Tesla Wall Connector DIY Install for Less Than $40

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Bearded Tesla Guy

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@larryetzel9847
@larryetzel9847 2 жыл бұрын
You just saved me $300, not having to pay an electrician to do this 1 hr job. You're the best!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@brianbeasley7270
@brianbeasley7270 3 жыл бұрын
I did the exact same thing with my wall mount chargers. There are numerous code violations and issues which some have already been mentioned with this installation. 1) The code for the pigtail applied to the charger is that it is limited to 12" total length from the charger so it will work but it should have been shortened. (The reason for the code is that the circuit protection is in the unit, not the breaker (like a GFCI) and the code writers did not want a long cord that could potentially be easily cut. The reason the cord to the car can be long is that the unit is supplying the circuit protection in front of that and ground fault protection to that cord if it is cut or damaged. 2) The waterproof gland mentioned but not installed should have been installed for mechanical strain relief. It's nice when it also makes it waterproof to keep bugs and moisture out. 3) Tesla gives a very explicit torque specs for the tightening of the conductors and this is important to ensure it doesn't loosen up from expansion/contraction cycles. The "German torque spec" of "GuudNTite" should only be used with lots of experience. The amount of tightening required is usually higher than most users think and a torque wrench should actually be used. 4) The neutral conductor should have also been cut off and wire capped. The wire cap is important but it could then be electrical taped so the cap doesn't back off. 5) The jacket probably should not have been extended through the wire tie but that actually looks OK if it will fit. Unfortunately without the gland, this now becomes the primary mechanical strain relief and the individual conductors can end up with differential tension and weight on them (especially with the long cord). With only three conductors wire tied, there would have been less of a chance of this and the strain would have been transferred to the waterproof gland (not installed). 6) The Tesla unit should be provisioned (with the cell phone app) so that it is specified for a 50 amp breaker which is the correct breaker for a NEMA 14-50 outlet. The range pigtail used was a 50 Amp unit so that was a good choice (by default, this is the case with a NEMA 14-50 pigtail cord with the plug manufactured on). Bottom line is that this unit will (at least initially) will work as shown but it isn't all that safe and is prone to bug infestation and broken wires due to poor strain relief. The probability is low that the feed wire would be cut with a shovel or something but if it ever is, the user is going to be surprised as their outlet becomes a welder! Be safe and use a competent electrician if in doubt! Am I too picky? Perhaps but I have to live in the house where my unit is installed and 50 amp wires with poor or strain weakened connections can cause big fires!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@miami3863
@miami3863 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent write up!!! I was scrolling throw the comments searching for a post like yours. People are doing these pigtail installs all the time now and don’t realize anything you mentioned. In the slight (not likely) chance a fire is started. I wonder what the insurance is going to say with all the code violations.
@gabi01
@gabi01 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for writing this up. Watching the video and having worked with this stuff I could see these issues you described. Working with high power circuits is no joke. The fact that it looks to be working after connecting the wires doesn’t mean it will work after hundreds of hours of high power flowing trough. A mistake on a wire connection and your house will burn down in the middle of the night. Clickbait title on this video without letting watchers know how seriously this should be taken.
@michaelcrz1430
@michaelcrz1430 Жыл бұрын
@brianbeasley7270 Thanks for the info. You also mentioned this on another yt video that you cut the power cord to 1ft coming from the wall connector. Since installing and cutting the power cord to meet codes. How is it so far? Do you live it plugin at all times?
@brianbeasley7270
@brianbeasley7270 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelcrz1430 It worked fine for the entire time I used that setup. I made some wiring changes and when I did I converted over to hardwired on my wall unit. I did keep it plugged in at all times to prevent wear on the outlet. I still think it is a fine solution if there is a NEMA 14-50 outlet installed. If you have to install an entirely new circuit, I would probably now recommend just hardwire the Tesla unit.
@gchetail
@gchetail Жыл бұрын
This is a good solution as you can take the wall connector with you easily when you move home. Thanks for the video.
@Peter-rq4xn
@Peter-rq4xn 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this simple to follow! I debated going with a standard 240 outlet, but decided to just take the plunge and purchase the Wall Connector before delivery of our Model 3. Even though the initial 500 fee is steep, it really makes a difference and have no regrets.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea
@stevenchan6340
@stevenchan6340 2 жыл бұрын
That neutral wire just hanging there is super dangerous if it touches the hot wires. Also, the wall connector is suppose to be hardwired and against code to install it the way you did it. If you're going to go through this trouble, you might as well spend $50 more and swap out the breaker for a 60 amp breaker and run a 6 AWG wires and hardwire the thing like it's suppose to be done and get the full 48 amp charge capability. The wire run is already there for you to pull and the 14-50 junction box is already there to make the hardwired connection.
