Baume & Mercier Watch Restoration

[@MyRetroWatches]

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[@fredricmclarencartier2489]

WHT ARE YOU DOiNG WiTH THT WATCH Y0U JUST PLAYiNG HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@jeff1176]

I'm getting into this hobby after watching you, Marshall, and Marc L. Repairing watches.

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks Jeff glad your picking up the tools. Mark is a total Pro and I can only admire his work, through doing this I have got to know him and he is a real decent chap. Same with Marshall, I have channel envy (in a good way ) with Marshall. He has done in a handful of videos what has taken me 3 years and 100+ videos to achieve. I have a lot to work on clearly.

[@esteban8840]

Go for it, it’s going to be hard to learn but it’s worth it!

[@robbertsanders5745]

yup, same here. Great resources that I've used as tutorials :D

[@thenoobwatchmaker3604]

Thank you so much for leaving the mistakes in. I'm still very new to watch repair and I make so many mistakes! This encourages me to persevere. Cheers.

[@worldwide1376]

You can take a bit of Rodico and 'touch' it to the balance wheel to stop movement so that you can lubricate the pallet fork without having to unwind the mainspring.

[@johnhannon]

Hi Mike! Three years later and I am working on a Enicar with the same movement. Felsa made versions of the 1560 with 17/21/25 jewels so I think the missing cap jewel for the escape you mention is normal for the 17 jewel version. The reversed crown wheel did not have a washer on mine and the documentation does not show any. Your video is a big help to me as I try to figure this out. Not an easy movement to work on. Thanks!

[@martinstabb7059]

Thanks Mike for this video. I'm an absolute beginner and bought a defunct Ramona for £5 from an antique / junk shop. I turns out that it has an automatic Felsa movement (4000 I think) with very similar components to your 1560. Unfortunately I have lost one of the springs and messed up the tiny counterweight lever, which I may yet be able reinstall properly. The trouble you had stripping down and rebuilding the movement makes me feel a little better and has inspired me to revisit it. Thank you again.

[@csspinner]

Try creating your own spring from a guitar string

[@philiplaskey5554]

This is extremely interesting because I have various bits of Felsa 1560 movements, and this enabled me to identify more parts from the scrap box that go with them. Unfortunately not enough to make a working one yet!

[@BikerBloke600]

Hi Mike, don't think I'll ever strip down or assemble a watch in my lifetime but I would just like to say how entertaining and relaxing I find your videos. Keep up the good work. Mick Northern Ireland 👍🍻⌚

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks Mick. Happy new year to you.

[@davidwebb3253]

Hi There, another great video, I have always liked the "warts & all " approach. That's how we have all learnt & these videos are a great teaching aid. I was even holding my breath for you at certain places. Very brave to dive into an unknown movement. Thanks once again.

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks for your support David. I have done quite a few movements on and off camera recently that I’ve never done before. Some easier than others . I think you just get to a point where you can tackle most basic movements and have confidence. Unlike chronographs which still allude me.

[@moskauuhrmacher6833]

Hello, sir! You can easily replace the washer spring u've lost by a similar size hour wheel washer spring from ladies watch movement. Such timegrapher pattern usually caused by a balance wheel disbalance and (or) balance spring damage. Also, this movement have a different amplitude on dial up and dial down positions. The simplest solution can be is to remove "bad side" shock jewel, wash it and oil it again.

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thank you for your advice. I don’t have any washers anywhere sadly . I will look at the shock jewels again. I am another 24 hours on since filming and the watch is still running well and keeping time. The Timegrapher results change each time I test.

[@alastairwright77]

Brilliant, superb video, warts and all. This is the reality for we amateurs and it's heartening to see, because sometimes it can all look too easy when we know it isn't. Keep up the good (and bad) work! 🙂

[@NW-lj6oo]

A really great video of an unconventional movement. I cannot recall seeing anything as complex as this, but of course expertly handled by Mike.

[@Ammar.D]

21:52 I was waiting in anticipation for this moment 😁

[@VintageDigitalWatches]

Love the slo-mo shot at the end with the balance wheel

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks. Hope all is well with you and your family.

