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Luke Casey examines the impact of the microprocessor in the workplace. Already, the adoption of word processors and text editing software in offices has been shown to provide massive efficiency boosts. Could sophisticated networking systems - using existing telephone wires to allow microprocessors to communicate with one another - spell the end of office work altogether, enabling employees to work effectively from home?
There is some remarkably prophetic stuff in this report.
This clip is from Nationwide, originally broadcast 11 December, 1979.
00:00 The inefficient office
01:14 What is a word processor?
02:44 Floppy disks
03:15 Wordplex system in Bradford Council
04:24 Home working with networked word processors
07:05 Micropad
07:54 Author Cy Enfield's Microwriter
09:29 The end of the Industrial Revolution?
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@VicodinElmo
@VicodinElmo 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that young couples could just choose a house and come to the council for a mortgage is the most surprising thing to me!
@vanrutgar6536
@vanrutgar6536 Жыл бұрын
And how polite staff are In fact how everyone talks in the video Now it's gutteral Society is degrading
@mel816
@mel816 Жыл бұрын
Not from the UK myself, but I wonder if the council actually funded the mortgage or were they just a mortgage broker?
@unnamedchannel1237
@unnamedchannel1237 Жыл бұрын
@@vanrutgar6536 you think they may have been polite because they new the camera was on them ?
@DavidPaulMorgan
@DavidPaulMorgan Жыл бұрын
when I started at a local council - we used to manage the MIRAS mortgage system. Mortgage Interest Relief at Source - yes, council mortgages.
@davidkmatthews
@davidkmatthews Жыл бұрын
@@DavidPaulMorgan That's intriguing! Do you mean for people to purchase their council house under the "Right To Buy" scheme? If so, I was under the impression that the ability do so came into effect in late 1980, yet this film is apparently from the year before....?
@TweedSuit
@TweedSuit 2 жыл бұрын
1979: Will WORD PROCESSORS start a HOME WORKING revolution? 2020: No. But a global pandemic will. 2023: Back in the office again…
@twisterwiper
@twisterwiper 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, true 😄
@csharp3884
@csharp3884 Жыл бұрын
Yup, in 1979, they are 40 years too early. Sad to think people spent their whole careers doing work in an office when they could have been doing it at home
@dcarbs2979
@dcarbs2979 Жыл бұрын
It's the technology that allowed it to happen. If it was all still manual, work would grind to a halt.
@csharp3884
@csharp3884 Жыл бұрын
@DnB and Psy Production I would argue it’s less motivating to work in the office BECAUSE of so many people to interact with. Too many opportunities for side conversation and spontaneity to ruin work flow. Sometimes you just want to get your work done and not be involved with office politics
@rockets4kids
@rockets4kids Жыл бұрын
My first thought reading the title when it popped up in my feed.
@AntGeezer
@AntGeezer 2 жыл бұрын
I love how he had to write a bit of code to change one word. Just wonderful.
@therealcaldini
@therealcaldini 2 жыл бұрын
Still an extremely efficient way to do things. Tools such as sed and awk on Unix systems can be very powerful if you know how to use them. I still use Vi when I can and its command to replace a word is very similar.
@tralphstreet
@tralphstreet 2 жыл бұрын
@@therealcaldini Please tell me you're not actually using vi, and are instead using something more modern, like vim or neovim.
@therealcaldini
@therealcaldini 2 жыл бұрын
@@tralphstreet To be fair, I think on most modern systems vi is an alias of vim isn’t it?
@tralphstreet
@tralphstreet 2 жыл бұрын
@@therealcaldini Yes.
@DavidPaulMorgan
@DavidPaulMorgan Жыл бұрын
@@therealcaldini they reminded me of the old visicalc commands and also the vi editor!
@edum.6353
@edum.6353 Жыл бұрын
the fact this is from 1979 is mindblowing, everything so precise and on point
@animatewithdermot
@animatewithdermot Жыл бұрын
It's striking alright. Often these old pieces are incredibly silly, but this one is eerie.
@brucemanly
@brucemanly 4 ай бұрын
Apart from that micro typewriter. It looks horrible.
@tommypyatt4062
@tommypyatt4062 2 жыл бұрын
I aspire to one day have a well equipped kitchen, two children, and a bubble memory terminal.
@philip-at-tube
@philip-at-tube Жыл бұрын
lol
@Hollywood041
@Hollywood041 Жыл бұрын
I cannot even properly imagine a well-equipped kitchen.
@fionamessenger7660
@fionamessenger7660 Ай бұрын
After all, it's the best thing that 's happened since The Pill. Please.
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 Ай бұрын
Currently I only have a partially equipped kitchen.
@DeusExAstra
@DeusExAstra Жыл бұрын
This video is so prophetic, it's remarkable. It's like they were getting ready for 2020 way back then and didnt realize it.
