Bayonetta 3 REVIEW | Demons gone WILD!

Bayonetta 3 now available on the Nintendo Switch is hands down my least favorite in the series, but far from a bad game. At the very least I'm happy we finally get to control Bayonetta's demons!! Bayonetta 3's demon summon is my shit, I feel like it's something I've waited for, for sooo loonngg. Bayonetta 3's combat is super fun but sadly the story can't keep up. My review of Bayonetta covers, gameplay, story, music and more~! Ignoring the drama between Platinum Games, Jennifer Hale and Hellena Taylor Bayo 3 is a solid character action game! If you haven't already do give Bayonetta a try, but I'd start with the original Bayo. Enjoy my thoughts on Bayonetta 3!
" The witch is back and more powerful than ever! Bayonetta struts through multiple locations in an all-new , over-the-top climax action game. Sporting a wicked new ensemble and somehow familiar pigtails, the titular Umbra Witch must face a mysterious evil using her signature guns and time-slowing Witch Time ability. This time, invading manmade bioweapons called Homunculi find themselves in Bayonetta's crosshairs."
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[@alittlebirdi]

My favorite criticism of the Jeanne sections was something along the lines of "Jeanne is the Vegeta of Bayonetta". Why would Jeanne be sneaking through a military facility instead of just smashing her way to the goal? They should have had Jeanne as another playable character for combat missions, and had Luka, the investigative journalist and normal human dude, do the stealth action!

[@PelvicGaming]

OOO, that's a GREAT idea!! Whelp...to late now xD

[@derrickdaniels3955]

Wasted Opportunity

[@Soveliss74]

I like the stealth sections

[@Justitia_Nomen]

Omg, Luka doing stealth missions is fitting for his character.

[@derrickdaniels3955]

@@Justitia_Nomen He is an investigative journalist and Eddie Brock from the Venom movie who also is a investigative journalist says it best, it involves following people who don't want to be followed and hiding in plain sight. Not to mention everything we've seen Luka do, again wasted opportunity.

[@ricardobelmont5984]

All these universes and not a single lumen sage one that kinda bummed me out. I loved the weapons/demons but I felt there were less minion encounters compared to the previous titles. Overall, I did have fun but it did feel like it was missing that oomph from 2 or 1.

[@acheronrecusant]

IMO they key difference between Viola and Nero, and why the passing of the torch works for Nero but not Viola, is because DMC lets Nero be cool and he was given two games to flesh out his character. Bayonetta has only given Viola one game (and a very small portion of it at that) and always undermines anything cool she tries to do with dumb slapstick.

[@VaeVictus17]

That's the point though

[@Oceanandskylinevidss]

Yea capcom handled the passing the torch thing way better than platinum. But didn't dmc5 have more budget ? I'm sure it did and sold more.

[@acheronrecusant]

@@Oceanandskylinevidss Maybe Platinum shouldn’t have tried to do this story if they didn’t have the budget to make it work.

[@Oceanandskylinevidss]

@@acheronrecusant Yup, they flew to close to the sun so to speak. But at least the combat was superb to me.

[@VaeVictus17]

@@Oceanandskylinevidss nah I would say Devil may cry 5 sold more because it was around well over a decade longer than bayonetta and more recognizable characters. The budget was up there but honestly the big budget was to be expected. Sadly we won't get gems like that from Capcom anymore or anytime soon. DEI investments have infected the company

[@sidewinder2057]

This is one of the most in-depth detailed honest reviews of this game covering all little aspects - challenges, mini games etc. and condensed at the same time. Instead of praising the game like the majority did. I expected almost a masterpiece judging from other glaring reviews and was kinda disappointed as a result. This review nails it!

[@DrVonBoogie]

The relationship between the two characters felt like it came out of nowhere for me and it only made things more confusing when it was confirmed.

[@tubguinace]

Funnily enough that's the one thing I didn't have a problem with, Luka and Bayonetta have always had a flirty back and fourth, they were clearly set up to be together from the very first game. The problem is the way they reveal who their kid is and how out of nowhere they pass the torch. And it's weird because the kid isn't theirs technically, it's another universe's version of their kid. The passing of the torch did not feel earned at all.

[@DrVonBoogie]

!!SPOILER!! @@tubguinace see that's the thing, at least to me, their chemistry felt about as strong as her's and Rodan. It felt more like her character is just flirty as opposed to "this is a set up for their relationship". You can even unlock Rodan as a weapon his moveset makes it seems like they have more of a reason to be together than the other guy. Bayonetta and Jean is an even stronger argument. I think the major thing I didn't like about the pairing and how it felt forced also relates to why I felt like their multiverse was a letdown was how they presented Viola. Instead of treating her like she was just the daughter of Luka and Bayonetta from another reality they made it seem like she was the daughter of our Bayonetta and Likes which was confusing and kind of dropped the ball. If they did that they could have made a stronger case for Luka and Bayonetta while potentially setting up their relationship for a future game.

[@ataridc]

Bayonetta had a lot of lgbt support due to personality and shipping and Japan hates america and lgbt because they are perpetually 30 years in the past culturally

[@tubguinace]

@@ataridc I think that's absolute nonsense, people used to criticize Bayonetta as a character designed to satisfy the male gaze. It's not until recently when people have tried to make her into some kind of LGBTQ icon, it's dumb.

[@tubguinace]

@@DrVonBoogie I agree with everything except I do feel Bayo and Luka were being set up from the first game, Luka always had a special interest in Bayonetta, she was as flirty with him as with anyone else but there was definitely chemistry between them. By comparison, Rodin never showed any interest in Bayonetta in that particular way, he's just doing his job around her really. None of the flirting is ever reciprocated to her by Rodin. But yeah, our Bayo and Luka treating Viola as their own was very very weird.

[@Catspirit123]

I’ve never been so disappointed with a game I was excited for. The combat was fun but everything around it bummed me out. That ending really soured me on the franchise

[@Maesterful]

Me too

[@Kwandaman]

Same

[@Batman-jc5uc]

I agree. The biggest shock for me were how bad the graphics were, even for a switch game.

[@victhom19]

Bayonetta 3 was my most anticipated game since it was announced. The constant wait and leading up to the release. Then I got the game finally and while I enjoyed the combat, the story wasn’t explained properly especially with the ending and the different universes. Things felt convoluted, the Jeanne should have been used in normal combat instead of those side missions. Viola didn’t deserve the ending she got quite yet it’s too soon for her.

[@VaeVictus17]

Well no it's not, not if you use multiverse theory. And convoluted? It was actually quite a healthy story progression that explained a multiverse assimilation was occurring and Bayonetta was the key to stopping it.