[@VintageDigitalWatches]

@@MyRetroWatches All good, thanks Michael!

[@mikebruegger8654]

Great work. Sometimes timing waves are do to either the escape wheel teeth or even loose pallet jewel. Possibly the escapement just wants some oil....

[@gopalakrishnanramaswamy6562]

Wonderful! Very good watch and service done is very excellent.I want to have one watch of this brand.

[@coffeeisgood102]

Nice job. I have the Enicar triple date moon phase, automatic. It is powered by the Felsa 693. The rotor has the same arrow and little lever as the one in your video.

[@russellschultz7312]

What an ordeal! Congratulations on your perseverance.

[@bratisme121]

I'm so envious of how anyone with this hobby can do this, my shaky hands would never allow me to do this sort of stuff.

[@Random_Restorations]

'Lost' a similar spacer/clutch piece for beautiful Thiel pocket watch, put the watch aside and carried on with other work, a month later I renewed all my cleaning fluids and thankfully my magnet picked it up as i drained and cleaned my equipment. Having the magnet has saved me many hundreds of pounds, simple solutions........

[@MyRetroWatches]

I think a magnet is one of the first tools any hobbyist should buy!

[@nhand42]

What a great looking watch. It's sad that the quartz crisis caused so many of these brands to disappear.

[@jakekaywell5972]

Baume & Mercier still exists, albeit they are now a part of Richemont. Pretty solid watches at solid prices from what I hear.

[@geobel1669]

DRP means Deutch Reich patent, the German equivalent of USA patent, so it means it was a DRP and USA patent . Nice job and watch thank you for your videos !

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks for the info!

[@davidfarrell7318]

nice work enjoyed watching that i is great to see the watch come back to life i wear a drum watch i just like to see the drums turning and it keeps good time it will do for nowlook forward to next repair.

[@markbyrum4743]

Good job on this rebuild. Good vid. Keep at it!

[@dbzamora]

Just did a disassembly of my first every non-Seiko which is a Felsa ST96 in a Mondaine vintage wristwatch so I thought I'd revisit this video. Though not exactly the same, I do want to get a visual 'feel' for working on a Swiss movement thanks to your untiring efforts. Those springs are unlike Seiko that are flat and are literally, tiny round springs which gave me anxiety. I had the same experience of plates and gears being difficult to remove or pry off. The movement I am working on had parts sticking together because of oil. I think the last person who serviced this is an engine mechanic haha. It even had green residue underneath the minute wheel which I suspect is grease. I hope you were able to sort out the problems with your watch. Continue to stay safe and healthy and wish the same for your family. Cheers

[@MyRetroWatches]

Im glad in some way I have helped Dennis. Never be scared of a movement as this will make it harder. Just be confident and take a load of photos all the way then you have the backup of knowing where the parts should go.

[@dbzamora]

@@MyRetroWatches Your videos are always a great help! Watching you take on those Seiko movements inspired me to take up the hobby :) So glad I came across your videos.

[@ajaychoudhary9817]

amazing work the watch is so gorgeous looking too

[@mercoid]

You can use two paint can openers from the house paint store to remove delicate watch hands.

[@Andrew-J316]

Stop calling yourself an amateur! :) you did great work! Super impressed!

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thank you so much!

[@sydneybell4362]

Great Video, thanks for all the time and effort that you put in for our benefit, greatly appreciated.

[@MyRetroWatches]

My pleasure!

[@MrPharlophone]

Nice! a swiss brand with some name behind

[@esteban8840]

The dents on the back are due to the wear of this watch with a weaved nato strap, unlike the normal nato straps, the weaved ones damages a lot case backs

[@MyRetroWatches]

Wow thanks. I had wondered on how it could have wear like that. Surprised it could be caused by a nato but makes perfect sense.