@samleehamlee
@samleehamlee Жыл бұрын
Smart and more versatile way to use the wall charger! Thank you for sharing this!!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
Cheers
@Vintage_Dave_T
@Vintage_Dave_T 3 жыл бұрын
Cool idea. I’m no electrician but I’d put electrical tape on the white wire exposed connector. To be safe.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@robertsanz1221
@robertsanz1221 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. It should be cut off and covered with a large wire nut.
@colinpovey2904
@colinpovey2904 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertsanz1221 Exactly correct. No electrical tape, but a wire nut, with all exposed copper covered.
@kylereese4822
@kylereese4822 3 жыл бұрын
Or a few layers of heat shrink....
@kylereese4822
@kylereese4822 3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact... it`s 1 socket for everything in my country 240 volts 3 pins and no chance of electric shock from the pins..:):)
@richardheckbert2765
@richardheckbert2765 3 жыл бұрын
You should have stripped the black cable jacket all the way down to the cable clamp in the bottom of the Tesla charger mount. This way the 4 cables are separate and can be easily bent and shaped into position without having to stretch them. Also you should cut the end off the white wire and cap this with a wire nut and electrical tape.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea good input thanks
@TrendyStone
@TrendyStone 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the white wire go back to ground eventually in the breaker panel? I'm curious what the wire nut accomplished? Just a best practice or is there a functional purpose.
@richardheckbert2765
@richardheckbert2765 3 жыл бұрын
If the Tesla wall connector is wired directly to the main panel then technically yes the white neutral is tied to the bare copper ground wire in the main panel. If the wall connector is wired to a sub panel then no the neutral and ground are completely separated at the sub panel. Having said this. The neutral wire should never be thought of as just another ground or to serve the same function. The ground is used as a current carrying conductor only in a fault or emergency. The neutral wire is used as the reverse path of electricity in an AC circuit completing the circular path for power to flow. With a 240v system the neutral is not needed a reverse path for current to flow as a 240v system is using two bots (red and black) to conduct power.
@stephen2220
@stephen2220 2 жыл бұрын
Should I also cap off the white wire in the 14-50 outlet and at the circuit breaker box as well? Thanks!
@thomaswilson2917
@thomaswilson2917 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the power cable strain relief? You are in violation of the NEC!
@JohnHeng
@JohnHeng 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm I already have a NEMA 14-50 in my garage. I was thinking that if I were to ever get a wall connector, I'd have to tear up the wall again but this video gives me another idea. Thanks! I was confused at first on why you were clipping off the connectors then I realized that it was a dryer cord which is a pretty awesome idea. This would get me from 32A -> 40A (or 29 mph -> 37 mph).
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly right! And since you already have the outlet, no electrician needed!
@jamkat388
@jamkat388 Жыл бұрын
I know this came out a while back and I may have posted a comment... But I believe with my 160 mi commute up to four times a day the Tesla wall charger may be a better answer to charging at home. But something I do notice since this last winter and it's not quite over yet. The expense of charging goes up basically compared to fuel in the winter time. Because you lose a lot of energy because of temperature I do have to charge at a supercharger at least two times in a weekend. One trip to 80 mi on my commute to work and I was at almost 80% charge. I was completely down to 17%. Granted it was not a normal cold spell like north of us. I am from the Pacific Northwest and the cold spell came into single digits for a few days. It really tested my battery and charging. The expenses of course went up. Still not quite as high as fuel costs but those cold days were as equal. But my energy savings are tremendous because of less supercharging when the temperature gets above 35°.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
Yea, just like when using winter grade gas is less efficient, so is running a heat pump
@greggordon2721
@greggordon2721 3 жыл бұрын
One suggesion and often overlooked is to make sure you use a torque screwdriver and make sure its torqued properly. Drill is not the way to properly make sure its tight. Like other said in the post I would cut back the sheeting further so you don't have to jam the wires in there, and also clip off the white wire. Other than that cool install.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I ended up doing all of that when I added the gasket at the bottom. Much cleaner install now
@riccaraballo
@riccaraballo Жыл бұрын
Man this was so easy!!! I ended up splicing a extension cable and plug it to my old dryer port. Worked perfectly!!! Thank you so much for the idea!!!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
cheers
@tombournique
@tombournique Жыл бұрын
I bought an old series one mobile charger from a Tesla model S. It plugs into the wall outlet and charges at forty amps on my model 3 LR. I can unplug it and take it with me if needed, but instead I keep it plugged in all the time and keep the mobile charger that came with the car and harges at 32 amps in my frunk. This way I can use it and places that have 240-volt outlets or just use the 120 volt plug instead.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
Yea those gen 1 chargers were great
@Speedlimitreviews
@Speedlimitreviews 3 жыл бұрын
Have had this done for a few years now. It’s a great way to have the best of both world. Fast charging and ultimate flexibility if you ever want to change chargers or a friend comes with a non tesla EV. Great video.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@Speedlimitreviews
@Speedlimitreviews 3 жыл бұрын
Same to you! Great channel!