@moogfooger
@moogfooger 5 ай бұрын
ya, they realizedit alright
@FoxDren
@FoxDren 2 жыл бұрын
People where successfully working from home even back then yet managers still refuse to accept it
@Maximustard
@Maximustard 2 жыл бұрын
If I’m paying someone’s wages, they would need to work, at work
@scottishwildcat
@scottishwildcat 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maximustard Then you're missing out on a lot of hard-working, unstressed, self-motivated people, and paying a lot of unnecessary office rent and utility bills. Your choice.
@meh3247
@meh3247 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maximustard One cursory glance at your profile page here reveals you to be a follower of these channels: GBNews, Trump, PragerU, The Right Media, Mr Reagan, Ben Shapiro, WokeMedia, RedPill comedy, and a whole host of football accounts. Surmising from this, I think everyone whose IQ is greater than Pi, can ignore you on the grounds that you're a right wing troll just trying to gain attention in a youtube comment thread because the overwhelming majority of real life humans in your immediate vicinity quite rightly ignore you and your absurd views. Which is what I'm going to do now, safe in the knowledge that you're not an employer of anyone - you lack the ability to employ critical thinking. Cheerio, lonely boy.
@shaunsteele8244
@shaunsteele8244 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maximustard why does it matter what their physical location is, if they're doing the work and getting the job done?
@wcg66
@wcg66 2 жыл бұрын
Management hasn’t evolved since the start of the industrial revolution.
@Nightweaver1
@Nightweaver1 Жыл бұрын
This was made the year I was born. It's amazing to see just how far computing has come in the last 43 years, from cumbersome central hard disks and awkward, slow word processors to supercomputers you hold in your hand and connection speeds so fast you can download the entire Library of Congress in a few seconds.
@SwazerSwazers
@SwazerSwazers Жыл бұрын
Pretty impressive considering this was in the late 70s & they were already talking about voice recognition tech & working from home remotely. The dude talking about consoles in the home was on the money for sure & his comments on getting it wrong & tyranny were scaringly accurate. I was born in 72. As kids, we fantasised about the kind of tech that's now taken for granted.
@Dendroapsis
@Dendroapsis Жыл бұрын
He even seemed to predict the internet at 7:06
@alanpods______8260
@alanpods______8260 2 жыл бұрын
"It's the biggest aid to totalitarianism you could ever come across, if you think about it... On the other hand its the greatest boon to decentralization and people fulfilling themselves" Wow! How perfectly predicted.
@twitchygiraffe4636
@twitchygiraffe4636 2 жыл бұрын
If you count people shaming others for what they think on facebook totalitarianism, then well predicted mate!!!!
@TaylerKnox
@TaylerKnox Жыл бұрын
That’s harsh.
@TaylerKnox
@TaylerKnox Жыл бұрын
@Saint Ratus thanks.
@eliteneo_gta7035
@eliteneo_gta7035 Жыл бұрын
looking at you, Metaverse.... 😏
@mastergoogoo5854
@mastergoogoo5854 Жыл бұрын
One of the rare occasions the bbc was telling the truth. No doubt if someone said something like that today if would be labelled disinformation, misinformation or malinformation. The person saying it would be labelled as either: extreme right, conspiracy theorist, climate change denier, Russian spy, domestic terrorist or/ and anti vaxxer today. They would also be arrested by the thought police and brought to the ministry of love. Orwell would be turning in his grave. I certainly do not consent to this evil future the satanic elites have planned for us.
@StefanMilner
@StefanMilner 5 ай бұрын
I'm 21 and these archives are so fascinating, the world was such a different place back then, this report portrays so well how revolutionary being able to go back and edit text you've typed was, even typing this comment I've made plenty of typos.
@a9udn9u
@a9udn9u Жыл бұрын
I love the color tone of videos from 60s and 70s.
@leandrotami
@leandrotami Жыл бұрын
I am really, really amazed at how current and foreshadowing this turned out to be. Programming remotely from home... in the 70s! The analysis of a society where remote work slowly becomes more and more common... I'm astonished
@Hollywood041
@Hollywood041 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever seen this show, Star Trek? It's trippy man. They were all like "let's imagine what the future could look like given our understanding of technology today." And then there was this other one TNG, that went beyond tech and said "you know, our society would probably change too. I wonder what that will be given our current arc of progress." Wild.
@brucemanly
@brucemanly 4 ай бұрын
​@@Hollywood041TOS had society chances too
@engineeredlifeform
@engineeredlifeform 2 жыл бұрын
I had a massive argument with my Technology teacher in 1982 or '83. I'd said I was interested in being a computer programmer, he said 'no point, all the computer programs we'll ever need will have been written within five years'. I'd argued that computers would become ubiquitous, as they were getting smaller and cheaper, he said we just wouldn't need them that much. The cellphone in my pocket is more powerful and has more storage than the room full of computers I looked after around 1990,....