[@PelvicGaming]

Thank you so much for watching!! Look forward to my SMT4A review and the end of the year video~ huehuehue! Also how are we feelin' about the new thumbnails? Also please consider supporting me on Patreon! I'd really appreciate it! www.patreon.com/PelvicGaming Edit: Also don't forget to follow me on Twitch. I'm TRYING to stream a little more~ www.twitch.tv/lady_pelvic

[@BaneKeldare]

SMT 4 you say?! Can't wait ^^

[@hightopdeluxe]

I think Viola was alright in the game but she was definitely utilized poorly, especially towards the end

[@budgiecat9039]

didnt like her gameplay

[@VashKein]

I’m curious if I’m the only other one bothered by this: did anyone else find the enemy designs abysmal and incredibly generic? The first 2 games had some phenomenal enemy designs and this one either had weird blue transformer/bug monsters or the same blue power ranger putty patrol knock offs. That was another detractor to my enjoyment of the game.

[@BeatGoat]

The person who did the majority of Bayo 1 & 2's enemy designs doesn't work for Platinum anymore, and it shows. I thought Bayo 3 had a few great enemies, but the rest are really generic and non-descript, like overly detailed blobs where you don't even know what to focus on.

[@tubguinace]

One of the most disappointing aspects of this game for me was the enemy designs, the Homunculi are so darn boring, the Angel and Demon designs for the first two games were so creative by comparison, the only design element I find interesting about the Homunculi are the way they spawn, sort of by being made of many human bodies that were gellified. It was one of my favorite aspects of this series so seeing how bland the enemies are in this game was a bummer, and you fight mostly Homunculi the whole game, with angels and demons almost exclusively showing up in some challenge sections. I got hyped in the desert level when demons showed up for a bit, thinking we would start seeing them regularly in the mix of enemies from then on, but no, it was just that small section. Just, everything about the Homunculi and Singularity is so boring and uninspired to me.

[@alejandrorodriguezdiaz3493]

True. And even more than the homunculi, the problem with this game is the totally forgettable antagonic character. SPOILERS!! If Bayo ends up dying, let it not be because of some random madman one day decided he wanted to be the king of the multiverse, sheesh. Other than him, his homunculi and the lackluster passing of the mantle (wich didn't bother me a lot, if I'm being honest), the rest of the game seems incredible for me. I had a blast with it to the very end

[@ambiv5995]

Bayonetta 1 is what you call a pasion project. Bayonetta 2 and 3 are money grabs. You can see the difference. I said what I said and don't f @ me.

[@TheOnlyMeChanneI]

@@ambiv5995 amen

[@Shaes_Projects]

While I think some of the mechanics surrounding the homunculi were interesting, outside of a few, like the two-headed dragon, the monkey swinging over the lava, and the jellyfish, I liked them more through their gimmicks than their designs. The dragon heads that hide in the sand and jump up were fun to fight, climbing on the heads of one of them as the spider demon was neat, though something that was done better with Iustitia’s tentacled heads in Bayonetta 1. I don’t necessarily think Platinum lost their passion either, I thought the new Bayonetta origins game looked like they really want to show a new wholesome story for Cereza as a little girl. Astral Chain was a phenomenal action game in between Bayonetta 2 and 3 with very unique mechanics that felt simultaneously natural and easy to learn, but took skill to master. Much of their creature designs for that game felt unique, but still Platinum-like and they were built around the various chained legion controls. It’s just that Bayo 3’s homunculi designs don’t feel very Bayonetta-like and they don’t feel like much of a threat. Angels in Bayonetta 1 didn’t feel like threats to Bayonetta herself either, but they weren’t made to be because the story was just Bayonetta hunting angels that got in her way. Their threat came from their scale. I really liked some of the multiverse concepts and multiple Bayonettas, but I hope Platinum handles the homunculi better for Bayo 4.

[@tubguinace]

@@marcel-pb2ul Why they look the way they look wouldn't change my opinion, their designs are boring, I don't find them interesting. I don't care what source they took inspiration from the end result is the same.

[@3TopicsReviewer]

Another great review Ms.Pelvic as someone who has only played and owns the first game your quality of content continues to get more and more impressive as time goes on and I openly admit that sometimes I do look to your channel for inspiration. Keep up the amazing work as I'm sure you will continue to post up even more amazing content in 2023.

[@Shimmy8]

Your reviews are always so entertaining! Thank you for your awesome video.

[@PelvicGaming]

Thank you so much!! I appreciate you watching!!

[@dot8731]

Stellar review. I more or less agree with every point you made. Love seeing honest reviews like this and it’s why I trust your opinion for years!

[@MrGamer07100]

I did enjoyed it, and I thought it had it’s moments with some welcome features. But something was off that I couldn’t put my finger on. Sprinkles of greatness, but not the strongest.

[@drowningin]

Yeah I forced my way through it, and put it back in its switch case and on shelf which means, I’m never playing this again. I have a carry case for games I actually want to reach for and play, and that is limited real estate

[@nicky7458]

Agreed with everything except Bayo 2 Jeannes design was really nice imo. Jeanne with long hair is top tier

[@PelvicGaming]

Nooooooooo. Her slicked back hair was sooooo beautiful!

[@nicky7458]

@@PelvicGaming I'm not disagreeing on that. Her design in 1 and 2 are both perfection! We don't talk about 3 though

[@juanoliva267]

I was interested to hear your thoughts on this game and I think its okay we have conflicting views on this game. I agree the ending was so out of left field towards the end and the villain was lame asf! But I really liked the open levels and searching for secrets and easter eggs along the way! Plus some of the challenges were fun while some were kinda annoying like having to use the train to kill all enemies in a short time. But I loved my time with this game! Also I'm surprised you didnt talk about the boss in the forth bayonetta reality cuz that so awesome!!!

[@BryanTruong]

Appreciate the detailed review

[@jlord75]

Honestly since I anticipated the game for years I am happy someone else can give an objective review. I am sad to hear it but glad you didn't hold back on your review!

[@PelvicGaming]

Awwh, well thank you so much for watching! I too was looking forward to it but man....what a let down.

[@omgitsbees]

I can totally accept that Bayonetta 2 is a better game. I loved both games, and really appreciated that Bayonetta 3 had actual interesting cutscenes this time. But the story was a big missed opportunity. They could have done much more crazy things with the multi-verse. I agree with you on ambition, and it needed more time to flesh it out. I agree with you too on what should have been done with the multi universe Bayonetta's, they should have done more with it. Absolutely did not expect to agree with you so much on this review hah. xD I still loved the game though.