[@esteban8840]

@@MyRetroWatches Back in the day watches where way more important in every day life, this watch was maybe worn during a dozen years with this type of strap, when you think about it it’s not surprising, Great video👍

[@esteban8840]

@@MyRetroWatches I found the exact name of the type of strap that causes this, a “parlon” , here is an example: www.amazon.fr/Ullchro-Bracelet-Montre-Remplacer-Qualité/dp/B0798JVX5S/ref=asc_df_B0798JVX5S/?tag=googshopfr-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=334335733157&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12027205753432843212&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9056141&hvtargid=pla-682224165481&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=69728607729&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=334335733157&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12027205753432843212&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9056141&hvtargid=pla-682224165481 Happy New Year

[@adrianbirkett594]

Well done Mike!, worked on one of these in the summer. Absolute nightmare for me! 😢, has to be the fiddleyist watch I ever worked on!. These watches don't age well in my opinion. Well done, great video. Thanks, Adrian.

[@MyRetroWatches]

I’ve enjoyed the movement apart from that weird spring for the auto works wheels. I’m doing a Zodiac off camera and it’s much more involved than this Felsa is..

[@breaktime3269]

Nice watch, good video, thanks for sharing!

[@donnyboon2896]

Even if it is not running as well as you wished, it is still Swiss movement wrist candy. 😃

[@jimbojet8728]

Well done. A good vid. Thanks

[@MyRetroWatches]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@johnduncan4416]

Very interesting. I am not to your level yet,but I'm having fun learning

[@dylanlamb8710]

Gunk...highly technical term...lol...but explains it perfectly. Great video! Love watching you bring things back to life!

[@MyRetroWatches]

I'm sure gunk is a scientific word. Thanks for watching and I am glad you enjoy my content.

[@dylanlamb8710]

@@MyRetroWatches it’s next to gobbledygook in the glossary of terms...lol

[@johnrogers2253]

G'day Mark. I will have to invest in those hand removers, I am doing a JLe Coultre. and two 1915 war watches.. I broke three screws that were rusted in to the winding and ratchet wheel. Very frustrating... soaking what I have left.. for a day..

[@dennisc.1189]

That is a difficult looking movement, good job on it, hope you will make a video on what went wrong. I always enjoy your videos.

[@bfx8185]

Could you please make a video also about troubleshooting this issue? Because it is more interesting ... disassembly, cleaning, oiling and assembly we seen lot of times and in a while it will be boring. Troubleshooting and solving the problems is much more interesting.

[@MyRetroWatches]

I am of the conclusion that the missing cap jewel for the escape is causing this. I can’t find a replacement and it’s up to the owner now. If I had a replacement then I could test the theory

[@thegrassyknoll7792]

The famous painter Bob Ross once Said “you dont make mistakes, just happy little accidents, lets make them birds, they are birds now” .. so true ! Have a fantastic New year and May all your pivots be straight ;-)

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks . Love the may your pivots here straight 😂

[@wargamingrefugee9065]

Hi, Something occurred to me, so I've come back to the video. @15:11, there's a pinion on a crooked, or "C" shaped, arm. It should alternately engage with either of the reversing gears, depending upon the direction the rotor is turning. Here's why I came back, inside of a washing machine there is normally an agitator which alternately turns one direction and then the other during the wash and rinse cycles. In traditional washers, the mechanism used to create that alternating motion is called a "wig-wag". Oddly enough, it's called the same thing in watch movements. Please Google "wigwag pinion" and see for yourself. Thanks for sharing your experiences with us. :-)

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks for this explanation . I am new to all these Swiss variants of movements and this is the first time I’ve seen the “wig-wag”. I will certainly Google this .

[@leereyno]

Most of the watches I work on are from the 50's and 60's. What you're seeing on the timegrapher is similar to what I usually see. Parts wear out. I strongly suspect that the various moving parts are no longer at the correct tolerances due to wear over time, especially on watches that were left to run dry instead of being serviced. This creates play that shows up as lack of consistent performance. If you somehow came upon a NOS movement and serviced it instead, I suspect that its performance would be more steady.

