Beautiful.. BUT Is it Really So Terrible To Drive? Alfa Romeo Montreal

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Number 27

Number 27

Күн бұрын

The Alfa Romeo Montreal is a fabulous looking car with a race derived Alfa V8, it was eagerly anticipated but turned out to be a real disappointment. Despite this values have been rising and the Montreal is now finally appreciated, today i drive it and look at what made it fail in the day and how it stacks up today as a classic much in demand.
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@70053morayfirth
@70053morayfirth Жыл бұрын
I would not care if it drove like a Lada. Opening my garage and seeing such a beautiful car would be enough. Thank you for an excellent review. At one time you could buy them for nothing.
@Kulumuli
@Kulumuli 5 ай бұрын
I wouldn't have known about this car if it wasn't on every car play card in the 70's and 80's. I knew back then as a littlie boy that this was my type of car. And I liked the Maserati Khamsin just as much.
@Schlipperschlopper
@Schlipperschlopper 3 ай бұрын
sadly soon all gas cars will be forbidden in EU and USA!!!
@autoavids
@autoavids Жыл бұрын
Epic styling and epic V8 sound that spoke to the soul. Others may be faster, but art doesn't need to be fast.
@asensibleyoungman2978
@asensibleyoungman2978 Жыл бұрын
Cheesy cliches. It looked like a Cheverolet and it was badly engineered.
@autoavids
@autoavids Жыл бұрын
@@asensibleyoungman2978 nothing cheesy about it. It's a great looking/sounding car. Like many other Alfas it may not be engineered as something German or Japanese, but it has soul.
@asensibleyoungman2978
@asensibleyoungman2978 Жыл бұрын
@@autoavids 'Soul' is just a cliche people use to cover up poorly designed and built cars.
@autoavids
@autoavids Жыл бұрын
Not a cliche, a connection, either you feel it or you don't.
@asensibleyoungman2978
@asensibleyoungman2978 Жыл бұрын
@@autoavids Some people obviously misinterpret bad handling, poor performance and inadequate development as 'soul.' It's probably the engine sound. They can't separate a good sound from a poor car. To them (i.e you) if it sounds good, it must be good, so it has 'soul.'
@martinhogg5337
@martinhogg5337 Жыл бұрын
A car that I would buy on looks alone, it is a piece of art even if is slightly disappointing to drive! Great review Jack!
@rorymacve
@rorymacve 4 ай бұрын
I had the pleasure of getting to sit in one of these recently at a car show, and to be honest, compared to other Italian sports cars of the era that I've sat in, the Lamborghini Silhouette, Miura, and the De Tomaso Pantera, this was surprisingly spacious and comfortable. I found it was even more enjoyable to sit in when compared to a Jaguar XJ-S, which felt like I was lying in a bed with the steering wheel cutting my knees off! The Montreal, for all its faults and underperformance commercially, is truly a unique thing of beauty, and I think its appeal for me is only added to by its rarity and lack of mainstream acknowledgement. To my mind the very definition of an underdog. 🙂 Also, that engine sound, woof! 😍
@Jay_Speed
@Jay_Speed Жыл бұрын
One of the most beautiful cars ever made. We had a customer in our petrol station who had one in orange and because of that I did see my first one in 1977. From that moment I always liked the Montreal.
@r1madbrit
@r1madbrit Жыл бұрын
I was 17 and went to the world's fair in Montreal from Toronto and I saw that car and fell in love with all Italian vehicles on the spot. I now live in UK and have a home in Italy near Bologna and I am STILL a fan of Italian motorcycles and cars...including the Lancia Fulvia which I first saw in England at about 20 years of age.Another love at first sight moment. Thanks for your excited love of cool cars. I do enjoy your infectious passion for cars!
@simonhodgetts6530
@simonhodgetts6530 Жыл бұрын
A remarkable looking car - like a mini Miura. A pity it didn’t live up to the exotic looks! Great headlamp covers though, and what an amazing dash design. Thanks again Jack!
@Kulumuli
@Kulumuli Жыл бұрын
It's a shame Alfa hasn't tried to mimic this car in the later years. The Giulia is somewhat pretty. But if you took away the grill it could be any car. I think they played it too safe.
