Long-Lost Drawings Found Inside Michelangelo's Secret Bunker | BBC Timestamp

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[@fredfonebone5108]

I’d settle for a BBC graphic designer who knew the Greek alphabet.

[@kittymervine6115]

her enthusiasm is infectious. I wish more museum workers and educators were not afraid to show thier delight in art and history. Less "I am the stuffy expert." She is "Nothing makes me happier than sharing with you my joy!"

[@PRH123]

She may be a bit less vivacious on a regular workday without tv cameras :)

[@Ulexcool]

Dont fool yourself, she acts like a crazy person. Look at her crazy eyes.

[@bradbutcher3984]

She showed nothing of substance. No evidence. I can make up scenarios all day.

[@bradbutcher3984]

Many artworks have been copied. This is just some lady saying Leonardo did this in a hidden room. But it has a window. Not many hidden, secret rooms have windows. 😂

[@georgie5700]

You are infectious. We all are infectious. Infectious is the new word. Long live the infectious

[@PaulaZF]

I last visited this chapel in 1972, before they discovered the hiding spot. How fascinating. The chapel is amazing as is all of Florence and its art.

[@ukestudio3002]

Sister Wendy Beckett used to present Art history with enthusiasm like this on PBS . Great series. Rhanks fornthis video.

[@helenamcginty4920]

She was so manufactured though. Nuns out of the convent do tend to go a bit OTT. Our school trips showed us grown women behaving like children. But in old fashioned costumes and veils. And put them near a man and many went all 'girly'. Sad and puzzling to us schoolgirls.

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

Enthusiasm, yes, accurate knowledge of the works she discussed, no. She decided she knew what the artist had in mind for every painting she talked about, but it was obvious to me, if no one else, that it was mostly in her head, and not what the artist was thinking. I used to have fierce arguments with some guy named Lane, back when she was on. I seriously dislike people who aren't artists, claiming to know what an artist they never met meant to represent...how could someone without particular experiences in life explain those experiences? Seems unlikely.

[@tommoncrieff1154]

It was bought from the BBC, who also produced this. But there’s very little now on the BBC on European history and art, it’s more diverse now.

[@daniadejonghe4980]

I saw this chapel a number of years ago. I think it is actually the saddest place I have ever been. Magnificent and full of loss.

[@chefskiss6179]

Goosebumps. - Thank you for this.

[@TheWhore2culture]

Utterly fascinating, I has honestly only read about the cell/chamber,but,had no idea of the drawings.

[@juliebeers1960]

This is breathtaking!

[@davidmckinley5343]

How in the world were people walking by that window for 400 years and nobody knew about the room? Was the window blocked off and the room sealed?

[@ChrisC-ei2kc]

Fools will believe this fraud in the making.

[@jujutrini8412]

It might not have been there at the time.

[@mariaelenaloveslove]

Most treasures or cache location r kept top secret 4 quite a long time 4 various reasons

[@josephcollins6033]

@@jujutrini8412 HI, why was he hiding? I never knew this.

[@wendycrawford1792]

@@josephcollins6033 I assume that you didn’t watch the whole brief clip. The famous and wealthy Medici family had commissioned Michelangelo to crest master pieces of art. The city of Florence rose up against this powerful family. Michelangelo went along with the people of Florence and hid away in a secret room for 3 months. I don’t know any more than that. Cheers.

[@Dalia-RuthHalperin]

In 1984-5 I was in San Lorenzo. I suddenly recognised the renowned art historian Gombrich escorted to the door .. followed begged the guard to let me in being an art student… he did !! Although the astonished side glances I got it was worth every moment.. and it was only a few moments before I was asked to leave…

[@stonew1927]

I visited Florence and this basilica in June 2024. It houses the tombs of many luminaries. It's an amazing place!

[@CrowSkeleton]

I didn't even know Michlangelo had a bunker, that's awesome. In his place I would probably have drawn a landscape to pretend I was outdoors, but he was probably sneaking out at night for supplies so he might have sat in a public/Medici garden then, right under their noses.

