1969: Is ROSEMARY BROWN Channelling the GREAT COMPOSERS? | Classic BBC Music | BBC Archive

[@JanJensen-br1je]

As a music student living in Europe in the early 70's, I made a point to seek out Rosemary Brown and attempt to meet her when I was visiting London. I was given her address by the office of the Bishop who had written a testimonial to her genuineness, etc. in a forward to a book about her. I did find her, but not in Balham, but in Wimbledon as of 1973. She was at home, opening the door in a bathrobe, with curlers in her hair, wearing black-rimmed glasses. After explaining who I was and my interest in her work, she shut the door quickly (I can't blame her, considering I had caught her off-guard) and said to me to write her and that she might see me at some other time. I wrote her several post cards requesting an audience with her but alas! She did not call or write me back the time I had left in London. I recall looking up her stairs, half expecting to see the specter of Liszt on the landing. Lovely music regardless, whether dictated by the composers or coming from somewhere deep inside her. I remember a quote from her from a book either written by her or a short bio of her that Liszt had told her "modern music was vaguely interesting but infinitely grotesque!

[@organboi]

The fact she never wrote you or called is suspect. Maybe she realized she was a fraud, or realized she was channeled by bad composers pranking her.

[@moiome]

@@organboi Not suspect at all. She agreed to meet and have her music analysed by several professional musicians and to be interviewed by the BBC. Why should she get back to a student who decided to knock on her door unannounced?

[@connoroleary591]

@@JanJensen-br1je You should have arrived in a shroud, shook her hand with great solemnity and introduced yourself as Beethoven.

[@gaiusflaminius4861]

Many explanations can be given, one of them is she was tired of importunate attention making sort of a zoo attraction of her. Then, of course, it could be diffidence that you saw her dishevelled.

[@hilaryepstein6013]

An extraordinary story. I agree with Richard Rodney Bennett and keeping an open mind. Whatever the reality I thought the "Schubert" piece was lovely and even if she wrote it herself and all the others she deserves recognition.

[@paulhenryangus5638]

I was delighted to find this in my feed this morning. I saw the BBC transmission when I was 16 and often referred to it in teaching at the Conservatorio. All musical scores are the enciphered spirit of the composer which the performer deciphers. Rosemary Brown took that principle one stage further. Thank heavens the world has moved on since 1969 to embrace psychic mediumship, channeling and musical dictation as genuine manifestations of human potential. Nothing to be afraid of. Mrs Brown, through trial and tribulation, developed sensitivity and learned to listen. I thank Spirit for her gift. ❤

[@MbartM96]

Whatever people may say this woman was observed by professionals and they found her compositions demonstrated a knowledge which it is unlikely she would've had without rigorous training, while this lady worked full time. Whether she was imagining it or not, you can't call her a sensationalist.

[@mckernan603]

Some have a knock for improvising in a composer’s style, like Noam Sivan, it’s a type of savant who can see the music at a the highest level of abstraction. Unfortunately I also can see “style errors” that reveal her as an amateur, listen to her Liszt which is nonsense

[@markdoran3114]

Well maybe its too dark where Lizt is now ? Just kidding ...

[@gaiusflaminius4861]

@@mckernan603 What about Schubert and Beethoven? Actually, she hadn't played a lot of Liszt to assess the quality in either direction, neither had the pianists who were asked to play this music.

[@abestm8]

I was 16 when I first watched this on the Telly. It amazed me then as I was playing the trumpet and reading music for a couple of years. It still amazes me now at 71. I felt she had to be legit as I'm sure any musician would be impressed by her. Bet she is with them now Bless.Her.

[@cm-rl4he]

It’s possible to do the same thing if you have 1. a friend which is a well trained musician or a composer who can create music in a historical manner (it’s often called Period composition) 2. ability to memorize a great amount of stuff (like Hyperthymesia) 3. basic music skills to write down what you’ve remembered. I personally find this story very interesting (I read her book “Musik aus dem Jenseits” and listened to her recordings) but for me honestly, it’s really hard to believe.

[@1951oceano]

Não é esse o caso. Ms. Brown é autêntica

[@markusberzborn6346]

This does not apply in the case of Mrs. Brown.

[@ValseMelancolique]

Read and study Edgar Cayce, Nostradamus, and the life of Jesus - Then you might have an Enlightened mind to accept change from above.

