BCM AR15 9200 rounds with no oil or cleaning!

[@callhoonrepublican]

When you hit 10,000 send it off to School of the American Rifle. Let him gauge everything, see how much it's worn.

[@code_red7744]

This is what I want to see…

[@Joseph_Hamilton]

Yesssss!!!!!

[@tyler1768]

Then ten thousand more rounds

[@armorers_wrench]

Bingo, do this.

[@thomasschneeberger7661]

What a great idea!👍

[@connorburnes7697]

One you hit 10K you should send this to school of the American rifle for analysis.

[@tomlee6263]

Great idea!

[@dravenmcgee3188]

I 2nd this

[@indymusick]

Was just about to comment the same thing

[@clutchcargo1239]

Lol, great idea.

[@nelhead4807]

I agree that would be awesome

[@PJ_Perry]

A testament to federal ammo ..and DI but also a testament to BCM ..not every manufacturer puts out rifles that run that hard

[@donwyoming1936]

I really like Federal & Winchester 5.56 ammo. Most of it burns extremely clean. It's still impressive he's gone 9200 rounds with no lube.

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

@@donwyoming1936new Winchester 556 is just nato ammo since they now have the contract. Old Winchester white box 556 was extremely filthy garbage

[@stevenabshire]

Have School of the American Rifle do a deep dive and inspect it.

[@Thisisoscar_]

Nah, Ill take it though

[@GunFighterConcealment]

Hell yah good idea

[@Logjammer69]

Lmfao🤡🤡

[@charlesmullins3238]

I remember when you started this. Man time is absolutely flyin by.

[@newdefsys]

In the last five years, I've been married, divorced and moved cross country.😂

[@armstrong2052]

​@@newdefsysdamn, well when u put it like that. 😂😅

[@foxtrotunit1269]

I new to this, what rifle is this? I know it's a BCM but which one?

[@SteveO...]

Great follow up video. BCM is definitely the Glock of ARs. Tools built to last. Thk you👍

[@paraAA82]

Yes they are!!

[@BlowinLoud8799]

Yup, and Sionics.

[@thenowandaway1]

I am so old, I remember when you started this....

[@Boon20]

Im so old i remember the scar vs acr 😂

[@Almost_Made_It]

This is better knowledge than any of the burndown videos. Though I enjoy those too

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

Burndown videos arent made by shills though 😂

[@fujimi715]

this is more practical. In real life use you arent gonna just dump 20 mags back to back full auto, even if its a really heavy fire fight.

[@TheStig505]

​@@boygonewhoopdataZZlet's be real pretty much all of these guys are except Paul RIP

[@MagicPrepper]

This reminds me of the "Filthy 14" which is a BCM test rifle that was at 31,165 rounds back in 2010. I wonder what its round count is now? Thanks for sharing the testing results here.

[@30wrdy]

It was over 43k per the last report. Only bummer about that rifle is I feel like Pat Rogers (RIP) could have provided more detail concerning parts replacement.

[@Militaryarmschannel]

That was a great series. The rifle was cleaned and parts were replaced as they wore out though. This series focuses on how long the rifle can go with zero maintenance. Combined, the Filthy 14 and this rifle show a pretty impressive picture of BCM rifle and the DI system in general.

[@MagicPrepper]

@Militaryarmschannel that's crazy that this rifle has made it to 9200 rounds without needing an extractor, springs or gas rings replaced. Really impressive.

[@10mikemike89]

Im sure those rings are shot.​@@MagicPrepper

[@armorers_wrench]

@@MagicPrepper A lot of people replace components just because they think they should or because the internet tells them to rather than because its actually needed. For example, people will tell you that you need to replace the springs in Glocks every so many thousand rounds. But there is a Glock 17 on display in Glock's Austrian factory with a certificate from the Hirtenberger company certifying that the gun was fired over 348,000 rounds and only had the recoil and firing pin springs replaced *once*. Eventually at 348,000 rounds of "endurance firing" the barrel cracked. The certificate on the pistol says if the barrel was replaced the gun would continue to function perfectly.

[@SquirrelsLiveMusic]

I have been beating on a BCM upper for over ten years. Beyond reliable.