[@charlesw9875]

The night and day interpretation is very insightful.

[@penneyburgess5431]

Thank you. Florence has always been on the list.

[@Thewonderingminds]

UNBELEAVABLE !!!!

[@Exiledk]

Or maybe even.... unbelievable. Spellchecker is your friend.

[@Thewonderingminds]

@@Exiledk All people are born with set qualities, you know that. And in the rush of time, all such qualities stand out.

[@mclare71]

I just cried the entire time for their gorgeous ENTHUSIASM! Beyond the earth shattering art and that ROOM, their sheer joy was even more astounding. Because we just don’t see that in humans anymore.

[@tommoncrieff1154]

Don’t despair, it’s more common than you think.

[@ralphieboy9596]

Michelangelo was touched by something extraordinary, plain and simple !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@michellecarey583]

This was so awesome!

[@craiglowensen5468]

That was really cool. And in my humble opinion, these drawings were indeed made by him. The style is identical.

[@polemius01]

I love that chapel. Thanks for this video!

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You're welcome, we're glad you enjoyed it!

[@eveburdettequinn9562]

Wow Wow Wow….I love their excitement… Incredible.

[@vice4134]

Wow Dr. Monica Bietti is beautiful and she has a great taste in art.

[@JohnMacFergus-oz5cp]

There are great lessons in even a moment of art and it's relationship humanity.

[@amusicment4829]

Wowowow!!❤how incredibly moving 😢

[@ericgen1231]

A "Secret Bunker" that has a window that no one could find for centuries. Heavy sigh 🙄😴😒

[@stonew1927]

Keep in mind that these buildings have been redesigned across the centuries. It's possible that the window was added more recently.

[@mn4169]

so glad she talks about the Medici. Still Michelangelo saw where the wind blew and in some ways he misjudged the Medici.

[@jameswoodard4304]

That is simply amazing!

[@badger519]

That IS incredible!!!❤

[@sirjohng1]

He is one of those 'special' people who appear in history and change the world in magnificent ways. Like Nikola Tesla, Einstein, Churchill, Alexander Fleming (antibiotics), Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen (x-rays) and so on.

[@thomasbernecky2078]

How wonderful!

[@sharonstuhlmiller1757]

Gave me goosebumps!

[@MellowWind]

Hmmm. Not sure I'm 100% convinced. I'd like to see more footage of those drawings...

[@mattbray_studio]

i'm with you, seems a little off to me, particularly the choice to create a 'best of michelangelo' down there

[@GT_Racer347]

Amazing 👌🏼

[@corettaevans3970]

He expresses in his drawing what was really happening in the real world. I believe

[@milootje007]

It's got a window to the street, nobody could find it? Really?....

[@opera93]

Thanks, interesting…

[@dbdb6536]

Amazing

[@MinnesotaBeekeeper]

A highschool classmate of mine was let in this basement chamber in the 80s by a friendly guard. She was blown away as pretty much no one knew it was there. Finally I get to see it. Amazing. Thank you Gigi!

[@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc]

Yea, right, no one found it til now. Baloney, and he definitely didn't do those rubbish drawings. Maybe your friend did them.

[@scottzema3103]

Just outstanding. Of course. But you knew that.

[@cchemmes-seeseeart3948]

Wow. He was terrified for his life, hiding. I can relate

[@jdos5643]

Why was he tho?

[@lmc2375]

​@@jdos5643Bc he went against the Medici family, joining Florence in turning on them - he the turned from friend to foe. Once they regained their power, no more love for Michaelangelo.

[@marilynnusbaum7564]

Wow…Italy ‼️❤️❤️❤️

[@corettaevans3970]

Michelangelo artwork expression is phenomenal! Not sure about his bunker. Was he hiding behind the scene?

[@jdos5643]

Yeah sadly just like today the past also dealt with political division and turmoil.

[@JenniferShell]

How can you visit this room? There was some talk about it being open to the public in 2024 but there is no info about it.