[@dsb1763]

Will there be a part 2? The tropical dial looks great. The movement shows how solutions can vary widely to reach the same conclusions. I thought I saw some of pivot holes were loose with the gear axles shaking in them, but I didn’t rewind the video to back this thought up. Great job and video as always.

[@MyRetroWatches]

Not sure on part two. I will re examine the balance abs fork to just see if an stray hair or something obvious. Part of me wants to tear it all to bits again and rebuild without the camera running.

[@dsb1763]

@@MyRetroWatches 😂😂 No problem on not having it recorded, just give au update.😂😂

[@USAHaCkY]

Hello Mike. Good job. I would double check if the hairspring collet is perfectly tight.... Kind regards

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thank you. I will check that

[@alvinpillay9995]

As always another great video. All the best for the new year.

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thank you. Hope 2021 is a good one for you also.

[@watchtock8818]

Great job Mike. It's always nice to see you challenge yourself. Happy 2021.

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thank you sir. Have a good 2021

[@PBGetson]

Why don't you use a piece of Rodico when removing springs, and anything that may 'jump' away. I watched another video where someone did that, and thought it was a brilliant idea.

[@glenh4971]

Great Job Mike!! You must have taken photo's along the way while you were taking that movement apart. Very complex movement as far as I am concerned. Thanx for sharing that experience. I enjoy your video's very much and also enjoy Marshall's video's. I am going to try taking a 6497 movement apart when it reaches me. Thanx for the inspiration.

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks Glen, Nice to read your comment. I did not take photos, I never do when filming. I only photo when working on things off camera. Filming does allow me to refer if I need to. My pattern is usually to film and edit the disassembly and then because if editing its all fresh in my mind again for the rebuild. I don't usually leave a watch a week before assembling either like I did here.. Ironically as I type this I have remembered I took a Zodiac apart 2 weeks ago and still not even cleaned the parts. Fortunately on that one I have photos. Marshals channel is great, he is doing way better than I am. I have been in communication with him too and he is a really nice man.

[@glenh4971]

@@MyRetroWatches Marshall seems real nice. Tomorrow I pick up a watch repair tool kit that I ordered. Waiting on many other things to arrive. My plan is to start with movement 6497 which I have also ordered. It will be a very long time before I reach your level. You have helped me to become interested in watch repair. I really appreciate it. I ordered one of those Parnis 6497 clone watches. Real cheap practise units. It will be February before it arrives.

[@donnyboon2896]

Excellent job. Perhaps inquire/research the movement to see if that washer needs to be there. If you can get the movement running to a more acceptable level, see if you can source that jewel cover and screw. I wonder if that has to do with shock resistance? Keeping the jewel from popping out under shock?

[@MyRetroWatches]

All possibilities however it’s not my watch so it will be up to the owner. To be fair I am another day on since filming the last bit and it’s still running on time.

[@donnyboon2896]

@@MyRetroWatches - So, you are a professional watchmaker? I want to do what you do, but buy watches online in poor condition to repair for myself. Everytime I watch a video I think, "I could do that for £100!"

[@MyRetroWatches]

@@donnyboon2896 no just a hobbyist . I run an engineering consumables company as my real job. Watches is how I relax. I’m never going to be near professional standards as that takes years and proper training !

[@babuphanuel6656]

As Like the Same style,colour , dial were available in India 40 years ago ... Invicta, Solvil Titus brand winding watches Sold forty, fifty years back. Movement Calibre nos are AS1506/07, ETA 1080, ETA 2390. The watch which you repair the movement SLS, Minute Wheel plate are to Same to AS1506,Pull out Click is Same to ETA 1080. Lever Plate is also Same to AS1506/07

[@andrewgrace4410]

Wow, you got it!!!👌🏾👌🏾

[@mgp00a]

Once again job well done!

