Beast Board Game Review - Does A Bear Sh*t In The Woods?

[@wookiebarista]

I can't help thinking your videos started as court ordered anger management but you didn't stop after the parole officer said you're all done and paid your debt to society. Love the humor, directness, and tough genuine interest in the hobby. Just found the channel today and look forward to plowing through the catalog. Cheers

[@BoardGameBollocks]

👍🏻

[@BobbyJuno]

Great job. You know, this is the game that made me become skeptical of a few KZbin channels. I guess I was being naive to think that hype couldn't be bought. Keep up the good work!

[@TabletopTurtle]

We're a crazy small channel and even we've had publishers contact us about partnership deals that include reviews. This industry is heavily polluted, which I guess shouldn't be surprised. Sponsored content is fine, but it shouldn't be reviews and at some point content creators need to start spacing out how many bloody Kickstarters they're shilling for the month.

[@tommywatcher2321]

Voice reminds me of any Warhammer Ork, which to me is quite relaxing.

[@maxryan2023]

thank so much for the review, I was so close to backing it because I really like the art work and some "youtuber" recommandation. Thank you again

[@TheAush22]

I often don’t agree with your reviews, but I stay here for the honesty. I agree with you on this one though. I had high expectations and had a decidedly meh time with it

[@ericengstrom2138]

Don't forget Ninja. Awesome hidden movement game. Thanks for the review.

[@petergross7235]

Bought it on sale and haven't played it yet. This was a little surprising. I own a copy of Scotland Yard too and I love that game. Thanks for the honest review as always.

[@Fatpie42]

Whitehall Mystery? Sure it's a map covered in numbers, but very clear straightforward gameplay.

[@lewisarthur9797]

Some say if you looked closely you could see where Linford hid his Nandrolone 🤔

[@BoardGameBollocks]

😂

[@jon7043]

My favourite hidden movement game is Nuns on the Run. I hope they will reprint Fury of Dracula because I missed out on that one. I am also tempted by Whitehall Mystery or the other one similar to that (forgot its name).

[@JLDP666]

Recently got a 4th edition Fury of Dracula from a small shop and your comment made me curious so I checked other stores over in Portugal where I'm from; yeah seems to be completely sold out. I got lucky it seems. Good luck and good searching!

[@Mattsmindmeld]

I bought this on sale but now am probably going to sell it. It just hasn't made it to the table and I don't really have the mental bandwidth to learn it. Seems like maybe I should have picked up a better hidden movement game. Thanks for the honest review!

[@WillHinds]

I know it sucks to express a negative opinion, but I can tell it is not you intention to shit on anyone, and I appreciate your straight forward review. Thanks mate.

[@The_Real_Danger_Mouse]

Agreed. I demoed this at Gencon, the people running the demo could not address those same issues other than: "There is an app..."

[@masoncowell7039]

I don't mean to disagree with your opinions, but it seems like maybe they missed the rule that when the beast reveals itself, all the movement cards you've played so far are removed. So you should never really be going through more than a few rounds of movement cards.

[@BoardGameBollocks]

I’d rather not go through any tbf…and it’s ok to disagree mate 👍🏻

[@mattg4986]

Yeah, but you see if you play a few rules incorrectly it distorts your experience and your subsequent liking of the game.

[@BoardGameBollocks]

No one played the game wrong mate. Whether the deck is large or small doesn’t affect gameplay. Hardly a “rule”.

[@Filthyy1]

​@BoardGameBollocks but you did though. Look I love the channel and the honesty of your opinions but I own Whitechapel, fury of dracula and Beast and beast is just fury without the 6 hour play time that comes with it. You have to work to win this game, it's difficult for both sides. Especially as you can be pinned easily. I've yet to have a game where I've felt victory was handed to me.

[@BoardGameBollocks]

Nope sorry mate

[@theshogunstein6475]

One of your best videos!

[@kevindelord]

Good Video! It’s refreshing to you doing a negative review! Usually you don’t tend to with all the video editing effort and “mise en scene”. Best channel full of bollocks!

[@cg5380]

Im glad i sww this review even tho id bought the game already. I bought it due to a positive review someone else gave. I havent gotten to table it yet but heres to hoping its good for me. You make great content regardless of if we end up disagreeing

[@BoardGameBollocks]

👍🏻

[@Paul-ro6py]

Sorry to read that you had a bad experience. We backwd it and agree its weak.and yes we back less on crowd funding as well.