[@BlindeEzel]

@@ValseMelancolique I just wanted to say the same !

[@leandrusi4533]

​@@markusberzborn6346it applies 100%. The manuscripts are amazing, but there are several ways they can be logically explained without paranormal elements.

[@connoroleary591]

She seems like an honest and pleasant lady. Beethoven, Chopin and Schubert liked her, so do I. She'd be very wealthy if she were alive today, channelling the work of John Lennon, David Bowie and Nick Drake.

[@MarcOlivermusic]

Oh, I simply think it is how she says. Death is not the end, channeling souls that once lived on earth is not new, thousands of books were written in that way. This life is just a small fragment of the great puzzle. So to have an open mind is an advantage.

[@baronmeduse]

Death is very likely the end. There's hope and then there's gullibility.

[@davidcallahan2832]

For me the most substantial challenge to the authenticity of these pieces as works dictated by the greatest composers of western music was an objection I remember being raised when the Rosemary Brown phenomenon became public decades ago. Why on earth would they go to the trouble of returning to write works that would at best be considered mediocre in their stellar oeuvres? Why come back to compose relatively undistinguished music after they had attained the summit of genius in their lifetimes? Brown herself, I recall, once attempted to answer a version of this question. She said that she asked one of her visitors - I cannot recollect whether it was J.S. Bach or someone else - whether his offering was perhaps too slight and would not impress anyone. She reported that he said it would be enough. Personally, I think the most credible explanation for these works, based upon their merits, is that they are pastiches originating from the psyche of Brown, which of itself is a manifestation of remarkable ingenuity. Nevertheless, I too would expect better from exalted figures who have had centuries in the Hereafter to build on the best of what they created in mortality.

[@Digibeatle09]

Could this woman - as sincere and earnest as she comes over in this video - have been suffering from “Delusions of Grandeur” - a condition recognised in psychiatry ?

[@connoroleary591]

​@@Digibeatle09she seems in this video at least, to be very humble and honest. If I sincerely thought Beethoven chose me to channel new music, I'd start to struggle with sanity.

[@thepianocornertpc]

iNDEED.."Pastiches"..you are 100 % right.

[@hartmutlindemann9735]

The piano work by Schubert played on this video, had too much in common with Mendelssohn'a songs without words, and even a moment of Liszt in it, to sound genuine. But Mrs. Brown impresses me much more with her output than a psychic figure named Floritzel von Reuther, who claimed to be in contact with Paganini.

[@JohnBorstlap]

@@thepianocornertpc 'Grübelei' is not pastiche at all, because there does not exist a piece like that, even if the style is reminiscent of Liszt's late style - it is much more developed than that. But so much of the peices are mediocre at best and very weak at worst. But again, this may be due to the difficulty of transmission. Imagine having to dictate, line by line, to someone with a restricted musical literacy something like Beethoven's sonata opus 109.

[@ericotbomfim]

I've been researching Rosemary Brown's music for 10 years now. Despite any flaws, it has remarkable features. We have recently published a paper in Music Analysis about a piece attributed to Liszt which creates a "new scale" that has so much to do with the Hungarian/Romani scales that Liszt used in his lifetime. Regardless of the spiritualist controversy, I'm convinced we have much to learn with her music!

[@melchestermodelrailway]

Ive read her book "unfinished symphonies " and have some of her published music. A very interesting case.

[@Repetitivebeat19]

Absolutely fascinating stuff.

[@monsieurgrigny]

Been waiting for this docu...

[@omniphoriusvcf907]

Many artists feel like they are channeling when they create. It doesn't necessarily mean that they are channeling the spirits of dead people. It can simply be the flow of creativity that happens when your ego gets out of the way and you allow the music/art/dance lead the way. Hard to explain unless you've felt it, but athletes will describe a similar phenomenon: they stop thinking and simply do.

[@mmedeuxchevaux]

Her ability to channel painstainingly note by note is different than artists who claim to channel when they paint. And the woman did not have the musical training to write/compose music with such complexity. She's s an acquired savant, at the very least.

