton of Poison Ivy cosplayers who made way better costumes than that one.

[@lightningjules658]

i just don't understand why they didn't use Rose Forrest (aka Thorn/Rose & Thorn) when she is literally a plant-based split identity character with red hair and a green ensemble...

[@jio5680]

I honestly wonder whether the people who make this show actually watch it, without being contractually obliged to do so.

[@cozenw3236]

Did I miss the episode where Mary’s super-cure-all was no longer in her system?

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

Yeah, that's not a thing anymore. But the writers retcon this stuff so often, it might come back as soon as they need a new plot device.

[@ChazDragoon]

@@thoriasunlimited4053 you'd think they would of tied that to her new role...plus that whole 'women are amazing with magical blood' history lesson on that one island Alice and all the others got raised in and had discount lobotomies by Enigma and that other gal. But that'd imply the writing team had even the bottom of the barrel levels of writing skill.

[@Vato-Psyko-Loko]

I love how Marquis handcuffs freeze from the cold but everyone else is just fine. And where did Marquis get his combat training cause all of a sudden he's a tough guy. Huh???

[@Bacontats]

I should’ve seen the joker thing since the episode prior. He brought a psychologist (retcon Harley) to dinner as his girlfriend. Oooofff copy and paste is a bitch

[@CoomanX5]

14:50 Ryan, did you forget you’re freaking Batwoman? Thorias, did you forget you’re watching freaking Batwoman? Kate and Alice 😂😂😂? Sisters? Ryan and marquis (but it pronounced Marcus because the writers are freaking stupid), brothers.

[@gravenwolf6535]

The actress that plays Poison Ivy on the porn parody looks better and her outfit is better too. That says a lot for the budget of this dumpster fire of a show.

[@Nabinut]

They couldn't even afford the CGI to do a decent transformation, and like Thorias said, her costume looks like leftovers from Halloween picked up in late November.

[@calemr]

Porn parodies are often written with Far more respect and love for the original works. They at least tend to know who the characters actually are beyond "Name, some powers, maybe part of the outfit".

[@mysteriouscapitalist4033]

A new episode of Batwoman premiered, as usual the abysmal writing leaves me full of questions. Why didn't the doctor put Marquis under sedation while he was been frozen? Why didn't Mary and Alice just rob a blood bank instead of wasting all that time at the bar.

[@Nabinut]

Probably wanted to show Mary putting her Poison Ivy "seduction skills" on display.

[@josebrown5961]

The writing on this show really is strange. A woman who is a bartender/barrista becomes the president of a multi billion dollar company…not only that but the best president ever…(doesn’t the board of directors have any say? This president quits and hands off to another 20 something kid?) A valedictorian med student skips any residency training and opens her own practice right out of med school? Personally I don’t want my doctor straight out of med school, I want my doc TRAINED a little.

[@netferno1]

That face he made at the beginning of the video did it for me 🤣😂🤣😂

[@Kewryn]

Wait: "Bestest Evar Ryan" hasn't been crossed off yet? Isn't she like the awesome CEO who put Wayne Enterprises on top? Doesn't that qualify? P.S. as bad as "Batman & Robin" was, it'll always be remember fondly for one reason: ICE PUNS! :D

[@jrny20]

"What killed the dinosaurs?" "The ICE AGE!!"

[@sodium285]

Thorias: What the F@#? is stopping you? Oh wait. The Plot. Me: This is EXACTLY what I mean when I say you make the Nostalgia Critic look like boring movies.

[@weirdchick257]

17:30 Ahhh, we're even getting a discount IvyxHarley team up.

[@GodOfPlague]

Oh god I did not put that together lol

[@kira-dk2mx]

The title of this video sums up the entire series in a nutshell.

[@mounaindewartist3923]

The average guy got a Mac Wolf reaction to Mary in that sexy Poison Ivy outfit.

[@Butlee]

We need more "THAT IS NOT HOW SCIENCE WORKS" in these reviews.

[@DrakeBarrow]

Being like Batman & Robin? Not good. Being like Joel Shumacher who actually apologized to the fan base and was really TRYING to do a good/fun movie, and would have tried to do something better if given another chance? Absolutely. I'll give points for creators who show some humility and are willing to make mistakes.

[@Shiirow]

so in essence turn Poison Ivy into killer frost from Flash.

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

Pretty much, yeah. And when you're taking ideas from the freaking Flash... it's time to stop.

[@ChaosZero1031]

I once said the only source material they were using was the Batman & Robin movie, as a joke.

[@GeekGal84]

Do they not realize that Poison Ivy is a person and not a virus? Pamela Isley would kick Mary’s ass. Even the Batman & Robin Poison Ivy would kick her ass lol. Thank you for suffering for us Thorias.

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

I don't know what the writers think Poison Ivy is supposed to be, but they seem to be under the impression that it's some kind of force or entity that a person becomes the avatar for. Beats me where they come up with this, but maybe it's how they're getting around the contractual restrictions. They can't use the actual Batman villains, so they do crappy knockoff versions. Hell at this rate, it wouldn't surprise me if we never see Pamela Isley as Poison Ivy at all. When she shows up, she'll just be Pam because the show may not have the rights to use the real Poison Ivy or something.