@markriobr
@markriobr Жыл бұрын
Was about to say the same in my words , it does look a lot like a L Miura
@PrivateEyeYiYi
@PrivateEyeYiYi Жыл бұрын
A Miura with a front engined 200hp instead of mid mounted 375hp. Maybe it was a lot cheaper, otherwise why would anyone buy it over the Lambo?
@markriobr
@markriobr Жыл бұрын
@@PrivateEyeYiYi The guy said was a failure very few were sold . Now bet was a Pininfarina design and they look much alike , Miura is one if not the best car ever designed , had one big I mean huge problem . They would and fid went up in smoke very easy .
@michaelx9079
@michaelx9079 Жыл бұрын
@@PrivateEyeYiYi you can fit a couple of kids in the Montreal
@mikkithetrailerguy7876
@mikkithetrailerguy7876 Жыл бұрын
I just bought an orange '72 Montreal last week. Thank you for the lovely video...and the extra knowledge.
@jinggarcia
@jinggarcia Жыл бұрын
most of the best looking cars came out in the late-60s and the 70s. beautiful.
@jocelynhurtubise2420
@jocelynhurtubise2420 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I confirm as a citizen of Montreal, the International and Universal Exposition of Montreal was held in 1967. I saw the Alfa Romeo Montreal at the Italian Exposition in 1967 I was 6 years old. The styling was amazing.
@rebeccajenson2164
@rebeccajenson2164 Жыл бұрын
A car I've always loved since I was a little girl. When I saw it in a book called supercars of the 70s.
@jonathanholley8043
@jonathanholley8043 Жыл бұрын
My girlfriend at the time , her father had one , never got to go out in it , but well remember my first look when he opened the garage door to show me , fabulous looking car.
@sirjosephwhitworth9415
@sirjosephwhitworth9415 Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing one in a dealer showroom in '72/73, impressive looking car, still is. Your comment about driving it today concurs with my general feeling for any old vehicle. All the fast cars of 50 year ago, are by today's standards not any longer cutting 'la moutarde'. Appreciate them for what they are now, survivors, and drive accordingly. This will get more appreciative comments and looks from people than a new Ferrari will.
@Bob-of-Zoid
@Bob-of-Zoid Жыл бұрын
If I saw it coming, I'd jump out in front of it and insist the owner give me a tour!
@liamgross7217
@liamgross7217 Жыл бұрын
100% correct. I know what I’d rather own. Actually if I picked a year to select a garage full of cars from it would be 1967.
@lwprzybysz
@lwprzybysz Жыл бұрын
When I visited Modena several years ago I saw one being driven in the streets. It was metallic green and sounded awesome. I took a pretty bad picture of it as I just spotted it a few blocks away. But the sound and opportunity to see it running was the best thing ever. And seeing it there at home was fantastic
@neglectedloves
@neglectedloves Жыл бұрын
I simply love watching your videos, they way you talk about cars is as eloquent and flowery as if a chef was talking about delicious food... 🙏🏻
@canucklehead0
@canucklehead0 Жыл бұрын
Brother, you must have been a good boy in another life (and this one I suppose), to have had the string of cars to sample lately!! I was born in 1967 so I guess the Montreal and I both being somewhat Canadian (me a bit more if I'm honest) are siblings of a kind, although I must say the Alfa is aging much better than I am. The looks of this fabulous car always get me and being in direct competition sales-wise with the Dino can you imagine going into an Italian car sales shoppe back in like 1972 with the frightening sum of around $10K to buy insure and tax a car and seeing those two cars in the showroom? Now had Ferrari thought "You know what? Instead of our 6cyl that Enzo seems to hate why don't we buy that lovely Alfa V8 and throw a special Ferrari tune on it to maybe eek a few more rampaging Italian horses, and then stuff it into the Dino's absolutely stunning body and chassis?" Now that would have been a car and a half even by today's standards! Cannot wait to see what you'll show up in next, great and educational film!!!
