Vostok 2209 Komandirski Watch Restoration (Or is it??)

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@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
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@MrGrentch
@MrGrentch 3 жыл бұрын
I've a lot of time for Vostok divers. Great little watches for very little money, with some interesting approaches to water resistance where they avoided Swiss and other patents and came up with some new ideas. The method of sealing the caseback gasket without the risks of distortion of the standard screw back case design. And the wibbly wobbly crown that makes you think it's broken. 😁 I'm gonna enjoy this. Kettle on, tea brewing, Thanks given.... and relax. 🙂
@RockandrollNegro
@RockandrollNegro 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't so much about avoiding patents, as commies don't believe in property rights, much less property of western capitalists. It was moreso "how can we simplify this basic principle and mass produce it out of the cheapest material for assembly by unskilled, unfed workers?"
@MrGrentch
@MrGrentch 3 жыл бұрын
@@RockandrollNegro The fact you use the term "commies" may show a certain dare I say it American bias to your opinion. Never midn a lack of understanding around the water resistant design involved. It's actually more complex and requires more parts than the standard caseback and seal. The same "commies" watch industry was started on an industrial scale in the 1930 when they bought and paid for the US Hampden watch company and shipped tonnes of equipment and 30 American staff over to Russia to help set it up. After the war that in essence became the First Moscow Watch factory where they produced all sorts of timepieces. While states spied on and stole other state's secrets- and the USSR was certainly not alone in this - it was for the most part around the military end, less so the commercial end and the Soviets were happy to sell Soviet made watches outside the country as it earned them hard currency, so they were quite aware of existing patents that could scupper that. You will find plenty of Soviet era made watches with English rather than Russian on the dials and casebacks. They were for export. Similarly when quartz came along they developed their own internally and copied or not as much as the Swiss did from the Japanese and Americans. Sekonda were originally a Soviet made watch company that was exporting to the West with different brands on the dials from the late 1960's and well into the digital watch 80's. And the Russians are anything but "unskilled" engineers or workers. Who stole all the firsts in the Space Race before Apollo? Who after the Shuttle was retired were ferrying people into space and with significantly fewer accidents than the Shuttle? They produced the most consistent near earth orbit system of the 20th into the 21st century. And they did it with significantly less input and help from other nations. I'll have some of that "unskilled" labour please.
@jakekaywell5972
@jakekaywell5972 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrGrentch I suggest you ignore Mr. Smith if he tries to be fresh with you in his response. Everything you said was true. The political system of the USSR was deeply flawed, yes, but their consumer goods were generally no better or worse than any other nation. Wristwatches were no exception to this and are fantastic values today due to Cold War-era fear-mongering. The Soviets also pioneered a lot of things besides space exploration with workers and engineers who were definitely skilled. Antarctic expeditions, the development of the mobile telephone, and the human-capable anthrax vaccine all come to mind.
@victor58010
@victor58010 3 жыл бұрын
Dat waps you up ,you wascally wabbit!
@UserUser-ww2nj
@UserUser-ww2nj 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrGrentch The only point i will take issue with in your comment is that you refer to is as " Russian " . It was the Soviet Union and a lot of the skilled workers came not from "Russia" but the member countries of the Soviet Union. A lot of the skilled work as done in Ukraine or by Ukrainian workers. Russia itself has not done a lot since the break up of the Soviet Union
@konstantin-1985
@konstantin-1985 3 жыл бұрын
Очень интересно смотреть про наши часы в руках зарубежных мастеров. Спасибо.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir
@АлексейСвистов-ц4ш
@АлексейСвистов-ц4ш 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for respecting such fairly simple but reliable mechanisms. Vostok is a watch manufactory with its original movements and designs of cases
@matthewelliott8198
@matthewelliott8198 Жыл бұрын
ive never been more jealous of a youtube in my life, there must be hundreds of little shock setting springs across my house that I've never been able to find after they randomly fly away and yours lands in the bloody timegrapher. lol great video :) ps, I've taken to pressing some rodico over the "hinge" part of the spring while i undo the little legs, haven't lost a spring since
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches Жыл бұрын
Springs can be tricky and I’ve also lost a few along the way but I now have feel for them and mishaps are less common. Rodico saves lives!!