[@omniphoriusvcf907]

@@mmedeuxchevaux I'm just saying that there are many forms of channeling, and it doesn't have to be dead people working through you for it to feel like it's not you doing the work. Also, she's definitely had training. I've taught music theory, composition and piano for decades. Just the way she moves at the piano is consistent with someone who's been trained for years. And you have to have training to notate music correctly, you can't just randomly understand musical notation. That's my take as a music professional.

[@mmedeuxchevaux]

@@omniphoriusvcf907 from what i understand, she learned some piano in high school and played basic church tunes. she had no more extensive training - certainly not to the extent that she was able to compose such complex pieces, no?

[@omniphoriusvcf907]

@@mmedeuxchevaux It may be as you suggested that she is a savant of some sort. She definitely had a very fine ear. But some of those passages are definitely "recycled." The Chopin example she wrote is very similar to his famous Nocturne in E flat, with some hints of one of his A flat waltzes thrown in. And those are common pieces learned by intermediate pianists. With a fine ear one can imitate the more famous composers fairly easily. I think with her skill set (she seems to have a very developed sense of perfect pitch) and conservatory training she would have been able to write whole orchestral movements in the style of Beethoven, not just short piano pieces. I recently had a 16 year old student who regularly wrote orchestral pieces. So I think in perspective, given what humans are capable of, it's not that great of a feat to write short pieces that sound like famous composers. The thing is that classical musicians don't compose as much as they used to, so composition has developed this mystical quality. But most musicians composed in earlier times, anytime before the 20th century composing was very common among professional musicians.

[@nonenoneonenonenone]

Only she is NOT an artist by any means, that's what is so remarkable.

[@bradpaul8576]

What a peculiar story. I had heard of this years ago, and recently I heard her voice sampled on a song by Australian group, Avalanches. Very well spoken.

[@coastrider9673]

Universal energy is eternal, and therefore timeless.

[@e.h.5849]

Looked into it a little and found out there are variable accounts of her past, and seems this opening info in this documentary is not entirely true. Rosemary not only had some classes of piano in her childhood, but also was brought up in the musical family, her mother was a pianist and she grew up with a piano in their house. In mid 1940s (can't recall specific years) she had been getting even more classical music lessons for three years. - Nevertheless, her case is very interesting and her musical talent undoubtable. There are all kinds of ''non-analogous'' ways of communion with realms involved in musical genius and recipients don't necessarilly need to be aware of the exact process or what is happeninig to them, this case may be geniune, for example influenced by gandharvas or other entities. I myself with my soulmate have heard a brief otherworldly chant of these celestial beings one early morning and it was something unlike anything else I've ever heard from Earthly music or singers. In the first moment I thought it came from my subconscious, but she confirmed having heard it as well!! It came out of nowhere, in the moments of deep harmonious abiding, almost, but not asleep yet, talking about spiritual topics. We both were very much sychronised on some level. and we heard it both. It was 22 years ago cca 2am. It was bizarre, yet enchantingly beautiful! I know for a fact these realms exist and often interfere with the planes humans interact with.

[@organboi]

Figures.

[@graziacavasino8884]

Enchanting experience!

[@joealexandra7185]

Postwar Britain was so grim. Their middleclass housing would be considered a slum, in America. But they took it in stride, which is admirable.

[@baronmeduse]

She might have been renting that. Also even the slums are more substantial than the wooden huts in the U.S.

[@LookToWindward]

She was a music-generation AI decades before the fact! 😁

[@jeffrey3895]

The derogatory comments only tell us something about the character of those making the comments. They add nothing of relevance to Mrs Brown's story. A lovely lady who had an extraordinary gift. The music she gave us is beautiful.

[@organboi]

I don't doubt her being visited by people from another dimension, but it certainly wasn't the great composers. Don't you people have an ear?

[@Michelle6998832]

​@@organboiHow arrogant and petty. What do you mean by "you people"? Are there any other "kind" of people? Pathetic, to say the Lizt!

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

Her story is dead people speak to her. Why should anyone care about a obvious schizophrenic liar?

[@bigzach1000]

An interesting observation about Ms. Brown is that she was fully comfortable with sharing her communication techniques as the experiences were occurring. She had nothing to hide. She was composing the music with the cameras rolling and she was not nervous or dodgy in the slightest.