@rennwolfwolfgangkriegl
@rennwolfwolfgangkriegl Жыл бұрын
Great video, Jack! 😀 The switchable horn is something my Fiat Dino Coupé has also and the manual for the car states that the louder one is for country driving, where speeds are higher and therefore road and wind noise is more present. The quieter horn is meant for city traffic. Anyways, it is a funny little quirk that only the Italians would come up with and it is endearingly charming to me. 😀 By the way, something else my Dino has two of is ignition systems. In the early 70s, Magneti Marelli built their first ever fully electronic ignition system. They must not have been entirely confident in their own product, because the Dino Coupé with the 2.4L V6 also comes with a conventional distributor ignition system , as sort of a backup in case the electronic one should ever fail. You can even switch between the two systems on the fly with the engine running, using a flip-switch on the ignition box. 😉 I love these little details! 😀
@Dwelijan
@Dwelijan Жыл бұрын
There's just a chap working on this car in his garage 200m from my house, same colour. Next time I see it, I will definitely take some time to walk around, cause it's just such a rare beast. So cool, it somehow sits price and character wise next to the first gen Mazda Cosmo in my book. Not massively overpowered, but pretty and from a brand you just wouldn't expect it. Good choice for the channel!
@roystonvehicles9129
@roystonvehicles9129 Жыл бұрын
Michael Caine ran one in a film in the early 70s,i remember reading a road test of one in 72 motor magazine
@georgherzog655
@georgherzog655 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant video, love all your enthusiasm and love for the car :-)
@machtschnell7452
@machtschnell7452 Жыл бұрын
What a great vintage car. Never sold in the USA. Did not realize it was a flat plane crankshaft. Now drive a 33 Stradale in a drive on the right country.
@aston-martin-internationalist
@aston-martin-internationalist Жыл бұрын
I saw one of these at The Classic Hub about 3 or 4 years ago and fell in love with it. Really is a very cool car.
@oceanbeliever681
@oceanbeliever681 Жыл бұрын
I love that your show is about real cars for the average joe.
@downesy68
@downesy68 Жыл бұрын
Great video Jack. Been looking forward to this one. The Montreal has been a dream car of mine since I was about 10 years old when I owned a book of dream cars and an orange Montreal just like this one was the car on the cover. Although I’ve never driven one, there are a number of them in my local Alfa Club so I get to see them quite regularly, including a beautiful orange one. They’re a special car for sure.
@jeandibb4111
@jeandibb4111 Жыл бұрын
Gorgeous thing. Always loved these and great to have a real world review, thanks Jack. Partic loved seeing underneath it (do more or those please) as it gave real insight into why the period reviews weren’t great.
@ElectricUAM
@ElectricUAM 9 ай бұрын
It was supposed to be a central position engine and Bertone was livid when Alfa decided against it at the end of the design phase. Most of my friends who have one have figured out the flaws and are more than very happy with it. Excellent video, as always!
@twauster
@twauster 7 ай бұрын
The Montreal was never planned or designed or tested with the engine behind the driver, as explained in books and articles by Alfa Romeo themselves as well as Gandini. The slats are there for purely aestethic purposes (they contain the cabin vents though) and wouldn't have worked very good as mid engine air intakes anyway. The "mid engine" myth comes from the motoring press during Expo '67 where two Montreals were on static display but couldn't be inspected up close. The two show cars had a 90hp 1600cc engine from a Giulia Super so they could move under their own power, and this engine was under the bonnet up front. Bertone was indeed livid when Alfa Romeo took it to production, but that was because they ruined its design to accommodate the relatively large, heavy and powerful V8. The prototype/show car was arguably much sleeker and better looking than the production version, but it was to compete in a market with E-type, 911, Citroën SM and Dinos where a four banger was simply out of the question. Disclaimer: I have written extensively about the Montreal and also restored one.
@hamishinglis493
@hamishinglis493 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another excellent video, this seems a particularly fine and healthy Montreal. I worked with an Alfa Romeo dealership in Edinburgh for fifteen years at the time of the Montreal and got to know them quite well. I loved the looks with a Miura DNA in the styling. The car had its handling characteristics due to the suspension design shared with the 105 series; Alfa did not really have the funds or resources to do anything else at the time, a lot of the money went into the engine which was an absolute gem both to work on and use. I remember spraying WD40 on the cam covers and engine sump to protect them as they were made of magnesium. The Montreal is one of these cars which is about how the car makes you feel rather than how fast it is. I have a preference for front engined grand touring motor cars which endeared me to the Montreal and I developed a soft spot for them. I also had experience with the Porsche 928 and Ferrari’s 365GTB/4 Daytona which rubs me up the same way; there is also a certain Aston Martin V8 Vantage (7-litre by Richard Williams). Fond memories! Amanda has excellent taste.