@romanroizin4223
@romanroizin4223 8 ай бұрын
Ну молодец ! Есть у русских хорошая к этому случаю поговорка : Умный учится на чужих ошибках ,а дураку и свои не помогают !
@davidhammond9336
@davidhammond9336 3 жыл бұрын
Great patience you have shown here, well done. The spring install into the barrel is something to remember. Definitely give another Vostok a go, they are very interesting movements. Amazing how the little parts can disappear and then magically show up again where you have either looked before or would not expect them to be.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David hope all is well sir.
@davidhammond9336
@davidhammond9336 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches yes I am doing fine Michael, still obsessed with watches and enjoying these videos. Thanks for asking.
@RockandrollNegro
@RockandrollNegro 3 жыл бұрын
I had a chuckle when the incabloc went flying, simply because the same thing has happened to me twice this month, and I assumed the same hands/knees position in vain attempting to find one. What a git indeed!
@mcanever
@mcanever 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Michael! I admire that you managed to win against all the challenges this watch gave you. I'm a big fan of Vostok watches and I have accumulated quite a few of them, both new and vintage ones, because I love the variety of cases, dials and the value for money they offer. Regarding this watch, that's quite an interesting frankenwatch: I'm sure that these case, dial and hands are made for a 2409 movement ( more recent and tbh looking a bit more rough in terms of parts finish ) and not for a 2209, which is an older and "nicer" movement. The two movements aren't compatible in terms of dial feet and hands, that's why they had to glue the dial to the movement and crash the second hand. Quite surprised they went to the extent of making those modifications, given the very low cost of these watches (a brand new komandirskie can be as cheap as 20 pounds) so maybe it was just out of necessity or a less scrupolous hobbyist doing creative reuse of parts? Anyway, I'm really loving your videos and I'm slowly getting all the tools to get started and hopefully get to service my first watch movement... now I know it will be one of my old and beaten 2209s :)
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your insight. I certainly want to see an original now If the case on mine is original and I think it is then it would be nice to accumulate all the parts together and turn this one back to spec. Thanks for watching and good luck with your first service.
3 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches you can find lots of those movements on etsy for some reason - for 10pounds i got 18 of them, some working, some not, but maybe as beginner i will be able to make at least one working. :) Thanks for video
@paulwilson3434
@paulwilson3434 Жыл бұрын
Good luck with that. Harder than you think 💭 I’ll tell you. Mike is a pro
@Sergeant_Fury
@Sergeant_Fury 3 жыл бұрын
Comrade Retro, you are spared from reeducation holiday in Siberia.
@Bama_Law
@Bama_Law Жыл бұрын
My Russian friend concurs with this statement….lmao
@paulwilson3434
@paulwilson3434 Жыл бұрын
So funny ❤. Mike is the best ❤
@Akbar_Friendly_in_Cherno
@Akbar_Friendly_in_Cherno 3 жыл бұрын
I was so excited to wake up to this video. I'm only 5 minutes into it but wanted to comment about the loose crown. It needs to be pulled on a tiny bit to engage the winding. What I usually do is turn the watch crown side down and let gravity pull on the crown. That is usually enough pull to be able to wind it. It's been said that the loose crown is a feature not a bug ☺️ So if the watch takes a hit on the crown the shock doesn't transfer to the movement.
@alan-sk7ky
@alan-sk7ky 3 жыл бұрын
well if the crown is done up at the time.... ?
@edwardfletcher7790
@edwardfletcher7790 6 ай бұрын
These watches were designed for the military. That's why the wobbly crown is a thing. It is however hell annoying if you own a manual wound model...
@mattobrien3346
@mattobrien3346 3 жыл бұрын
I love watching and listening to you problem solve. Personally, the more difficult your problem the more I learn and the more interested the video is. Non-professional (not doing it to earn a living) watchmaking is all about problems, recognising them, coming up with a solution whilst being aware of the constraints of your ability/knowledge and deciding what to fix and what to leave - because 'it will do'. I often struggle with this hobby and that’s probably why I do it. Watching videos like this remind me that it's OK to accept that professionals we are not. We do it because we enjoy the challenge of doing it and are released of the burden of whether its financially viable or not. It is a cheap watch but a great video!