[@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311]

Well I'm not sure about that... She struggled utterly with the question about what Liszt was wearing especially she had just a few seconds previously claimed to be able to see him as "clearly as I see you" ... Had that really been true, why would she have stuttered a bit and then come out with something as vague as "err, well, you know, modern clothes...." and then failed to elaborate any further whatever. Surely ... I mean SURELY...if someone is stood two feet from you, you could IMMEDIATELY say, "light grey herringbone suit, black lace-up half brogue Oxford shoes, pale blue Egyptian cotton shirt with separate starched white spread collar and salmon pink knitted silk tie with a silver tie pin, white silk kerchief, narrow banded platinum ring set with a modest cushion cut sapphire on the little finger of the right hand, steel rimmed round spectacles and an ivory and silver cigarette holder" Sorry, but I rest my case...... She was probably mentally ill and perhaps didn't intend to defraud anyone but I suspect it all started for a bit of attention and then got out of hand. What I can be certain of though is that she imagined the entire thing. Don't be so gullible, the whole thing is ludicrous.....

[@bigzach1000]

@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 You base this simply on the fact that she had a minor difficulty in describing his clothes? I am not suggesting she spoke to spirits. I am saying she was transparent in her methods.

[@nonenoneonenonenone]

If only she'd been contacted by Ravel...

[@peterirons9773]

Surely it doesnt matter very much what Liszt is wearing

[@JohnBorstlap]

@@peterirons9773 Also, if the story is true, when you are a ghost, your appearance is not so steadfast as in our own reality.

[@wordscapes5690]

These eccentrics were once appreciated for what they are. Nowadays we write them off as insane.

[@TheSolsonia2003]

Amazing Grace … Beautiful… Thank God for the Gift of Eternity ✨🎼✨🎶✨🎵✨🙏

[@grinsko6741]

When asked to assess Mrs. Brown’s level of expertise, one musical expert replied, “Medium”.

[@charvakaelysium2414]

😂😂😂😂

[@JanJensen-br1je]

😂

[@Ian-vj5pv]

Expert who? Hardly anyone knows that expert...

[@kpunkt.klaviermusik]

3:30 "I do have to be careful, because some of the notes sound so much alike: B, C, D, E and G" *rofl*

[@StuMas]

I think she's talking about the alphabetical letters and not the musical notes.

[@kpunkt.klaviermusik]

@StuMas Ah, interesting idea! Yes this would make more sense.

[@therealyogibear2k225]

I am glad she's different to that bloody awful other Mrs Brown (played by Brendan O'Carroll,) and her boys. This 1969 one sounds really sweet.

[@davehendry8056]

I can't stand him

[@johnferguson4089]

@@davehendry8056 - Neither can I!

[@musicurio]

So many stupid comments from people who know little about music! Maybe that's entertainment now-a-days. At worst, she was a very tallented composer, and if she was really able to write large amounts in this manner without direct reference to a piano, and in some very difficult keys, she must have been a marvel who deserved far more recognition. It is almost impossible to explain how one can be moved to write and play in a way that causes you to do things that you would not have thought of, in the ordinary way. (Like when I play for silent films, on occasions) Some people call it a "muse" others just "inspiration". I have no idea if her claims were genuine, but if they were, where would that lead humanity? Survival of death would be an established fact. I don't think such knowledge is ever possible - maybe her muses thought so too, and gave only enough to strongly suggest, but not prove.....

[@kassiba]

Concert pianist Dennis Matthew makes me think of Salieri reeling with envy of Mozart's genius!

[@twraven1]

There was a record of her compositions as she received them from the composers. I had that recording at one time. As a musician friend of mine said, those composers must have said all they had to say before they died. I agree. Ridiculousness.

[@FishingtonBurpPuzzle]

So jealous she couls see Liszt but I also feel him around when I worked hard on his pieces.

[@richardque4952]

Should make into a movie

[@organboi]

Please God no.

[@agustinresendiz5745]

@@organboiwhy not?

[@joebiz4824]

I can't believe more wasn't done to engage her further. It appears from the testimonies that her claims are valid. And when she said she had Liszt standing right there beside her why was there not an effort to get answers from him about the afterlife or the dimension he exists in. Perhaps to question the meaning of life. How can the interviewer not be more curious about this aspect?

[@drajanacz.1376]

She actually asked Liszt these questions and he did reply! She wrote it all Down into her book "Unfinished symphonies". And it's really interesting and Liszt is just as wholesome as he was in his life.