[@GodzHarleyGirlStudio]

*FYI ROOM STARTS AT **3:00*

[@nelsonx5326]

That is amazing.

[@cnon.]

You're telling me a room with a window goes undiscovered for 400 years? What?

[@jeno264]

Wow!!

[@prakkari]

Wouldn’t he have been a bit more thorough than throwing off a few quick sketches of things he’d already done if he was locked up in there for months? This he could have done in a day or less. Is it likely that he had bragged about these rough sketches in his memoirs, the perfectionist he was? I think the authenticity of this is debatable to say the least.

[@ITcanB]

I agree if he was in there for 3 months the walls would have been covered with drawings over drawings ❤

[@prakkari]

@@ITcanB It’s pretty typical in Catholic culture to conjure up attractions for financial gains. They even claim they have the house of the virgin Mary in Loreto, saying it flew from Nazareth (with a couple of stopovers) to Loreto. That’s not the most absurd claim. Everything goes if it makes a dime. ;)

[@jilllangman9343]

Are you kidding? He was hiding for his life! Terrified. Not lying around wondering what to do next.

[@zaxmaxlax]

Exatcly. Why would he sketch things he already done years ago? Also, nobody tried to look for him literally in the basement 😂

[@prakkari]

@@zaxmaxlax Reading about this “Grotto” you find out that this is just assumed to be the place mentioned in his bio. Nobody had any idea where it was until they supposedly stumbled upon this. The proof? There are these sketches on the walls. I find this all very suspect.

[@omegaplumbing]

Im at a point now in my life now after 2020 Im thinking "Is this just made up?"

[@lyndarainey3048]

I can't accuse this of being awe inspiring.

[@WhirledPublishing]

Michelango was in hiding - just as David had been in hiding - except David was hiding in the wilderness - as a teen - becoming emaciated while hiding from King Saul

[@evelynzlon9492]

I have my theory about the Revelations prophesy about a diabolical seven-headed sea-beast whom Michael and his angels defeat in spiritual warfare. Leonardo da Vinci is one head of the beast. Present tense. He's virtually immortal because he's not really human. He only looks it. And the Mona Lisa is the image of the beast. However Michelangelo literally spells "Michael and his angels" right out for you. You can't miss it. Both da Vinci and Michelangelo were great Italian artists. Da Vinci was a friend to the Medici bureaucracy and Michelangelo ended up being their enemy. I can't remember if Michael and his angels precisely defeat the beast, the dragon who appointed him, or what. But you know...

[@PecanRanch]

Perhaps forgotten is a better description, not lost.

[@paolomasone3754]

Fascinating. Glad to see this, too bad we only got a very brief glimpse of the drawings.... and too much of some wildly gesticulating "reporter"

[@liammcooper]

sorry guys, i put those there. i was a lil buzzed

[@punkinhoot]

If that were true, the drawings would be stick men,🤡🤡🤡

[@martijnkeisers5900]

It's de ME di ci, not de me DI ci..😂

[@jaydee5022]

As pronounced by Monica.

[@MurderBong]

Thanks Hermione..

[@madnessintomagic]

Okay, she is fabulous...

[@Calligraphybooster]

Remember that the cameraman always survives😁

[@GT-nh5zg]

I believe its his artwork down there. In despair and fear one cannot be perfect. This could be his artwork while he thought he was going to be killed. Possibly in darkness as well since someone might notice when the windows are open and maybe in the day it was closed almost entirely. With little tools ad materials he could have used anything he could salvage to sketch those. Most of his artwork are sculptures and his drawings are his secondary.

[@cinemaipswich4636]

Mick was never in a hurry, and he famously failed to finish some of his works. Perhaps it was a labour dispute, I don't know. Mick Simoni was the artist's artist. Leo DaVinci was more of a designer of weapons, war machines and devices, although a great artist also.

[@joannejohnson7006]

How exciting

[@darklingeraeld-ridge7946]

As said, they were found in the 70’s, so nothing new here. I went down there in 1990, wanting to believe. But in truth, the drawings are full of weaknesses you don’t see in his work elsewhere.

