Beautiful, but missing something... - Beyerdynamic Xelento Wireless

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Audio expert Dan is here with the help of Labs to find out if Beyerdynamic's new Xelento Wireless earbuds live up to the hefty price tag with superb audio quality, or if they're just a fashion piece for the wealthy.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Dan's in love
0:41 Unboxing
2:09 Design impressions
4:05 Sponsor - dbrand
4:23 Setup and app
6:08 Listening impressions
7:10 Testing results from Labs
8:34 Listening with adjusted EQs and additional thoughts
11:33 Overall thoughts
12:17 Outro

[@PrisOwner16]

I love Dan as a host. He has knowledge, a dry sense of humour and a very relaxing voice. Would love to see him present video's on LTT as well.

[@skunklabs_official]

If feels like a conversation between friends. He’s a class act.

[@N4BUT]

Asmr at its best

[@notsus6956]

The master chief of llt

[@writtenradio]

His voice reminds me of an NPR host.. In my opinion him and Riley both have the on screen charisma to make it as TV Stars.

[@DracoDraconis666]

Somehow combining nervous energy with a relaxing voice. I don’t hate it😂

[@notoriusc]

I’m not sure if this is something you or the people in the lab can control, but as a color blind person I would love if you could have the two colors on the graphs be more contrasting, or further away from each other on the color spectrum. I understand if you would doing a huge round up you might need to use as many colors as possible. But on graphs that are two, or three products compared I would appreciate if you could try to separate them, because I had to ask which one was which 😂. But other than that I loved the video and great job Dan!

[@AdrianSchwartzmann]

Agree I struggled seeing what line was for what product. It could also help to make one line solid and one dotted.

[@walkinmn]

That's a very good point, and a very fair request. I'm currently studying data visualization and one of the things I learned is to make your graphs and visualizations work for people with some form of color blindness and many tools already have options to make this kind of adjustment almost automatic. So I hope the LMG reads this.

[@alidan]

you dont need to make them different colors, just one is a solid line, the product, and one is a dotted or dashed line, the comparison.

[@WovenSilver902]

Maybe put a letter next to the color code and put the same letter in the bar in represents so its not based on colors but letters as well for people that are color blind.

[@masterkairi7933]

@@AdrianSchwartzmann agreed im not color blind but im dumb so assistance would help me since my solor spectrum shifts on different days i have to turn up my color and back down later i have color perception drops from staring at the sun .....also 1199 is too much we need a flagship thats affordable flagship shouldnt mean costly should mean comanies care and want us to have the best for affordable...

[@craigWS]

Dan is really peaking recently. More Dan please 🙏🏼

[@OldestHouse]

you sure about that? he has been on the team and making video for months, yet each and every fucking time dan hosts a video, people like you act like it's his first week

[@craigWS]

@@OldestHouse just breathe Steve

[@bzboii]

Peaking, but not in the loud bad audio way

[@Road2Rally]

@@OldestHouse I think he's saying that because Dan gives great reviews and advice that most can get behind.

[@kurt120032002]

if this is his peak competence, I don't want to know when he f..ed up.

[@blumac9801]

We’ve been blessed with another video from Dan

[@sardarwaliullah]

is Dan the new Anthony? 🤔

[@moldyshishkabob]

@@sardarwaliullah He's sassy Anthony.

[@ryanwestfall5385]

LTT should make an audio book of Dan reading instructions that I could use to fall asleep at night. His voice is so relaxing and comforting.

[@Zeldur]

They do have a children's book now. His voice would be great for that

[@dare2dan]

That's what Buildzoid is for.

[@MasterJack2]

Dan has a therapeutic voice, he knows what he is talking about and has the beard i wish I had.

[@Gray_Ti]

tbh, I think being knowledgeable about audio as Dan here, isn't necessarily a good thing. If you have a very distinctive audio taste you'll be very picky. The beard though everyone agrees here. :)

[@fractera]

You mean boring?

[@lilaclullaby]

I would like to second this comment, there are some people I have to mute because my brain cant handle certain peoples voices so I just read the subs.

[@Idontcarewhathandleihave]

I really like hearing Dan talk about headphones and audio, however I don’t know if I’ve ever heard him honestly recommend a product on short circuit. It would be nice to Dan talk give a “best audio for your budget” round-up video and hear not only what his recommendations are but how to get the most for your money as far as how to tune an audio experience.