[@olafpieters]

Another excellent review. I'm gonna hunt for other beasts.

[@TheAmazingYeti]

Your content is so refreshing. I am so sick of these other care bear content creators that are afraid to hurt peoples feelings. Luke from The Broken Meeple is also breaking the mold and not afraid to give a negative review. Keep doing what you do!

[@BoardGameBollocks]

We’re from the same city. Maybe it’s something in the water here.

[@TabletopTurtle]

Luke is a savage. Although there is a part of me that's a little worried he goes out of the way to be negative because that has become his brand. But it's fair play, because there are loads of bloody mediocre board games out there getting constant praise.

[@TheAmazingYeti]

@@TabletopTurtle Fair.. on brand or not. We need more critical reviewers. Easy to be positive when you're getting games for free. The average gamer isn't that fortunate. I got heat from another content creator for saying that the new Everdell is "Milking their cash cow". Said I was putting down the entire team by saying that. Which I didn't get at all.. the executives in charge.. sure.. but everyone?? Art is meant to be criticized IMO. I don't get the view of only sharing positivity completely. Surrounding yourself only by Yes-Men leaves zero room for improvement. It was even more odd because I said the game still looked great and seemed like a great entry point for new players. Pretty sure they were projecting on some level. None the less I unfollwed them.. I don't need their holier than thou mindset on my feed.

[@TabletopTurtle]

​@@TheAmazingYeti We did a negative review of Expeditions and the amount of random comments we had to do disecting our opinions and letting us know how we were wrong was mind-blowing. Could just be content creators don't want to put up with the fuss that disliking someone's favorite game comes with. But it's still just likely being positive to avoid a loss of access with certain publishers. Even if a company isn't give you money for the review, you may not want to step on their toes when they are giving you games months in advance of retail. The cost of integrity for a few more likes and views, I guess.

[@TheAmazingYeti]

@@TabletopTurtle well you just got a subscriber out of me for having the balls to put your honest feedback out into the world.

[@AuthorDiCristofano]

Solid review. I backed this stylistic hot mess of a game. Upon playing, my game group found the session a boring, muddled experience without a worthwhile endgame. As far as I'm concerned, only you and The Dice Tower gave truthful critiques of the game.

[@BoardGameBollocks]

I’ve not seen the Dice Tower review. I’m surprised they gave it a negative tbh.

[@Jonaelize]

Board Game RunDown also gave it a negative review

[@greghinzmann3171]

Obliterated my FOMO for this game. Thank you.

[@noneyafkn]

I gotta leave a like for the title of the video alone lol now on to watching

[@f33b58]

100% agree. Played this and thought WTF, maybe I'm not understanding something correctly. The instruction manual is garbage so I still have no clue if I was playing it correctly. Based on this review, I was playing it fine, it's just a horrible game. Keep up the good work.

[@kevinbabb7004]

Dodged a bullet by not getting this one it seems. Have you tried the Narcos boardgame?

[@BoardGameBollocks]

I haven’t but we were close a couple of years ago

[@Filip_eF]

1) Your summons can kill the animal/settler and complete the mission. You can still stay hidden though. 2) Every time you will reveal yourself You are taking cards and trace token from the map as well. You can use mini map and some small cubes (not added to the game) to keep a track of your movement. There's an digital movement tracker as well. 3) It's a draft game in general. You need to choose wisely and play wisely. At the beggining it's very annoying. Rulebook is shit. 4) I agree with lack of crescendo 5) Most important, on their websites you can find a lot of fan scenarios, which are, lol, better then original. Trust me. Big like for not kissing designers ass. Cheers

[@adriang6259]

Geezers wiv swords😂 So fuck the beast. Stick with ‘sniper elite’ and Scotland Yard? Wait, how good is Fury of Dracula?

[@ColonelKurtz]

Same. I came soooo close to backing this game, but something kept me from backing it. Perhaps, I realized that the game wasn't quite a hidden movement game, or perhaps I read about that somewhere. In any case, I appreciate you sharing your thoughts on the game and telling it as it is. I do think there are so many people who can get programmed by hype and aesthetics.