@LTdan457
@LTdan457 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently running a chargepoint for my MY LR with an adapter permanently attached since my garage already has a NEMA 14-50 outlet and didn't want to go through the hassle of ripping it out for the Tesla wall charger. However after looking at this method, I may consider it in the future. Thanks for the vid!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@AndrewJamison79
@AndrewJamison79 3 жыл бұрын
There was a short time when Tesla sold wall connectors with an nema 14-50 plug pre-installed
@mitchellbarnow1709
@mitchellbarnow1709 3 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewJamison79 I wish that I had purchased one of those!
@AndrewJamison79
@AndrewJamison79 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitchellbarnow1709 yeah only saw them for like a few months then they kind of disappeared but at one point short though it may be they existed
@FrunkToTrunk
@FrunkToTrunk 3 жыл бұрын
*It’s the $500 price tag that gets me. But it looks sweet!* 🚘⚡️
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea me too…
@MarkStatkus
@MarkStatkus 3 жыл бұрын
Check out that lovely federal tax credit - should get around $165 or so off.
@LifeasArt_Tech
@LifeasArt_Tech 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkStatkus True.
@andreym325
@andreym325 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkStatkus I file for rebate 3 months ago. Never heard from them 😡
@sludog
@sludog 3 жыл бұрын
I had a wall charger installed a few months ago. Install was cheap but the wire and breaker were super expensive because of the supply shortages. My Model 3 LR was delivered last weekend so it was torture waiting to plug my car in for two months waiting for the car. Lol Well worth the money with the faster charging and makes my finished garage look great. When it lites up charging it looks beautiful. Lol
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@bspencersf
@bspencersf 2 жыл бұрын
Couple of things… As you alluded to you do need a fitting where the cable exits the base. Rather than the one you showed in the video a clamp would be required to provide strain relief for the cable. Also note that it’s generally against code to have a permanently mounted fixture connected by removable plug. I don’t really consider that a safety risk but just pointing out that it’s probably against code.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. “Do not try this at home”
@markreaume9417
@markreaume9417 3 жыл бұрын
we got our second Tesla (Y 4wd) 15 months ago, that bumped model 3SR+ to be used only around town - M3 has ONLY been charged on its mobile connect on a 110v outlet since then - and never been a problem, and that was a lot less than $40
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
We did the same with our LR Y for a year and a half with no issue
@NipomoBeach
@NipomoBeach 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. Bearded Guy. I have also used the technique on various items. I don’t see a lot of advantage to this process. But what about mounting the wall connector to a piece of plywood with the pigtail. At that point you would have the same function as with yours, but you can attach the plywood with connector that are easy to remove. Then you have a portable wall connector. You then can simply unplug it and remove the plywood connector and take it with you. Could be a good advantage if you visit relatives with the appropriate electrical box to plug it into. I would also cut the white neutral white so you don’t have to deal with it. I’m in the process of getting a Model Y. The estimated delivery date is December 27 ish. I also purchased the wall connector. My only reservations is the WiFi connectivity. Not sure how that would affect my idea. Thanks again.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
cheers
@waltertoki1
@waltertoki1 Жыл бұрын
This is a nice video on using a Tesla wall charger and adapting it to plug into an existing NEMA receptacle. This is a short cut to avoid having an electrician install a direct connection from the wall charger to the breaker box Now this can be hazardous when one is charging their Tesla many hours drawing 40-50 amps at 240 volts through plug and receptacle instead of a direct wired connection. Resistance can build up in between the plug and receptacle leading to IR^2 heating between the plug and receptable which can lead to melting the plug and receptable during a charging period. Most high current home appliances are electric stoves and dryers. Usually they are not operated very high current continuously for many hours. To be safe, occasionally, one should put their hand on the plug and check if it is getting warm or hot. If it is, the plug and receptable should be replaced to avoid a fire. One can also use an infrared temperature thermal gun to measure the surface temperature of the plug and check if it is getting warm after charging the Tesla for several hours. At home, I charge my Tesla Model 3 with my wall charger directly wired to the breaker box. I used AWG gauge #4 wires instead of 6 to minimize the chance of overheating wires or connections. This charges at 11.5 kw and yields 48 mile/hour.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
There are always better ways to do it. This worked perfect for us for a year and a half
@Wittstock99
@Wittstock99 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this video, just did the same thing today and it worked like a charm!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@Brettman838
@Brettman838 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy what cord did you purchase to then strip and plug directly into your dryer outlet? Did you just use the tesla nema 10-30 adapter and cut it?
@iveslao
@iveslao 3 жыл бұрын
One thing to notice is I believe the Tesla connector can support 60 amp, that means if anyone wants 60 amps output then the nema 14-50 won't work since it is limited to
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, that’s right. 50 amps, meaning 40 to the car vs the full 60 amps or 48 to the car if straight wired
@ernestgalvan9037
@ernestgalvan9037 3 жыл бұрын
On mine, instead of completely cutting off the ring connectors on the dryer cable, I only cut off the rings, leaving the ‘crimp’ part to act as a ‘ferrule’. Second, after passing cable inside cabinet, I connected leads first, THEN dressed wires in… and yes, I removed more of the sheathing
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@cusman
@cusman 3 жыл бұрын
Never knew that the Tesla Wall Charger can just be plugged into the NEMA 14-50. The one I had installed in my home basically removed NEMA 14-50 and then used wires that used to be connected to. I have left a second NEMA 14-50 in my garage as is over replacing with Wall Charger in case I buy a different brand EV for my 2nd vehicle.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea pretty simple actually
@rovin002
@rovin002 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I installed my wall connector following your method.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
It’s still working great over here.