[@serkoumba]

Congratulation Mike ! Fine work. Despite the missing parts you've done a good job. Like for you the restart of the balance weel is still a grreat moment of satisfacrion when i repair a watch. I'have just finished a landeron 248 chronograph mouvment from the fifties wich my grand father purchesed on that time. He was watch maker and let me few interesting old swiss mouvment in very bad condition now. Godd occupation for holidays with bad weather.😉 Friendly Serge

[@MyRetroWatches]

Hello sir. Wow nice Chronographs . I am yet to tackle a double register chronograph, complex things but something I really need to take on soon to challenge myself. Yes this hobby is a lot of fun when it rewards you with a running watch. My goal is to just inspire more viewers into the hobby.

[@dougholtz]

I think these watches bind a bit when assembled. I saw all the black tracking from the gears on the case when you took the watch apart. To this theory, why don't you try removing the swivelling rewind lever, which will take away some of the mass which would compress when the back gets installed on the case. I have a similar problem even without the auto-wind mechanism; when I put the back on one of my watches, it tends to stop. If you do this and the watch regains it's "timing", then you know the problem and can either keep the mechanism out or just live with it installed, knowing you assembled it well. Just a thought.

[@sharedinventions]

Have you oiled the pallet-jewels?

[@jwags24]

I know this will be looked down upon, but is it possible to clean up these dials without damaging them? I see it as being similar to people restoring vintage cars. I would love to see some of these older watches look brand new again.

[@moskauuhrmacher6833]

Sometimes it's possible to clean the dial, sometimes - not. It all depends on materials its made of, what kind of paint and clearcoat used, or it's galvanized with silver/nickel/rhodium/gold, or maybe it's an enamel dial. The best solution here: if you're not familiar with this exactly manufacturer, leave it as is 😉

[@stevewilliams5428]

Many prefer a vintage watch to have patina... and not look brand new. On some watches a re-finished dial loses the watch value. Even now some vintage cars are left with patina.

[@KillerByte666]

Great job on this beauty : well done ! Sad that the watch is not accurate as you expected 😕 One question what is the song at the end of the video, please ? Thx and keep doing mesmerizing video !!

[@MyRetroWatches]

I dont recall the name of the song as it is just in the royalty free KZbin audio library. Thanks for watching.

[@bgdavenport]

Your French may need work, but your English is spot on! "Detritus." Great word usage!

[@MyRetroWatches]

haha!

[@antsfur]

The erratic trace could be the missing cap jewels as they hold the pivot in place and stop it from moving up and down a bit like on those Seikos you were doing with the dash shocks cap jewels. You can still but them. I've done lots if those felsa movements look at the gross 4000 series and you will find an oil chart they are very nearly the same. That's a 1950's movement sp there must be lots of wear in it. Did you de magnatize all the parts?

[@MyRetroWatches]

Hi Tony thanks. I had considered the missing jewel after I’d finished editing . It’s something worth exploring possibly although I still have to give it back to the owner so it depends if they want me to investigate further. As for demag yes. The keyless was actually very magnetised and took a few attempts to neutralise. Thanks for watching and appreciate your insight.

[@ianmargetts4940]

Another cool vid bro, and very relaxing as well! At the end when the timegrapher shows it running bit erratic that’s when it would end up stamped on, prob well before that actually!😁 Nice looking watch as well, shame about the damaged dial, what. What do you do? ..

[@MyRetroWatches]

Hey mate happy Xmas and all that. Man I’m missing the watch fair meet ups. Gonna be over 12 months for sure. Glad you enjoyed this one.

[@csspinner]

Thanks, Michael. I'm restoring a 690, which is very similar to this one so this was helpful. One question I have for you is what kind of mainspring did it come with (blued steel or white alloy)? Upon reassembling mine, it is rebanking like crazy. The balance wheel is just swinging extremely strongly and slamming against the other side of the pallet with every turn. With the balance removed, the fork slams against each pin when I nudge it - far stronger than any watch I've worked on. I suspect that either 1) an alloy spring replaced a blued spring and it is somehow much stronger (though the measured width/height specs are similar to what's published), or 2) somehow that double wheel that drives the sweep hand pinion is supposed to serve as a brake in some way and it loosened up (unlikely). thoughts?