[@type_s_tyler7547]

Once you hit 10k, you should do a detailed video on deep cleaning that thing

[@WeekendMarksmanNCA]

I second this

[@Clodknocker]

Or to failure...then clean

[@WeekendMarksmanNCA]

@@Clodknocker you’re right, that’s what he’s going to do, and it’s pretty cool.

[@BenDover-qj5mt]

Please do this. I'm very interested to see the results.

[@jmmartin7766]

edit

[@reggiemartin4505]

Elegantly simple proof that AR guys are NOT wrong for the faith we have in our DI rifles. A properly built rifle will run forever especially if regularly serviced.

[@jmmartin7766]

"Oh, this oil bath is going to feel sooo good!" - C-3PO, SW: ANH & MAC's Bravo Co.

[@mikenstien1861]

Great test I love it. But how about before you cut up the barrel, do the accuracy test with the dirty barrel, then clean up the barrel and do the accuracy test again? Might make for some interesting results. 😊

[@Clutch_Kick187]

I broke the 20k round mark thru my BCM rifle with ELW - BFH, Barrel..(enhanced light weight/tapered & Hammer Forged).. The upper was purchased in 2015 and has never been "cleaned" only oil added.. And I think 3 times, I took the bcg out and wiped it with a microfiber cloth quickly.. My literal goal was to put 20k rounds thru a rifle and see if it was 100% without breaking anything.. It passed the test and is gonna keep going.. until failure of some sort.. In 20k rounds it has only had 3 malfunctions, all 3 came from the same box of ammo.. BCM rifles are a bargain for the quality of hammer your getting..

[@7.62flavorsoffreedom2]

What do the gas rings and the groups look like?

[@thalo215]

I'd love to see a detailed video of the cleaning process and just how much crap is inside it. I also think that you should invite the BCM guys out for that video. It would be a cool collaboration.

[@natewesselink]

Was wondering when we would see another one of these, it's definitely an extreme test of endurance but shows just how much of the old talk about DI is BS and shows that a proper in spec AR will take a lickin and keep on tickin.

[@Vanalos]

To be fair, it probably didn't see a lot of the elements, just carbon and temperature. Not much dirt and such.

[@nextechsolutions5955]

@@Vanalos Good point. And to be honest, the original point of moving to a piston was for high speed units running their guns on full auto all the time.

[@chriscarnes87]

It’s not bs, there is still merit behind it. It just depends on the quality of the firearm and the parts. Can a quality AR DI power through? Yes Obviously, but so will a piston and it will run longer and cleaner. That is the whole point and intention behind a piston operating system. Which is exactly why every modern rifle outside the AR-15 is piston. Just look at what’s been reintroduced and is popular now….. The AR-180 platform which is piston.

[@peachfuds]

BCM- The Toyota Tacoma of the AR15 world.

[@ShawnL61189]

BCM is phenomenal.

[@peachfuds]

Piston AR15s solve 2 problems by creating 5 more. DI is king.

[@chriscarnes87]

If so then why is the “DI” AR-15 platform pretty much being replaced by the AR-180 platform? Which is also designed by Eugene Stoner, and is only gaining in popularity. And in terms of popularity (meaning the vast majority of all gas operated rifles), a piston opening system is better.

[@jimmyjunk3093]

@@chriscarnes87 Depends on what you mean by "better." They're easier to clean and maintain, but are objectively worse in adverse environments. Same thing with the AR v. AK debate. AKs suck in mud. They get 1 shot then become bolt-action, but a DI AR will work flawlessly even when covered in mud with the dust cover open. DI ARs are lighter, more reliable in adverse conditions, but take quite a bit more work to clean, and will require cleaning more frequently which is not something easily overlooked by something like the Military Budget Committee. A piston system could go to 9200 rounds without a hitch.

[@mattmurphy7030]

@@chriscarnes87the main draw of the AR180 is the lack of a buffer

[@chriscarnes87]

@@jimmyjunk3093 I wasn’t meaning “better” in terms of best, just that it’s the more popular operating systems for gas rifles. The DI AR being a tight tolerance “sealed” system is only reliable as long as stuff doesn’t get in the action. Which will stop it in its tracks. Is it harder for things to get in? Absolutely yes….But it’s also harder to get the stuff out (without disassembling and generally flushing it out). The AK is generally the opposite depending on the situation. There is a give and take with both systems.