[@trcsonic]

Best review for Bayonetta 3 so far. I agree with everything you said.

[@igosduikana3537]

It bums me out to admit this bayonetta game was such a let down narratively. Plus I miss the more solid art direction of the older ones

[@PelvicGaming]

Same! I wanted it to blow people's mind!

[@Frallicus]

Something about the Graphics: they made it so the graphics appeared worse in handheld due to the limitations. The game looks a lot more polished if played on a dock

[@astrocyborg]

Chaos gears that’s triggering Jack from strangers paradise as we speak 😂 but on a serious note amazing work queen pelvic never change keep up the awesome work & hopefully the insane Nintendo fandom don’t go after you too bad but if they do just know your actual viewers appreciate your content

[@PelvicGaming]

Thank you so much for watching! So far I haven't pissed off the Nintendo Gods yet haha. I appreciate your support!!

[@umbranelegance9034]

The more time passes, the more the hype dies down. People are finally starting to see the cracks. It had potential but it was definitely rushed. Just the enemies alone leave alot to be desired. If 2 had any noticeable tells in its enemy animations, 3 lacks almost any whatsoever. You will hear the sound of an attack JUST as it's hitting you lmao no light signal, no wind up, no NOTHING xD

[@babeyling8999]

I think it's funny when people say it's rushed when the game was being made for almost 8 years. I think the problem wasn't the rush, it was the fact that the original producer of the first 2 games left for another company and countless other people who worked on the first 2 games weren't working on the third game. It's a shame that the game turned out this way but it's not rushed, it's just not good.

[@elreins]

Your looks in this video... GLORIOUS!

[@PelvicGaming]

Thank you!! :)

[@Sam-xq3xh]

You always have the best takes tbh

[@NuiYabuko]

Because you agree with them?

[@Maesterful]

Personally I think Bayonetta 2 is easily the best out of the trilogy. I was so disappointed with 3

[@chrisdaslaya]

Great review, all the problems you have with the game are backed up with things you enjoyed from the previous ones. Also in the comments you go really deep on explaining yourself. Ill look forward to your reviews in the future.

[@Jack-nj9pi]

This is legit how i felt about dmc5 in the story for sure, what a shame

[@lightsabersamurai1040]

New subscriber here had some friends from my livestrem recommend your channel. Love the review style keep up the good work👍

[@PelvicGaming]

Wowie!! Tell your friends thank you for spreading the word! And thank YOU for subbing and the kind words!

[@10Bendog]

About your comment on the darkness of the game - have you tried to adjust the brightness settings? I got the prompt the first time I started playing, and I think you can do it whenever in the options. I'm just seeing the game footage you have and I swear none of the stages were this dark when I played through them.

[@PelvicGaming]

It said to adjust the lighting until you can barely see the symbol on the screen! And I did just that!! Haha, even some of the footage you see I BRIGHTENED in post cause I was like bruh wtf.

[@10Bendog]

@@PelvicGaming That's fair. I just saw that clip on Baal singing inside the one room with that door and it immediately struck me how much darker it was than from my experience. Then once I saw it, I kept seeing it in the other clips. I seen this in other videos of 3 as well, like the Baal Zebul sequence where her face at the start would be very shrouded in shadow, but then in my game everything is nicely lit up and visible. Maybe I'm playing on a higher brightness or sth, idk.

[@PelvicGaming]

@@10Bendog Yeah, it sounds like we both were on different settings, and if I'm being honest, your settings sound a hella lot better than mine. I would have MUCH RATHER this game be brighter.

[@1hardyparty]

Solid review. It's a good thing I never cared about story in most video games so I think Bayonetta 3 is awesome! I didn't understand nor cared about the story of the first 2 so I knew that I wasn't for the third. I play the games for the over the top action and Bayonetta herself.

[@lazydoctorr]

Any other games that you'd recommend that are similar to the satisfaction you get from Bayonetta series? I just bought immortal fenyx rising but I want something dope like this, the action was awesome

[@1hardyparty]

@Joy Drip thank you for asking for my opinion. Question for you, do you have a PS4 or 5?

[@lazydoctorr]

@@1hardyparty I don't play on my playstation anymore to be honest, I hardly have time, so I'm always on the switch :p I thought you were referring to Bayonetta on the switch

[@1hardyparty]

@Joy Drip oh I was lol I was wondering if you play PS so I can recommend DMC 5 (Devil May Cry 5) it's the series that gave inspiration to Bayonetta if you haven't heard and 5 is the best one. If you are sticking to Switch. I will say DMC 3, Astral chain and Neir Automata. All very fun on Switch.

[@1hardyparty]

@@marcel-pb2ul they kinda did. They were just forgettable.

[@BeatGoat]

That was a very thoughtful and balanced review! I've been seeing people rave about Bayo 3, but as a veteran player, it really disappointed me. It reached some great highs in terms of the core combat, but those were overshadowed by the worst lows out of the entire series imo. (P.S. Agreed that Bayo 1 Jeanne was amazing. Unmatched HBIC vibes.)

[@PelvicGaming]

Thank you so much! You're not alone in feeling disappointed. I really wanted Bayo 3 to knock it out of the park but...it flopped harder than I imagined. I agree the combat was fun! Deserving of 2022 game with best combat! But damn...the storytelling... Oof. (You have great taste!!)

[@decusq]

This is why i love your reviews, YOU TELL IT LIKE IT IS! Thank you for another great and honest review!

[@NuiYabuko]

"You tell it like it is"? Because you share her opinion? People should stop acting like there's one opinion that's the undisputed truth, especially just because they agree with it.

[@thepatternofchairs9814]

I love all 3! Your video was great and I appreciate you laying it all out I had to beat part 1 TWICE since the pacing was awful. Stop to stop go stop go. The cutscenes were painfail in a friggin hack n slash game. Second time around I loved it tho Part 2 I loved quickly, but I think it was the high from part 1 that helped me get through better. Part 3 was great but it DID take me a bit to beat, I put it down a lot. Can’t wait for part 4! Also..can they bring back Sinatra’s Fly Me to the Moon again? Miss that..

[@lewa3910]

100% agree with all of this. I'm even in the minority of people more critical of Platinum now after this (tho really Babylon's Fall was clearly a sign to be sure). Hellena has fallen from grace for me, as someone who wish now to know less about her considering what She consider's " Charities". I was Such a superfan of hers before this whole debacle, loving her in Bayo 1 & 2, & the Read Or Die TV anime as Yomiko. Now it's just like Harry Potter to me, something i'm not gonna be as happy to share about now. But still I think Platinum was in the wrong cuz They lied 1st about the reasons for voice change. Hellena didn't have to lie at all, and alot more people would be on her side who happen to share her politics (which I don't), but it still doesn't change that Platinum ALSO Lied. It's just soured what used to be one of my Favourite games of all time 😢

[@NuiYabuko]

PG never lied though. Why people keep pedalling that is beyond me.