@stephenricketts7764
@stephenricketts7764 Жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from someone who has worked on these cars back in the day not just tinkered with them.👍
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree this is a car that’s about how it makes you feel rather than how fast it goes!!
@hughoxford8735
@hughoxford8735 Жыл бұрын
What dealership?
@hamishinglis493
@hamishinglis493 Жыл бұрын
@@hughoxford8735 Fishers Garage in Canning Street, long since closed.
@jerryb63
@jerryb63 Жыл бұрын
@@Number27 I think you’ve just summed up why so many of us love Alfas. It’s how they make you feel. I owned 3 in the 80s and drove many more of all sorts for a hire company at the time, loved them all, flaws and all - that’s part of the ‘character’ that Alfas have, mostly the engine at the heart of it. Never got to drive a Montreal though!😢 That’s a special car. Great to see so many Italian classics in your honest reviews.
@robertobernardinis3778
@robertobernardinis3778 Жыл бұрын
Jack I love your videos: the Montreal was 100% based on the Giulia chassis and, at the time of presentation at the World Fair, it was equipped with the standard 1.6 liter twin cam engine. The Canadian and North American dealers loved the look but asked for a larger engine and Alfa managed (we should say "forced the engineers") to fit the V8 (the only big engine they had) under the bonnet which, by the way, needed to be modified to accommodate the much larger engine. All in all the transplant was not successful because the weight distribution changed significantly, as you have noticed in your test drive. The Spica fuel injection system was also always problematic. Cheers from Italy
@TheMrFishnDucks
@TheMrFishnDucks Жыл бұрын
Awesome car. That colour is absolutely beautiful. Thank you to Amanda for letting this car be documented on video. Looking forward to the next video. Keep up the good work.
@robt8620
@robt8620 Жыл бұрын
I remember these cars from Top Trumps, and from seeing them in Switzerland.Always interested me and a rare sight today. , probably a more interesting ownership proposition than a Interceptor. .You manage to describe the driving experience and feeling /character of a car where many youtubers fail , Another great video jack.
@paulriggers1558
@paulriggers1558 Жыл бұрын
a lot of italian cars of that era had crap brakes, well, all the ones i drove certainly did, but they were about 7/8 years old by then. we are definitely spoiled these days, never drove a car with poor brakes for about 15yrs, but still drive plenty of poor cars. keep up the good work young man
@ryanmccormick2150
@ryanmccormick2150 Жыл бұрын
Amazing looking car Jack! The colour suite's it really well I think.... The door look very Miura inspired.... what a cool car 👍
@oliverlondon5246
@oliverlondon5246 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful car, yet very temperamental. A friend owns one and he regular pours thousands into it for repairs
@DanMosqueda
@DanMosqueda Жыл бұрын
A guy in my cars and coffee circle has one. It’s always fascinating to see it. Great video Jack. Your delivery is amazing.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan!
@benbuchanan672
@benbuchanan672 Жыл бұрын
Great video of a wonderful car. I’ve admired these for years (looked at one for £12,995 in 2003) but had no idea they were the same price as a Dino new. Shows what value they are now!
@HiNRGboy
@HiNRGboy Жыл бұрын
I only just found your channel but I already love it!! I love all these classic European cars! They're really a thing of charm and beauty unlike anything today in my opinion.
@fropple
@fropple Жыл бұрын
I really like your descriptions of how different cars feel to drive! - steering, gearbox, brakes etc 👍🏼
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Frederik, glad you enjoy the videos!
@ingvargissurarson4671
@ingvargissurarson4671 Жыл бұрын
Stunningly beutifull design but seems to have been a kind of "parts bin special" as it looks like Alfa used what was available in the shelfs at the time, no matter if it was up to the task or not. And way more beutifull in person than on pictures.