[@jimmyjunk3093]

@@chriscarnes87 I was mainly referring to the 'self-clearing/cleaning,' for the lack of a better term, effect of DI ARs. As the gasses are vented out of the bolt carrier they blast away debris from the ejection port. Piston ARs will stumble where DIs won't. Of course, as you said, there's a give and take. Don't try to shoot a DI AR underwater for example... And AKs are much more resistant to seizing up due to freezing.

[@ethan5.56]

That's awesome. Definitely a testament to BCM quality. She may have slowed down a little but she's still kicking! Great video

[@jbloun911]

It's a he and he'll still put holes in you

[@CthonicSoulChicken]

Definitely. I had M4's seize up worse than this with far fewer rounds. Shooting with a can, but still--mine turned into a bolt gun. This did NOT.

[@darinwoody5542]

Really happy with my BCM. I Sure don't have this many rounds through it.

[@noveske.2236]

their QC has suffered in recent years with the amount of guns they're putting out increasing. They seem to have fixed that mostly.

[@darinwoody5542]

​@@noveske.2236 There for a while every time I tried to look up a price I saw "Out of stock". I had to go with a different company for my wife's rifle.

[@stripedbassnut]

You should give this rifle to SOTAR and have them biopsy it. It would give ALOT of great info!

[@Logjammer69]

Lmfao🤡

[@stripedbassnut]

@@Logjammer69 what's so funny?

[@Gringo111R]

BCM continues to be the brand I recommend to friends for their first AR-15 purchase even if used. Their QC has been consistent over the years and they clearly know what they're doing.

[@ericlee6661]

Agree, send it off to SOTR for a collab!

[@justinwood3054]

Very impressive. Love my BCM.

[@allenneva5213]

This goes to show that the BCM is an exceptionally well-made rifle. Well gassed

[@johnkennedy1506]

This has been a great MAC series!

[@Jakeamura]

I’ve always bought complete BCM uppers for my AR builds. You really can’t go wrong!

[@tylernestor2431]

An AR-15 that you can treat like a middle eastern's AK. Nice.

[@fieldy-8008]

After you send it to SOTAR and let him do a thorough inspection and video on it

[@Cloture.q]

I was looking forward to seeing the results of this when I was in college. I’ve since graduated, moved across the country, got married, created humans, and now showing those humans these videos. Nice slow play.

[@austinkennard6896]

I was in high school when he started this, an since have graduated. An now in college also in the military

[@brianc3100]

I like the "send it off to SOTAR" idea. I would like to add convert it to select fire and do a "burn down" with it or auction it through Fanathem

[@chriswalsh9989]

Testament to the system id say every bit as much a testament to BCM as well!!

[@Kilroy300]

I have followed this test for the last five years… thank you for keeping up with it!

[@BenBartlow]

See if federal will send you a pallet of 223 and do this on a couple other rifles(budget like psa), would love to see how they compare. They likely won't eat this many rounds so shouldn't be as expensive at least :). You are the reason I bought a bcm upper

[@allenneva5213]

Garand Thumb had a PSA torture test of 5000 rounds if I am not mistaken. It ran, but the accuracy went to hell close to the end of the test.

[@fairlylocal607]

Shadzy, on X, has a PSA Sabre AR that he's run really hard to 10k rounds, still functioning.

[@newdefsys]

@@allenneva5213 Yes, I saw that video. But, I dont think MAC has done any accuracy testing on the BCM in a while, so who knows how bad it is.

[@mattmurphy7030]

@@newdefsysafter 10k rounds of semi auto? The barrel is fine

[@newdefsys]

@@mattmurphy7030 We shall see

[@DBCooper81]

BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO FOR 5 YRS

[@Pothole500]

Once you hit 10k you should send it to SOTAR for inspection.

[@awp97128]

You should have Chad from school of the American rifle on the rifle podcast

[@kdingo6596]

@@awp97128 podcast would be awesome!!!

[@hairydogstail]

Bloke at the range and Ian from forgotten weapons wished they had a forward assist when their FN FAL and HK91 got dirty and would not chamber like this BCM did.. Another win for the FA..

[@rlborger]

After 10,000 rounds, clean, inspect & send to School of the American Rifle for evaluation.

[@cameronnorton5898]

What a awesome video series. Good shit, MAC.