[@GeekGal84]

@@thoriasunlimited4053 I am so glad that we can agree. The Ivy they had in the Arkham games was damn near perfect. Not all the way perfect but pretty close lol. Since they are screwing up everyone, Im thinking Harley might be next. An imperfect as the idea of Gotham was, there were many things they did in that show well. Can't wait for them to bring in Gordon as the big bad here in a few eps most likely lol. You are awesome, my friend.

[@ChazDragoon]

Only good thing I can say about Poison Mary: That is one hell of an hourglass figure...shame about the rest of it

[@codenameqb]

Hey I don’t know if anybody else has thought so, but I’m pretty sure they’re going for a Harley Quinn and poison ivy type dynamic.

[@rjshadow4321]

You need more than a green outfit to be Poison Ivy she tends to have some type of plant theme on her clothing things like vines, leaves or flowers.

[@alexxs7evin]

Yeah, it might seem cheesy with fake leaves on it. However Mary is now a plant activist so wouldn't be proper for her to liberate vinyl houseplants and keep them safe on her costume? 👍

[@durantes]

Title: Absolutely Embarrassing Me:So par for the course then? Sees episode: Oh holy shiitake, it does get worse!

[@LethinGabbins]

Whelp... time to use the new excuse on the block. "Its supposed to be bad" Or "Its bad on purpose"

[@loomingdeath1758]

Its official we need THorias face compilation. XD the faces he make are one that screams for help but cant be reached lol.

[@deadpool3278]

What your not a fan of Gotham, I would honestly want to hear your thoughts on why

[@patrickmcguire7896]

So apparently Batwoman will guest star on a Flash crossover any bets to see if she’s just as bad or actually better under a different writer?

[@GodOfPlague]

I mean are the Flash writers much better than the Batwoman writers? Its still the CW. I bet she sucks slightly less since they will try to use it to entice viewers to this show

[@reviewman]

I didn’t mind Batman and Robin’s Poison Ivy. What i didn’t like was what they did to Bane it’s just inexcusable!

[@kreese-yi2nb]

At least you are free now, Thorias. For now...

[@gerbintosh]

Poison Ivy looks like a Mortal Kombat character

[@Hadex79]

I have to wonder, how many of the extras were probably filmed without their knowledge and have no idea they are in a "tv show"?

[@anneoneal3865]

I just thought of something... What happened to the miraculous cure-all feminist flower that was such a HUGE plot point in Season 2?? I've never heard a single character mention it so far.

[@TheYungSesShow]

Batwoman has got to be the only show that gets worse and worse with every passing episode and season

[@biggiecheese726]

I just realized that Mary should still have the Desert Rose in her blood. That should instantly cure the poison from the plants and make her normal again. But of course, the writers forgot about that so whatever Edit: I’ve read a few of the replies, and I have no fucking clue if she still has it or not. However, they never explained it, so the show’s still shit

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Nope, I think that actually isn't a Plothole. Apparently the Desert Rose Miracle Juice vanished out of Mary's Blood. Remember the Episode with the weird Killer that got electrovuted into Insanity and who stabbed Jacob in the Gut?

[@imp360]

nah they claimed long ago that nocturna, the vampire like villain in season one, drained the desert rose juice out of her so she doesn't have it anymore. course they are just flat out ignoring that they gave both Ryan and Luke the desert rose in season two so they should now have miracle cure blood.

[@TheKpa11]

Not unless you want to say the desert rose is AMPLIFYING the poison ivy powers. CW: Yes

[@jothecocopop]

Mary's Poison Ivy looks like a porn parody, and not the good kind, like from Axel Braun.

[@drunkdealer583]

They canceled Black Lightning 🌩 and yet this show is still on the air? Did some executive in the CW made a bet with someone 🤔 three years ago just to keep Batwoman an ongoing series? How low is the show's ratings now?

[@alexxs7evin]

Hopefully Tom Swift will be good.

[@zilvertron]

Hey, at least you're done with Batwoman for the entire year! That's gotta count for something. Too bad though it's just a few days over 30, but at this point you gotta see the positive to stay alive

[@SETHRX7]

Sooner or later this show will present to us female versions of so famous villains like Salomon Grundy, Bane or Kite Man. Just you wait.

[@chethammer]

Absolutely the worst show. I even watched some of the scenes that were pointed out in the review. Did they steal the Winnebago? The premise that you become a supervillain because you get poked by a thorn, or wear a hat, get shocked by a joy buzzer, take a frozen tank......whatever else comes next. This shows they have no imagination of their own and cannot create anything of their own. It's all been done before. LOL, as I said that EB on Venom just did nearly that same thing........

[@stormryder4305]

The thumbnail is the worst and most hideous Poison Ivy I've ever seen. Jesus! Even fans can do better than this shit. Seriously CW, what the hell is going on to your sanity?

[@BlackChapters]

Reminder, Marquis killed a man in a room thats confirmed to have cameras on it.

[@thoriasunlimited4053]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that will never get brought up.

[@aspiringjoker2883]

I'm glad to find know your thoughts on Gotham. I love that show. This show, on the other hand, nahhh.

[@cliffordterrell6078]

I was just watching Hawkeye on Disney plus. And I was just thinking about the audience reaction to the story. I'm very curious how these writers interpret what a story is. And I like to know if any of them have a college degree I'm not trying to be a jerk but it's pretty clear that children are writing this. And it's clear that they are not interested in any feedback. The sad truth is this is going to be on there record forever.

[@IkariMadness]

Plot armor is literally the only thing holding this show together enough to even film episodes.