[@willrobinson1229]

The "Schubert" is a pastiche of 19th romantic parlor music. The harmonic progression is not logical, however, and the melody is too meandering to be Schubertian. It is fascinating how she is capable of writing via dictation something so pleasant and evocative.

[@donrayjay]

The work is apparently too good for the woman to have composed but not good enough for the alleged composers 🤔

[@kpunkt.klaviermusik]

Best comment on this page! :D

[@Dave-kj4vr]

I'd like to hear more about Chopin's fingering technique she learnt from Liszt

[@JohnBorstlap]

Obviously Mrs Brown is NOT composing the music herself, because a composer does not work 'note for note' as if dictated, in the way she is seen writing. If she were composing herself, she would make different sketches, change things, etc. etc. - and work on the piano. Writing down note for note on a table is not the normal way of composing.

[@ktheodor3968]

Acute observation. Thanks for sharing, and of course you are right.

[@Pablo-gl9dj]

Mendelssohn composed in a similar way as did Czerny sometimes.

[@ktheodor3968]

@Pablo-gl9dj Except, no one's said that Mrs Brown's background musical literacy, sophistication and depth were those of Mendelssohn and Czerny's. They looked extensively at the woman's background musical studies. Her musical education was moderate, nothing like what Mendelssohn, Czerny had had.

[@JohnBorstlap]

@@Pablo-gl9dj These were highly-trained, highly-gifted musicians / composers with a high level of professionality and experience. Not to be compared with Mrs Brown. JS Bach wrote his pieces on a desk and not at a keyboard. But surely he did not write one voice at the time, then the other etc., but jumping from voice to voice so that the total texture would emerge complete while writing.

[@leandrusi4533]

Great point, but actually applied to the composers themselves. Its is fairly documented that Beethoven used to make several sketches, change things and work quite a bit on his pieces. How come he now just dictates note by note his work? Do they have pianos in the afterlife?

[@bernhardnizynski4403]

Amazing!

[@andrewjordan4193]

I am 64 now and I remember reading her book when I was a teenager and being impressed. As a grown up I realise it is all nonsense on stilts: of course. I've no doubt she really believed it all; but we know just how people can deceive themselves and how credulous most people are: that is what religions thrive on. Now, if she had ever come up with something like Beethoven's Appassionata then I might have considered her a genius: but nothing remotely like that was ever forthcoming, though these composers had all their lifetimes' experience and all the time in the "World": apparently....

[@nonenoneonenonenone]

No, that is nonsense. No one can suddenly do this out of nowhere, not even with Asperger's Syndrome.

[@mmedeuxchevaux]

I think the fact that she made mistakes in harmony and dictation is more evidence that she was channelling. If she were a well trained musician herself she would not have made these errors.

[@Ian-vj5pv]

Extraordinary and baffling!

[@shingitai5882]

Balham gateway to the south (Peter Sellers) 😂🤣

[@thetiredtomcat]

Bal-HAM. Absolute genius that man. And is there honey still for tea?

[@DavidBoycePiano]

@@thetiredtomcat Honey's off, Dear.

[@Tyrell_Corp2019]

In the distant past, I would have scoffed at such a story and found a "rational" explanation. However, a few years ago I encountered a boy of 12 who was a gifted psychic/medium. He could literally tell you, what you just wrote on a piece of paper. He could even give you very specific messages from those who've passed. In fact, his abilities were discovered when he was around 5, after announcing to his parents: a "message from Andy". It was for Andy's widow, their friend. And it relayed information about an insurance paper in her attic. Of course they told her. And because of that, she came into money. Life is not what we think. I believe this story. The music is indeed convincing.

[@Slate-writer]

is there anything online about this boy's abilities?

[@Tyrell_Corp2019]

@@Slate-writer I believe there was something put here on YT. But it was a bit odd as he got latched onto by a few "local mediums" with some very bad video making skills. They were making claims that it was "Mother Mary". They were all about "Christianity" from a very common perspective. The video didn't put him in a good light to say the least. To my understanding, his parent's were then pursuing a legitimate documentary. (As per the boy's "request"). It's been a few years and I haven't spoken to them in a while about it. I don't know if they want that kind of recognition any more. But, I should inquire. 🤷‍♂

[@Ana_crusis]

Sounds like baloney

[@ValseMelancolique]

@@Ana_crusisRead and study Edgar Cayce, Nostradamus, and the life of Jesus - Then you might have an Enlightened mind to accept change from above.