[@aimeeinkling]

Agreed.

[@billgreen1861]

Perhaps, because it was too dark inside the bunker, maybe even lit by one tiny candle. Have you thought of that ?

[@aimeeinkling]

@@billgreen1861 A person of that time would have likely been familiar with drawing in low light. The person we're talking about was one of the greatest masters of all time. He would have seen the flaws in his own work once the sun came through that little window. If we can, he surely would have.

[@MellowWind]

Yeah, I'm not convinced yet.

[@darklingeraeld-ridge7946]

@@billgreen1861 Of course, and all the other extenuating circumstances. It isn’t so much the weaknesses in the depictions, as in the ‘hand’ which is without fail elsewhere, while weak and even crude here. He was also a Neo- Platonist - even his ‘unfinished’ work is left without these kinds of deep flaws evident. And remember, he had bad light, was often in pain, working on a curved surface and in the unforgiving medium of fresco on the Sistine ceiling.

I`m sorry but she didn`t speak at all about the technique of those drawings. It looks like charcoal. How did charcoal resist on a dry wall for 5 centuries? I was an Art student for 14 years, and I`ve done drawings in charcoal on paper. Without some kind of fixative spray it`s just dust, easy to blow away. I also paint al fresco technique, and if it would have been a wet wall of lime and the drawings would have been painted in the fresh plaster, yes they could have lasted this long. But most of all we cannont recognize in these sketches the genius master in drawing and anatomy, that Michelangelo was.

[@MrMjolnir69]

Exactly. I live here. It's 90% infuriating. Amateur 'enthusiasm' carries the day so the uninitiated come away thinking how knowledgeable how passionate etc grrrr when every fricking artist is desperately depressed 90% of the time and only? the Works drag us out of it. -which of course, the Tour Guides never grasp. Godspeed.

[@mcdaddy2011]

Michelangelo used a permanent marker. In middle Italian the term is sharpie-el-fresco. That’s how it survived so well 🧐

[@norakonstantinopoulos5924]

These drawings were not made by the great Michelangelo

[@georgie5700]

Utter nonsense. A secret chamber with a window to the streets. And charcoal drawings surviving for 500 years. Over pristine 500 yrs old walls. People are so gullible these days

[@RocLobo358]

I would assume it is magnesium or silverpoint

[@mb-py4wh]

I love Monica's voice... she should do voice overs for cartoons

[@MrMjolnir69]

As usual mispronounced. MICK. not MIKE. MEDitchy.. Not MedEEEchee. So boring

[@1midnightfish]

I was literally shouting that at my screen.... it HURTS

[@helenamcginty4920]

Ever heard of pedantry? Im a bit of a grammar pedant but do try, not always sucessfully, not to comment as often it seems so "look at me I am better educated than yow." (Uk comedy reference)

[@1midnightfish]

@@helenamcginty4920 Ever heard of people - particularly highly educated people who speak in public for a living - making at least an effort to pronounce foreign words properly? Particularly the name of one of the world's best-known artists, whose work is currently being discussed.

[@donlimoncelli6108]

Virtually no one today pronounces modern words the way they were originally pronounced. We say "butter" but the Greeks say "boutyra" (bou = voo, from where we get "bos" and "Bossy," meaning cow, and tyra = tee-rah, which meant "swelling or hardening" to the ancient Greeks and which they use today to mean "cheese"). They put them together and "boutyra," pronounced "VOO-tee-rah" in modern Greek became our modern "butter." Literally cow cheese. The Romans originally pronounced Cicero "Tsee-Tseh-Ro" which later became "Kee-Keh-Ro" and which later scholars in the middle ages pronounced "See-Seh-Ro." We changed the pronunciation to "Siss-eh-ro." Cicero. "Pisc," pronounced "pish" in ancient times, became the astrological sign Pisces. It is "pez" in Spanish, "fisk" in Swedish, "pesca" in Italian, "poisson" in French and "fisch" in German. It became the root for "bishop" because of the fish-looking hat they wore, and "vescovo" for bishop in Italian and is the root of "Episcopalian" because the church fathers are bishops, not the Pope. Languages and pronunciations change. It's one of the most fascinating aspects of language. It helps scholars decipher ancient scripts and reveals how ancient languages were pronounced.