[@evil4resident]

@@NuiYabuko for real, they keep repeating that lie over and over lol, PG left it vague and simple.

[@geminidrake]

Viola, unfortunately, is a character the company wants you to love but you want them to go away. Not just because she’s not the lead(s) you’re used to, but because she feels forced and the company is making you love them to a failing result. Case in point: Dante from dMc, or in real life John Cena or Roman Reigns from WWE (which my opinion on both wrestlers has changed). I probably will never play a Bayonetta game. This one, while “flashy” in its own way, feels… contrived and trying too hard to appease multiple genre fan bases. Currently watching Jazzyguns play through this, and her commentary and gratuitous swear count has made it interesting. I applaud you for your honesty and your great review. Unlike this game, this wasn’t forced nor did you beat around the bush. Straightforward and to the point. You are amazing and awesome. Keep up the great work.

[@michaeltaylor788]

Actually most people are ok with her but hate how she activates witch time and they think she did not earn her title at the end of the game.

[@dcloud3791]

Bummer! Thanks for the excellent well-rounded fun review though!

[@davidrv2098]

Thank you for your review! I'm a bit sceptic about Bayonetta series and I see it's a shame that this is a Nintendo exclusive saga, I really hope they release this for PC to fully enjoy the art for these games. On another note, are you trying Chained Echoes?

[@v.m.9198]

The giant demon fights make me wonder if platinum is thinking of a kaiju game down the road

[@aaronlenk9340]

I kinda have a spark of hope bcs they confirmed bayonetta will always be a story about cereza so I hope they rlly take their time developing bayonetta 4 and I hope bayonetta origins will be cool . kamiya tweeted that he had a different plans for bayonetta 3 but he forgot them

[@100Servings]

I'm really proud of you for getting through this. You posted several times how little fun you were having, but you're a professional and you powered through to the end. Bravo! I know a lot of people complained about this game, but you're really the only one who gave an objective and subjective review covering the game in its entirety. You didn't dwell on the change of voice actors, and you were the only critic I heard to address the music at all. This is why your opinion is the only one that matters! Good work! This has been a winning year for the quality and number of reviews! You keep getting more skilled as a reviewer, and I hope 2023 is an even better year!!! 😃👍

[@ataridc]

I honestly wonder how many of these simp comments are from ppl that even played the game and formed their own opinion?

[@100Servings]

@@ataridc Well, first of all, I did not play this game. I played the first two, but I have a wife and kids now, so I don't think it's responsible to buy a lot of games. I wish I still could, but a dad in their mid 40s needs to act like one. Second, I know Pelvic didn't enjoy getting through this game. She received it as a gift, so she was obligated to play it. Also, she doesn't like to back down from anything she commits to, and that's admirable. Third, KZbin can be a lonely place. Sometimes you can put a video out you worked really hard on, and it gets completely ignored. Overall, KZbin viewership is down. Between TikTok and Twitch stealing their audience and their own draconian censorship, videos that would have gotten thousands of views are now getting hundreds. It can get depressing. I just want to help keep Pelvic motivated, since I know games are a passion of hers, and being able to make some money playing them is a huge help. And finally, and I mean this as politely as possible, you need to watch your mouth, punk. I didn't come in, make a snide comment to you, and upvote my own comment. I keep my insecurities and negativity to myself. I have a lifetime of military and law enforcement experience behind me and could probably pull out your front teeth one by one. You shoot your mouth off in the day and age where people can find out where you live and they're increasingly mentally unstable? Not a good plan. Mike Tyson once said that people are getting entirely too comfortable running their mouth online and not getting hit back. Keep up the stupid comments and it will happen to you. Believe me on that. Now, did you enjoy the game? What specifically did you want to argue differently about Pelvic's review? I'm curious about your opinion, and will listen objectively.

[@NuiYabuko]

Objective review? That isn't a thing.

[@100Servings]

@@NuiYabuko Objective is stating the facts about the game. How it functions, what the gameplay loop is, what kind of objectives it has. How you feel those things work is subjective, or opinion based. Saying a game has 25 levels is objective. Saying all 25 levels suck is subjective. For me, all my police reports are objective, statements of facts. Expert witness testimony in court is subjective, how I felt about what happened. Writing subjective statements on a police report is irresponsible and criminal.

[@JeveMCD]

Always look forward to your videos. Still haven't picked up Bayo 3, and leaves me skeptical, some of these new directions sound rough. Still picking it up, but Bayo 2 forever

[@realamericannegro977]

Volia plays the way she does to illustrate she is not as capable as Bayonetta. Good story telling through gameplay on that level. Next game Im sure people will love her

[@ITSJFE]

Is this game made for switch OLED? because I hate the way it looks on the original switch.

[@polomagic1]

10:11 "I feel like I'm spending more time chasing PU**Y than i am kicking ASS and taking names and i think that's one of my biggest PET peeves." The bars are crazy! Great review!

[@PelvicGaming]

Haha thank you for watching!

[@haise4516]

If u care about combat the most 1 and 3 are what u should play and story wise 2 is the best

[@stamkrits3019]

I've no opinion on the story yet (because I didn't finish the game) but the rest of this review is sooo on point!! I also hated the parts that have you traversing the stage on the back of a demon (spider etc). It felt like playing a slow Sonic game that controls like ass with pitfalls and everything

[@JustJulyo]

I've never seen the notification of the switch getting too hot! I just assume it went off a jet engine until it settled down

[@Htbaa]

This review describes exactly my experience. Tip: unlock the dash skill for any weapon to help catch the umbrean tears. I’m doing my second playthrough skipping the platforming and Jeanne levels. I also don’t like the extra levels you unlock by catching the tears. To my taste this game has far too less action and spectacular set pieces than the previous two games.

[@lenzoftruth1480]

YES LOL I discovered this right before I finished the game :) SO happy I did. The dash helped catch the cats easily.

[@Htbaa]

I must add that not all extra levels are stupid platforming! Some are simply boss fights and can unlock new weapons and summons.

[@gnuwaves743]

I understand the devs wanting to make the best game they could, but they really should have designed around the limitations of Switch graphics. Viola looks like the sister from Lollipop chainsaw.

[@Joy-boy-joy]

The hair is shorter? Nice review, as always.