[@mmedeuxchevaux]

Might you have any more information on this gifted child? I would be very interested in learning more!!

[@jansteinvonsquidmeirsteen2256]

This is amazing!!!!

[@TomekTomek333]

I wonder where can I find the score of this Schubert song "spring sorrow".

[@e.h.5849]

Why am I hearing about this amazing case just now.... This is really something.

[@ElisPalmer]

Fascinating! 🌟

[@bigred8438]

Quite astounding.

[@gwheregwhizz]

I believe it, but then again, I'm Brahms and Liszt.

[@1951oceano]

Sua opinião está fora do fato

[@growlerthe2nd712]

🍺

[@grinsko6741]

Genius! 😂

[@grinsko6741]

@@1951oceanoYou have to be familiar with Cockney Rhyming Slang to understand the joke: “Brahms and Liszt” means “pissed”, which is English slang for “drunk”. 😂

[@organboi]

But I am the real Liszt!

[@Enri45100]

She is probably telling the truth. Who are not telling the truth are the beings who claim they are famous composers and dictate music to her. For me, they are like actors playing a role. Somehow they know how their most emblematic and well-known music sounds and are able to recreate the same style. But the real composers were in constant evolution, they were not fixed in one style. Beethoven, for instance, before he died, was composing in a very different style from the Moonlight sonata 's. Why would he go back to a style that he was not interested in anymore?

[@grinsko6741]

The great composers are sadly all decomposing these days.

[@stephenturnbull6834]

© W. S. Gilbert 1880

[@keithphilbin3054]

Just been looking at the house on Harberson Rd on google earth !

[@melchestermodelrailway]

Me too!

[@newtronix]

After reading this I had a look myself!

[@peterirons9773]

It must be a bit irritating to those composers if people don't believe the works are inspired by them

[@hobhood7118]

It would be great if Derren Brown took a look at this and gave an opinion...

[@wesleywolhuter2592]

Everyone here is so arrogant . This Woman was a Composer ! period. I’d like to hear the “great” works of the most disparaging of the commenters. The Snobbery is so disgusting and so very pathetic and entirely the reason why we are in danger of Classical music/ Music in general “dying”!

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

When you make insane claims like dead people speak to you, no wonder no one takes her seriously, other than religious people it seems...

[@robflynn509]

@@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru why is it insane to state that? It's's not so much to do with religion but more to do with science.

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

@@robflynn509 Pseudoscience* corrected

[@user-ve3gh5xg9q]

Old 🇬🇧♥️

[@rafaelsierra3269]

Schubert writing a song in english????

[@DietervonBraun1973]

Maybe this is what the great composers sound like to the untrained ear. Writing a slightly Chopinesque melody is not a sign of a miracle.

[@craggyisland8770]

“Schubert” piece is more Chopin-ian if anything

[@wotaneye]

What would later Schubert be like?

[@craggyisland8770]

@ Schubert characteristics would be more lyrical major/minor shifts, left hand tremolos, suggesting inward facing, intoxicating sound worlds. That type of thing

[@marie-annecody83]

Would it be possible to contact a consciousness at a certain time in its development, from beyond the veil of death, for instance beethoven in his early years? That's what made one professional doubt that she was channeling them but do all of our stages of consciousness exist at once?

[@andydixon2980]

Maybe there is something in this, no matter how absurd it may seem. Paul McCartney has said on a few occasions that he feels almost like he is 'receiving' his music/songs on occasion. His most famous and successful song 'Yesterday', was written while he was sleeping. He wasn't even in a waking state to create that masterpiece.

[@PaulMann-u1d]

Difference is, he’s a genius. She was a total nutcase.

[@PedroMiguel-if3ll]

@@PaulMann-u1d McCartney a genius? You can't really compare pop songs with the work of great classical composers

[@grinsko6741]

Originally ‘Scrambled Eggs’.

[@peterpan8147]

Ah, those quaint English people! The world would be at a loss without them.