[@arlissyoung8899]

Send it to Chad at SOTAR.

[@X-ForceBro]

‼️🔥👍😎🎉 School of the American rifle for gauging to determine exact parts wearing out or steel inspect ‼️

[@johnbaptiste87]

Send to school of the American rifle at 10,000

[@dylanboling8638]

I have a BCM Standard upper on a blem PSA lower and have about 3,000rds through it and it’s had no malfunctions.

[@lkjh00on89]

This rifle is like an old friend at this point. Glad to see her again!

[@Hamzat22]

I cleaned my BCM after one mag. Now i feel stupid.

[@WarDaddy72]

Been watching when you started this test . I was living in Portage Indiana down the road when you started this test with the BCM. I am thankfully back home in Alabama and have been watching the entire series. I am very impressed and I knew the internal piston guns are just as good and or better than external piston gun like the Sig spear. Great work brother.Super interesting.

[@Truckinup266]

When you're done testing it send it my way 😂❤your educational content as always and look forward to 10,000!!

[@IsaiahChapter53isAboutJesus]

MAC, since you and Jason did all of this hard work, please consider what else can be examined and learned before doing anything else to it. Before cleaning it, maybe a stronger buffer spring would help a dirty AR run more efficiently. For example, test accuracy before and after cleaning. Maybe do a cleaning video on it, too. Many of us love to clean firearms and love to watch. Thank you!

[@stefanmolnapor910]

Charlotte county FL, sitting here with my BCM !! Woo hoo!

[@TomP-nw4wu]

Punta Gorda!

[@WeekendMarksmanNCA]

Wishing you all well out there.

[@Null_Null_Null]

Pasco County, FL! About 5 miles from the coast and we're good! BCM was on standby in case someone wanted to try and lift my generator 👀

[@TomP-nw4wu]

@@Null_Null_Null Z-Hills!

[@stefanmolnapor910]

@@WeekendMarksmanNCA Thank you, fortunately I and family dodged the bullet, a lot of less fortunate people here and across the US. Praying for them all.

[@panzerabwerkanone]

AK guys: "piston driven guns are better!" AR guys: "the AR15 is an in-line piston system"

[@fonzybrookestone727]

been waiting a long time for this follow up! thank you

[@Nyrlyat]

This series is the reason my AR is all BCM, except the for the stripped Aero lower.

[@FirstLast-ff7qx]

I went that route as well. Except i put a geissele enhanced bcg in it n use the free bcm one as a back up.

[@charleslowrey9309]

Got 3 BCM's Recce 14", a MK2 16" upper with a PVD BCG, MK2 buffer system, BA enhanced stripped lower with BCM parts, and a Geissele SSA-E trigger, 3rd is a BCM stripped Upper with a BCM 10" rail, BCM BCG and trigger, faxon .300 black out barrel, BA enhanced lower with Spikes lower parts kit and buffer tube, Geissele super 42 spring and H2 buffer. All my spare bolts, gas rings, extractors, and extractor spring kits, firing pins are BCM as well.

[@FirstLast-ff7qx]

@@charleslowrey9309 beautiful. I use the geissele super 42 system as well. No complaints

[@charleslowrey9309]

@@FirstLast-ff7qx I swapped back from the Geissele Super 42 in some of my AR's in favor of Sprinco springs and Spikes tungsten powder buffers. Have Larue 6.5 grendel, and a Car 816 A2 (piston driven) I prefer the Spikes and Sprinco combo in. Believe I have a few of the Geissele's S42's as spare parts that will likely wind up in future builds. Got a few ammo cans full of spare AR parts I have aquired over the years from swapping out parts. Same thing with Ak's, SCAR, BREN2, numerous pistols. Seldom do I leave anything stock. Always room for improvement. 🤣

[@FirstLast-ff7qx]

@@charleslowrey9309 i love it lol.

[@bazookawarren]

Poop where you eat! Fun drinking game! Every time Mac said it, take a drink!

[@FlyEaglesFly19111]

Great you have abused it... and it still works. I do field strip downs after 1000 with oiling. Now with 5k round I broke down my bolt and scrubed with a toothbrush. My PSA is reliable as much as I could ask for.

[@gerritzondag1585]

like others have said, send to SOTAR for analysis please!

[@Joseph_Hamilton]

Dude please send it to sotar!!!