[@Dasaltwarrior]

Bayo 3 is sloppily produced, which is weird considering how Bayo 2 was made for a technically comparable system and still blows many current games out of the water with its visuals and polish. Hell, it even looks and performs and performs better on the same system Bayo 3 was designed for 3 feels like it doesn't know what to do, and thats unfortunate, because the base combat is stellar and there are story beats here that can work, but it almost feels disinterested in developoning either of those things. Its tried to do way too many things when it feels like production clearly couldn't handle it

[@SaberRexZealot]

8:08 good review but that sentence hurt my brain

[@Perrier_enjoyer]

I'll never forgive this game for giving us comphet Bayonetta

[@houragents5490]

It's neck and neck with the original. Yurisisters.... It was always a head cannon Luka x Bayo was always the one actually being built up.

[@bobking9212]

Your review is spot on! I think if I had not bought the at cost dlc of Bayonetta 3 it would've been less confusing more enjoyable perhaps! It's a fun game I may replay it eventually. Let's now see about Fire Emblem Engage? As well perhaps? Again nice honest review!

[@PelvicGaming]

Thank you for watching!! All this did was make me wanna replay Bayo 1 and 2!

[@tanookiplayer]

I don't really play Bayo much for the story but yeah 3 had the worst story especially on how its told. I do like the characters & in 3 they are far more cutscenes than still images unlike 1 & 2. The combat itself is pretty good but nowhere near as fun as 1 & 2 especially in the enemy variety & focus too much on the spectacle boss fights. It was very ambitious.

[@realamericannegro977]

5:33 I knew you were going to show this after you said that. That bit here is solely to be a joke and a throwback to those old Godzilla games. They still could have made it faster

[@fz8238]

I’m totally agree with you. In complex a beautiful RPG, but for the story, and the graphics, is my least favorite.. And I’m so sorry about that. But, for example the story has almost no connection to the original; The homuncolus in comparision to the angels are literally less violent to kill them, with no blood and all less gore. Wich is one of the thing that I’m so sad for this game.. ah and BAYO have less hot scene…like 3 times in all the game; it seemed that it does not seem like her.. But yeah; in complex leaving aside the story and some graphic flaws, it’s a really good game. But obviously in compare to the other two, it wins only for the combat system

[@fz8238]

and I add that it is and remains a very valid title to play

[@Yuuki_Youtube]

I was so hype for this game. But is there a single chapter where you can just... play the game?

[@paulwarren29]

i have a feeling i'm going to reach the same conclusions on this game

[@paulwarren29]

where are we as a society where multiverse is a played-out trope

[@traceytillery382]

I don't think Clover Studios is around anymore, but this review has me thinking perhaps I should be glad there wasn't a Viewtiful Joe 3. The mysteries set up from the last game may have fallen flat or just not made any sense.

[@flamekiller32]

Best review i've seen so far. Would have been nice if they had explained the red tears a bit more. Frog is easy find it by sound, cat is a puzzle where you need to find either an enviormnet block or find a spot where its forced to move to catch it and the bird is just a path to intercept. Bird is so much easier once you get the fans but the cat is for sure infuriating. Some of the trials in this version are so bs, and get so much more annoying in infinite climax, I started wishing for bayo 1 trials =/. The story wasn't great and there was so many missed opportunities but combat is fun for the most part.

[@PelvicGaming]

Wow, thank you so much! Forgive the tear explanation, I have re-edited and reuploaded this video more times than I care to count I was over it. Thanks for watching and the feedback. :)

[@BeatGoat]

You can cheese most of the cat and crow chases using Umbran Spear (point in a direction + press R twice) as long as you angle yourself right. Saved me a lot of time.

[@flamekiller32]

@@BeatGoat nice, i'm bad at umbran spear =P. THe last cat caused me so much pain. the falls and the 30 mins at a time chase that one is truly evil. Haunts me to this day

[@DonkThikkness]

Been a longtime Bayo fan and I hated 3. It felt like an imposter, AAA shovelware. This may be me projecting, but the game felt toxic; like it was developed in toxic working conditions.

[@PelvicGaming]

Wow, that is a FANTASTIC way to put that. An imposter.

[@jickboi308]

This games story struggled at the end but the gameplay was to me superb all the way through with very minimal hiccups compared to bayo’s other sequel game.

[@fuqsamsung4481]

It's out?

[@roguerifter9724]

I haven't played 2 yet. I actually own it and have for years but I decided to wait until after 3 not realizing 3 would tale so long to come. I hate the ending of this and hope any games set after this use an alternate timeline to bypass the ending. Also they really, really needed to explain the villain's motivation IMO. Its like they took one of my least favorite villain plots from the Sliders TV show then decided to make it worse by leaving us with no idea what's drives the villain.

[@cokdstroyr]

personally, bayo 3 is a disappointment. And that says a lot. Its a great game, on its own. Not Bayonetta.

[@bobking9212]

...Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon?!? Possible input request Pelvic Gaming? I can't wait to replay Bayonetta 3! Tears of the Kingdom caused backlog on Shin Megami Tensei V, Demon Slayer-Kimetsu no Yaiba, Minecraft and Warden etc, Sonic Frontiers et al my Nintendo OLED big time...

[@yaqubebased1961]

Bayo 1 will always be Queen

[@divastarz5039]

i honestly did not want to watch bayonetta 3 reviews because i refused to hear critiques about it, i freaking LOVE the combat! Personally, my favorite out of the three. But honestly this review is so good! Others I've seen were just complaining just to complain, this really opened my eyes to how ass the story is. Thank you for the great video gorgeous!

[@PelvicGaming]

WOW, thank you so much!! Listen, I LOVE the combat too! Favorite out of the three??? I have to replay 2 to be sure, but this was an absolute blast no doubt. I appreciate you giving my review a chance, ESPECIALLY with my bold ass thumbnail despite not wanting to hear criticisms! I wish you and yours happy holidays!!

[@nunchuk28]

huh, I thought items stopped penalizing in 2, but I rarely used them there so maybe I'm misremembering. Either way, I didn't play this one, something since this got a proper gameplay reveal has looked off to me, and the more I saw of the full game, the more convinced I got I just wouldn't enjoy this one all that much. I'm kind of impressed how for a series whose story I have no interest on, they somehow get worse and worse with each entry despite being easier to follow compared to 1? But I think I'm good if this is the end of Bayonetta, I don't think I can be excited for anymore entries after how this turned out.

[@NuiYabuko]

So you didn't play it, but aren't excited for anymore entries based on how this one turned out? What?