[@MyRetroWatches]

Funny how I only see this comment now Chris ! To answer your question I will have to go back through my records as I just can't remember. I try to rely on CousinsUK suggestions for mainsprings and run with that. Equally I may have asked my group for help too.

[@csspinner]

@@MyRetroWatches I'm happy to report that I figured out the issue DID have something to do with the double wheel . After running out of ideas (over oiling pivots, replacing with a weaker mainspring, etc), I methodically replaced each component one by one from a donor. As soon as that double wheel was swapped in, I achieved a healthy 270-290* of amplitude. It's hard to believe this part is supposed to provide some fixed amount of friction for the train to function properly, but it's been running fine ever since. With the original wheel, the watch began rebanking after only 3 clicks of the mainspring.

[@M3LTUP]

Nice job.

[@dvdknt78]

There is no washer when you fit the crown wheel under the bridge, you're all ok. Mainspring click will fit over the screw and is held in place by the bridge.

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thank you sir.

[@ianmichelino9697]

Cheers Mike! Thanks for this video! More than you’ll ever know. 😀 I started my first hobbyist disassembly last night on an Alsta Extra-Thin with a Felsa 700 Bidynator which is very close to this B&M auto. It took 4 hours to take down; lots of photos and notes and rewatching of this video. No lost parts!! What’s up with mainspring barrel design? Doesn’t have a standalone arbor - any thoughts? Thanks again Sir!

[@watchdial.]

good!!! 👍👍👍

[@jco1298]

Could you have found and downloaded a “manual” for the movement? And, phonetically I believe it is Bome and Mercy-aye. Really enjoy watching your channel.

[@MyRetroWatches]

I did have a quick look for a manual but you get a feel for where oil should go after a while. Thanks for watching!

[@scienceistruth1924]

Hi I am a great fan of your channel and have attempted some repairs of various movements myself, mostly with little success lol, however I was watching your timegrapher trace 1:10:10 to 1:10:17 or thereabouts and it seems the period from the flats is about 5 seconds, I also noticed the escape wheel is rotating at about once every 10 seconds implying that maybe there is something causing it to stick every half rotation such as a bent pin or misaligned jewel, maybe the missing jewel cover is causing an issue, it is all speculation of course but might be worth a look. keep up the fantastic videos and Happy New Year

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thank you for your comment John. I believe you are right. I am yet to investigate further the cause but everything points to the missing cap jewel. A few comments on here are also suggesting the same. As soon as I am in the new year I will take another look.

[@blenny47]

May the watch gods shower you with kindness in 2021 regards

[@Ioughtaknowbetter]

Thank you for this wonderfully detailed video! I am just getting started and still have so much to learn. I love the Felsa 690 movement and I have several watches that use it, as well as several 'Extra" and parts movements. How do you know what winder to use to wind the mainspring? There are several manufacturers who are selling individual winders, but I have no idea how to choose as they have an (To me) incomprehensible numbering system. Can you help?

[@MyRetroWatches]

you choose the winder according to the inner wall size of your barrel. With a winder set you offer up the arbors until one will easily fit the barrel.

[@Ioughtaknowbetter]

@@MyRetroWatches thanks. I was hoping you could tell me which one you used, so i could buy one instead of a whole set.

[@peterhawley6273]

When you first started it up l thought you could have a problem with the pallets just a thought good luck and good videos

[@MyRetroWatches]

I really need to take another good look at it , it’s hard when you know your filming . A video could quite easily turn into 2 hours which I don’t think anyone would find interesting at that point.

[@jamesreid5286]

@@MyRetroWatches trust me, take as long as you want... I'll watch it all ;)

[@dandrechsler6884]

Cheering for you the whole time. Sorry about the end

[@romeldphillips3146]

I have a Girard Perregaux movement and case that I would love to donate to your channel

[@tedblack2415]

Well done, its revived ..still reasons to be cheerful 👍. (edit) I was gutted when you mentioned the cleaner had packed up always look forward to that (do i need to get out more lol ? )

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks. Well you will be pleased to know the Brenray is back up and running now. I had the motor rewound. Cost a lot more than expected but I could not live without it!