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Very good summing up there and all so true. I service a lot of Seikos now for others and mainly because the pro's are not interested in the work as its not a viable option. Hobbyist with a passion you can potentially get as good a job.
@dbzamora
@dbzamora 3 жыл бұрын
On a positive angle, its a win considering that it was a non-runner with those 'curve balls' (seconds hand, dial feet, broken pinion), you brought it back to life. So wonderful and very inspiring to watch your videos! Stay safe! Cheers!
@vladchan
@vladchan 5 ай бұрын
The art of winding a Vostok is to unscrew the crown and wind while slightly pulling the crown the crown away from the case. Then it will lock into the movement.
@1959Berre
@1959Berre 3 жыл бұрын
I admire your patience and perseverance while knowing, or at least suspecting, that this is not a genuine Komandirski. I have seen the real deal, and they are quite decent watches.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I now will look for 100% genuine and would like to do a comparison.
@alastairwright77
@alastairwright77 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches this is 100% a Vostock watch, or possibly two. It is genuine but it is possible the movement was swapped and the dial feet position didn't match. The 2209 was used in the earlier years of the 60s and 70s, later replaced by the 2416 with date, so not at all sure as this is clearly not an old dial or case. Perhaps a Franken, perhaps not, but definitely genuine, and who cares anyway, as there is so much interchangeability. These are still made today, with exactly the same design and construction as the originals, but perhaps a little less quality than the Soviet era.
@1959Berre
@1959Berre 3 жыл бұрын
@@alastairwright77 That is correct. Recently, I have learned a couple of things about Vostok. There are many hundreds of combinations of cases, dials, bezels, and movements. Vostok watches are dirt cheap; it would be impossible to build a "fake" for a price lower than a genuine one. Reading and studying about Vostok, I have become a big fan of this former CCCP brand. It is an honest product for an honest price. I definately like the Vostok Amphibia.
@Mitglied11elf
@Mitglied11elf 2 жыл бұрын
I bought a used komandirski in 1990 for 30 Mark and my "version" was different. I lost her by fishing and maybe I can't remember her look completely but the bezel was more flat and the crown less big. The print on the dial also was more fine. At least, it was an automatic. Very different.
@fatheroffive2657
@fatheroffive2657 3 жыл бұрын
You are a very patient man. Your skill level shows through with this challenging project. Most of us would have given up on this watch but you took on the challenge not only for yourself but for your viewers and for that I thank you. I would like to think that this watch was not “Frankened” to deceive anyone but repaired by someone in the transitional former USSR of the 1990’s, a time of political, social, and financial unrest, in order for someone to be able to keep telling time. Thank you for sharing your skills with us we appreciate your videos. Hello from Calgary
@staszeksowikowski9039
@staszeksowikowski9039 3 жыл бұрын
Im positive that this watch is franken too, although I think it was made recently as the diall looks too good and is probably a modern fake
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
This is a more positive way to look at this so I thank you for that. I am no the fence at being made to deceive, more just someone making a bit of money from parts. Either way it was an experience and a lesson for me.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
@@staszeksowikowski9039 I am in agreement. many genuine parts but not all from the right watch! dial I think i not right for sure but then I can find examples online that look the same. Not having ever seen an original in my hand I cant compare.
@mike44njdevils1
@mike44njdevils1 3 жыл бұрын
Final thought (also great job with the dial feet!). The "third screw" you had near the end was for the last intermediate gear for the winding works!
@vapingwithjames3370
@vapingwithjames3370 2 жыл бұрын
I bought mine new from Russia 3-4 years ago and yes the crown is a wobbly wee thing but once you get used to it you’re golden. I absolutely love mine except for the 18mm band width, so wish it was a 20mm strap. Great video
@j81851
@j81851 3 жыл бұрын
Good job Mike don't feel slighted. It's obvious nobody has loved this neat watch yet, until you came along. You gave it the same level of intensity you would a Rolex and innovated, improvised and came through with a serviceable product! I'd certainly wear it with pride! Just think if you can pull this one off what will you be able to do with a proper one! Great Job!