[@1midnightfish]

@donlimoncelli6108 The fact that you had to make such an example demonstrates that this is in fact an issue. Greek and English are literally different languages, while "Medici" and "Michelangelo" are proper names that do not have a translated equivalent in other languages - so while it is indeed not illegal to mispronounce anything, it is ignorant and embarrassing for an expert to routinely mispronounce words he presumably uses a lot in the course of his work. There is also a more specific issue here, that of anglicising the pronunciation of non-English words. With the dominant role the English language plays in the world, there is something colonial about English speakers not making *any effort whatsoever* to pronounce foreign terminology in a way approximating the actual pronunciation, and I think that's what got so many people fired up in this thread... So I would like to thank you all for the demonstration of anglophone entitlement.

[@MultiFarmguy]

Dude, take a chill pill!

[@lidijabirsa7768]

👍

[@georgealderson4424]

Exactly! I wonder what he's like when he is excited!

[@lidijabirsa7768]

@@georgealderson4424 I wouldn't even want to see that! 😁

[@georgealderson4424]

@@lidijabirsa7768Haha! He'd probably explode!

[@edwinharrison5992]

In his time they called him Devine....one look at any piece of his work explains why

[@AroundTheWorldWithEase]

I should have become an archeologist. After Indiana Jones I wanted to, but for some reason the 10 yr old me thought everything had been found.

[@BBCTimestamp]

It's never too late, and there's still so much history out there to be discovered!

[@yelinmanu7204]

Very nice woman like the Artist❤😊

[@Umanflyumanfly]

This is nothing compared to the Storehouse the Vatican has and will not permit to even discuss.

[@deborahpondermance2795]

Interesting video, but I really wish that producers and hosts of programs on Italian art would pronounce “Medici” correctly.

[@brucetominello7440]

British think they know how to pronounce but…

[@LegendaryInfortainment]

Who were his true friends and champions, that bore his trust? Lost now in time.

[@enviropediaxr6007]

That host keeps on trying to draw attention back to himself and is interrupting the curator/museum director at her best moments with this frantic, distractive energy that erodes the magnitude of those moments.

[@deborahpondermance2795]

Yes! Why have an expert as a guest if you don’t give her a chance to share her expertise?

[@therealvlad505]

She isnt giving much details. So I understand his frustration at her gleefully empty words.

[@or6144]

Wasn't paid much so he's making the most of his 15mins.

[@voraciousreader3341]

Dude is so over-the-top…why can’t he just speak, instead of using those volcanic gestures?? He probably frightened the poor woman!

[@CCoburn3]

How could they have seen a door, but never opened it? How can they have seen a window, but never looked into it? Something about their story is fishy.

[@asynchronicity]

All your conspiracy are belong to us.

[@CCoburn3]

@ Huh?

[@yovankaemzita3785]

❤❤❤

[@michaeljohnangel6359]

I wish the British would learn how to pronounce "Medici" correctly. It's MED-ee-chee. The accent is on the first syllable.

[@1midnightfish]

Thank you, that honestly hurts my ears every time I hear it... only reason I'm in this comment section!

[@Lex_Lugar]

Few comments above says it’s ME-dee-chee. Seems to be a common issue.

[@helenamcginty4920]

Each country mispronounces other languages. The French call London, Londres. The English call Deutchland, Germany. The U S Americans mispronounce Iraq and Iran. I find mispronounciations of English endearing. I live in Spain and always have to correct myself with odd words like, ironically, difícil. The English stress being on the 1st syllable.😂

[@1midnightfish]

@@helenamcginty4920 False equivalence. Londres and Germany are not mispronounced words: these are alternative names for cities and countries. Other examples are the English Rome and Florence for Roma and Firenze. Some languages also have alternative names for some fictional characters and real people from history, but the Medici family (and Michelangelo) don't have an English equivalent, and someone who is as highly educated in the subject as this guy should really make the effort to approximate the actual pronunciation of these names.