[@nunchuk28]

yes? I've played the previous Bayonettas to know what I liked and didn't about them, this one in particular seems to crank down on having more minigames that drag on with the generally less memorable setpieces of 2. I felt the game looked lackluster since it had a proper trailer last year, and nothing shown since has changed my mind. As someone who doesn't live out of making reviews, it's the games job to sell me on it, not mine to buy it to see if maybe I'm pleasantly surprised (which personally has rarely happened so I find that mentality pretty worthless), time and money are limited after all. The way the game ends gives a pretty good hint at how a potential Bayonetta 4 could follow, that alongside the general design of 3, Platinums shaky track record as of recent and that we'll still likely see their ambitions for a game clash with Nintendo's mentality on hardware, and I just don't see much they could do that'd honestly catch my attention.

[@markcampbell8590]

Bayo 3 just feels completely off. Like I think the combat is solid and I don’t mind playing it on the switch. But Platinum needs some writers cause they really can’t tell a solid story.

[@PelvicGaming]

I too enjoy the combat but Bayo 3...sadly, didn't stick the landing in the story department. Again, Bayo isn't praised for it's story but imo up until this point, it had an enjoyable one.

[@markcampbell8590]

@@PelvicGaming yep and what makes it worse was that Bayo 3 was my most excited switch title this year. 😔

[@PelvicGaming]

I think.. it was 2-3rd for me? Ngl LiveALive got me HYPED haha I am a SUCKER for the hd-2D look bby!!

[@johtojonny]

2:55 ayyye das me!

[@endless2239]

a couple of bayotheorist be controlling the bayonarrative of the bayoverse....! bayo, bayo.

[@rodrigocampos1820]

I love the fact they this game is so different from the previous entries and couldn't be more excited for the future of the franchise

[@PelvicGaming]

I dunno if I'd say *excited* but I'm interested in seeing where this is going...

[@truhardcoregamer]

I'm a huge Bayonetta fan. I didn't have an issue with the story. I view Bayonetta, Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry storylines the same way. As they're very Japanese anime in style and storytelling and completely different from the western Hollywood style narratives you find in games like, The Last Of Us, Tomb Raider, God Of War, etc. I've seen plenty of over the top anime, that have similar distinct styles and stories. What I do find kind of strange, is that Bayonetta and Bayonetta 2 had the same criticism about their stories when they originally released, as far as people, saying the story didn't make any sense or they were bad. Now the feedback have shifted to the storylines being good. I find all of them entertaining and never looked at Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta or Devil May Cry and even No More Heroes storylines as some deep narrative experiences. But more like an entertaining anime. I will say this, and this is my personal opinion. I found Bayonetta 3 story more entertaining than Devil May Cry V story. Something about DMCV story seemed a bit boring to me. But the gameplay in Bayonetta 3 is phenomenal and that's what's most important.

[@Nola504Boi]

A lot of people don't like Viola. Don't want to see her carry the Bayonetta legacy. I agree with them. But at the same time, the whole story and ending being bad is hyperbole. It's no where near as worse as people are trying to make it and even more so, doesn't make the game bad as a whole. Those are strange statements. A game's gameplay, controls, play mechanics, fun factor, etc., determines how well a game is, not its story. Especially considering there are plenty games without a story or a minimum plot. I remember feeling the same way about Viola, as I felt about Nero in DMC4. I still feel that way. I don't like Nero. Even more so in DMCV, and hate the way he plays. But I love Dante. But I won't write the whole game off because of it. When it's still a great game. Everyone is entitled to their opinion though.

[@truhardcoregamer]

@@Nola504Boi In PelvicGaming defense. She seems to be more of a RPG gamer(noticeably JRPGs). Which are way more story driven and have far deeper narratives, than a character action game. So her preference and views, would be completely different from someone who's a diehard fan of character action games, like Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta, etc. It's like asking a diehard fan of First Person Shooters to review a JRPG. Their views on it would be totally different from a JRPG fan.

[@PelvicGaming]

So fun fact, I just skimmed both of my Bayo 1 and 2 reviews, to see what I said about the story out of curiosity, and while I didn't give much detail I found Bayo 1's stone kinda confusing unless you really did some digging so similar to this one. But twos story I was here for because of how it wrapped up 1's story in a certain regard. So I admit it's totally possible I'm now fondly remembering them because Bayo 3's story felt so... messy. Nola// I really didn't care for Viola. It's true. But I do think how we got to the ending is more trash than the ending itself. I could believe X and X got together easy if they either A. Kept that energy throughout all the Bayo games. Or B. Fleshed out their relationship more. Because it felt so. left. field. It didn't feel earned or rewarding just...okay. Also I agree that this game isn't bad as a whole, I but I do believe it's the worst Bayonetta. Both of you, thanks for watching!! :D

[@truhardcoregamer]

@@PelvicGaming You have great content and I wasn't directing my comment to you, just speaking in general. As someone who's a diehard fan of these games, I've always known the stories to be serviceable and entertaining more than anything. They're very anime. Whether it's Ninja Gaiden, DMC, Bayonetta, No More Heroes, Astral Chain, Metal Gear Rising, etc. They're all over the top and have a distinct type of story telling. These games are not known for deep narrative story telling. Bayonetta story have always been like that. Bayonetta 3 actually has more story telling than the previous Bayonetta games, as it has more dialogue and cutscenes. But that doesn't make it better though. At the end of the day, it's all subjective. But Bayonetta, DMC, and other character action games never had this deep in depth style of stories. I do agree the whole Bayonetta and Luka romance seemed out of place and rushed all of a sudden. But it makes more sense than this delusional Jeanne romance, I been seeing people complain about. As Bayonetta has flirted with Luka and there has been some very seductive teasing scenes with those two in the previous games. Not once in the previous games, did they even hint at Bayonetta and Jeanne in some form of romance. More like childhood friends sisterly love.

[@Nola504Boi]

I don't care too much for Viola either. I think she's ok and I like her more than Nero. But not a fan of her character design. I don't think Bayonetta 3 is the worst Bayonetta. As they all have their strengths and weaknesses from each other. Now I do think that Bayonetta 1 and 2 are more polished than Bayonetta 3. A lot of that has to do with the developers making and designing the game too ambitious for the Switch's hardware and its noticeable. I kind of wish Nintendo would have waited and released it on the Switch's successor. Bayonetta 2 is my favorite of the trilogy. But Bayonetta 1 and 3 have better combat( they require the most skill). Bayonetta 1 have the best difficulty. As Bayo 2&3 are too easy. Their hard mode, is basically Bayo 1 normal mode. Bayonetta 3 have the best combat design. Bayonetta 2 have the best pacing, cleanest visuals, best bosses (although Bayo 1 have the best final boss), best music, and overall better package. Even though it has the shortest length in the trilogy. Best thing about the Bayonetta series is all 3 games are high quality and critically acclaimed. Can't say the same for other games in the same genre.