@tonysangwine-gould4733
@tonysangwine-gould4733 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for that Jack, I have seen a few recently and love the look of them and always have, but have never driven one. The thought of finding engine parts always put me off a bit. I agree with you that they are undervalued. Pretty car.
@patrickhostler5939
@patrickhostler5939 Жыл бұрын
Wow… you really are driving some amazing machines these days Jack. Despite the Alfa not being a game changer I would definitely have one in my dream garage/warehouse ❤
@TahoeRealm
@TahoeRealm Жыл бұрын
Great episode! Thank you
@nigelbullock9039
@nigelbullock9039 Жыл бұрын
Jack. Great video on a beautiful car. Well done.
@davegarfinkel5251
@davegarfinkel5251 Жыл бұрын
Having owned a bunch of ALFAs (currently 5) I can tell you that, notwithstanding the noted (for the most part accurate) negatives, the Montreal is a great car. Out of all my cars it brings the biggest smile to my face while driving and draws the most attention. Driving it is really a special experience. I think it is the fact it is so rare and unusual looking. When i'm driving it is common for people to take pics and video me. At car show people walk right by mclarens/ferraris/gt40's/etc. to gawk. Every time I get gas (it uses a lot...) people come up to ask about it. When I'm in my ferrari or porsche people ask "how's that mid-life crisis going??" In the montreal it's always "awesome car". With the Alfaholics suspension, as mine has, they handle well and are comfortable to drive for long distances. It's plenty fast, a great GT, if not sports car.
@steffydog
@steffydog Жыл бұрын
Always a great video, cheers.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and sticking with the channel!
@Jefchang1
@Jefchang1 Жыл бұрын
The two best smoothest and exciting cars I've ever own and driven were the Alfa Montreal and the Alfa GTV 2000 in the 1970s.
@danielesbordone1871
@danielesbordone1871 Жыл бұрын
My brother purchased one back in May , 1979 in Italy. Unfortunately it was totalled in an accident in August of the same year. It was a red 1971 model , the video is correct to point out some of the car's defects. The live axle at the back is just one of them , the Montreal was built on the old Giulia platform , totally inadequate for this vehicle. The engine is a true racing component , the displacement was increased from 2000cc. to 2600cc for driveability reasons and the horsepower was dropped from 240 to 200 hp. Whoever gets their hands on one of these cars should keep it because it's value will go up greatly.
@bobmcl2406
@bobmcl2406 Жыл бұрын
Interesting review, Jack. I enjoyed that. Regarding the dual tone horn, French cars also used to have a "ville" and "route" setting for the horn.
@peterrenn6341
@peterrenn6341 Жыл бұрын
My Aston V8 from 1976 has "town" and 'country" horns. The real mystery is why they thought an Italian would EVER use the quiet setting!🙂
@garrydavis3475
@garrydavis3475 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff as always jack
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank you chap!!
@cravenwildsmith9711
@cravenwildsmith9711 Жыл бұрын
Dad had 3 Alfa in the period and remember drooling over one in the workshop in York
@richardwilton722
@richardwilton722 Жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful car. I saw one at a classic car show this summer. I couldn’t take my eyes off it!
@stephenricketts7764
@stephenricketts7764 Жыл бұрын
I am not an expert on Alpha's though I like most of them.This car is so well designed in terns of looks. I would go as far as to say that the design has not dated much. Such a shame that it did not do so well at the time though the things you mentioned, oil crisis being a major factor with other cars of the time as well. I love the Alpha quirks in this, so Italian. Thanks jack for yet another great review. 👍👍
@oldanslo
@oldanslo Жыл бұрын
Alfa, not Alpha. Not an expert indeed.
@user-sy1ed9ex5m
@user-sy1ed9ex5m Жыл бұрын
Gandini was a bit unhappy with it. He later stated that he's dissapointed that Alfa decided to put the V8 in it, and for that had to raise to bonnet well above the concept car. Still, it looks amazing to me as well.
@stephenricketts7764
@stephenricketts7764 Жыл бұрын
@@oldanslo absolutely no clue why I typed Alpha? Send me to the back of the class.
