Baxter Performance Oil Filter Adapter Install and 1 week following up.

[@grariaz7051]

What an honest assessment of this product. I am very interested in this item and you have made me aware of some of its drawbacks. I appreciate you.

[@JeepsLimited]

@grariaz7051 Thank you. I'm glad it was helpful.

[@henrybucki7813]

8:14 i used a long handle Allen wrench candy cane type. would hook inside the fitting and just turn it to tighten the fitting

[@jeffmoore9179]

That filter looks large, I was instructed to use the WIX 57502 filter.

[@akonitony2]

Go ahead and splurge on the XP version of the Wix filter. It upgrades the filter media to synthetic rather than the base cellulose found in the regular Wix.

[@JeepsLimited]

Good to know. I'll check it out.

[@85Stang331]

What does this do to help. I’m a former Jeep tech and do these cam and lifter replacements still.

[@JeepsLimited]

@85Stang331 The housing has an anti drain back so it keeps oil in the filter rather then letting it run back down into the pan. It's supposed to eliminate dry start.

[@TwoFeatherChannel]

@@85Stang331 I'm still not sure if these devices are a gimmick or not. I've talked to a lot of Jeep 3.6 Pentastar owners, who do daily driven and hard core offroading and None of them have a problem with the factory cartridge filter. Jeep isn't the only company that uses this cartridge style filter, Toyota and others use it and You don't see any of them complaining about Dry Start problems. in the youbietubie vrese, a lot of companies give thing away for free, to the tubers to make videos on the product. that's how a lot of this starts by making people think they need this item.

[@41nestdogg]

The 90 should be put on then adjust the black baxter housing so you CAN get your closed end wrench on the 90. After that the set screw for the threads can be run down. Learned this from install on my sons JK. Good vid.

[@JeepsLimited]

That's a very good point. That would have been a lot easier lol.

[@BNJAMN_HardRock]

Just installed this with the same WIX filter. Kevin Baxter actually returned my call and helped me over the phone! My cover fits I just had to make sure it goes into back grommets! I also installed the J&L oil separator, which makes the vacuum lines even more challanging, but J&L want me a 90 to go around oil filter! On the downside I do have a leak in the oil filter housing.

[@JohnSmith-sh1zg]

@@BNJAMN_HardRockwhere is the oil leak exactly? Just installed mine today in a 2018 JL

[@BNJAMN_HardRock]

@@JohnSmith-sh1zg hard to tell exactly somewhere on the top rail underneath the manifold. Mine still has the OEM plastic oil filter housing, I have reset the Baxter twice and used soapy water when putting air to it. It’s not the Baxter. I have oils all over the underneath where you would think it’s the main seal, but it’s comjng c from up top

[@JeepsLimited]

@@BNJAMN_HardRock good to know they have good customer service. And I don't normally have the cover on there anyway so I gave up pretty easily lol

[@randymiller5008]

Best Solution.... Switch to 5w 30 Full Synthetic oil . 💯👍

[@JeepsLimited]

@randymiller5008 I'm just a little hesitant to change the viscosity of the the oil. In theory the thicker oil can not move as fast so it's potentially getting less oil to parts.

[@xlightssx]

@@JeepsLimitedI believe the thicker oil won’t flow pass the anti drain back valve as easy as the thinner oil.

[@rb2291]

You gotta use the purolator part number and get the upgrade “boss” edition. I also highly recommend prolong engine oil additive. I can let the Jeep set for days and start it right up with no priming and makes no noise.

[@JeepsLimited]

@rb2291 Thanks for the advice.

[@marqgunderson1168]

That filter is large. Could be that with so much volume to replace with the drainback that is occurring, a smaller filter would fill faster. As another poster said, WIX 57502 is only 4.1 inches high (which would make it fit better under the engine cover. An Amsoil EA15K50 is only 3.4 inches high, so would also fit. Each of these has the proper thread diameter and pitch (M22 x 1.50) to screw on, and the gaskets are each also the proper size (O.D. 2.75", I.D. 2.397"). Bypass valves also around 13 psi. The other advantage to this install is possibly avoiding boogering up the bypass valve in the OE filter cap by installing or removing the OE filter incorrectly. Perhaps a follow-up video with a smaller filter to see if the clatter time is reduced further.

[@JeepsLimited]

That's a pretty good point. I'm due for an oil change so I might do that. Thanks for the idea.