[@TheKingYozora]

Can’t lie. This game looks dope as hell! Held back by Nintendo Switch Hardware! 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@MrEMBT]

"Held back by Nintendo Switch Hardware! " XD XD XD but moved forward by Nintendo´s money ...

[@Chelaxim]

@@MrEMBT yeah haven't they learned from Bayonetta to formally being the Wii U exclusive? Nintendo is the only reason this series even still exists.

[@TheKingYozora]

Doesn’t matter if they funded it or not. The game still looks like shit and is still being held back by Nintendo Switch Hardware ya big goof! Lol

[@NuiYabuko]

@@TheKingYozora It very much matters. Without Nintendo's money and Nintendo console exclusivity there wouldn't even be any games to be "held back on the Switch". I let you in on a secret, all hardware holds games back.

[@ZappBranniglenn]

I wouldn't mind so much if there were a PC port in the future, but Bayo 2 is living proof that Nintendo would never allow it. It's a shame because Platinum would prefer to be known for a game like this than Babylon's Fall, and Sega would have no issues with making more money either.

[@adamahmed8693]

I did all the ass kicking first then I went back to do all the collectibles and challenges

[@PelvicGaming]

I feel like that's how I should have done it, because the exploration was not the vibe for me. But I wanted to have a little of everything as I went.

[@adamahmed8693]

@@PelvicGaming ye i mean the gameplay is fun but this game definitely felt alot different

[@budgiecat9039]

Do a review for Kamen Rider Memories of Heroez for Switch

[@jemandjemand2362]

the homonuli thing was so BS. the angels got kicked out without any explanation

[@zairejordan4410]

I feel like Moonlight serenade, Gh()st, the trains theme were the best

[@koxame]

The stories from previous games were bad , but this one was so bad i couldnt even finish it. This game just didnt click with me. Bayo 2 forever !

[@PelvicGaming]

You get me! But I completed this one!

[@endless2239]

the bayoxluka thing didn't need extra chapters, they just had to commit to it from the beginning, like *this Cereza is with Luka and that's it* , heck if they knew they would do an "origin" story, they could use that for the explanation after, if anything. instead they decided to go for a *last-minute hookup* , the worst and laziest way to canonize a ship, and people got rightfully angry. I don't even like the ship, yet felt bad for the ones that do, literally getting crumbs like that. Can you imagine a Cereza acting like Morticia Adams with Luka? that be hilarious, in a game full of dumb references, they decide to cheap out instead. Edit: oh and of course, they had to have the "spiderverse" cameo at the end, where we see Cereza 1 and 2 as different persons, yet didn't commit to anything else.

[@PelvicGaming]

That is *another* option, true. But if this is an "different" Bayonetta from a different multiverse I think it needed more chapters. Bayo 1 kinda nudged for LucxBayo, Bayo 2 leaned toward BayoxJeanne so I could see it going either way but assuming this Bayo is 'Cereza' I'd need more chapters. But yes it felt like a last minute hook up I agree.

[@paulwarren29]

back in the day it was really hard to take video games from 2d into 3d like Mario 64 did. now it's hard to take some games that were incredibly linear into the modern era like BotW or Mario Odyssey did.

[@paulwarren29]

God of War used to be linear levels similar to Bayonetta and they reinvented it into this whole style of super-graphics 3rd person adventure like every other playstation exclusive thing. can't really do that with Bayonetta (or with No More Heroes that was cool at the time but just isn't going to turn heads today.)

[@snowzombie86]

Indeed...well said. 🤟🏾🤔

[@thedevilscallx159]

It was due to be WAYYYY bigger and an open world game and was supposed to flesh out characters and enemies but as we know production was Rocky and sadly because Nintendo hates sharing (they would have a lot more room to improve if it was on ps5 or PC) they had to limit what bayonetta could do because the way it is now already nearly kills the switch and an open world with multiple universes and demons.......

[@arslanmalik151]

At least devil may cry can give fan service but an amazing stroy . This stroy in part 3 is like a plot in porno movie

[@maverick9357]

I think its sad most complaints are about Jeanne and bayonetta not being together lmao because her creator never said what her sexuality was, no matter who bayonetta is with or even if shes alone the story will still be bad, everyone stated she didnt flirt with luka but i literally played through the trilogy this week and are you guys sure there weren't any flirting with them? Because i saw alot of them lmao and i think its weird asf so many people are onyl worried and only cares about her sexuality lmao those that say shes a lesbian and those that are saying shes straight. Its weird asf

[@boshwa20]

This is the third game and we're already talking about passing the torch???????

[@LeCoffreDuGeek]

hmm... I just loved this game. The story is not the best part but the challenge it offers kept me glued on my seat.

[@PelvicGaming]

That's fair! The challenges are CHALLENGING, I gave up mid way. xP

[@LeCoffreDuGeek]

@@PelvicGaming I can understand that. I still prefer the second Bayonetta. Can't tell why. Something about not waiting for it that long and having what I planned to receive from the second game :)

[@KevTheGalaxybender]

Love your content. Even got my ex girlfriend to sub to your channel. You guys also have a similar style. She currently creates music btw. However I have to skip your review for now due spoilers. 🙃 I'll catch your review after. I'm sure it's great. You review Rogue Galaxy so your taste is spot on. Thumbs up 👍

[@TheOnlyMeChanneI]

Bayonetta 1 supremacy

[@SapphicSara]

For me the main thing I play games for is story, and Bayonetta 2 was my favorite game, like of all time, consistently in my top 5, very often number 1. The whole everything of the plot I hated, like start to finish I wasn't a fan of the plot or the villains or a lot of the choices for characters. Then there is the ending, I think it might be my least favorite ending of all media not just video games. Like it's just a terrible way to top off a game that is fine. I was so excited for this game, for years I was so hype for this and it really sucks that to me this game sucks.

[@ChrisLT]

2's still the best one, but I liked 3 a whole lot. Replayed 1 this year and it's kinda clunky these days. I like the ambition of this series a whole lot, but seems like 2 had the best balance between crazy shit and fun gameplay within its technical constraints. Looking forward to replaying 3 again, skipping the cutscenes (which I mostly liked) and focusing on the pure gameplay. I keep hearing the Jeanne critique but I dunno, she has 4 levels and only the 1st one is a stealth section (and it only lasts 5 minutes). *shrugs* Anyway, the world is a better place with Bayonetta in it.