@TheBroz
@TheBroz 2 жыл бұрын
I remember an IT teacher of mine in the mid 90s who was convinced that software would write itself by the time I was grown up.
@AD-kv9kj
@AD-kv9kj 2 жыл бұрын
Mere centuries ago everyone was saying slavery could never be stopped and was just "human nature". Basically, people haven't a clue what they're talking about but love to feel like they do and anything can change radically if we care enough to make it happen.
@meh3247
@meh3247 2 жыл бұрын
I took a different approach, by demonstrating to the Teachers that I knew more than they did at the time. My "work experience" was writing computer aided electronic circuitry design software for the local college. I was exploited by the clueless.
@SimirJohnson
@SimirJohnson 2 жыл бұрын
Those who can, do. Those who cant, teach.
@xr6lad
@xr6lad 2 жыл бұрын
@@SimirJohnson I’m assuming your surgeon became proficient by just picking up that scalpel and practising on everyone? I hope you certainly fly no planes: be difficult finding your pilot without having being taught to fly.
@Vassilika1
@Vassilika1 Жыл бұрын
4:57 thumbs up for the person who installed the plate, all screw heads in the same direction.... Thank you, I love it!
@davidkmatthews
@davidkmatthews 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant bit of history! The "F International" company referred to actually started up in the early 1960s, employing mostly female programmers working from home. They built up a strong worldwide reputation for excellence. I seem to recall that using a telephone in 1979 cost around four pence per minute (16 pence in today's money), so I imagine they'd have to use the dial-in connection sparingly in order to avoid racking up hefty bills with Buzby!
@caimin15221522
@caimin15221522 2 жыл бұрын
For those interested: F International was a British freelance software and systems services company, founded as Freelance Programmers in England in 1962, by Dame Stephanie Shirley; she was involved in the company until she retired in 1993. The company was renamed in 1974 to F International. In 1988 the company was renamed again, to The FI Group, and later as Xansa plc. Xansa plc was acquired by the French company now known as Sopra Steria in 2007. From Wikipedia en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_International
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the reference to uploading work by modem, the phone bills were the first thing that came to mind! They were expensive enough in the late 80s (As an 8 year old who’d just learned his best friends number quickly found out!) so the notion of using a modem in the late 70s with bit rates in the 10s/sec sounds pretty darn pricey! 😳 With that - And my love of cycling in mind - I think it more likely I’d have printed off or saved the work to tape at home and then run it into the office. With my documents often exceeding the 50KB mark, using SneakerNet would be both quicker, and cheaper! 😇
@mancerrss
@mancerrss Жыл бұрын
They we're all WFH and Freelancing, even before everybody and they mommas are working from home. I wonder what happened to this Freelancing company that is way way way ahead of it's time.
@GeeEee75
@GeeEee75 5 ай бұрын
Women of the 1960s and 70s were the equivalent of offshore workers today. They could legally be paid less than a man for the same work.
@PoshLifeforME
@PoshLifeforME 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could go back to 1979 with all the IT knowledge I have accumulated from the mid 80's. Ah fantasies. where would I be without you.
@ilanpretz
@ilanpretz Жыл бұрын
I do love to see the childhood of our technology through the eyes of our grandparents 😍😍😍🤗
@CaptainX2012
@CaptainX2012 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you are uploading this old stuff, keep up the good work!
@michaelt8682
@michaelt8682 2 жыл бұрын
i mean its the bbc archive. what else is it going to do?
@Hollywood041
@Hollywood041 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelt8682 Well, they could not upload the archive... and just keep it in a basement storage for reference until somebody comes to requisition a specific episode on the correct form, in triplicate.
@alanjrobertson
@alanjrobertson Жыл бұрын
About halfway through they actually make some pretty good predictions about working from home and the Internet! The alternative keyboard not so much...
@MrAsBBB
@MrAsBBB 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and loved the kitchen shot. Takes me back to my childhood. I was a child of the 70s
@effess8698
@effess8698 2 жыл бұрын
5:05 "Just look at the French..." presumably he's referring to Minitel, a precursor to the world wide web, which was being rolled out around the time of this programme, and amazingly survived until 2012
@WalterVermeir
@WalterVermeir 2 жыл бұрын
I have used a Minitel a while in early 2000's in Belgium. There where used by deaf people to make contact. I was acting as a gateway for deaf people to make calls to hearing people and to translate between them. That service still exist but is webbased now. Minitel service was a long time available alongside the webchat option but was eventually terminated because nobody used it anymore. And hardly anyone remembered how it worked at the end.
