1958: WOLVES - England's MOST ADVANCED FOOTBALL Club? | Sportsview | Classic BBC Sport | BBC Archive

[@jamesboswell9324]

Those were the days my friend, we thought they'd never end!

[@brianmarshall1637]

I am a Lancashire man but I served in the air force at Lichfield in the late fifties and often went to Molinieu when this team was pla

[@williammohan9784]

Kenneth Wolstenholme was the greatest of commentators and his "They thinks its all over, well it is now" will go down in legend.What isnt known about him is that he won two DFCs in WW2. He was in the elite pathfinders and won both his DFCs for gallantry in over a 100 missions over Germany, when the life expectancy of air crew in Bomber Command was about 7 missions.

[@terenceretter5049]

Surely not playing on Saturday night! Believe Wolves were also forerunners with games against Moscow Dynamo and Honved under lights in the early 50's. Days of laced up footballs and leather studs- gone forever like my youth too soon!

[@andydixon2980]

David coleman is rather Alan Partridge here in his quick fire questions and voice.

[@kieronparr3403]

Who do you think AP was partially based on. Remember his sports "segments"

[@andydixon2980]

@@kieronparr3403 Yeah I get that.

[@ForzaBantams]

3:00 Interesting how some things change but don’t change. The manager here talking about training and making sure players do more work with the ball. In other words he doesn’t think it is of benefit doing lots of the other things like going for runs, and other “fitness” based sides of training, when all of this can be achieved whilst using an actual ball in training. Now me saying all of this sounds pretty obvious, yet Jose Mourinho made changes to the way Chelsea trained to do exactly the same thing. So clearly it’s not that obvious and depends on the preference of the manager/head coach. I guess it comes down to where you draw the line about what specific things can be achieved with the ball and what can’t eg strength which is going to require the gym. But stamina you can probably mostly do with a ball, so if you are running, you do running with a ball, whether that just means sprinting with the ball even if it’s just a case of kick and run rather than dribbling, it is still improving your ball control at higher speeds rather than not having a ball and sprinting. I’m sure there’s loads of other examples.

[@MrGranfield]

Eddie Stuart’s thick South African accent.

[@davidcarrol110]

An era where footballers still had to pay rent and go down the local pub. Some of the players were playing with shrapnel in their limbs!

[@heythisisminenotyours]

And many of them would succumb to dementia

[@horrortackleharry]

"We must progress to compete. As of this season, I have informed all my players that the prompt acquisition of a so-called 'sleeve' tattoo and brassiere-model domestic partner are compulsory."

[@Deearepee1963]

Hmmm. Don't think that first question was particularly controversial....

[@TrueFilter]

Did they build the stadium ?

[@jaybristowe2346]

Unfortunately not

[@76ToneCrome]

Obviously, it's a deep fake video. We all know football started in 1992.

[@CricketEngland]

God stoping being like the Scarecrow and more like Dorothy dummy, football is now only played by overpaid namby-pamby individuals who couldn’t win a WC if their lives depended on it.

[@CricketEngland]

God stoping being like the Scarecrow and more like Dorothy dum*y football is now only played by overpaid namby-pamby individuals who couldn’t win a WC if their lives depended on it.

[@CricketEngland]

God stoping being like the Scarecrow and more like Dorothy, football is now only played by overpaid namby-pamby individuals who couldn’t win a WC if their lives depended on it.

[@76ToneCrome]

@@CricketEngland I'm sensing you're a cricket fan...I don't know why.

[@CricketEngland]

@@76ToneCrome at least as a cricket fan I have seen my national side win a WC, unlike you who ever will

[@AW-kr9fl]

Old school weight and fitness training they were every bit as good as today’s players and far tougher with stronger mentality

[@AndrewStack-lr9fv]

How strange that Burnley,spurs,and Ipswich became champions of the then first division as well as wolves these teams were supposed to be the future none have won the league since

[@edmundpower1250]

I know it's mad. It's like going forward to 2090 and Port Vale, Wrexham and Southampton are cleaning up all the big trophies

[@syedalamgir5838]

Now 2024 is this wolves football club is playing

[@davidburns6681]

If it wasnt for Munich...........