@dcpete5475
@dcpete5475 Жыл бұрын
Alpha's 😂😂😂😂😂
@naiart82
@naiart82 Жыл бұрын
Loving all the Alfa content. Thank you. Most beautiful car
@dennisdose5697
@dennisdose5697 Жыл бұрын
At the center of my Leno level fantasy car collection is a whole section devoted to my favorite designer, Marcello Gandini. Absolutely includes a Montreal.
@mylesnic
@mylesnic Жыл бұрын
HOWDY JACK, LOVE THE VID ON THE MONTREAL .. WISH YOU DO ONE ON THE 33 ALFA ( I HAVE ONE. GOT IT TWENTY YEARS ) 🇦🇺
@xenboy7778
@xenboy7778 Жыл бұрын
Fabulous car, fabulous video, fabulous channel 😃
@Nord_Mann
@Nord_Mann Жыл бұрын
Love your Italian pronunciation of the foregin names❤ Saw an immaculate Montreal at the 2022 Oslo Motorshow yesterday. Wow wo wow! Also a 512BB, a 365 and a beautiful light green metallic BMW 2800 GTS very alike the Montreal. You should review one of those❤
@martinrichardhorrocks9869
@martinrichardhorrocks9869 Жыл бұрын
I think that Bertone BMW is a unique motor show special. But it would be a nice idea to compare a CSi BMW with the Montreal.
@foolishwatcher
@foolishwatcher Жыл бұрын
I always loved the looks of this car. Too bad you didn't show how the headlight louvers drop under the lights, it's hilarious to see! 😄
@blkcat6184
@blkcat6184 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I never realized that the Montreal suspension was basically stock 105. Having owned and driven a couple of 105s I can attest to the joy of steering with the throttle, but those weren't $100K+ cars. Still, with the right tweaking the 105 suspension can be made enjoyable.
@andrewbuckley2892
@andrewbuckley2892 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jack ... Nice one once again. Did meet a chap with one of these cars one time , he said the carbs were always going out of tune as the set up was never perfected. Cheers Andrew
@berolina7521
@berolina7521 Жыл бұрын
Fancy that, especially as the Montreal has no carbs, it‘s fuel injected! 😂
@andrewbuckley2892
@andrewbuckley2892 Жыл бұрын
I Stand corrected .... the fuel injection system was the problem then ! Thanks ..@@berolina7521
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Hey Andrew, nice to hear from you! I think the fuel injection on these can be troublesome… so that’s probably what the chap was referring to!
@martinrichardhorrocks9869
@martinrichardhorrocks9869 Жыл бұрын
@@Number27 Because of which quite a few were converted to carbs (can´t remember which or how). But now they get converted back and are reliable when sorted. In fact Spica is not that scary and was fitted to most US Alfas post emmissions, just unknown in Europe. It´s a mechanical system and an old school diesel tractor mechanic might not be too phased......
@TheAlfaNut
@TheAlfaNut 10 ай бұрын
Nice review Jack - the Monty is in my all-time top 3 favourite Alfas. :0)
@sammygirlie345
@sammygirlie345 Жыл бұрын
Loving the ribbed headlining you would of thought it would of ribbed right to left to match the ribbing on seats though
@Rob901
@Rob901 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. Beautiful car with a lovely engine. Just needed a better suspension
@colinsavidge9121
@colinsavidge9121 Жыл бұрын
A pizza manufacturer I dealt with had one of these. Used to pick me up from the station when I visited the factory. Great fun!
@zippy4166
@zippy4166 Жыл бұрын
Hes only gone and done it OMG chap. What a beautiful motor. Very well done jack (Si from bath)
@chrismiller9032
@chrismiller9032 Жыл бұрын
In the late 80's / early 90's this was a $15k car. Was impressive to see in the metal with the SPICA fuel injectors. Mechanical injection pump was huge. The rear differential sump was necessary for cooling from the higher power level, Think you can still get it from a German website. Also sat in a mid to late 60''s Cooper-Alfa Romeo F1 car that was crazy. Had fuel running through the roll bar..
@stoneylonesome4062
@stoneylonesome4062 Жыл бұрын
Jack, I’d love to see you review an LMX Sirex, an underrated Italian Pony Car.