[@tedblack2415]

@@MyRetroWatches Glad to hear it & keep up the good work ,the slip ups only show yr human, we may spot them but we've not got a camera in our face working til the wee hours😉.

[@StopFear]

Mike, are you at all looking for people who may want to send you their broken vintage watch to be used in videos? I don’t know under what circumstances. Me paying you for repair perhaps. I have no idea how it is since I just found your awesome channel and videos.

[@ziloom11]

Very interesting movement makes for a very interesting video. I am curious of what movement holder are you using there. Kudos for great movie, and lets all have a better 2021.

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks . The holder in the disassembly was my vintage Pioneer British made. You can find them on eBay from time to time and it’s how I found mine. I also used my Bergeon 4040 . I do prefer the pioneer though.

[@alexandreprouvost3089]

Hi ! Did you check the lift angle for this movement ?

[@MyRetroWatches]

Yes and I found 52 degrees online

[@damienboyer715]

did you clean this one with an ultrasonic cleaner? if yes can you explain the steps, products used, times... Thank you.

[@MyRetroWatches]

I did . I have other videos on how to clean watch parts at home on a budget in an ultrasonic . For this one though I used some of my fluids from my watch cleaning machine in small jars in the ultrasonic,

[@RichardT2112]

Bravo, nice repair. Hope you had a Happy Christmas! Curious, for this type of repair, can one simply put the whole movement in an ultrasonic cleaner and then just oil the jewels? Wouldn’t that work as well and be easier for you?

[@MyRetroWatches]

Hi Richard. Happy new year. I’d never just put a whole movement in the cleaner. It would not clean sufficiently given plates are screwed in place and jewel settings are held in place. You then have the issue of ensuring all parts are dry. I have only heard of this being done on some old Timex movements where the plates are divided together.

[@DongHoDocLa]

super vlog

[@reiner0609]

The D.R.P. marking could point to a German patent that might have been registered for the movement. D.R.P. (Deutsches Reichs Patent) was used from the early 1900s until the end of the second world war. Maybe the manufacturer had filed both German and US patents for it?

[@watchmedraw4340]

My Hamilton has a felsa 4466 movement and I'm going to get frustrated and entertained lol.

[@thegrassyknoll7792]

The missing cap jewel could be the cause, if its not there the balance staff falls down and rides on the shoulder against the jewel, causing friction.

[@solstar4778]

My question is when do you go from hobby to professional watch repair person ?

[@MyRetroWatches]

In my case this would not happen. To be a pro you need to be trained for years and have qualifications to a high standard. I am no where near a pro standard.

[@AndyHullMcPenguin]

What is the period of that irregularity? It does look like possibly dirt in a jewel or perhaps a wheel that is slightly out of true. My bet is that there is a tiny hair somewhere. Maybe something as simple as oil not getting to the parts it needs to. Try wearing it for 24hrs again and see if it settles down. Its certainly not terrible, but it is a little odd. Did you clean and oil the mainspring? Was the mainspring barrel worn?

[@jenilocke8255]

I serviced a similar movement (maybe the same caliber but I'm not sure), I named that bit in the automatic works the "J" piece and even though I did eventually find out the correct name, the only name I remember is the "J" piece lol. I've had a lot of services that ended like this one recently and it's so disheartening as I don't have the expertise to fix parts or even know which part is at fault. I always enjoy your videos and this one was no exception, keep up the good work, cya next vid.

[@MyRetroWatches]

Thanks Jeni. The stubbornness on me wants to take it apart again and figure it out...

[@jenilocke8255]

@@MyRetroWatches I know that feeling lol

[@johnrogers2253]

Act Mike this watch is not that friendly. Trickery wither the ratchet mainspring and canon pinion , its workable but not friendly.. I have come across some wierd mainspring winding.... Good to have a win.