@leewmlee
@leewmlee 8 ай бұрын
Speaking of gluing dials to a movement that didn't fit, I did the very same thing on a non functioning mechanical vintage Timex. Removed the spoilt movement and hot glued a modern quartz movement behind the dial. Then used a new set of matching hands as the old hands didn't fit the quartz movement. Kept its vintage look but it keeps perfect time now without the hassle of winding it everyday.
@Yellowjacket-n7q
@Yellowjacket-n7q 7 ай бұрын
Much like the Mumbai watches, I have always wondered what these movements are like. Thank you!
@daresome1
@daresome1 Жыл бұрын
I have bought two of these on eBay and 1 new one. I was going to put a new movement and case with a very vintage dial. My expertise would have it looking like the worst frankenwatch when I am done. Enjoy your videos
@bigriceburner
@bigriceburner 5 ай бұрын
It's not a failure at all you did a good job I watched every minute.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 5 ай бұрын
Thank you. This is one of my older videos now.
@bigriceburner
@bigriceburner 5 ай бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches yes I know. I still wanted you to see my thought. 🙂
@gusthesailor4885
@gusthesailor4885 3 жыл бұрын
Well done despite all the traps on the way :) I own one genuine LOL Vostok "Scuba Dude" and was able after one week (no timegrapher here) to regulate it to minus 2sec/day (originaly was plus 38 sec/day !! )
@michaeldevito5575
@michaeldevito5575 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tune too during this cleaning process. Thanks Mike d
@tickingWATCH
@tickingWATCH 3 жыл бұрын
Quite a nice looking movement and compact 👍 It look that this dial comes from Vostok movement 2414 and therefore someone removed dial feet and glued it 😀
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you A few of you here in the comments have mentioned the 2414 which I might have to seek out eventually and turn this watch back to its original state.
@tickingWATCH
@tickingWATCH 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches Would be nice to see it but additionally except movement a new movement ring (or holder) and could be also a new dial could be needed
@ronjenkins4257
@ronjenkins4257 Жыл бұрын
Well done. For some reason I'm pleased to see the disproportionate effort you have put into this watch, given its value and dubious provenance. Your work is a statement that the watch is a thing in itself, worthy of a chance in life (using "life" loosely here). Also, it's a statement that the journey matters, not just the destination. This watch has taken me in imagination years back to somewhere in Russia or the Soviet Union, to a watch "repairer" with little in the way of resources, little in the way of respect for the integrity of the watch, but lots of determination to get a working timepiece out of his hands and onto someone's wrist, at whatever cost.
@ronaldchapman2806
@ronaldchapman2806 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video. An edge of the seat thriller. Speaking as someone who likes watches aesthetically but has no mechanical ability (as I have poor eyesight and hands like boxing gloves) I can only admire your heroic patience.
@boriskimmina2429
@boriskimmina2429 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike! Great work. That is clearly a watch from the early 90s after the breakdown of the Sowjet Union (no 'CCCP' on the dial). At that time they took what was left on parts in the factory and botched together whatever possible to make some money. So it actually may be 'all original'. They were better before that time and better afterwords. I personally always look for CCCP on the dial of a Wostok. If it's there all will be fine.
@alastairwright77
@alastairwright77 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, but they were never so bad as to glue the dials on, hehe, so someone has definitely been there before
@Sigma.l33t
@Sigma.l33t Жыл бұрын
мои первые часы из детсва. спасибо за видео.
@jeb-zf4un
@jeb-zf4un 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the video. It had all the elements suspense, drama, questions to be answered and well edited. Thank you.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@VicDzenFPV
@VicDzenFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Great job!!! This movement doesn’t have usual cannon pinion used to separate gear train from setting mechanism as a clutch. It has that tall two-pinion gear connecting barrel and minute-hour reduction wheel. It serves as a clutch. It can fail and you’ll spend a lot of time guessing what’s wrong. Watch just stuck sometimes, it runs superacurately, second hand is moving, but minute-hour hands are not ))). Real fun.