[@pistolgrip44mag]

The best part about this video? The Trijicon VCOG. Have a 1-6 on my FN SCAR 17S. Best Optic for the job.

[@Bifistik]

School of the American rifle for sure

[@sirdanoman]

I ran 3000 rounds of lacquered 5.56 through my Colt when I got it as is out of the box. Ran fine other than 1 case extraction issue at the end. It was soooo gummed up from the lacquer. I was one of those dorks that thought ARs are inherently unreliable. That ended promptly.

[@scottmorgan133]

They were with those soft extractors. They switched to hardened ones and it made the rifle better.

[@seangerbick6357]

Had an old olimpic AR hated the lacquer ammo. Just was a cheap 450 ar 25 years ago

[@mghegotagun]

Of all things to be excited about at work on a friday

[@michaelfabian2401]

Finally! We need more testing on this specific BCM rifle than once a fucking YEAR..... Come on now! You even get FREE AMMO for it.... What in God's name is the damned hold up?!?

[@danclapper626]

How about you do the test then. Maybe he is busy, cut the guy some slack.

[@Vanalos]

OK, a DI system can do a lot. Now do it with a piston system...

[@arlissyoung8899]

Vanalos I left a long reply above. IMO he could have gotten a LWRC / LTM of each DI / Piston and done a side by side. Mac has always favored DI ARs so he does it with only a high end very pricy DI AR over a long time line.

[@suchopsmimic399]

​@@arlissyoung8899 dawg bcm is not high end and very pricy

[@Vanalos]

@@arlissyoung8899 I think he wants to prove that the DI is just as good as piston in terms of reliability under lifelike circumstances. I don't want to join that discussion, all I can say is my MR223 gets about as dirty as a bolt gun internally. The gas piston gets a lot of carbon buildup and I don't know at what point it'll fail. I don't think us consumers need to worry about such things.

[@jmmartin7766]

Isn't that what the US Marines are doing, as we speak? Kinda like that gorilla on those old Samsonite commercials 😏

[@mghegotagun]

​​​@@arlissyoung8899 Bcm is like the next step up from aero. Its not pricey or high end. It's reputation is solely their QC and reasonable price to the point buying any more expensive brand is exponentially harder to justify, such as Geissele, lwrc, kac, DD, h&k, sig, lmt and the list goes on. Bcm is quite literally just mil spec materials and standards in a rifle with few non-proprietary improvements.

[@davidpaulk785]

Would like to see you clean it and then shoot groups to see if the accuracy had degraded. I agree with the other commenter that said you should send it to SOTAR to be gauged. That would scratch every itch for us AR nerds.

[@robertstack3678]

This is also a testament to federal ammo.

[@leanit5756]

I hope that once the gun is carboned up to where it will longer function, that you do not clean it, but rather just spray it down with oil and see if you can get it working well again, and for how long.

[@TimGibson-o7g]

Damn, I'm sure glad I safed the extra couple hundred bucks and bought BCM instead going the "budget friendly" route. BUY ONCE, CRY ONCE! Especially if your buying it as a tool to protect your family and self. Seems like a no brainer to me.

[@michiganmafiamx5543]

I suspect SOLGW or Geissele might also approach this type of performance, but it would be interesting. I think SOLGW using Sprinco springs throughout their rifles might give BCM a good run for the money.

[@henrygonzalez360]

The Geissele Nano Weapon BCG might be better and the Geissele Raila are definitely better but also more expensive. I'd have to say about even dollar for dollar. I'd be great to see if SOLGW achieves that level in the next 5yrs.👍🏽

[@jweeks456]

Weigh it with carbon built up. Clean, then weigh again to see how much weight is pure carbon. Following this, I’d say collab with School of the American Rifle as others have stated.

[@01AceAlpha]

But wait MAC, AR’s need more care and maintenance and magic lubricants than any other rifle in order to be reliable!

[@Militaryarmschannel]

That's the rumor.

[@allenneva5213]

I like using those riflekuls for load development. They are great.

[@pinger5563]

I've been following this since you started. Would love to try this on a few of my personal complete builds. This still proves that the DI system is solid and can run even dirty. I would enjoy tearing that rifle apart and giving it a full cleaning.