[@jakeapplegate8943]

Yep Baxter website calls for a wix 57502

[@JeepsLimited]

@@jakeapplegate8943 there's a couple different that fit. Tho the shorter ones are probably better for a few reasons.

[@sipnscoot3049]

2015 Chrysler 200c it’s not the original owners manual. It’s the Manual you can get at auto zone or Amazon. I have a 2008 Durango 4.7 and it works for this vehicle too. Specially when sitting for a bit or a new oil change

[@Honestcritic79]

You could’ve installed the strater valve on the filter first before screwing the filter on.

[@JeepsLimited]

@Honestcritic79 I believe i tried to do that but it sticks out to far so there wasn't enough room to spin the body.

[@sipnscoot3049]

Here’s the thing. I found in the owners manual. If you hold the gas pedal down and cycle the ignition, it’ll prime the oil into the motor. So you don’t have a dry start. Also that whole configuration seams to be a pain in the ass.

[@chrispurzer9461]

Where, exactly, what year is your vehicle and what page is this info provided?

[@jeepinintexas6215]

​@@chrispurzer9461I can confirm this works on a 2012 Wrangler.

[@apostleyayaHsu]

clear flood mode

[@jeepinintexas6215]

@@apostleyayaHsu no flood, it's not a carbureted engine. Holding the pedal down disables the fuel injectors.

[@TheMightyMaxx]

Also, you won't be able to remote start your vehicle using this method.

[@benfoot4212]

In the end, is it a worthwhile purchase?

[@JeepsLimited]

@benfoot4212 for me yes. It has had no positive effect. But keep in mind i don't drive my jeep every day. Sometimes not even every week. For others it seems like it has helped improve or even fix the problem.

[@james6275]

Hey bud just cought your video. will that be good for a grand cherokee as well or will it be to high and possible hit the hood plus the engine cover may be in the way, they need to do away with that up above filter and relocate it at the bottom

[@JeepsLimited]

@james6275 to be honest I'm not sure how they fit on a grand cherokee. I'm sure they can answer that if you contact them. And i agree they need to re design it lol. Thanks for watching the video and sorry I can't be more helpful.

[@chrispurzer9461]

Can you see oil pooling in the "V"? I think that ANY leakage from the plastic cooler housing will defeat the Baxter fix, resulting in the resumption of dry starts.

[@JeepsLimited]

If there is any oil leaking from the filter housing or cooler you should just replace it.

[@henrybucki7813]

remember the orange colored cap on the oil filter.thats the one for the aluminum housing .Dorman @@JeepsLimited

[@JeepsLimited]

@henrybucki7813 it's not actually a Dorman brand but your correct that it's an aluminum housing.

[@michaelfrick3687]

The Baxter Oil Filter Adaptor does not address an oil cooler housing leak. That's a totally different issue, which requires replacing the oil cooler housing itself. The Baxter product is brilliant engineering: it is well made, and is designed to eliminates dry start issues because it allows us to use a superior oil filter with an anti-drain back valve.

[@StepStool26]

It still clatters, could be the lifters going out on it as well, which the 3.6 and 3.2 are known for. I've seen hit or miss reviews on the Baxter adapter.

[@JeepsLimited]

In some circumstances, the lifters could be a problem making it clatter. I know for a fact my lifters are good because at the time of this video the engine only had about two thousand miles on it

[@SolosHold]

You gotta replace them , the bearings are already bad on rockers.

[@JeepsLimited]

@SolosHold the engine only had like 2k miles on them at this time so aren't bad. Pluse I've seen engines that clatter at start up but have good rockers. That noise is not necessarily rocks and lifters. It could also be timing chain. The hydraulic chain tensioner takes a few seconds to fill with oil.

[@SolosHold]

@@JeepsLimited Its your jeep, I have replaced so many sets of the rockers I have lost count. I have seen them go at few thousand miles or several dozen thousand. I have seen them bad on brand new jeeps aswell. do what you like, but when you do them, use the melling replacements rather than the mopar. Advice is free, and wisdom is hard earned. Guess you would rather wipe a cam or two out before you replace the rockers. instead of the baxter all you gotta do is hold the gas pedal to the floor and crank it to prime, it wont start, then lift to reset the TPS and crank to start normally after priming.

[@JeepsLimited]

@@SolosHold have you ever seen issues with the timing chain? With the hydraulic tensioner they chain is slacked for about the same amount of time that the rockers/ lifters are dty. I've heard other people say that makes noise at start up as well.