[@michaeljohnangel6359]

@@helenamcginty4920 The English call Livorno Leghorn, the Italians call Paris Parigi, and the Americans mispronouce almost everything (remember Oscar Wilde's comment). One really needs scholars and teachers to pronounce things properly, though, don't you think? I've lived in Italy for 35 years and am a director of an art academy in Florence-it's important to teach people the correct pronunciations of names and words.

[@davidepperson2376]

So, has the authenticity been established?

[@345mrse]

Just believe. It’s on TV after all.

[@regularguy8592]

simply amazing! that every youtube viewer is an art expert smh

[@SN-sz7kw]

My thoughts as well. 😂

[@TheEudaemonicPlague]

I don't see anyone claiming to be an art expert, only you making vague accusations at people you don't know. Idiotic much?

[@RydenStone-s8w]

❤

[@lunes-1]

👍🏾

[@mariapilarme]

He didn’t have paper?

[@charlotteowens4644]

Hidden not lost.

[@Martin-pb7ts]

Yes, because when you lost your car keys and searched and eventually found them you totally said: "Ah they were just hidden."

[@judithlewis9634]

Who brought him food and water? How did he clean himself? Someone knew where he was.

[@PRH123]

Indeed. Has someone really wanted to find him, a modicum of effort would have been all that was required.

[@nelsonx5326]

He said bathing was unhealthy.

[@jdos5643]

@@nelsonx5326no he didn’t.

[@lakshmanankomathmanalath]

😍

[@CUMBICA1970]

I mean it's pronounced with a stress on ME-dici... Though I'm not Italian there are zillions of Italian immigrants in my country an lots and lots of Medicis. Even one of our presidents was one Medici haha.

[@Emy53]

Did the artist actually leave those interpretations of his work, or were they made up by these art enthusiasts...

[@aliveandkicking1977]

👍🖖

[@PetaWilliams-j3u]

She is adorable

[@annettepayne822]

His hair is exquisite

[@baggboy1]

I think the woman is adorable!

[@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc]

Lies. Those drawings are crap. He didn't do them.

[@Alloneword-cp2xw]

You know how?

[@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc]

@Alloneword-cp2xw by the god-awful technique

[@sophiafakevirus-ro8cc]

@Alloneword-cp2xw and you are not telling me that room was never found til recently

[@Wilkins_Micawber]

Where in the world is the last place your enemy will look to find you. Hmmmmm……. In their basement and under their very noses of course.

[@stevenstreets695]

Have to laugh... It looks like the rooms of the art college rooming house i managed. Great stuff i hated to paint over with the Kilz. Fresh pallet for next gifted guest.

[@leonardodalongisland]

As for this room; What is the purpose of keeping it from the public? "Hey, we've gto a newly-found work of art, but we're not showing it to anyone." That's just ridiculous and, no individual or group has the right to hid/keep history from the public. OPEN THE DOOR TO ALL!!!!!

[@commonwunder]

No, later additions... definitely not the work of ol'Mikey.

[@josephsf2452]

How and who fed him? Where did he go the bathroom?

[@matthewhiggins2699]

Ugh - five minutes of gushing and frantic orchestration. The producers clearly didn't think a calm discussion of the art was enough.

[@LordDustinDeWynd]

"Long lost"? If nobody knew about them, they weren't lost, were they? They simply hadn't been discovered yet. (...smh...)

[@martyden9006]

they are correct that it's "lost", since the people who knew about it already died centuries ago so it's been lost in reference to them.

[@joeswampdawghenry]

I must confess... I did zee drawings while drunk on chianti and lost in zee building.. Forgive me for zee ruse

[@sergiolobato1798]

At a glance these wall renderings dont come close to Michealangelo's rendering skill level. just look at his drawins amd compair them. These wall studies though competant, but not convincing. IMHO.