@ronl2463
@ronl2463 3 жыл бұрын
I use the 14-50 outlet and adapter, it work fine and doesn’t cost $500!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Worked well for me for a year and a half
@Theeslickness
@Theeslickness 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Your setup is exactly like mine. Down to the mobile charger, M3 SR+, and the low to the ground 14-50 plug. You just confirmed that I can use a 14-50 extension. Plus you showed me that my M3 SR+ only gets 32amp at 8kw, which is totally fine. I'd rather not melt my hardware.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@georgepelton5645
@georgepelton5645 Жыл бұрын
Initially I liked this idea of using a stove cord with a 14-50 outlet. However, Tesla says in the installation manual *not* to do this, requiring a direct hard wire connection. For BTG’s garage setup it would not have been difficult to eliminate the 14-50 outlet and wire direct.
@Theeslickness
@Theeslickness Жыл бұрын
@@georgepelton5645 good to know. I will likely move soon and when I do, I'll wire it correctly without the 14-50 plug.
@doomsday9973
@doomsday9973 Жыл бұрын
@@georgepelton5645I was going to say although his setup was fine, all he had to do was kill the breaker, open up and remove the NEMA plug, then pretty much wire it the same way and done
@CraigLongo
@CraigLongo 3 жыл бұрын
My mobil connector Nima 14/50 has been plugged in since end of 2017. No issues.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, worked great for us for a year and a half
@bufffatty9160
@bufffatty9160 Жыл бұрын
this is a good job but as an electrician i reccomend you wrap some electrical tape around your white wire because the wire could unbend and the metal part can touch the black and red cables. if that happens... no bueno
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
yea, should cover the white wire
@Douglas-1994
@Douglas-1994 2 жыл бұрын
How come you don't show how to put in the terminal protector?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t have it at the time I filmed. It was an oversight on my part
@dennismartini605
@dennismartini605 3 жыл бұрын
Tesla used to sell a Tesla plug in wall charger that used the NEMA 14-50 and was not hard wired. (2018) I bought one and lucky I did because for some reason they stopped selling them. I haven't seen them offered for sale since. Now if for some reason I leave I can take it with me.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea I wish they still offered it
@tamdang4849
@tamdang4849 2 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant!! thank you for the dryer wire tip.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
It works and saves a ton
@doubletake2448
@doubletake2448 3 жыл бұрын
Unless I am mistaken, I did not observe you install the strain relief (Southwire Liquid-Tight Connector referenced in the description) at the base of the charger. The strain relief should have been threaded into the charger first, then the wires introduced through the access hole and then clamped to prevent wire strain and moisture penetration. Without the strain relief, you do not have a safe install of the charger. Also, as stated by others, you may want to snip off the connector of the unused common (white wire) and then dress the wire with electrical tape and a wire nut. Taking these steps should put you in compliance with NEC.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, I mentioned that in the video. I have it installed, just didn’t have it at the time of filming.
@mujjuman
@mujjuman Жыл бұрын
this is awesome. im hesitant to install a charger in my house because the damn circuit breaker is on the opposite side of the house from where the garage is...
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
Yea that’s a bummer for sure
@jonathanblackwell42
@jonathanblackwell42 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not crapping on this idea...I love it. But please tell me you bought specifically an oven connector and not a dryer one. The oven one is rated to handle 50 amps, whereas the dryer one is only 30. This is a fairly common cause of fires.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
It’s 50 amp rated
@jonathanblackwell42
@jonathanblackwell42 3 жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy I got called out on that once, so I wanted to make sure it didn't cause any catastrophic issues for ya.
@jaeko2223
@jaeko2223 6 ай бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy i know this is old but this is for others who see this post today. your practice is dangerous. wall charger can pull 48amp; electric code for EV charger is the outlet and fuse must only use 80% of rated amp because it is continuous load. for wall charger, your outlet and fuse must be 60amp.
@atanasdimitrov4081
@atanasdimitrov4081 3 жыл бұрын
shorten the dryer line as much as you can and you'll get better voltage!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip
@juanlopez701575
@juanlopez701575 Жыл бұрын
You just changed the breaker to a 50 amp breaker. Did you have 6 guage wire on it???? If not you can cause a fire. 50 amps on a 8 guage wire or smaller cable could be alot of stress to the wire and melt
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
This was set up with 6 gauge wire from the get go to future proof the setup. A 14-50 will pull 40 amps at the charger in this config so there's no issue there either.