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 2 жыл бұрын
The vast difference in uptake between Frances Minitel and the UKs Prestel systems is an excellent demonstration of the pros/cons of public and private sector implementation of new technology. Minitel was provided free to anybody with telephone service, whilst British subscribers wanting Prestel had to fork out about £450 (About £2,800 in 2022 money) in equipment alone, and that doesn’t even cover the additional subscriptions to access Prestel, and additional charges that could accidentally be incurred whilst browsing! (Prestel supported a „Chargeable page” feature). With this in mind, it’s probably not surprising that Minitel lasted thirty years, whilst Prestel - Though allegedly more durable and versatile than the former - Barely lasted thirty *months*! 🇬🇧💸🙃
@GeertDelmulle
@GeertDelmulle Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed.
@davidrenton
@davidrenton Жыл бұрын
@@dieseldragon6756 that is a disadvantage in it's self , having a 30 year system from the 80's onwards would be incredibly antiquated
@RagHelen
@RagHelen 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow the information that you can correct typos easily before sending the text out was lost somewhere in the past 43 years.
@animatewithdermot
@animatewithdermot Жыл бұрын
Your right its infruiating isn't it.
@smithmr1
@smithmr1 2 жыл бұрын
Love that this was so on point and an accurate reflection of life today.
@mindblast3901
@mindblast3901 2 жыл бұрын
Life today Sucks
@TinLeadHammer
@TinLeadHammer 2 жыл бұрын
As boring as back then, typing on a screen instead of real keyboard.
@user-jt5vm3mi1w
@user-jt5vm3mi1w 2 жыл бұрын
no it isn't
@user-jt5vm3mi1w
@user-jt5vm3mi1w 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindblast3901 how does it?
@eaaeeeea
@eaaeeeea Жыл бұрын
Most big companies talked about digitalization for decades (all my life), but the pandemic forced everyone's hand. In the companies I've worked at during the pandemic, the switch to home office was relatively painless. Our financials showed that productivity stayed the same or increased. So not all bad this pandemic.
@deadstoned
@deadstoned Жыл бұрын
Totally amazing. I really love BBC ARCHIVE. Thanks for sharing.
@Jimyjames73
@Jimyjames73 Жыл бұрын
W😮W - Floppy discs - I remember those days!!! Also early days of the "Super Information High-way" - I.e. the internet!!! 😉🚂🚂🚂
@westminsterwatcher5152
@westminsterwatcher5152 2 жыл бұрын
Bloody love this channel!
@TinLeadHammer
@TinLeadHammer Жыл бұрын
The frame selected for the thumbnail is the best one in the whole video: very clean and futuristic. I commend the person who chose that image and modified it, using a suitable retro-futuristic background, very stylish.
@Aerojet01
@Aerojet01 Жыл бұрын
I learnt how to touch type on an electronic typewriter at college. In those days, you had an idea where computers were heading. In one lesson, I witnessed a BBC micro connected to a telephone and it was sending/receiving Ceefax messages. I remember being blown away by it.
@Payne2view
@Payne2view Жыл бұрын
The MicroWriter was still trying to gain popularity when I did my Computer Studies diploma in 1988. I'm glad I learned to type instead.
@TheStevenWhiting
@TheStevenWhiting Жыл бұрын
3:13 Different type of minidisk :) and I never knew Verbatim had been around that long.
@kay_red1156
@kay_red1156 Жыл бұрын
It took 41 years and a pandemic for upper management to understand.
@ColtraneTaylor
@ColtraneTaylor Жыл бұрын
And they still have not understood. 50 years from now they can undo what little changes we are asking for, just as with Roe v Wade. Primitive bahstards.
@fuehrer_tb5597
@fuehrer_tb5597 Жыл бұрын
Truee..
@truth-12345.
@truth-12345. 4 ай бұрын
BBC Archive is like a time capsule for this old tech short documentary videos.
@jeanbonnefoy1377
@jeanbonnefoy1377 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Too bad the MicroWriter didn't really caught, though. However, I keep dear memories of my first Olivetti "word processor" in 1978 and I still keep several boxes of 10 5"1/4 floppy disks... each needed to contain just one of my books - and not the longest ones! Living then in Paris, I enjoyed having a Minitel terminal by my desk. Used not only as a white and yellow pages phone books on line but for checking the weather forecast, reading the news, send and receive messages or book train tickets...
@PaulRuane
@PaulRuane 2 жыл бұрын
You can still get chorded keyboards: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorded_keyboard
@DavidPaulMorgan
@DavidPaulMorgan Жыл бұрын
I remember the Microwriter (never had one) and the French Minitel - the internet without the internet I suppose. I suppose in UK we did really take to the teletext services - especially for news, weather and the Oracle/Teletext holiday pages. Prestel never really caught on - I used it once for my first 'real' job in '84 to post product pricing for the (remote) London office.
@acmenipponair
@acmenipponair Жыл бұрын
The microwriter was just a stupid idea of a person tired of a typewriter. Nowadays you can type faster when you are good trained on a computer keyboard than even with a typewriter, as you don't have to care for spelling errors, as you can simply delete them. You often can achieve up to 400 characters a minute when you are well trained - even professional typists in the 1970s weren't able to type so fast without much mistakes.