@russellschultz7312
@russellschultz7312 3 жыл бұрын
What an admirable degree of tenacity you have! Entertaining and informative as always.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@grahamburgess8456
@grahamburgess8456 3 жыл бұрын
Hi that was very interesting...quite a challenge I think, I have 9 vostoks and after regulating a couple of them I find they keep very good time and seem to be quite reliable, there is quite a following for these Russian chaps and they are becoming popular with enthusiasts, thanks for a great video👍
@HeikosGarage
@HeikosGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Great persistence. You finished that watch even though there were quite a few road blocks. Good job.
@timholden7031
@timholden7031 3 жыл бұрын
Great video mate. I do admire your honesty and the fact that you're down to earth. Far too much snobbery in the watch world. I've had and still have plenty of Vostoks, and the genuine article is a great watch. I do admire your work.
@brendanhurley8780
@brendanhurley8780 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I've watched an hour-long video on refurbishing a Lada watch. Fascinating stuff, great video, I'm hooked.
@martinward7239
@martinward7239 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe I've just bought a broken Lada watch based on watching this...
@perkulo6379
@perkulo6379 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Mike, I have trained on these cheap Russian watches, they are full of surprises, but normally they come together and performs well. Keep them coming.
@DrHWO
@DrHWO Жыл бұрын
For me it's not so much the destination, but more the journey. I'm sure many of your followers will agree. Thank you.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches Жыл бұрын
Well Said, thanks
@victor58010
@victor58010 3 жыл бұрын
Well done ,you have that determination to finish that will carry you through the challenges every time.
@donbrough6386
@donbrough6386 11 ай бұрын
Well done Mike! Not an easy one and you smashed it.
@paultillett3189
@paultillett3189 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I admire your patience
@gustavoabachegardie650
@gustavoabachegardie650 3 жыл бұрын
Great job Mike, thanks for your amazing videos, i really like the little features of this whatch like the ring on the backcase and the stars in the ratchet wheel. The glue and fabric makes this video shocking.
@stephenlamb90
@stephenlamb90 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a herculean effort to get that watch into order, but well worth it, I think. Thank you for posting such an honest and 'warts and all' video - it's refreshing to see a rebuild that isn't all plain sailing and reminds us 'tinkerers' why we should stay away from watch movements. It's a shame it didn't keep better time after all your hard work, but I guess you can't win them all. Keep up the great work.
@milolll
@milolll 3 жыл бұрын
Love your detailed description! Camera always focus on the high-contrast, so just move away the high-contrast from the center, then it will focus on the object you want.
@Ed-G
@Ed-G Жыл бұрын
I am in disbelief over the condition of the works. I mean the file marks are all over and DEEP!
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches Жыл бұрын
Yes this one was almost a bridge too far
@pablofierros3312
@pablofierros3312 3 жыл бұрын
You fixed it. That is the point. Very nice. I learned a lot. Thank you
@lobdsk
@lobdsk 3 жыл бұрын
Man that watch would have gone into my bin. Patience of god
@miguelolivero2332
@miguelolivero2332 2 жыл бұрын
Problems brings expiriance. Good job. 👍
@dennisc.1189
@dennisc.1189 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, talk about the bottom falling out from under your feet, you felled into a big pit, awesome job on digging out of that. I think you did a great job on the watch, seeing what you had to start with.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dennis
@davidfarrell7318
@davidfarrell7318 3 жыл бұрын
enjoyed the video i was amazed you got the watch running with all that glue inside look forward to the next one.
@Greg-et2dp
@Greg-et2dp 8 ай бұрын
My Retor watches your vintage vostok 2209 komandirski watch ⌚️ is awesome my friend
@Dave062YT
@Dave062YT 3 жыл бұрын
Great job very tricky but worth it,I love Amphibias ,on my 7th dif case shape now .There is a special charm about them that sets them apart from everything else on the market .I'm collecting every case type of the little beauties and reckon I'm halfway there.Then there are a few Komanderskis I want for sure .especially the K39
@whatsstefon
@whatsstefon 3 жыл бұрын
I’m a huge fan of Vostok watches. Sadly, a lot are not. I even went for an interview a few weeks ago for an apprenticeship as a watchmaker and the watchmaker fobbed me off because I was wearing a Vostok. I took that as a sign that I wouldn’t want to work with a snob anyway.