[@citizent6999]

As interesting as the story is, I would go so far as to say that Mrs. Brown's output is as interesting as any Clementi Sonatina - and we all know what a great master he was! My view is that she was two separate beings: she was a pastiche composer with a very neat hand, and a talented psychic - perhaps not both at the same time though. On the other hand these works may be tailor-made for Rosemary by an unrelated and unknown spirit, perhaps a sent to her by some great piano teacher of the past. They seem to be all of the same banal level so are possibly all meant for her own practice.

[@organboi]

Bravo. Finally an intelligent comment. She was not given music by the great composers. It was someone else. A sad, lonely ghost who hadn't crossed over yet.

[@samuelburleigh1895]

The music appears to speak for inself regardless.

[@shanekennedymusic]

Hi Reev

[@fstover5208]

I've known about Rosemary Brown for many years and always considered her to be a fake. If these composers were dictating to her in the afterlife, why would they be sending her their less evolved, less inspired work? I put her in the class of a moderately talented musician who by osmosis, picked up strains of this and that composer and put it all together. Her ego is disguised in her spiritualist activity.

[@VocalEdgeTV]

I love her. She’s so likable.

[@whiteonggoy7009]

Love old songs "Mrs brown you got a lively daughter"

[@nonenoneonenonenone]

Of course she is, to some extent, blending it with her own inspiration, were she an actual composer. There is one other example of this, when Narciso Yepes independently conceived music that other guitarists had been playing all along.

[@nonenoneonenonenone]

I love the idea that all the great composers are hanging out together in heaven. The music is somewhat simpler than what the composers would do with their own hands, but the process of channeling to someone untrained would whittle them down to essence.

[@nonenoneonenonenone]

"Pastiche" is the slanderous word used by skeptics and critics in Britain to attack what they cannot understand.

[@nonenoneonenonenone]

To be honest, I have had similar experiences to a much-smaller degree, even just osmosis through paper contact, but it is as real as another creative flow.

[@rodterrell304]

The dead don't communicate with the living.

[@JJONNYREPP]

1969: Is ROSEMARY BROWN Channelling the GREAT COMPOSERS? | Classic BBC Music | BBC Archive 0804AM 18.12.24 old rosey was a genius in her own right. as for channeling - a load of old pony... look at that damp!!! and they whinge about a bit of mold in the modern era of cleanliness and easy living.... i think Dudley Moore referenced her in one of his and cook's comedic discussions... after such guff of prodigious proportions i imagine old Beethoven and Schubert flushing the lav: flush it once... wait a bit... flush again and then catch it unawares - and the lav should work. after her and her husband got completely rat arsed at the lamb and flag she, nay they both, decided it would be best placed to suggest to the irate and easily disturbed that her innate genius was of some other source a la Blake. and i challenge the less than erudite chap who inferred such a stance served two purposes - to ward off the jealous & furious and to sate any laughter should the scores fail to please... there's nothing dubious about any of this other than your desire to denigrate something she needed to do ie: play the damn piano....

[@SkyWidows]

....what a read!!

[@JJONNYREPP]

@@SkyWidows Comments on ‘1969: Is ROSEMARY BROWN Channelling the GREAT COMPOSERS? | Classic BBC Music | BBC Archive’ 0827am 18.12.24 old beethoven in the bedroom shouting out dictation would be a tad disconcerting...

[@georgie5700]

Man, people stopped using that mumbojumbo like 80 yrs ago. Maybe you're being channelled, who knows

[@JJONNYREPP]

@@georgie5700Comments on ‘1969: Is ROSEMARY BROWN Channelling the GREAT COMPOSERS? | Classic BBC Music | BBC Archive’ 1020am 21.12.24 yeah right... they still use that mumbo jumbo even now. the paranormal world is 80 percent charlatan and savage fraud, 15 percent fair ground attraction - both parties know it's a bit of fun.. and 5 percent genuine article - ie: the mind being a terrible thing to taste and all that... this is a venn diagram i am describing and all aspects of these percentages overlap... form a more grounded perspective, if the scores are genuine, then it's pretty cool - that she has transcribed new pieces for piano without being overly schooled in the finer arts..... such is life and such are the miseries and ire of life, that she feels compelled to insist these works come from another sphere, another world, as opposed to being part and parcel of her own muse.

[@williamwade641]

There is always the possibility she may have been Brahms and Lizt.