@mancerrss
@mancerrss Жыл бұрын
I think Microwriter eventually evolved into stenographer tho, which are still being used in courtooms. The ultimate opponent of technology aside from mass adoption is it's user friendlyness. And the way this system works, as fast as it seems is still too complex for a normal human to learn. You'll need to practice and think first before you type. It's unnatural
@IkarusKommt
@IkarusKommt Жыл бұрын
@@mancerrss Such keyboards were invented several times since late-30s.
@phild8192
@phild8192 Жыл бұрын
They predicted voice recognition! We don’t even really think about that these days, but it’s only been with us for about a decade.
@K.F-R
@K.F-R 2 жыл бұрын
How a smart, prescient optimist sees the future of the Internet in 1979: 10:20
@brianm2881
@brianm2881 Жыл бұрын
We asked for it, though. We wanted these connected devices. It just so happened that as these devices gave us an ability to reach out, it gave others an ability reach in. If this trend continues, it could end up being that one of the great personal commodities of the future is true privacy.
@MrMann0123
@MrMann0123 2 жыл бұрын
That is brilliant.
@kebman
@kebman 2 жыл бұрын
Marvellous! I saw the digital typewriters emerge in the 80's, meaning typewriters that had a little LCD display where you could pre-type the text and edit it, before printing it out on the page. The typewriter wouldn't _print_ it per se, but actually type it in machine-gun fashion, rakka-takka-takka on the paper. It was magical technology!
@mainstay.
@mainstay. Жыл бұрын
I remember in 1985, a friend had a typewriting business ( mainly typing students theses) another mutual friend worked for Xerox and 'gave' her one of these digital typewriters, as you say small, 80 character screen. I remember thinking ( as a 'hands on ' joiner) this is great for people that work in an office, but this technology will never help me in my work. How wrong I was!
@merion297
@merion297 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating period documents these are. 😊 Thank you for sharing it the world. We have a time machine now, sort of.
@davetate1155
@davetate1155 Жыл бұрын
It really is quite amazing how far technology has come in such a short space of time.
@jmaycock
@jmaycock 3 ай бұрын
This is excellent
@CaiAllinx
@CaiAllinx Жыл бұрын
Haha that's so brilliant that you could put the phone against the printer to transfer the data!
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 2 жыл бұрын
1:40 Nice to see a SWTPC 6800 being shown off!
@jsjxyz
@jsjxyz Жыл бұрын
Wow, good material for teaching, thanks
@JonnyInfinite
@JonnyInfinite 5 ай бұрын
That typing hand thing is a proper nonsense invention, I love it
@connclissmann6514
@connclissmann6514 5 ай бұрын
By 1979, on our firm we were already using WordStar (with the optional MergeStar and SpellStar).
@Seminal_Ideas
@Seminal_Ideas Жыл бұрын
The BBC back then was polite and informative.
@TheCatBilbo
@TheCatBilbo Жыл бұрын
In a few years from this, I'm going to own my first computer: a Sinclair ZX81. That alone is an amazing revolution - an 11-year old with a home computer! Unthinkable not many years before. The presenter is Luke Casey, who only died in November 2022 at 80. Originally from Ireland he came to the UK at 14. Here, he is a mere 37-years old!
@brucemanly
@brucemanly 4 ай бұрын
What I always remember about the zx81 is Kryten telling me that starbug somehow crashes more often 😂
@KBProduction
@KBProduction 2 жыл бұрын
Just how much thing have changed
@TheBroz
@TheBroz 2 жыл бұрын
God damn I love this youtube channel, such brilliant artefacts.
@DaveFlash
@DaveFlash 2 жыл бұрын
'in the future inevitably we'll all be part of a worldwide information society' yes, it's called the internet or World Wide Web, and here's me watching this thing on a little thing called KZbin, short for 'your own telly'.
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 2 жыл бұрын
Before this service came into existence, I’d always thought a „U Tube” was the prefabricated tunnels used to build Metro lines in many German cities… 🚇🇩🇪😇
@pioneer1131
@pioneer1131 9 ай бұрын
its absolutely insane how much they got right here
@John-uz2sz
@John-uz2sz Жыл бұрын
Interesting take on the future from 1979
@Yoctopory
@Yoctopory Жыл бұрын
We definitely need that in our company!!
@DanielsPolitics1
@DanielsPolitics1 Жыл бұрын
I’ve had out the papers for my employer’s plans for emergency working (WW2 if the office was destroyed or inaccessible, and emergency 24/7 working). In WW2 the plan was for me to visit every day one of a series of reporting centres, and once the office opened they would telephone or send a letter to the centre to tell me to come to work. In the 60s I would have been telephoned (some colleagues would be called on a neighbours phone, not having a phone) and told to call my telephone tree or report directly, and alert the duty teleprinter operator by phone. We would then report to the office. Once there I would probably have just stared in confusion at the teleprinter, not daring to tear off and read the messages until the operator arrived. Of course nowadays I’d get a call from my boss, open my laptop, and just get on with it. It would have seemed marvellous to my predecessors. I think what seems most odd to me is the apparent helplessness of senior staff. It would have been assumed I was completely incapable of operating anything more complex than a rotary dial telephone. Even then, an operator would have been available to enable me to reach extensions, and possibly normal direct dial lines.