[@X4-Commander]

Too much hype about this game, I didn't believe it and didn't buy it. Now after your video I convinced that I am right

[@portwills]

Appreciate your videos

[@chrisperrien7055]

There was a time I could place where someone was from/what city in the UK by their accent, but that was long ago. Where you from dude?😎 Good review , saved me some money if I had money to spend on board-games now., I probably would have bought it in the past just on artwork .It does look good, but that is about it , I see from what you say. Besides, it is always a reach to buy any hard copy board game now, since Tabletop Simulator is around, and if you can handle the UI and syntax motions of TTS. ------------------------------- Oh yea, if you really want some good multiplayer board-games I suggest, 1.Wizard's Quest by Avalon Hill (found for cheap), 2.Divine Right by TSR (hard to find , very expensive) 3.Fortress America by Milton Bradley (also hard to find , fairly expensive) all these games are 40+ years old/out of print . I am not suggesting reviews, I just think you would really like playing those three games,

[@BoardGameBollocks]

I’m from Pompey

[@chrisperrien7055]

@@BoardGameBollocks Is that in Somerset?

[@BoardGameBollocks]

@chrisperrien7055 Behave yourself

[@zangster2k]

Have you had a chance to try Sniper Elite?

[@BoardGameBollocks]

I have not. Any good?

[@zangster2k]

@@BoardGameBollocks I thought it was pretty good. Played similarly to Specter Ops but I think it also moves faster. The bag building is fun and it definitely has some good tension.

[@TheAmazingMrGs]

Sad could be a good game with better mechanics maybe a storyline something of substance

[@mistelroom]

Hah - well done. Back to Mr. X then!

[@timstimbre9762]

Yes... Our Guardian of the Kalaxes. Shooting down BS-games since '09.

[@scullu]

What about Mind MGMT as a recommendation for the genre?

[@BoardGameBollocks]

It’s fine but a bit of a slog

[@KMReviews]

I love mind MGMT

[@MattWGAllan]

​@@BoardGameBollocksseems to be that the base game is a bit mediocre, but the experience of repeat plays with unlocks is a higher tier experience, did you only play base game? I'm yet to crack my copy out at all.

[@BoardGameBollocks]

@MattWGAllan That’s all there is…the expansion isn’t out yet

[@KMReviews]

@@BoardGameBollocks idk if you need an expansion when there’s already like 16 modules to unlock. I’ve been using them and each one changes the game pretty significantly. Yea if you just played the base game I can see why it wouldn’t be that impressive.

[@waynegaskin287]

Thanks for saving me money 😊m

[@xSean0607]

LoL absolutely murdered, you sure this is legal on utube?? :DD

[@petermillen6924]

I hadn’t seen The Beast but long before you revealed the fact I had figured out “this is a Kick$hitter product”. I like The Fury of Dracula (GW 1st Ed) for all its flaws.

[@harveydents]

LOVE Fury of Dracula! such a great game

[@alittlebitofwaffle4072]

Linford Christie...disappointing. becoming more vague as time passes, but not on the Cyril smith/ Gareth Hunt level..

[@BoardGameBollocks]

Americans will be confused by the cultural references in this video.

[@cyclemadness]

@@BoardGameBollocks As an American, I feel confused generally.

[@alittlebitofwaffle4072]

Yep...point proven. Keep up the good work.

[@db5823]

👍

[@Gamer2k4]

6:08 How can you complain about both the fact that there's "no" hidden movement and then claim that you have to track movement over the course of an hour of gameplay? Every time the beast reveals itself, the movement cards are discarded, because you don't need to track it anymore - it's been found! So which is it? Is the beast always being revealed, in which case you'll never have more than a negligible stack of movement cards? Or does the movement card stack get too overwhelming, in which case the beast has been hidden the whole time? And at 7:32, how have most of your games ended with the beast killing a hunter? You don't lose if a hunter dies. The hunter comes back the next day. Is it maybe possible that your complaints come from you just not understanding how to play the game?

[@BoardGameBollocks]

My complaints come from the game being crap

[@neptuune]

Mind MGMT is the best hidden movement game to date if you ask me (ok, i know you didn't).

[@AuthorDiCristofano]

Just bought MGMT.