@juanlopez701575
@juanlopez701575 Жыл бұрын
@BeardedTeslaGuy your good then. Just wanted to make sure
@jeffjiegao
@jeffjiegao 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this is an advisable way. Although I'm not an electrician, I can see it is potentially unsafe because the wall connector's wire sockets are for solid core wires, and they should be torqued to specification so the wires are tight but at the same time not deformed to increase resistance. The plug wires are stranded so they will not stay tight at the specified torque (maybe not in this type of socket designed for solid wires at all).
@CasualTeslaFan
@CasualTeslaFan 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a JuiceBox 40 charger for my model 3 but considering setting up a wall connector now.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t go wrong either way really. Just simpler with the Tesla connector I guess
@CasualTeslaFan
@CasualTeslaFan 3 жыл бұрын
​@@BeardedTeslaGuy That's true. I got the JuiceBox before my electric company's rebate was eligible for any Tesla chargers, but if I could go back in time... haha
@mikedoingmikethings702
@mikedoingmikethings702 Ай бұрын
Make sure to tighten those wires to 50"lb, loose wire connection will cause fire...
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Ай бұрын
Indeed
@DanDattilo
@DanDattilo 3 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn’t you cap off the white lead to prevent any potential internal contact?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
You should cap it off
@balthezor
@balthezor 2 жыл бұрын
How will you charge two Tesla's with only one NEMA 14-50?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, unplug 1 and plug in the other…
@balthezor
@balthezor 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Haha, I thought you meant at the same time. Cheers my friend.
@bschwalbe1
@bschwalbe1 Жыл бұрын
Why does the owner's manual state "Hardwire branch circuits to disconnects or circuit breakers. Do NOT install cord-and-plug type"? Just wanted to make sure this method is safe.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
Because according to code and safety hardwiring would be the way to go
@DoingitDave
@DoingitDave 3 жыл бұрын
We have two Model Y LR and share 1 mobile connector. No issues. Save the money.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
The mobile connector is sufficient for most people honestly
@marvinedmond7661
@marvinedmond7661 3 жыл бұрын
I was concerned with charging 2 cars alternatively on one charger, but it sounds like it's very doable. Thanks
@DoingitDave
@DoingitDave 3 жыл бұрын
@@marvinedmond7661 it’s about just identifying your needs. It can be done and in my home is.
@howardlerner4958
@howardlerner4958 3 жыл бұрын
I have a LR MY. I had a 14-50 outlet installed in my garage and use the mobile connector. Getting 29 Miles per hour charge which is fast enough. I don’t see the point of purchasing the Wall Connector for incremental 7 miles per hour charge. Not worth the expense in my opinion.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, mobile connector is plenty sufficient. The wall connector will just be more durable over a long period of time
@mayorofsexytown6958
@mayorofsexytown6958 3 жыл бұрын
I figure for Cybertruck I am going to want full 60 amp setup, that battery hog the incremental will be nice.
@drscrubs
@drscrubs Жыл бұрын
Update? Has this held up? No complications, malfunctions, problems?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
Not 1 issue
@drscrubs
@drscrubs Жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Do you have a picture how it looks of that numbin thing you put at the bottom of your wall charger?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
@@drscrubs I have a link of the piece in the description. It’s a cheap part but absolutely necessary for a safe install
@drscrubs
@drscrubs Жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy sorry. I was not clear. I saw the link. I was wondering what it looks like once it is installed in your wall charger.
@nepalitechreviews5534
@nepalitechreviews5534 2 жыл бұрын
I tried exactly same but didn't get device light up. I checked voltage on screwed wire it says 240 but no lights on tesla device
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Check that all connections are secure
@djwarters
@djwarters 2 жыл бұрын
Don't quote me, but I believe that if you install a second wall connector, that will spilt the power used on a single 50A breaker.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and they can communicate with each other from my understanding.
@vasil7410
@vasil7410 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest insulating the lug on the white neutral wire rather than leave it exposed.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@danfoley1429
@danfoley1429 11 ай бұрын
First, you need to torque the wire connections to spec to prevent heat build up. Second, the wires when bundled in this cable are not rated for 50 amp continuous load (ampacity). Step it down to 40 amp max on wall charger setting so 32 amp max output. Unless your needs are greater, step it down to the minimum needed like 30 amp for 24 amp max to be safer if that works for your charging needs. You could have just used the plug outlet as a junction box and connect a 3/4" conduit (can be weather tight flex for simplicity) with 6 gauge THHN wire would be more secure. Use wire lugs in the junction box instead of wire nuts. Can use 8 gauge THHN if that is what is in the junction box already, just be sure to set the wall connector accordingly. Even if OK with 50 amp breaker and 8 gauge, I'd still step it down one as if 40 amp breaker in the wall connector setting if you don't really ned the full 50 amp to be extra safe. What you did is NOT safe in the long term if you are running at 50 amp breaker setting. Remember wires versus cables hav different ampacity. Be safe!