@andreaofficer6709
@andreaofficer6709 15 күн бұрын
10:09 to the end of this video is so incredibly prophetic!
@TheStevenWhiting
@TheStevenWhiting Жыл бұрын
3:55 back in the days when they sold mortgages. I believe some of those are still on file. Where I was, a local council, they had converted them over to modern systems so had to look back on an old system to see the mortgages from the 80s they'd sold.
@TheUtuber999
@TheUtuber999 Жыл бұрын
Cut my word processing teeth using Bank Street Writer for the Commodore 64 back in 1985. 40-column editing wasn't much fun... but 80-column editing using Wordstar on a PC in 1988 was a game-changer.
@bartobruintjes7056
@bartobruintjes7056 11 ай бұрын
I hope that this invention will come soon to our homes.
@alumycrick2911
@alumycrick2911 Жыл бұрын
Grandad: Ah, the days when floppy disks were actually floppy. Son: They were floppy? I don't believe it! Grandson: What's a floppy disk?
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 Жыл бұрын
I was born in 1987 and remember proper floppy disks. We had them for our BBC B Micro and my grandfather's ancient Amstrad. When I was at secondary school in the early-mid 2000s we all had our own 3-1/2" floppy disks given to us by the school to save our work on. Those RM computers couldn't handle USB and nobody had a memory stick at that point. Got my very first USB memory stick in September 2005. It cost £25 and had a life-changing capacity of 512MB. I think I still have it somewhere.
@xiaokhat
@xiaokhat Жыл бұрын
@@halfbakedproductions7887 I read your comment and thought we went to the same school, but I am in Asia so that would be quite impossible. Back in the early 2000s, we were given mini floppy disks to save our work on. But I never saw a floppy disk in real life.
@abiola33
@abiola33 Жыл бұрын
@@halfbakedproductions7887 Reading your comment felt so relatable. I'm a 87 baby also!
@hyperteleXii
@hyperteleXii Жыл бұрын
My neighbor asked me in 2020 if there was an easier way to copy a computer text document than creating a new file and typing it out again.
@stevenirby5576
@stevenirby5576 Жыл бұрын
These people were on the absolute bleeding edge of technology. How amazing.
@WalterVermeir
@WalterVermeir 2 жыл бұрын
Did knew the Minitel story but not the original economic concept for it. Phone books! - From Belgium. The very last paper phone books where issued just a couple of years ago here. - Great video. Also did not new that the first modern 'home working' was done in 1979. Remarkable
@mel816
@mel816 Жыл бұрын
France Telecom (now Orange) also made tons of money by allowing third parties to offer content like news and ticket booking services, of course in exchange for a percentage of the fees😉
@Renovator26
@Renovator26 Жыл бұрын
I love this series! Some things we got hilariously wrong - and then came Twitter!! John, Ontario, Canada
@MiKeMiDNiTe-77
@MiKeMiDNiTe-77 2 жыл бұрын
How else loves seeing late 70s footage of interesting things
@andrewdeans3686
@andrewdeans3686 2 жыл бұрын
Who else . . . . ? For goodness sake ! ! ! !
@jimmybrad156
@jimmybrad156 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewdeans3686 For godness psyche*
@TheUtuber999
@TheUtuber999 Жыл бұрын
How else indeed, except through YT. 😁
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love it. I work in modern day technology and really wish I could have been back at the start where all of this was truly cutting edge and exciting. I work for a research organisation and our current near-retirement MD and a few other old timers were 'on the tools' back in 1987, but our roots go back to 1971. In both cases there are plenty of photos. It looks _so_ cool. Would love to be sat in some 'computer room' with 1970s beardy men, looking at tape reels and a 2MB hard drive that's the size of my washing machine. You'd never take your work home with you, there was no on-call, no emphasis on tinkering with a home lab in every moment of your spare time. Work life balance was better and I have it on good authority that programming was also easier simply because the target systems were more primitive. Sadly, I can honestly say that modern day tech and IT just isn't as groundbreaking or magical. Nothing's really 'new' - the programming languages and frameworks are all there, the hardware is all there, the concepts are all there, the big cloud providers are there - you're just building variations on a common theme and essentially using a Lego set. Write some code using a load of off-the-shelf libraries and it gets burped out onto a Linux server, oh yay.
@jea559
@jea559 2 жыл бұрын
It'll never catch on! 😁
@ojbeez5260
@ojbeez5260 Жыл бұрын
Wow...can't wait!