[@myshco-m6g]

I'll be Bach

[@grinsko6741]

Thanks, Terminator! 😂

[@alejandrotermine1554]

😂😂. Es aceptable.

[@sharefail]

She wasn't merely a conduit for musical expression; she produced strikingly accurate artwork in various famous artists' styles, poetry, and even a purported new Einstein equation. There was much more to Rosemary than this documentary touches on. Just what I've gleaned from some basic online research. Pay no heed to the sceptics. They almost never even bother to extend humanity the simple courtesy of even making sense, doing research or making an original or insightful joke. For the little bit of your life you invest in reading their remarks you get no value. With Rosemary you get either genius or divine revelation.

[@georgie5700]

Hey it's my turn with Rosemary now!

[@hellohello-dp6wg]

Wowwww

[@benflint]

Oh Lord, living composers can't get their music heard already!!! We already have to compete w/ everything ever written in history - now the masters are putting out new music - Feh - they had their chance already.

[@anthonyaveray1324]

I’m gobsmacked

[@thehanker5347]

Reminds me of a certain thief and small time crook suppos’d to have written Hamlet and Kimg Lear…

[@Cornodebassetto]

She didn’t channel any women composers or perhaps this that died young like Samuel Coleridge Taylor or William Hurlestone? Why just the main body of well known composers?

[@1951oceano]

Isto é mediunidade. Autentica.

[@JJONNYREPP]

1969: Is ROSEMARY BROWN Channelling the GREAT COMPOSERS? | Classic BBC Music | BBC Archive 0814am 18.12.24 old Nietzschean scores found in packet of swan vestas, no doubt?

[@wardropper]

All fascinating and interesting - until an objective musical mind gets to grips with it… Wherever Beethoven might be in the spiritual world by now, I am certain he has better things to do than ‘channel’ immature bagatelles through a spirit medium. For people who do not dismiss the existence of a spiritual world, one needs to have in mind that not all the beings that inhabit that world are necessarily benevolent. Mischief exists everywhere. As I said, this case is interesting, but if you listen to the music objectively, it ultimately proves to be not in the least uplifting… Hardly a ‘gift’ from the beyond. Denis Matthews is well-grounded on this.

[@sleepyheadsleeps]

😮

[@StephenMerchant-up8sg]

Pity Monty Python didn't get hold of this. The sketch that wrote itself!

[@PhilUKNet]

At first, I was sure it was Eric Idle or Michael Palin.

[@RolandoRatas]

@@PhilUKNet LOL

[@grahamc8840]

Eric Idle did indeed write a whole sketch on this for his radio show ‘Radio Five’ in the 1970s - available online if you search for it.

[@rosiefay7283]

@@PhilUKNet Nah, nothing like.

[@simongregory3114]

I thought this was going to be a monty python skit for the first few minutes...

[@Johannes_Brahms65]

It’s probably to do with savant syndrome.

[@feraudyh]

Aristotle and Plato speak to me , b 5:47 but since I don't understand ancient Greek it's all gibberish to me.

[@MrMarcvus]

At the very least she was talented!

[@thomasg321]

Some people will believe anything.

[@eurekaelephant2714]

I know she is right. Because this happens to me too, except I dont get dictation - they play through my hands. I am an honest person and Im telling you the truth. Im a medium as well.

[@alejandrotermine1554]

19:13 muy Chopiniano

[@StuMas]

What..?

[@robford3211]

It would be good if she was visited by John Cage : Oh yeah he was still alive

[@tcparker1000]

Uh huh ...

[@organboi]

These so called music excerpts dont know what makes the masters great. Absolute pretentious charlatans.

[@organboi]

That "Schubert song" is awful. She was visited by a single fake bad composer masquerading as the Masters.

[@organboi]

The pieces sound like AI. Totally not the real thing. She was visited by a nasty musician ghost who can write in the style of the composers. The ghost of Salieri or Spohr.

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

🤣

[@carl44acq]

How the BBC fell for this charlatan I'll never know.

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

BBC will cover any shite for money

[@TheOneAndOnlyZelenkaGuru]

Obviously one of those lying physic Geller type people. Entertaining though I guess

[@lloydbotway5930]

Pure, utter, unadulterated B.S., but convincingly presented.