@thucksoll
@thucksoll 3 жыл бұрын
This is super cool! I’m going to try this as well! I had no idea.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Same over here. I thought it was cool
@gregorycooper7340
@gregorycooper7340 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Might want to uninstall and install cable restrainer.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Did after the video
@dannylemmon7123
@dannylemmon7123 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I never would have thought to do this.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@BlackBirdieGolf
@BlackBirdieGolf 3 жыл бұрын
6 miles def isn't enough but the other positive is that if you move, you can take the super charger with you.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. And the durability of this over the mobile connector
@skunkbudzrus
@skunkbudzrus 7 ай бұрын
My question is that dryer wire is it rated for 40amps.
@jonathanjurena
@jonathanjurena 3 жыл бұрын
You should look into a smart splitter. it'll switch charging between vehicles once 1 is done it'll start charging the others. That way you can take full advantage of charging during OFF PEAK Hours and don't have to wake up in the middle of the night to swap the vehicles.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, things are simpler here. Same rate all day
@marvinedmond7661
@marvinedmond7661 3 жыл бұрын
Smart splitter? So there's something out there that will allow me to connect 2 cars to one 14-50 outlet. Is that safe?
@jonathanjurena
@jonathanjurena 3 жыл бұрын
@@marvinedmond7661 yes sir. It comes with its own protection system. you can plug your drier and your Tesla and If you need to run the dryer it'll stop charging allow you dry your clothes then when it stops continuing charging your vehicle.
@jonathanjurena
@jonathanjurena 3 жыл бұрын
@@marvinedmond7661 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4SloqhroNGHg9E
@marvinedmond7661
@marvinedmond7661 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanjurena 🤯 thanks dude
@tofu86oc55
@tofu86oc55 3 жыл бұрын
for me its a no-brainer. get the 14-50 instead of the tesla wall connector cuz what if i decide to park my oven or dryer in the garage instead?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what we did successfully for over a year
@latehappylife
@latehappylife 2 жыл бұрын
I just installed my wall connector. The electrical was no problem for me. But the commission? Really? I spent a lot of time to really understand the procedure. My model 3 is not arriving till October. So, there is no way if the commission was done properly. Ill see when I add my car vin #. Why so complicated? Had to use the phone then my lap top. I do have pretty good knowledge of electronics. But how can a layman figure this crap out? Will the connector work if you don't do the commission?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about connecting to WiFi? If so, no you don’t have to connect for the charger to work
@latehappylife
@latehappylife 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Thanks for you reply Yes. connect to Wi Fi .As I understand is what Tesla call commission the wall connector. So. I think, by connect it to the wi fi Tesla can monitor what its doing. I wished that there was an app for the connector it self.
@liminyao
@liminyao Жыл бұрын
Can I configure 48amp on 50amp circuit break?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
No, don’t do that!!! 80% is the number. So if you want 48 amps to the wall connector, you need a 60 amp breaker hard wired to the wall connector.
@TheBarking2
@TheBarking2 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect. Your one of my favorites, to come check out when it comes anything Tesla. Good job. I ordered my model Y long range. Can’t wait 😛. By the time I get it I’m gonna be a professional.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
so awesome, congrats!
@-Good4Y0u
@-Good4Y0u 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure code allows 14-50 on a 60 amp breaker using 6/3 romex , GFCI required for garages though where there is a plug but not if the device is hardwired and has GFCI built in.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I am not an electrician, and you should not do what I did, but this is what I did without issue
@danc2014
@danc2014 3 жыл бұрын
You voltage drops because of the longer cable Or because of a poor connection.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same
@marklefler4007
@marklefler4007 3 жыл бұрын
even cheaper is buy a used Tesla Gen 1 charger from ebay for around $300. It does 40 amps with a NEMA 14-50 and plugs in. Cheaper and no wiring needed if you have the NEMA 14-50. And it is portable for trips.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Man, I’ve not seen a good deal on a used one
@LemonySnicket-EUC
@LemonySnicket-EUC 3 жыл бұрын
There are a bunch of deals on eBay for sure.
@andrewpham8665
@andrewpham8665 Жыл бұрын
New Subscriber. Very nice Mr. bearded guy, love your content! Do you recommend removing the label on side of charger showing your WiFi QR code to prevent someone stealing your unit and be able to commission it? ESP if the unit is install outdoor?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
No because the sticker you need is in the setup packet. The one on the side is different
@andrewpham8665
@andrewpham8665 Жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy good to know Bro! Thank you👍
@marksweeting24
@marksweeting24 Жыл бұрын
It is becoming apparent that the 14-50 outlets being used for dryers and ranges are not adequate for the continuous loads of an EV charger and many cases of overheating and melting. Also with code changes, many areas now require and soon probably all will require a gfci breaker. A more expensive, commercial grade outlet and gfci breaker and a 40 amp max limit, it is probably better and cheaper to do a hardwire installation.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
Yea, hardwire will be the best option where possible
@steveroper8733
@steveroper8733 2 жыл бұрын
My suggestion is to immediately throw away the driver bit Tesla provides. Just use a normal allen wrench. The Tesla bit with my installation snapped in two when tightening the wire connections. Having tight connections is critical. Loose connections will cause overheating of the wiring, tripped breakers etc. I ended up having to order a whole new backplate and reinstalling since the tip of the bit was thoroughly "stuck". Its a cheap bit...which is why they give them away....but a costly one for me.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea that bit also can strip out the bolts pretty easily
@mkrisch1986
@mkrisch1986 9 ай бұрын
What is the original wire rated at that runs from the outlet to your panel?