@KANIME
@KANIME 2 жыл бұрын
8:13 man pulled out the Cherry MX Blues
@masteryoda394
@masteryoda394 Жыл бұрын
5:44 It's nice to see BASIC again 😎
@hdufort
@hdufort Жыл бұрын
With decentralized work we should eventually start to see the big central cities losing office space, perhaps entire companies, the highways and major access roads will see a reduction in traffic jams. Smaller "satellite" towns, not exactly suburbs, just far enough, will be favored. The financial and business districts once needed to be packed together for three main reasons. They needed eyes on port activities. They needed to be close to the stock exchange. They needed to be close to each other to exchange communications and organize meetings. None of this matters anymore.
@nothereforit.605
@nothereforit.605 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how all the machines and programs became obsolete so quickly because of how fast progress was made. I wonder if a country or even an office ended up losing ungodly amounts of money by jumping to quickly on one breakthrough. Then just as soon as they finished upgrading their infrastructure a second faster one came onto the market.
@ojbeez5260
@ojbeez5260 Жыл бұрын
Still happening...always will. Upgrade cycles in some companies are as short as every 6 months. Windows bloody updates are every month or so.
@MD-fu6ly
@MD-fu6ly Жыл бұрын
A lot of places ended up using the legacy machinery for 10-20 years
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 Жыл бұрын
It depends on the industry. For a real viable business that could leverage technology, the benefits far, far, exceeded the expenses involved in such things. There were real competitive advantages back in those days where you lost contracts, customers, because you weren't keeping up.
@Hokunin
@Hokunin Жыл бұрын
Japanese government still used floppy disks until just a few months ago. Even more ancient floppy disks are being used in Nuclear armament installations.
@DesignFIaw
@DesignFIaw Жыл бұрын
@@Hokunin I hear the undertone there, and it's a common criticism (fear, even) of certain government operations. But not just them, COBOL is still widely used by most financial institutions and the global digital payment infrastructure as the core of their programming - a programming language designed more than 60 years ago. Often people associate old technology and early computing solutions with vulnerability and commonplace system failures. However, this isn't that simple. Here is an experiment for you. Get your smartphone, start using some everyday apps you'd normally use: and count all the bugs you encounter. All the non-intuitive behaviour, all the visual and control issues, everything. You'll be surprised to find that the quality of programming is extremely poor, you've just got accustomed to it. In fact, it has been declining for the last 10-15 years, visibly - this is despite the ever increasing processing power/intelligence, automated and predictive programming aids and all the other ever expanded tools and knowledge at programmers' disposal. Turns out that modern programming is extremely complex, but noone can truly understand the complexity of even a medium sized software, they are only building on the surface (ie high level code and abstractions). Micro-kernels have shown as that short, consise, but ultimately better built software are more robust and reliable. You can get away with control/UI issues, connectivity loss and some visual problems in an app like facebook messenger. Would you be OK with those same issues if you were sitting at a nuclear missile's control panel? I'd much rather have floppy disks and room sized computers control nuclear silos than an interactive web-application made in JS. This is (partly) why many of the most vital computer sites (tax offices, military etc.) around the world often use "outdated" technology, and why the banking sector is still heavily reliant on it; we can see how new organizations with more novel computer systems are prone for vulnerabilities (NY dams, colonial pipeline, oil terminals in europe, even SWIFT).
@bmc868
@bmc868 Жыл бұрын
1979 Office : 1000 people 2022 Office : 1 person.....
@tasmanjones84
@tasmanjones84 2 жыл бұрын
prophetic
@zitzong
@zitzong 2 жыл бұрын
Wow- Amazing technology
@MrIrrepressible
@MrIrrepressible Жыл бұрын
1:06 ahh the old bubble screen tv with the blsck border. Haven't seen one of them in yonks
@postergmail6202
@postergmail6202 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to get my text processor.
@vanhalenbr
@vanhalenbr Жыл бұрын
The guy explaining at 6:15 about “word processors” talking to each other and how to “link” things in a way described the basic concept of markup or HTML
@hunter2442
@hunter2442 Ай бұрын
Fascinating technology!! Having actually lived through that age until now this hits hard for me that I am old! I wish they had such a video explaining how current technology is helpful!! The portable typewriter 7:55 is a nightmare in my opinion!
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 Жыл бұрын
10:28 Talk about being spot on.
@davidmizak4642
@davidmizak4642 Жыл бұрын
You deliver excellent content to your audience. It's very interesting material. All of your effort put into creating this video is much appreciated. I'm truly grateful for your help!
@WhatALoadOfTosca
@WhatALoadOfTosca Жыл бұрын
It's the BBC. The UK tax payer pays them for it ;)
@iggytse
@iggytse 2 жыл бұрын
That text editor looks like VI on Unix. That was archaic. The Pico text editor was easier to use.