[@macjam9090]

we were 7 points in front of Preston and 9 points in front of Man Utd and in those days it was 2 points for a win .. We were the best amongst a lot of teams who could win the league unlike now when only two occasionally 3 can win the league. Those were different times and they were only paid peanuts compared to today. R.I.P 6.2.58. Wolves ay we.

[@peterdowney1492]

@@macjam9090 I actually did a check on all the games after Munich in the league and I found it nigh on impossible for Manchester United to have won the league that year. In fact the majority of the points dropped by Wolves were AFTER it was impossible for them to lose the league. They only way I could see Manchester United winning the league that year would be if simply the presence of those players would have made Wolves nervous. But that's a long shot. Wolves would have won the league and deservedly so. Superb side. But the future as a whole would have, with very little doubt, belonged to that side that died.

[@macjam9090]

@@peterdowney1492 hey Peter we never know what will happen in the future that great Wolves side would break up in the next year or two and that potentially great man utd team never came to fruition unfortunately. But as someone said football didn't start until 1992 lol. Have a good week.

[@peterdowney1492]

@@macjam9090 I'm inclined to disagree with you Mac. The thing with that Manchester United team that died at Munich was that it was a team of potential AND fruition. The average age was 22 (It's hardly surprising that great Wolves team didn't last beyond 2 years longer when you consider that Billy Wright in 1958 was 38 and 3 players were older than him. Actually, it might have helped had their scouting been better and they hadn't missed out on Duncan Edwards). There was for about 2 years no less than 8 or 9 youth team players in any Manchester United. The were as thick as thieves and had won the league in the two previous years, They had reached a cup final and been in a semi final of the European cup. When the crash occurred they had reached yet another semi final - the captain of the team they beat said they were the best in Europe - maybe, maybe not. But certainly they were the only team that Madrid would be concerned with. They had in Duncan Edwards a player who was probably better than Bobby Charlton, who, of course, was a team mate. I stand by point of 'little doubt'. Nothing is a certainty but some things are very close. This is one of those situations. And as already stated, it is as near a certainty that a team of an average age in the 30s - however good, will not last much longer. Cheers, mate and take care.

[@danieleatwell7757]

Wolves would have won the league in 1957-58 regardless but Man United I believe would have won it in 1958-59 and beyond.

[@JJONNYREPP]

1958: WOLVES - England's MOST ADVANCED FOOTBALL Club? | Sportsview | Classic BBC Sport | BBC Archive. 1.5.24. The most advanced news report of the era, it would seem. now they're deemed, these managers, directors of football, technical directors of football, coach, head coach, assistant managers...where have our actual managers gone? and now they're discussing a price cap on wages due to lack of cash to reinvest in the businesses they're running. Dunno if Jimmy hill will be turning in his grave but it makes sense to allow local and domestic talent, per se, to at least have the opportunity to play for a local or further afield squad. Ironic that the premiership would rather employ foreign nationals than domestic talent. it's their own English league, ffs, and the natives can't get a game in it..... what to do? they said the High fslutin ways of alleged continental class would implode one day. It seems yo be foin' just that...

[@CricketEngland]

Didn’t do Wolves much good did it seeing they only won the league 1 title 1 more time (the following years) and then nothing since then apart from a third division title and 2 Second division titles.

[@original.dwornboy]

Well, apart from medicine, irrigation, health, roads, cheese and education, baths and the Circus Maximus, what have the Romans ever done for us

[@davidvasey5065]

Won another FA Cup and two League Cups

[@marknewbold2583]

2 League Cups. The first team to win every major English title too

[@danieleatwell7757]

Plus they played in the inaugural UEFA Cup final in 1972.

[@CrisTheRed]

We all can see how modern football is made up of anybody that can invent a way to jump on the bandwagon of a football club Nowadays there is a job within a job within a job