@Douglas-1994
@Douglas-1994 2 жыл бұрын
I think with the gas car ban stuff going here in California, it's now going to be code that all houses must have Nema 14-50 outlets installed on the walls of the garages.
@cranium1441
@cranium1441 3 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy the Wall Connector for my LR AWD 3. My voltage I've noticed rarely hits 240. It's usually 234 - 238. But I went with a 100 amp line to future-proof it! #2 copper is no joke!
@laloajuria4678
@laloajuria4678 3 жыл бұрын
>220 nothing to do
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Super expensive lol
@jgm3796
@jgm3796 Жыл бұрын
What gauge are the wires on the extension cord?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
6 gauge
@Chainyanker007
@Chainyanker007 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, well done, sure looks easy.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers
@billkohl449
@billkohl449 Жыл бұрын
Why is the wall charger only 2 wires and a ground. I thought it was 3 wires and a ground like the Mobil connector? A 14-50 is 3 wires ( 2 hots and a neutral) and a ground? A 60 amp set up Should be 4 wires total ??
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
Wall connector only uses 3 wires. Here is the install manual www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/support/charging/Gen3_WallConnector_Installation_Manual.pdf
@billkohl449
@billkohl449 Жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Thanks my Mobile connector uses 4 wires and charges great. I have always used the Mobile for 6 years to charge my Tesla cars and it is perfect. Thanks for your reply. much appreciated
@danielshin78
@danielshin78 2 жыл бұрын
How is the wall charger working now? I’m thinking to follow your way.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Still working fine. It’s unplugged on a shelf since we moved so once our new house is done, it’ll be back on the wall
@patelkrunal311
@patelkrunal311 2 жыл бұрын
Question. So this cord has 8 and 6 gauge wires. Is that ok?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is rated for the amps pushing through it
@helicopterjohns
@helicopterjohns 3 жыл бұрын
If you have a large enough electrical panel i.e. 200 amp and available circuit breaker circuits I think you could probably install another breaker and run the necessary wiring and another wall receptacle and you could possibly charge both of your cars at the same time. If the charging cables are long enough that should work or when you run your second circuit you could put it on the opposite side of the garage which would require a shorter length of charging cable. Just some thoughts that you could discuss with your local electrician?????
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have another panel slot available unfortunately
@tyking1533
@tyking1533 3 жыл бұрын
The comment here is valid. You could swap the breaker and wiring your 14h-50 outlet is on for a larger guage wire and breaker to a new, small sub-panel (say 8 slot, 125a). That sub panel is then capable of supporting two 50a circuits off of it.
@bestshot300
@bestshot300 3 жыл бұрын
Electrical contractor here and you cannot use this setup for 60A as you said. you need #4s for 60A install
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
I have this set up as a 50 amp, not sure if I misspoke somewhere or if you misheard
@MotoSurgeon
@MotoSurgeon 3 жыл бұрын
Got the same setup so I can use the 1450 outlet for other stuff when not charging. I can charge at 48 amps but the cable gets warm so I lower it to 40
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Don't put that much power through that cable, it is rated for 50 amps, not 60
@Superman-xr1oh
@Superman-xr1oh 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of software updates would a wall charger need that it has to have wifi? 🤔
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Future capability?
@Superman-xr1oh
@Superman-xr1oh 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy Good point, haha.
@Canoneosmiami
@Canoneosmiami 2 жыл бұрын
U forgot to mention that it can be taken with u on the road if not wall mounted,!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed it can!
@liminyao
@liminyao Жыл бұрын
What does the white wire do? BTW - thank you for the video.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
It’s the neutral.
@watchandask
@watchandask 6 ай бұрын
How’s the plug been doing well so far, any drop of amp?
@chrisdewild9627
@chrisdewild9627 3 жыл бұрын
Does everyone here charge their Tesla’s in their garages? Or do you run a cord outside the garage? I’m just wondering how safe it is do run the charge cord outside to the Tesla. I’ll be receiving a Y in a few months, so it’d be nice to know how everyone is running their charging cords.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
In the garage
@jonathankoch5369
@jonathankoch5369 2 жыл бұрын
excellent, smart! I've got NEMA 10-30 outlet, I imagine same can be done, just with a 10-30 cord instead. Envision any issue with that? Looks like wall connector can go on various breaker levels, not just 40 AMP. TIA
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
yep! Same thing can be done.