@travelvideos
@travelvideos Жыл бұрын
That was the peak of public sector employment 7.07 million persons. Now it is down to about 5 million.
@CountScarlioni
@CountScarlioni Жыл бұрын
That's down to those pesky microcomputers again. Give a manager a machine that does two people's jobs for the price of one, and that's a guaranteed p45 in the post the next morning!
@peterandersson3812
@peterandersson3812 2 жыл бұрын
I want a micro writer!
@waverider1674
@waverider1674 Жыл бұрын
1979 - Home Working 2020 - till now Work from home.
@DecentralEyes
@DecentralEyes Жыл бұрын
I’ve wanted to be a computer programmer working from home since 2003!
@TKLM-tube
@TKLM-tube Жыл бұрын
5:17 nice! I can see that...
@thetooginator153
@thetooginator153 Жыл бұрын
In 1979, it was pretty reasonable to assume that the internet wasn’t going to be available to the general public. Just a few years later, regular folks could get an internet account. In the late eighties, my mom predicted that everyone was going to be on the internet, and I thought that idea was silly. Oops!
@martinh4982
@martinh4982 2 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute... you went to the council to get a mortgage?
@jacknedry3925
@jacknedry3925 Жыл бұрын
I want that micro writer!!!
@RustyLightningPhoto
@RustyLightningPhoto Жыл бұрын
This 'world wide information society' sounds interesting.
@fillman86
@fillman86 Жыл бұрын
after seeing this, I think it's time to update, I could be working from home!
@ericendro
@ericendro Жыл бұрын
2:55 It's nostalgic seeing that Floppy Disk compare to SSD NVMe nowadays 😢
@BinnyBongBaron_AoE
@BinnyBongBaron_AoE 9 ай бұрын
We'll be unstoppable once we get our hands on this technology!
@safirahmed
@safirahmed 4 ай бұрын
The text editor from 01:42 seems to be a predecessor to the text style shown on the James Cameron film The Abyss.
@henryviii6341
@henryviii6341 2 жыл бұрын
Bradford City Council LEADING THE WORLD 🤡 words I never thought would hear.
@Maximustard
@Maximustard 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@Starfireaw11
@Starfireaw11 2 жыл бұрын
Probably still running that system from the 1970s today 🤣🤣
@xxnoxx-xp5bl
@xxnoxx-xp5bl 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't sound too great to around half the people who used to work there...
@brendanbrendan9435
@brendanbrendan9435 2 жыл бұрын
And words they'll never hear again......
@mel816
@mel816 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Starfireaw11 lots of long established companies (especially banks and insurance companies) still run on 1970s and 1980s mainframes, just hidden behind web/graphical displays
@mainstay.
@mainstay. Жыл бұрын
I remember coming across Minitel while living in Paris in 1987. I couldn't believe the technology but as all 'Ludites', I thought "who would want to constantly send brief text messages, when one could simply call or even visit with the other person" Ha !
@PlanetImo
@PlanetImo Жыл бұрын
My first wordproccessor had a daisy wheel in it. If you wanted to change the font, you changed the daisy wheel.
@katbryce
@katbryce 2 жыл бұрын
37,000 pages of A4 text in a single computer 🤯. We now have a 1.5TB micro-SD card, which can store about 1 billion pages of text.
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 2 жыл бұрын
But don’t forget that „Some capacity is used for formatting and other purposes, and is not available for user storage”. Add to that the problem of „glut” (Write the same document in Word 97 and Office 2020, and look at the file sizes!) and the raw capacity increase translates to a much lower increase in practical capacity in real terms! 💾💸😉 Case in point: In the 90s all of your work assignments would fit on two 3,5” floppies totalling 2,8MB capacity. Nowadays you’d be in BIG trouble if relying on any flash drive smaller than 32GB… 🙃
@katbryce
@katbryce 2 жыл бұрын
@@dieseldragon6756 True, but part of that is due to text being stored in unicode, which means if you want to include some Russian, or Chinese, or Emoji characters in your document, you can now do that without messing around with different fonts.
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 2 жыл бұрын
@@katbryce Aye, the change to Unicode (e.g. 16 bytes per character as opposed to 8) does effectively double the size of the user text, but this isn’t the main driver of glut. In my example above the extra data wouldn’t generally oblige a third disk be carried. 💾😇 The main driver of glut is the extra data that manufacturers are now storing in data files and elsewhere (Particularly in filesystem journals) compared to before. In Word 97 a single page of ASCII text might be about 11KB and record creation and edit dates, the registered user and company name. Nowadays Office 365 will create a 50KB+ file to store the same information (Of which only 19KB is due to Unicode) and potentially record information you don’t want being transmitted with the file, such as unique IDs corresponding to your computer system and/or operating system installation. 🔓
@jlyn8228
@jlyn8228 Жыл бұрын
Took 30 years, but in 2009 our fourth grade class started using laptops for writing.
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