[@burnyburnoutze2nd]

Something else that should be mentioned here is the point Tim switches from chambering with the bolt catch to using the cocking handle. For years, there were people that have said chambering with the cocking handle on an AR gives a bit of extra spring tension and can be useful in situations where pressing the bolt catch doesn't quite cut it. This is one of those situations: he didn't need to use the forward assist even ONCE while using the cocking handle vs the bolt catch.

[@dukecleve4008]

BCM BCGs for the Win!!

[@rustincohle730]

12:10, after the first shot, the bolt isn't fully closed but still fired next round, amazing!

[@irafowlerjr.7492]

Love this series, thanks

[@M1GarandSon]

In true MAC fashion, you should do your famous gauntlet test. Let's see how the AR-15 does against water, sand, dirt, and mud all at once. And other rifles for that matter. God Bless

[@julietlima5564]

So far, the best and most impressive long term endurance test has been the Ballistic Radio's SR-15 Mod 2 endurance. They put the rifle up to 20145 rounds in 5 months with no cleaning.

[@craesh1001]

At 10k send it to School of the American Rifle for a check up on all the specs and tolerances.

[@JeffHailstone-kt7qp]

Thank you so very much and in my opinion this is a badass torture test just to see what it will do I will be paying attention on this BCM absolutely fantastic and thank you and to all the two a community

[@desperado8605]

If your Drill Instructors ever see this they're going to be so disappointed lol. This amazes me

[@quinncunneen7845]

Once you hit 10k I would appreciate seeing an accuracy test, deep clean, clean accuracy test and then deciding what to do with the rifle such as replacing parts.

[@Jamieaus]

I think that this series highlights why a forward assist IS a good addition to the ar15.

[@joshuafrench1902]

I think BCM would want to put that on display somewhere.

[@FafthriechRalofson]

What an amazing result so far.

[@hensli]

8:50 I’ve used this for years while elk hunting on my suppressed .300WSM, very good design with the magnet and extendable arm!

[@ronaldckrausejr7762]

Saw a BCM 14 with those same exact specs. Saw it at a variation of a trade show. They showed the firing history of the weapon and also had video of all of it. Up past the nine thousand round point; never cleaned, and never oiled. One could tell by looking at it. At a later point in time they fully treated it to needed proper maintenance, and almost as good as new. My next weapon will be one of those BCM 14s

[@timmooney7528]

Pat Rogers used to write about a BCM they nicknamed Filthy 14. It was a loaner gun for training sessions, and was never cleaned. The difference was they kept it lubed with Slip 2000. I recall an article about it from 2012 where it had 44k rounds through it.

[@wldtrky38]

Awesome test, and testament to BCM. Ive been considering a 450 Bushmaster pistol upper from BCM. Cant beat the price and if it functioned anywhere near this well, SCORE !

[@thematrix248]

They went past 10,000 rounds ,if I remember correctly ,with a Colt 6920 without cleaning , it is here on youtube. He has a video of himself cleaning it .

[@thetobaccoguy1751]

This testing cycle is one of the big reasons I settled on a BCM Recce for my primary.

[@Private_Joe]

I miss the gauntlet videos of mac

[@henrygonzalez360]

Those were a great series.👍🏽

[@henrygonzalez360]

Those were a great series.👍🏽

[@henrygonzalez360]

Those were a great series.👍🏽

[@jeremywatson9129]

The vcog looks great on that rifle.

[@bgilton79]

I think it’s a testament to the rifles BCM builds.

[@coyotevigilant]

After the 10k rds, definitely do a good clean and check everything. But keep going as is.

[@JoeyInkwell]

This would also be a good application for the Springfield Lev-AR charging handle.

[@forcesolutions4154]

Pat Rogers with Filthy14 was also quite educational.

[@NeilGaede1]

The M-16 I was handed when I took an ROTC class lasted two rounds before it jammed. That was just the beginning of the horror of my introduction to this weapon system. Never could I get more than two or three rounds down range before it jammed again. My illusion of the iconic American assault rifle was shattered forever. I will never trust an AR platform after that experience.

[@blackcloudr1130]

10k cleaning change gas rings and buffer spring and run to another 10k or until you have a parts failure

[@hairydogstail]

Ejector, extractor and possibly other springs should be changed along with the barrel if muzzle and throat erosion are excessive..