@michaeldevito5575
@michaeldevito5575 3 жыл бұрын
This happens to me to Mike with the 50 Happy year Mickey watches. Very hard to line up the impulse jewel with the pallet fork. You did great.
@michaeldevito5575
@michaeldevito5575 3 жыл бұрын
You did a great job Mike. Thanks much.
@johncunningham5435
@johncunningham5435 3 жыл бұрын
This has been a very good experience; helps bring your skill set to a different level, " I call that a big win ", nicely done.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you John, It definitely tested me which makes for good video.
@Greg-et2dp
@Greg-et2dp 8 ай бұрын
My Retor watches ⌚️ you good at restoring vintage watches ⌚️ my friend
@davida.7586
@davida.7586 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect Video and Explanation! Thank you!
@pokie6087
@pokie6087 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought mine and it looks identical to this one. So they haven't changed much then 😁
@timstoffel4799
@timstoffel4799 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and instructive watch repair. Every challenge you document for your viewers is one more that we will be less likely to faze us. And there are some new techniques to learn here as well, like how to deal with dial feet problems. This watch may not be the best runner with the wrong movement, but it is actually quite an attractive looking watch. Thank you!
@WUDN-WatchUDontNeed
@WUDN-WatchUDontNeed Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this awesome video! I have a VEY similar model (with date window) from the mid-80's (so Soviet). I'm happy I had it serviced, despite paying more for servicing it than buying a new one. I have a video on my channel showcasing it. I think these watches have a charm of their own. Thank you!
@jamiebrown1065
@jamiebrown1065 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up a Vostok Komanderski Submarine watch for my grandson, because he's into Russian history right now and liked the Soviet style of it. Hopefully the movement is kinder to me than this one was to you. Thanks for tackling this, it will help me with my restoration.
@nhand42
@nhand42 3 жыл бұрын
If my successes were half as good as your failures I'd be a happy man. You brought that watch back from the brink and it looks fantastic.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Just takes time and anyone can learn all this.
@tony59able
@tony59able 3 жыл бұрын
Loved your video. First one I've seen. Very entertaining and informative. I have just bought my first Vostoks, an Amphibian and a Komandirske, £50 on Ebay and £25 direct from Russia, both new. I Kind of bought them out of curiosity but I've grown to love them. Both working well and comfortable too. Thanks for sharing.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony this is great to hear. Since my Vostok video and realising I had a lemon watch I’ve been interested in buying a genuine version.
@banjoperator
@banjoperator 2 жыл бұрын
Was it worth it..yes it was.. when beginners see the things that happen to experienced people it points out what can happen to anyone, perserver and your experience grows .. your channel will always increase because of your work..cheers
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Yes I’m just like anyone in this hobby. I don’t try to sugar coat my videos to make them look all professional, what you see is believable. Over 5 years on YT now sadly I don’t grow anywhere near as fast as many other channels doing the same that have come after me. Can be disappointing but just the way it is.
@paulwilson3434
@paulwilson3434 Жыл бұрын
I could not figure this brand out. Complicated. You did 😅. ❤congratulations 🎉
@bill6634
@bill6634 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job, steady hands sir.
@andrespinto1077
@andrespinto1077 3 жыл бұрын
The restoration video was great, but your Smiths timer is really something! An amazing piece of british design!
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks it’s certainly loud!
@rogercox6020
@rogercox6020 7 ай бұрын
I think your remaining screw at the end of the video belonged to one of the gear wheels near the setting mechanism. It was there when you disassembled but not when you replaced the dial at the end. Great video though and your patience is much better than mine!
@rachelm9990
@rachelm9990 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and am very much enjoying the content. I have never really been into watches (I don't even wear one) but I love watch movements. I think they are beautiful puzzles made of engineering art. Still too intimidated to take up the hobby but love watching you work!