@jonathankoch5369
@jonathankoch5369 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy great- really appreciate all your videos!
@danmitchell1143
@danmitchell1143 3 жыл бұрын
Need to install a 60 amp breaker and NEMA 6-50 outlet for my wife’s kiln. Do you know if I can wire the Gen 3 Tesla wall charger using a NEMA 6-50 pigtail/plug? My wife only uses the kiln once or twice a month and trying to save some money and not have to install a separate NEMA 6-50 plug for the kiln and a separate 50 amp or 60 amp breaker and electric cable to hardwire the Gen 3 Tesla wall charger. Great video, thanks…
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
As long as you can find a 50 amp rated plug then yes
@codynieman3729
@codynieman3729 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need an electrician to install a wall charger! It is Soo incredibly easy!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, just know your limits with this kind of stuff
@Yezdi-Sugi
@Yezdi-Sugi 2 жыл бұрын
hello sir - I am getting my new Tesla Model Y soon, i need to install Tesla Wall Connector and Nema 14-50..my understanding is we can do 2 nema and connect one to wall connector . please advise. In future I may get another electric car(not Tesla).
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
As long as you wire up the wall connector to a 14-50 plug like I did in this video
@tonymai1844
@tonymai1844 Жыл бұрын
Will the dryer cable be able of handling 40amp load?
@skline1398
@skline1398 3 жыл бұрын
I have a charging question for you. On a trip I understand how the routing and charging works from point A to B. But how do you work charging in if point B is. Hotel that doesn’t have a charger and you arrive at 10%? The next leg you only start with 10%?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Yea, so at the last charging stop of the night, I overcharge to arrive at the next charger closer to 20%, that way when I turn away from the route and get to the hotel, I have enough charge to make it in the morning.
@CTimmerman
@CTimmerman 3 жыл бұрын
What's the white wire for? I assume it doesn't have any charge in case it touches the screw.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
There’s a 4th wire in appliance setups that is not used in Tesla charging
@scottparks362
@scottparks362 3 жыл бұрын
It's a neutral wire
@22tbond
@22tbond 3 жыл бұрын
I see people mentioning the $500 price for the charger. Check to see if your city or electric company offers a rebate. I live in Roseville, CA and they offer up to $500 rebate towards a home charger.
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Some of y'all are lucky with the rebates. No such rebates here unfortunately
@ELCEV
@ELCEV 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but most rebates are only good if you have a licensed electrician install it.
@22tbond
@22tbond 3 жыл бұрын
@@ELCEV I am also fortunate that my father in law is an electrician. Although the city never required me to send them anything on that. All I submitted was the form and receipt for the wall charger.
@ELCEV
@ELCEV 3 жыл бұрын
@@22tbond Good deal.
@jeets2k2
@jeets2k2 Жыл бұрын
Did you have a GFI 50 amp circuit breaker or plain breaker?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was a plain breaker
@jackel61-007
@jackel61-007 13 күн бұрын
You never installed your cable connector in the bottom. I guess the extra space isn't that big of a deal?
@chiehshen8921
@chiehshen8921 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool idea! Try to do the same soon. Did anyone tried 48A option on the Model Y, since we have 50A breaker? Will it works also?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
No, 50 amp breaker will only supply 40 amps to the car. You need a 60 amp breaker to have 48 amps
@chiehshen8921
@chiehshen8921 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@choiyn98
@choiyn98 2 жыл бұрын
My dryer plug in garage is 14-30, will this route work for me too?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@zxnuc
@zxnuc Жыл бұрын
What if my nema 1450 source is only 40 amps. Can I still install the wall connector?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy Жыл бұрын
sure, just configure it to 32 amps
@scottnem
@scottnem 3 жыл бұрын
What is the black 14-50 wall plug you have?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a range cord you can get at the hardware store
@Teslapensilvania
@Teslapensilvania 7 ай бұрын
Where are you from I want to put a charger in my garage
@stephen2220
@stephen2220 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just learned that Tesla will no longer be supplying the mobile connector with new cars (April, 2022). It figures, I just installed my Nema 14-50 outlet but haven't received my car yet, now I'll have to purchase the Wall Connector. After I cap off the white wire inside the Tesla Wall Charger can I leave the white wires attached to the 14-50 outlet and circuit breaker or should I cap them off as well? Thank you!
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
I am not sure what you mean
@stephen2220
@stephen2220 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeardedTeslaGuy I have a three wire 14-50 outlet wired to my circuit breaker, white, red, black and ground . Can I just use the cord you specified and plug it into the 14-50 outlet that's connected to the Tesla wall adapter and I'm done or do I have to disassemble the 14-50 outlet and remove the white wire there and at the circuit breaker as well or leave all the white wires connected?
@Saiyanmx89
@Saiyanmx89 2 жыл бұрын
Why should you leave the mobile connector plugged in everyday?
@BeardedTeslaGuy
@BeardedTeslaGuy 2 жыл бұрын
It works that way well
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