[@PelvicGaming]

It was only four levels, they're short too, that's true, but they were four EXCRUCIATING LEVELS. I did not vibe with the gameplay at all and just wanted it to end.

[@ChrisLT]

@@PelvicGaming Yep, I agree with you there. They're all a little bit different but they feel so stilted. Anyway, great video!

[@endless2239]

I would have been fine with having those levels as rewards from the tears of blood instead, that way is clear they are different segments, like extra game features look for, finish all levels and you unlock the origin demo. but they decided to put them in the middle of the main story instead, and also split Bayonetta's gameplay with Viola's.

[@TuxedAaron]

Well, personally, as a Bayonetta fan who wants the same things you do, I would say your review is pretty accurate. Speaking for myself, I have to say that there was a nagging sense of familiarity here, in that I felt the same way playing this game that I did playing the "Burial At Sea" DLC of Bioshock Infinite. I mean, the gameplay is an absolute blast and I had a lot of fun when I was immersed in that (I would daresay that I enjoyed the exploration and side missions more than you did). But it's all in the service of not much, when you consider the fact that the game's story just turns out to be a complete dumpster fire. Yes, I think everyone who's played the game at this point can pretty much agree, Bayonetta 3's story is, bar none, THE WORST story in the entire series. I mean seriously, it's not even a debate. As I see it, there are two main reasons for that. And one of those reasons...unfortunately...IS Viola. Now, to be fair, Viola isn't carrying ALL (or even MOST) of the story's bad baggage, but she IS saddled with a sizeable chunk of it, all the same. And I say it's unfortunate because right from the get-go, it was obvious what they wanted her to be. Quite simply, the whole point of Viola was for her to be a playable analogue for LUKA...someone to be in that "bumbling sidekick" role, for whom every situation she finds herself in turns into a complete cluster-fuck...but in Viola's case, someone who can actually HANDLE themselves in a fight (sort of). And taking her character strictly on THOSE terms, it's easy to appreciate what they were going for and you can see the germ of a good idea here, peeking through the cracks. The only problem is, it's the exact same reason why every story point that revolves around her just DOESN'T WORK. I won't spoil anything for anyone who hasn't played the game yet and is still curious to check it out, but Viola's presence is basically the whole reason why Platinum had to shoehorn Luka into a C-plot midway through the story, because I guess too many wheels were turning before one of the Devs thought to mention, "Well okay, but if we're going to make this NEW girl the exposition dump/comic relief...how are we gonna write in LUKA now? Because that was HIS job for the first two games". So they had to slap together something for HIM to do, and obviously, it was an idea that they never fully cracked and clearly just gave up on toward the end. So that whole thing doesn't play. It's also the reason why the overall ending doesn't work (again, no spoilers), because again, the whole point was to make Viola the bumbling sidekick and she never grows out of that. So even if you accept what Platinum was going for with the ending (and seriously, who DOES?) why would anyone buy into this as even a PLAUSIBLE conclusion, let alone a satisfying one? All annoying grievances to be sure. But those all pale in comparison to the one element that TRULY breaks the game's story...and that's basically the entire Multiverse, itself. In your review, you lamented it as a missed opportunity to push boundaries on a grande scale, but I saw it as something even lower than that. Because the whole function of the Multiverse in this application is simply to be used as a whitewash for Platinum to try and cover up every lazy-ass writing decision that could possibly be crammed into one game. All the elements of the plot that make absolutely NO sense? "MULTIVERSE!" All the parts of the story that they don't even bother to explain? "MULTIVERSE!" Which isn't to say that they don't explain ANYTHING. They just don't bother to explain it IN-GAME, which ties into your (accurate) criticism of how the game does more telling than showing. At least in Bayo 1 and 2, you at least got to hear what the bad guys wanted ("Hi, this is who I am and this is why I done what I did"). In this game, you actually have to read the Character Bios in the menu to find out that Singularity was an accidentally-created Artificial Human (basically an AI) who wants to erase all chaotic elements from existence, because his whole goal is to make the universe mathematically perfect (which isn't a spoiler for me to mention, because like this review says, the game never even brings it up). You even have to read the Character Bios to find out just what the hell is going on with Luka (even though it's not MUCH of an explanation, because like I said, it was an idea they never fully cracked). But yeah, apparently, none of this was even worth going to the effort of explaining in the actual game, proper. They just give you a bunch of text as an info dump. Like I said...LAZY. Hell, there are even subtle hints that the game's final scene might not actually be the characters we've been playing as all game, but possibly versions from another alternate universe that Singularity hadn't even attacked yet. So Platinum may not be all that committed to the ending they've crafted here. And that's another issue with the whole "Multiverse" angle. Because Platinum can just lean on the word "MULTIVERSE!" as a crutch to basically retcon anything they want at this point, nothing that happens in the game actually MATTERS. So what kind of a future can the franchise have, going forward? At least, that's just MY thinking on it.

[@TuxedAaron]

@@marcel-pb2ul Well, ignoring the fact that I'm not entirely sure what point you're trying to make (hopefully, you'll elaborate if you reply), I would point out that, sure, it's easy to say that NOW, after Platinum has retconned everything. Although actually, if you go back over Bayo 1, the intro actually tracks with what happened in the main game. Basically, there are two interpretations for why Balder brought Cereza from the past to interact with herself as Bayonetta in the present, and at the time the game was released, neither of them having ANYTHING to do with a Multiverse outcome. The first interpretation was because the Eyes of the World can peer into time, so that's what Balder saw happen and he understood that interaction between past and present was essential for Bayonetta to remember what truly happened that night. And because she encountered her future self, it gave her the confidence to move forward and fight on after her mother was killed. So essentially, it was a predestination paradox. As such, the initial flashback of Jeanne sealing her away that night was just a distorted memory and the final flashback with her and Jeanne standing together to fight off the Lumen/Paradiso invasion was her TRUE memory coming to the surface at last. The other interpretation is that Jeanne truly DID seal Cereza that night and Balder had her younger self interact with Bayonetta in order to give her the confidence boost that allowed her change her own history. Personally, my heart wants to believe that the former is the true interpretation, but my head keeps telling me that it's most likely the latter. Either way, both roads ended up arriving at the same destination, which is that Cereza wasn't sealed that night, she and Jeanne escaped and she was sealed away at a later time. Hence, the intro we saw in Bayo 1.

[@colepryor8651]

I totally agree with this girl!! People say this is the best of the series!! Nope! Nothing is better then 2!

[@PelvicGaming]

Thank you for watching! :D

[@imarock.7662]

Except for 1 and 3. "Nothing is better than 2!" -Casual

[@colepryor8651]

@@imarock.7662 how is 3 better lol