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. its the micro engineering that I like also, and the aesthetics.
@pdmotors5027
@pdmotors5027 3 жыл бұрын
A very interesting topic and great that you can figure it all out👍
@dylanlamb8710
@dylanlamb8710 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to sit down and watch the whole video! Some of my favorite content! Thanks!
@gromit1996
@gromit1996 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Russian watch brand. I love that dial, as I collected quite a few of that dial and different case configurations. :) I've got a few of these and it's going to be my first movement tear down, clean, and rebuild. Nice timing on the video. :)
@red75v67
@red75v67 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. What a struggle this one was. I've got a few Vostok Amphibias and a couple of them always seem to end up on my wrist over much more expensive modern watches. I too have a wrongun with a damaged case, crazed crystal and a movement in need of service. Eventually I bought a new case, closely followed by a new movement. When I finally put it together, it would have been easier and cheaper to buy a new one I suppose. All that's left of the original watch is the vintage dial and handset!🤔
@markwade1376
@markwade1376 3 жыл бұрын
An excellent enjoyable vid Mike. I'm sort of pleased that you end up running into the same issues as me whilst working on watches of dubious history. Your channel is what got me into amateur watch making, please keep it up👍
@davidwilding
@davidwilding Жыл бұрын
What a struggle! Maybe it wasn't what you'd hoped for and yes, a Franken-watch. But you got it together! And that was great to see. Interesting that you didn't put the keyless works on till much later. I always thought you had to put all that on in order to test the watch's running. The bits that always get me are the clickspring, train bridge and, especially, the balance. I suppose that if you feel you're getting somewhere with reassembly, it IS worth doing (though I'm WAY off THAT being a success of any kind. Personally I've been a bit down on myself recently as a potential watchmaker/watchfixer, but always good to see how it should be done! :)
@daves6259
@daves6259 2 жыл бұрын
Once again you came Through Great .Job, Keep it coming
@MegaBandit1250
@MegaBandit1250 3 жыл бұрын
Love these watches, I have several. Enjoyed watching your challenge, well done.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@tjwright
@tjwright 3 жыл бұрын
I have this exact same dial & case Komandirskie I bought brand new for under $40 US shipped, so I have to think this one definitely wasn't worth your time. :-) But I get it. I've bought quite a few old tired watches to tinker with. Nice job with it!
@youjustlikeit3774
@youjustlikeit3774 3 жыл бұрын
5:26 "The dial is looking pretty nice! Not a mark on it." For an older Russian watch, I took that as foreshadowing. Good video though. 👍
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
This was at the beginning. Now I believe the dial is most likely a reproduction. The whole watch is made up of different watches!
@bullwinklemoose8291
@bullwinklemoose8291 2 жыл бұрын
The project wasn't a failure in that you made a nice video that showed your problem solving skills. I've rather become a fan of watching watch restoration video's and it's fascinating to see how you all get around the obstacles you encounter. Plus it induced me to subscribe, so there's that! :)
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Its a fantastic hobby which can throw up some interesting problems!
@VicDzenFPV
@VicDzenFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Try Slava 2427 ! Superb and very interesting movement. Highly jeweled, day-date automatic. Pretty complicated for soviet watches. There are tons of different designs and cheap as hell!
@sharedinventions
@sharedinventions 3 жыл бұрын
"This watch is throwing everything at me" - Welcome to the club! This is why I say, Soviet watches are more challenges than Swiss, Japanese, etc. watches.
@10746865
@10746865 3 жыл бұрын
Terrific Video Mike, I'm surprised you got the watch running at all. A lot of hurdles to overcome and handled with aplomb. Great entertainment!
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jcxme
@jcxme 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Congratulations!
@pipodorologio1648
@pipodorologio1648 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your video again mate, surprised again and again about all these franken watches....have a great weekend
@stephenbarnes5373
@stephenbarnes5373 3 жыл бұрын
Well done mate you obviously have the patience of a Saint. Steve.