[@warriorfamily3730]

Definitely hear the Lifters. Did it go away or still making the noise??

[@JeepsLimited]

It still makes the noise. I usually prime it before I start it if it's been sitting a while.

[@williamtoney2599]

For future reference, don’t put oil on pipe fittings…use pipe tape or teflon pipe dope. You will have a lot less leaks in the long run..

[@JeepsLimited]

Thanks for the info. I think that's what they said to do in the instructions but I could be wrong. Will the pipe tape / pipe dope hold up to the heat under the hood?

[@williamtoney2599]

@@JeepsLimited oh yeah, that’s what it’s made for. I’m a retired mechanic and I try to use the Loctite pipe dope in a tube….good stuff. If you have one that maybe the threads are worn , from over tightening, then the teflon tape will probably work better as it helps to make up for the worn threads.

[@JeepsLimited]

@@williamtoney2599 good to know. Thanks for the advice.

[@randymiller5008]

It still requires full oil pressure to open the valve. So , it doesn't eliminate dry start's 🧐

[@JeepsLimited]

@randymiller5008 yeah pretty much. It might help reduce how long it takes to get oil since the filter is already full but that's about it.

[@JohnSmith-sh1zg]

WIX 57502 is listed in the directions.

[@JeepsLimited]

There seems to be several that fit. The only problem I had with that exact filter was the cover not fitting. I'm assuming other filters are probably just smaller.

[@JohnSmith-sh1zg]

@@JeepsLimited yeah they give a list of 3 brands and their respective models. Maybe if you get a height measurement of your filter I can do the same with the model WIX I used. 🤷‍♂️ For curiosity purposes.

[@BNJAMN_HardRock]

I have a 16 Hard Rock Rubicon and am using the WiX 57502XP

[@JeepsLimited]

@JohnSmith-sh1zg sure I'll measure it this weekend. This is how we learn lol

[@JeepsLimited]

@@BNJAMN_HardRock does the plastic engine cover fit on yours with that filter?

[@jamespalmer4945]

Has anyone ever tried this on Pacifica? I’m wondering if it will fit with major notifications

[@JeepsLimited]

@jamespalmer4945 I'm guessing if this particular one doesn't fit then they probably make one designed for that vehicle.

[@caroltruhan8532]

Will the engine cover still work

[@JeepsLimited]

I did not get mine back on but I didn't try very hard because I normally don't have it on anyone. I think others were able to get the cover on.

[@tarzan30809]

You have to make a hole

[@JeepsLimited]

@tarzan30809 you can leave it off I'm you need to as well.

[@NarleyAdventures]

@@tarzan30809 Thats what I'll be doing.

[@Broncofan-4life]

Looks like the Baxter boys need to do a little more engineering. Whole thing looks like a pain in the butt. I have a brand new grand Cherokee with the pentastar engine, don't think ill take a chance on this .

[@jamespalmer4945]

Maybe just get 5w30 instead?

[@JeepsLimited]

@jamespalmer4945 i wouldn't recommend using thicker oil. The engine was designed to use 5w20 for a reason. If the engine has a harder time moving thicker oil it might be starving it of oil. Plus that won't do anything as far as holding a prime when the engine is off which is what this is supposed to do.

[@ronhank8280]

Where to buy

[@JeepsLimited]

I ordered from Northridge 4x4

[@sipnscoot3049]

Also mopar is really the only filter they recommend for there services. They have a unique standard. For pressure and fitment.

[@JeepsLimited]

I actually agree with you on both of these. I demonstrate the oil priming in the video. However with the oil priming technique on the original filter set up you can get a check engine light for a cam shaft position sensor bc your spine everything over with little oil pressure and the can phasers are not in the right spot. The fact of the matter is the oil delivery design is not very good and there is really nothing you can do about it. I installed this hoping that it would make a difference and it does but it does not fix it like they claim. Part of my issue is I don't drive the vehicle on a regular basis either. If it's driven daily you might have better results.

[@jasoncox4328]

​@JeepsLimited I wonder if you used a heavier weight oil would solve the problem. It's what I'm going to do when I install mine.

[@LynxStarAuto]

That chatter is not oil bleed down, that is your phasers showing wear.

[@JeepsLimited]

@LynxStarAuto yeah that could be.

[@sipnscoot3049]

I see. I do drive my car everyday. Maybe add an oil supplement to help with lubrication? I’ve had good luck with Z-Max. It penetrates deep in the metal.