[@JenWolf9653]

Did you fix the problem

[@dodgydruid]

I recently uploaded a video on a quite old Ingersoll that was all jammed up and showed how I freed it up with gentle persuasion by tapping it softly into the palm of my hand in all four orientations and it hasn't stopped working since and holds superb time. Of course I won't be using it simply as it does need a lubrication service but once it fired up from a second to a couple seconds, then 5 seconds, 10, 20 onto a full minute it just seemed to thirst for life and lost its jerkiness and I left it ticking all night and let it run down its power and it kept going til the end keeping absolutely superb time. I pad a few quid for what is a very clean piece, its always nice when you get a brucie bonus like that, its funny as I am battling a Sekonda over magnetism, it is utterly infested with little attracties and kinda losing the will to live on that one, the bunching is right under the cock so the cock is shielding the hairspring methinks :( Been getting some wrist love for my hand built Vostok Amphibia 090 "radio room", in between my Pulsar Kinetic and Pulsar V600 :D

[@solimansalem7719]

Which Baume et Mercier model is this?

[@ramhajare8844]

Such nice thing complicated wacth....

[@solstar4778]

What is low amplitude ? Please explain! The face has a bit of a mess at 11 o’clock why not clean that up please . Will you order the missing plate and screw as a replacement?

[@MyRetroWatches]

Hello. Amplitude is the travel of the balance wheel on each side of rotation. The further it travels the healthier the watch is running as the power is being distributed through the train of wheels correctly. Amplitude number is degrees so an amplitude of 250 is 250degress rotation. Each watch has an optimum amplitude which depends on the size of the wheel. The train complications etc . Many factors . So to see low amplitude means that the watch is running , it will keep good time but it’s not at optimum and indicates an issue somewhere. You can’t clean dials easily without the possibility of ruining it. 11 is water damage stain which is under the lacquer and is best left well alone . I can’t find a cap jewel to replace the missing one.

[@hectormonclova7563]

It was so hard. Maybe the “US” thing is that the company registered that designed in the US archives of intelectual property, so maybe you can have its blueprints in Washington and asking for them you will know if that piece had a washer.

[@hectormonclova7563]

Sorry, meant the company registered the design.

[@hectormonclova7563]

Sorry, meant the US Patent Office.

[@JasZg]

Very nice watch..Too bad a crown is not original.I do have one " Baume" from 1940 in original condition.

[@gopalakrishnanramaswamy6562]

Whether this watch is of swiss make or the USA?In the plate,it is inscribed as USA.

[@MyRetroWatches]

It’s 100% Swiss but what the USA is for I don’t know

[@martijnvandonselaar8957]

@@MyRetroWatches wasn't there something with import taxes, think I've seen it in other brands as well. Assembled in US to dodge them maybe? Maybe Enicar / Racine?

[@Jasonphares2011]

could it be magnetism?

[@StopFear]

Have you ever opened someone’s watch and found some dried out bugs in it?

[@MyRetroWatches]

Haha not really but on my 5000 sub giveaway series on one of the first videos some eagle eyed viewers see a small bug crawl out of the watch! Watch had been bought in the Philippines some months previously!

[@dodgydruid]

Oh dear, gonna end up known as Pulsarman as whilst watching this I won a Pulsar titanium with the lobster bracelet for couple quid oh I love Xmas ebay :D

[@zarathustra1963]

A great way to end the year - and another great film. The damn was running so well before it was re - cased. After all that work I have to say i felt for you ( having watched all your projects ) and them all adding up to a success you were happy with. do you think you will shelve it and go back to it at a future point until your happy ? Anyway you know the old saying ..... if its got wheels or tits, its goning to cause you heartache eventually. Thought the piece itself was an elegant little thing ---- the high street shop windows of yester year must have looked fantastic with so many european and american brands competing in the market place - shame so many went to the wall or where swallowed up by the bigger companies when the whole quartz happening took place. Perhaps the micro brands of now can begin to offer more choice again - suppose we shall have to wait and see. Anyway I thought it was a great effort on your part and i look forward to the next 6 restorations / refits of 2021 ! Kind regards

[@betrayedsteam6855]

this piece same like nivada Gretchen antarctic one