[@pavelsenkov5357]

My first dislike on this channel. Totally disagree on the negative. Cards are not collected in such a pile - the beast appears earlier and the entire deck is discarded. What do you mean it's not covert movement? In Dracula, you can also find Dracula and he will stop hiding. Dracula feels like an outdated long craft compared to the beast. I'm very disappointed with your verdict

[@BoardGameBollocks]

Dracula can act while hidden whereas in Beast you can’t. I found that bizarre.

[@th3cha1rmak3r]

I think there is a really good game underneath it all, but the first issue is the imprecise rulebook. Second issue are some questionable production decisions. That is expected from the first time KS. I do think that majority of criticism stems from the fact that people are mad that the game frame itself as a hidden movement game, when in actuality it's not. The fact is that the designers AFAIK haven't labeled it like that, and the obvious inspiration was a video game Evolve, which IS NOT a hidden movement game, but one-vs-many action game (actually FPS) with elements of hidden movement. The important part in Evolve and in Beast is to develop a strategy for honing your skills and weapons in order to be more efficient in wounding an enemy once it's revealed. It's more important to be able to do a significant damage to the beast once it's revealed and to be able to be more deadly as a beast once the settler is in your reach than to just reveal the beast and expect that this is a crux of the game. So, to sum it up, you should be pissed at the YT shills more than the designers, as they didn't frame the game as a hidden movement one. Some obvious errors in the video: 1. Once you're revealed, you discard your movements cards. If you play against 2 decent hunters, either they are retarded or they will manage to hunt you down with you having max 4-5 cards. If it's too much to remember, you can use small cubes. 2. You have a flee action which means that you can ALWAYS discard one card on your turn and move 1 space. So you're not stuck. You cannot combine flee with playing the card, but people cannot make you stagnant by only hate drafting. 3. You don't discard items and beastly talents at the end of the round. You discard leftovers from the marketplace, you only discard action cards from your hands. (passing by counting actions cards of all opponents is pretty clunky though) These errors make a huge difference in a gaming experience. While all that information is inside the rulebook (also, the one where you have to put a reveal token once you pass over the hunter or the settler which also is thematically sound), they could've done more graphically to make it easy to understand. Many people have similar questions, which means that the rulebook is not that good (although I had almost 0 questions after reading it, I admit that the wording and examples could be way better). But in order to fully experience the game, I do think that you should try to play it with that errors fixed and having in mind that you're not playing a hidden movement game.

[@th3cha1rmak3r]

For the reference: 1. Page 11: "Flee: Discard 1 card of any type to move 1 step. You cannot combine this with playing a card." 2. Page 15: "Gain item: Whenever a hunter plays an effect that says gain an Item, that hunter chooses either one of the face up Items or takes the top card of the deck. Items are one-time use and Items in hand at night are not discarded." 3. Page 15: "Gain beastly talent: Whenever the Beast plays an effect that says gain Beastly talents, the Beast chooses one of the face up Beastly talents or takes the top card of the deck. Beastly talents are one-time use and Talents in hand at night are not discarded."

[@bernardorippe7024]

Same here, I think the problem is on the rulebook and the lack of clarity. The screen system help the beast player to keep track of the real movement. Is clumsy... Yes really clumsy but not unplayable. About actions, is a draft, so you need to keep track of your picks instead of taking cards just by picking. This game is about balancing the actions. You still have a basic action of movement discarding a card. I totally understand your frustration, and this is happening to a lot of people. You miss the opportunity to have a great experience because of the unclarity.

[@BoardGameBollocks]

@rootedLabs I did mention the discard a card to move so it’s not an error. Also the video is t a tutorial and only a brief overview so if I missed out a rule it’s because it’s was either obvious or not relevant.

[@benishehe]

i did make the mistake of backing this; not only is the game subpar but the way they handled the campaign, shipping, and especially pricing was absolute dogshit. i wished i had played whitehall instead every time ive played beast. it does have fantastic art, though.

[@clvrswine]

"Backing" games and playing games are two different hobbies. Looks like you learned that. Stop backing so much (and bragging about it) and try playing games that you already own.

[@rickgoodman8911]

Yes. This game is garbage.

[@harveydents]

NIght and Day Phase? Hidden Movement.. My god this just seems like Fury Of Dracula! (lovely game, i have the GW and the FFG versions) Great video as always mate! Keep it up!