Be careful with spiritual concepts

[@janinemelanie8391]

The spiritual community is so full of bypassing, toxic positivity and false transcendence. It’s important to call this stuff out and spiritual narcissism too

[@GudrunSilvestre]

I see it the same way!! Thanks!

[@sToNedRidER]

Well, slogans like non-attachment are practiced according to your level of spiritual maturity. If your identity is still with the body, attachments will be there, but gradually consciousness transcends the body consciousness. This means the identification is gone. And even though you do what is beneficial for the body, there is no attachment, no clinging to it. So what you are explaining, is the issue of not comprehending fully what attachment means. Since you have not transcended the identification, it is hard to comprehend fully what the masters meant

[@GudrunSilvestre]

I do know what you are saying. And with some things in life it works (temporarely at least), of course in times of initiations, meditation and deep connections, as well. But I don´t know anybody in my life (including me) who would be constantly in this space of full divine connection. Even if I look at Gurus, they are not unattached of everything. Because this is life about, to have our visions and dreams and live our nature, that includes the will to grow and to be who we are (the experiences our souls need and wish to make). So in this case it feels impossible to not having attachments and not even healthy. It´s a part of duality and if we are conscious about, it even can lead us to freedom. If we try hard though to detach, we force ourselves in order to be spiritual correct and spiritual mature. When we are ready to detach, it just can come naturally after we experienced wat we wanted to experience fully...But if you have another view, that´s fine, I know that there are not many people in the "spiritual world" that agree with me :-)

[@ThomasBuchwinkler487]

People are stupid. I was too. They always go from one extreme to the other. But yes, spirituality is a minefield of rabbit holes. with Paradigm and dogmata. It is a mental prison / logic. Even those who call themselves Guru´s are imprisoned with something and there Ego. Attachment is not something that is wrong, bad or evil. It is were you put in your focus and desire. People are want to have no attachment because of substance abuse Sugar, alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, TV, media manipulation, and drugs. To function and feel good, to fit and belong to society. I also went a long way go down this part to see in the end there was nothing wrong with my decisions. I was always told that in order to control me. People a so cut off from their owen emotions and feelings that they believe in these spiritual fairy tales. And everyone tells their own fairy tales. Because people are conditioned in a certain way. People run after Gurus because they want to belong. Because nobody want to face the shadow. Becasue if you compare it to the film Matrix, everyone is asleep. Even those who believe they live outside the Matrix. Because they also follow the oracle. So you can assume that nobody has a clue. As the saying goes, "Believing is knowing nothing." And you can also assume that there is nothing after death because nobody ever comes back. I have experienced three psychoses and I understand how people look at the world through their own filters. Yes, there is such a thing as intuition, where you see something happening. You try to prevent it and exactly what you don't want happens. That's called focus. You run after what you want to prevent, so to speak. And make it a reality. Regardless of whether you label it as something positive or negative. Energetic manifestation doesn't care how you see it or label it. You just manifest it. That's why it makes sense "what you think and feel is your reality" and what you say and what you act on makes it your reality". So wisdom. You can think as negatively as you want (whatever you lable ) as long as you don't say it to others or act on it. However, if you only think in hate then your actions will adapt accordingly. But no emotion is wrong, bad or evil, other people have made us believe that because they didn't want us to feel that way in order to control us. But it does not matter, when you learn to let go of your emotions again and again. Then you see you see through this matrix more frequently that were created around us, even those who believe they are enlightened and there conzept. 😋 Then you let go of everything. And you can concentrate on what you want again. Because you only live here once and people believe what they want to believe. Free will. Either you follow yourself or you run after the FRAME of others. 😋

[@GudrunSilvestre]

Perfectly said. Thank you! I totally agree. Also I experienced a deep „psychosis“ and saw that… tanks for this addition🦋💜🍀🙏

[@marcogaray8319]

You need to realize, eating and breathing are physiological needs, not attachment. The attachment we are talking about is emotional attachment. You can Love someone, but not be emotionally attached to them. I Love my ex, I still do after being separated for four years, but at some point I understood that couldn't live with her because she is toxic for me. It didn't really bother me because I am emotionally detached from people and things. I Love, but I am not emotionally attached. You need to work on your perspective about this, because you are misleading people. I don't even think you're doing any inner work. I say this because when you do your inner work, one of the first things one learns is about detachment from the illusion. You should bring me this video down, it is very deceiving. Much Love to you in hopes that you do the right thing.

[@Gerbyq]

Why is it deceiving or misleading? She's just saying that on a certain level we have attachments. English isn't her mother tongue as well so with a nuanced topic like this, its easy to use words that aren't the best ones to use for what she's trying to describe. And we're all on our own subjective journey with this stuff. Maybe she's been forcefully trying to control attachments in her live, trying to with will power get rid of them and she just had that AH HAH moment. We've all be guilty of that or something similar at some point in our lives. Trying to control ourselves with spiritual ideas, thinking we're making progress on our spiritual journey because some "enlightened" person said we shouldn't have any attachments. They're all just ideas and I think that is what she's pointing to. It's about YOUR relationship with attachments in your live. How do they effect you, why is that mechanism there, what has having attachments for biological reproductive/survival reasons done to us. Why do spiritual "master" tell us to look at all that. etc. And she's right that just trying to, again with force, not have attachments can be quite destructive, but we all need to learn that learning all these concepts about spirituality means nothing. It's all just ideas. I find looking at myself, that its all there. Complete detachments, because live is being seen for the light hearted experience that it is. But also complete attachment to my daughter etc. Its all good. It can all live together, you just observe it. No violence of thought trying to control it, is necessary. You pay really close attention to live, your self, your thoughts, with love and it all just changes.

[@GudrunSilvestre]

Thanks a lot, I think you totally got my point😊. And yes, I feel a bit limited with my English🐣

[@GudrunSilvestre]

Hm, thank you for your feedback. I do not feel to mislead people though. I rather think it would be misleading to tell people not to have attachments and be unauthentic. If you don’t have any attachments it’s great, I personally never met a person like that before✨