@daniellee9015
@daniellee9015 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant video 👍Absolutely beautiful amazing car I love everything about it its stunning brilliant
@geoffnorton9279
@geoffnorton9279 Жыл бұрын
Another great review Jack. Err..... you mentioned the Ferrari Dino.....?
@ayebark784
@ayebark784 Жыл бұрын
Will always remember the day 30 Montreal's passed by me heading other direction a couple of years back - was accompanied by an SZ & a few 70s/80s GTVs
@rustyturner431
@rustyturner431 Жыл бұрын
OK, Jack... Well, here is one car you've reviewed that I never owned. I lived in the states when these were current, and the Montreal was never certified for US sale. I did look at one that had by some Italian magic been documented as a 1967 model, so it could be imported and sold in the USA. As an Alfisti of some standing, I was delighted...until I drove it. Great engine, great gearbox, barely adequate brakes but the chassis just wasn't up to the other parts. And the interior wasn't up to the asking price (OK, it was cheap). Plus, I had my eye on a 4-headlight Ferrari 330 2+2 that was about the same money. Bought the 330 and kept it for 20+ years.
@paulaxford6754
@paulaxford6754 Жыл бұрын
This has been one of my favorite cars along with the Iso Grifo since I saw them listed in a 1974 German car buyer's guide. I didn't know it was related to Expo '67 and I visited as a child. I've only seen one Montreal on the road, in Pt Loma San Diego, and another at a car show. But I now I wish I didn't know it has a live axle, seems out of place.
@martinlagrange8821
@martinlagrange8821 Жыл бұрын
One of my bucket-list cars. Intriguingly the p/w matches the last V6 156 (which I have now) which is also 1300kg wet with the 2.5l 24V Busso putting out 200bhp and 200nm torque - which is amazing to think about.
@philipdubuque9596
@philipdubuque9596 Жыл бұрын
Put me down as a lover of all things Alpha. I've always had a soft spot in my heart (and head?) for the marque. With this model we can certainly invoke the word 'unique' without abusing the adjective. This is not the only video review of the Montreal but it is the best. Thanks for another brilliant episode!
@stinkertoy4310
@stinkertoy4310 Жыл бұрын
ALFA!!!!! Not alpha, he said to the “alpha lover”.
@cnm_quore
@cnm_quore Жыл бұрын
Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili
@eze8970
@eze8970 Жыл бұрын
Thank Jack, what a great car! Can we get more of the interior please? Thanks for the review! 🙏🙏
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Thank dude.. next time will try and include more interior shots!
@jeremyaustin9103
@jeremyaustin9103 Жыл бұрын
Please can you do a review of a really well sorted Staaag. Really great review as per
@aussieausdeutschland4245
@aussieausdeutschland4245 Жыл бұрын
That front with those lights... WOW! What a beautiful car, I love the Italians automotive style from the late 60s and 70s, especially those from Alfa Romeo and Lamborghini.
@dallisb1047
@dallisb1047 Жыл бұрын
I am living vicariously through you Jack!
@71ala
@71ala Жыл бұрын
I disagree on the heading about the Montreal being a "flop". With 3900 units built of what was an extremely complex (for its time) race-derived V8 GT, built by a brand that was already a generalist and didn't have the aura of Maserati or Ferrari, this was a damn good result. In the same period, 1100 Maserati Indys and 2800 Ferrari 308 GT4 were built, and perhaps 10,000 Porsche 911 S Coupes. So 3900 was not so bad considering the 1973 fuel crisis killed its market!
@henryhol8538
@henryhol8538 Жыл бұрын
I have been looking forward to this. For me, this cars claim to fame is that it did the first boy/girl fun car race scene with Michael Caine against a Porsche 911 that was later replicated in Mission Impossible 2 and Goldeneye!
@BlueHopi144
@BlueHopi144 Жыл бұрын
One of the most beautifully designed Italian ever !!! a masterpiece ! lovely to see
@alanstonelake2673
@alanstonelake2673 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jack. Would love to see you review the sz from the 90s
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Working on it Alan!!
@alanstonelake2673
@alanstonelake2673 Жыл бұрын
@@Number27 ahh fantastic
@MGBranco
@MGBranco Жыл бұрын
Love the dials!