@phillipmaciver3226
@phillipmaciver3226 3 жыл бұрын
Another enjoyable video, the pleasures of watchmaking coming to the fore in this one for sure..lol. Look forward to your next (and hopefully less frustrating) project...👍👏
@bottletree33
@bottletree33 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual. I prefer the silver which you have compared to my dads brass. You have incredible patience. Keep going we love your videos.
@pdmotors5027
@pdmotors5027 3 жыл бұрын
All for seeing you work on another Russian watch. I would like to believe that the more expensive models,ie, over a hundred Euros have a much better movement in them. Nice video.
@carloscarvalhido2424
@carloscarvalhido2424 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. For fixed studs you have to prevent the beat error when the watch is disassembled. You screw the balance to the plate and watch if the roller jewel stands between the posts. If not you can try to place it. Mark L. shows it in a video. That's the way I do :)
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks . I understand the theory it’s just the practice . Hairspring are not the easiest thing to work with.
@res00xua
@res00xua 2 жыл бұрын
I got a dial feet kit and tool On Ali express that cuts a relief circle in the back of the dial to get them flush after affixing them.
@rbmwiv
@rbmwiv 2 жыл бұрын
May be the glue was factory it was in the shape of a v, just saying lol. Another great video. So you know you have asked in other videos if anyone watches to the end. I do I watch until the video switches to the next one off your playlist. Trying to get that knowledge. I will be tearing down and rebuild of a Mumbai special. I have 2 one that doesn’t work but I can’t remember where I put it. Should have put it in one of my many cases. It may be there. I have 2 24 watch boxes and 2 12 watch boxes. I’m 46 and my grandfather got me hooked around age 8. Use to fix a lot of digital watches but now I am going to start to learn to service a mechanical watch. I am really confident I will succeed after watching you videos. Luckily I have a digital microscope that is for electronic work. I do a lot of that. So it takes pictures of every step. I will let you know if my first attempt produces a running watch.
@adrianbirkett594
@adrianbirkett594 3 жыл бұрын
Ah Mike I think I would have thrown that one in the parts box!, your time is so important. Good learning though. Well done. Adrian
@mikebond6328
@mikebond6328 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t mind a frankenwatch if I got it cheap. It’s fun figuring out what you should have and what you actually have. But if I bought a Bulova and it had a Timex movement I would be a little upset.
@jeffreyhickman3871
@jeffreyhickman3871 2 жыл бұрын
That looks 👀 like 👍 a good 😊 mainspring winder 🌬. That beats 🎧 winding 🌬 mainsprings by hand ✋. I’d be afraid 😳 of cuts, suffered by sharp mainsprings. Some KZbinrs can “walk” the spring out of the barrel, then back in. Another worry is the spring popping you in the eye 👁. Your friend, Jeff.
@simonosborne3047
@simonosborne3047 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant vid. I have 3 Vostoks - 2 Komandirskies & a Scuba Dude. Also I have a small load of 2209s & 2234s for practice pieces which I haven't started on yet. Just a thought about the stem not screwing in all the way: if the case isn't original to the mov't, the stem may be just a tad too long. Ask your mate, he'll know better than me.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I think the stem is correct for the watch but not the movement. The dial looks too low down under the crystal too suggesting its not right for the movement.
@dodgydruid
@dodgydruid 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this vid for a good while and thoroughly enjoying it, thank you for the kind words too. Abs masterful work you have done there, just a shame its a bit of a hodgepodge but saying that, the 2209 movement is far more reliable than the 2414A it should have had.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help Ian. This one turned out to be a right Frankin and I suspect the movement is still not running right. One day I may look for the genuine version .
@SomeAngryGuy1997
@SomeAngryGuy1997 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, it should have been a 2409, since the dial doesn't have a date window
@sonnypena194
@sonnypena194 3 жыл бұрын
Toughest job you have done.
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Close. I’ve done worse off camera!
@sonnypena194
@sonnypena194 3 жыл бұрын
@@MyRetroWatches I’ve watched all your work.
@ole-kristianfossmann7682
@ole-kristianfossmann7682 3 жыл бұрын
Always a joy to watch your videos
@MyRetroWatches
@MyRetroWatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
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