[@JeepsLimited]

Yeah you could as long as you don't thicken the oil with it. These engines qre design for a high flow of thin oil. You don't want the oils being too thick thus making it move slower. Tho I'm also just overly concerned bc I had an engine blow with only 67k miles on it and I'm not sure exactly why it happened. I just know it was an oil issue.

[@tarzan30809]

Be very careful with the installation, the oil filter housing as everyone probably knows is a weak link in these engines and any rotational stress will cause it to fail and leak oil and coolant, plus it is a $15,000.00 repair including parts and labor unless you can do it yourself. Been there done that :(

[@JeepsLimited]

I had to replace my engine last year. Only had 67k miles on it. I would also probably recommend only installing this on an aluminum oil filter.

[@philsonnenberg6092]

$15,000 repair?! Where are you going to get your repairs done and what are they putting in as parts?! Solid gold?! I just had the oil cooler replaced on my 3.2 and it was $841 TOTAL for the upgraded all aluminum cooler.

[@JeepsLimited]

@@philsonnenberg6092 I think he might be referring to replacing the engine if you were to cause damage to the oil system and cause the engine to blow.

[@philsonnenberg6092]

@@JeepsLimited but damaging the crap plastic oil cooler is less than $1000 repair. WAY less if you do it yourself, which is totally doable with a simple set of tools. I only had mine done since it was still under a service contract. I just paid the upcharge for the aluminum cooler, which was $125.

[@tarzan30809]

1,500.00 sorry for the mistake. The dealer charge $1,200.00 for labor and the part cost aprox. $300 with taxes. I changed the part myself and if you look the way that it is connected to the engine base you will how this will be prone the failure again. Good luck with your Jeep@@philsonnenberg6092

[@williammuenster7386]

You need to clean that filthy engine!!!

[@JeepsLimited]

Yeah it's pretty bad lol

[@shanec.7105]

Agree, it does not eliminate the dry start. Total solution- avoid Jeep altogether. Its such a crappy product when you buy an expensive vehicle in the $50-70K, you have so much problems. Dry start, death wobble on a low mileage stock chassis, etc., etc. They built it to screw you out of a lot of money on new engine, chassis build every so often. Have you heard of replacing chassis parts at 20K miles?

[@JeepsLimited]

I've not really had any real problems with the frame or the stock axles, suspension, or steering. Just problems with the engine

[@thomasmorris2852]

I’ve had nothing but close to bulletproof reliability with the 1 yj, 2 tj’s and my current 2016 jk, but even so, I’d agree with sketchy reliability and engineering from fiat and stellantis generations that’s very disappointing to a lifelong jeep guy like me.

[@an6073]

i experienced the same EXACT scenario... disappointed

[@chief1972]

I don’t like it.

[@JeepsLimited]

@chief1972 yeah it really doesn't do much for the engine anyway.

[@patrickderubis4527]

Can't believe people fall for this scam.

[@JeepsLimited]

@@patrickderubis4527 I wouldn't necessarily say it's a scam. It just doesn't work as well as I think it should. And I think it is a bit expensive, given it doesn't work for everyone.

[@michaelparker8603]

Another reason NOT to buy a Jeep!

[@JeepsLimited]

I actually agree lol. I'm really disappointed with the 3.6.

[@scooter300]

Makes me mad that im driving around c reports 2024 worst car builder in the world even worse than kia ,hun, hell even land Rover. Thanks jeep for your sucky engineer's.

[@JeepsLimited]

I definitely think there are some real issues with the motor that need to be addressed.

[@larrybelanger3156]

400 BUCKS IS TO HIGH FOR IT

[@JeepsLimited]

@larrybelanger3156 I agree in my situation. Again for some it might work and be worth the money but for me for $350 it did absolutely nothing.

[@sandy5548]

What if it saves your engine,that’s cheap insurance.

[@JeepsLimited]

@sandy5548 i agree with you onbthat but I personally don't think it's doing anything for your engine. At least for me I'm sure it's not since it hasn't actually improved the dry start problem.

[@mikelee-w2o]

Well which is more 400 for that or 4,000 for another engine

[@JeepsLimited]

@mikelee-w2o oddly engine this $400 dollar part is installed on my $4,000 dollar replacement engine lol. But it's a lot of money to spend on something that might not actually be helping prolong the life of the engine.