@PETERNESS
@PETERNESS Жыл бұрын
Here in Australia there is a youtube channel called The Skid Factory,they build the most amazing cars ,if you have a long last younger brother then ive found him and hes name is Woody from The Skid Factory,love this channel glad to be a subscriber
@db111
@db111 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the education, never heard of this one, probably be shot for this one but have the Japanese, possibly Toyota, pinched some of this design or vice versa, more likely the former. Anyway great video, keep up the good work as I'm sure you will!
@michaelstaley2241
@michaelstaley2241 Жыл бұрын
Excellent Jack lovely car classic Italian😊
@-DC-
@-DC- Жыл бұрын
Loved these since I was a kid, A very special car indeed regardless of how it drives.
@jabbalechat7910
@jabbalechat7910 Жыл бұрын
TBH, I couldn't care less what the critics said at the time, I've always loved this car from the day I first saw one . Thanks for another great video... 👍👏😻
@scottjohnson4319
@scottjohnson4319 Жыл бұрын
After the 105 stylistically I think this was a step backward but the again compared to a GTA isn't almost everything? Thanks for bringing this to our attention Jack and letting us know what it's like beneath is very distinctive skin.
@rhettcorcoran2879
@rhettcorcoran2879 Жыл бұрын
It is a great looking car, interesting video, as ever.
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Cheers chap!
@magicalwishlist6616
@magicalwishlist6616 7 ай бұрын
It’s a thing of beauty. I was at the Alfa Museum and it sat proudly with all those other beautiful cars.
@The_Original_Geoff_B
@The_Original_Geoff_B Жыл бұрын
I have wanted a Montreal since seeing my first (parked at school) in about '74 or '75. It was utterly gorgeous, and still is.
@rientsdijkstra4266
@rientsdijkstra4266 Жыл бұрын
There are other video's YT where you get much more of the engine sound, and its one of the best sounding engines I have ever heard.
@babylon5mh
@babylon5mh 5 ай бұрын
I always loved the look of these. I wouldn't care how it drives, I would be happy just having it to look at. It's a masterpiece in my eyes ........ the color is spot on as well
@forestghost7
@forestghost7 4 ай бұрын
I had my 73 for 9 awesome yrs. Want to know how it REALLY drove? See my comments above 😊
@dadcars
@dadcars Жыл бұрын
The interior is glorious! That headliner 😍 I’ll soon have the the space to get myself a classic car, rear seats in classics open up lots of possibilities. How much do these sell for in 2022?
@Number27
@Number27 Жыл бұрын
Around £50k I think…
@dadcars
@dadcars Жыл бұрын
@@Number27 it is a very good looking car 👏
@macmakka8214
@macmakka8214 Жыл бұрын
The sound is very throaty if feel far more exotic that other Alfas , in 84 I test drove a Muira but it was $29,000 my budget was $7-8k , next a Montreal it was $11k with the owner refusing any negotiations, a glanced at a mint 911 E that was $13k But bought the Alfetta GTV for $7k , kinda wish I’d sold a Kidney & bought the Montreal. 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful skill .
@3DPrintingFreak
@3DPrintingFreak Жыл бұрын
This car reminds reminds me of an old colleague, he been rebuilding one for like 25years. He had 1 to rebuild and 2 donors
@otsef1946
@otsef1946 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jack I have owned two 105 GTV 1750 ,I loved the handling and the looks where perfect. Which brings me to the Montreal's looks, the body seems to be to wide . I'm not explaining this very well but the wheels seem to be lost that body. 🤔
@kikobarros76
@kikobarros76 Жыл бұрын
loved it!!! we had alfa romeos built in Brazil!!!
@grahamsimper5342
@grahamsimper5342 Жыл бұрын
Great car, for those that don't know a Montreal you should have shown the way the headlight covers work! Now that is quirky! 😀
@salamander5703
@salamander5703 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like an American car because they mostly have 90degree cranks as well. 90deg crank V8 engines have perfect primary and secondary balance so are very smooth. The US sound comes because they fire two cylinders (at 90 deg intervals) on one bank, then two on the other, and so on. Gives that nice burble effect with twin exhausts.
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