[@walkinmn]

As an audio enthusiast who loves earbuds and iem's I loved Dan's review, he really knows what he's talking about and it shows. I also love his sense of humor.

[@Diijkstra]

MORE IEMS AND HEADPHONES PLEASE. We need people to be aware of these expensive IEMS and they might not like the sounds/comfort. really a great help

[@Solfen_]

I don't usually weigh in on things like this, but I really think they missed the mark hard here. In terms of no other wireless headphones not being able to hit the same performance mark for the same or close money, the Fiio LC-BT2 neckband which comes in both of the IEM standard connections (MMCX, 2pin) is 100 USD, and can be used with any IEM that uses those standard connections. And the battery lasts for ages. The neckband in the video has what appears to be non-standard connections, which means that the neckband is compatible with that IEM, and maybe others put out by Beyer. Likewise, the competition in the 800-1200 USD price range for IEM's is STEEP. You have incredible options in this segment, most of which I would take over these Beyers based on its frequency curve. In the same price range, you could get a THIEAudio Monarch Mk2, Campfire Andromeda 2020, DUNU Zen Pro, Moondrop Variations, DUNU SA6, Sennheiser IE 600, Ect. I would take any of those over these Beyers, and with the exception of the Sennheisers, they all have standard connections that make them compatible with the thousands of other high grade consumer audio products out there. I would infinitely rather have a Fiio LC-BT2 Neckband and something like a THIEAudio Monarch MK2 for the same price as this. Id rather have the neckband and the Moondrop Variations for half the price of this.

[@moonrazk]

I only recently started looking into IEMs, but I'm pretty sure I've seen that connection on another pair, not by Beyer.

[@Cupzero007]

@@moonrazk they said on their website it's MMCX, so yeah you're correct

[@alidan]

I will argue with you that instead of variations, blessing 2 with an eq to boost bass, if you are willing to pay variations price, may as well just go all in on monarch mk2. this was genuinely hard to watch once they showed the graph and then the price. I would also argue 7hz salnotes zero over their iems based of the graph alone and looking at people who got more than 1 sample and how wildly different they graph.

[@JairRiveraFotografo]

You realize this channel is not LTT but Shortcircuit, right?

[@abdulamar9907]

Finally someone who knows his IEMs! Yeah, I was never impressed by the Xelentos, and the V shaped sig makes it worse. My Monarch mk1 runs circles around it, and I just need either that Fiio adapter or the BTR series and it's just as good. And of course, the Variations are top tier and way, way cheaper as well. These things are hilariously awful in comparison.

[@Dylan-jj4dz]

Great that you are adding frequency responses to these videos now. If possible could we get a techquickie how to read these? It'd also be really helpful if there was a target curve like the harman IEM curve. Its hard to tell what the lines indicate without a target

[@deki9784]

I think the reason why they're using the APP2 is because the B&K 5128 isn't Harman compliant, meaning that you can't just put the Harman target on the graph as compared to the older GRAS rigs. As of right now, Harman has not published their 5128-compensated Harman target (Damn you Samsung) so we could only compare to other IEMs

[@falsemcnuggethope]

It would be interesting to tear these down and see which chips they use. Many probably share the same chips.

[@adamgarlow5347]

There are so many good IEMs from moondrop and others that are metal well built great sounding units that can be upgraded with excellent wireless adapters for much less money.

[@TheBrokenEclipse]

Awesome to see the lab results!

[@mastaboog749]

Glad you are doing a review on these, kind of interested in these

[@neoburst1]

One point to note is that the buds look like they use a regular mmcx connector so I'm theory you could use these buds with a regular cable or adapt other mmcx buds to be wireless

[@mcslender2965]

If that's true then what an oversight to omit that

[@fl4shb4ckGaming]

I believe they come with said cable to use wired. Could be wrong though, they cost more than my last 2 cars combined

[@cooldownloadsforfree]

Love the charts you guys are doing with labs!!! Are you able to make the colors more contrasting in future videos? Between my eyes and my phone it's hard to tell. Love you LTT Fam! Have a great 2023!

[@codys1108]

That was the most lukewarm review on a product at such a high price point. Hilarious lol. Dan is quickly one of my favorites.

[@jamescruz8678]

That's audio for ya. You can spend $10k on a single pair of IEMs and find out that it's absolute garbage worth less than the bargain bin stuff you find at Value Village.

[@PheonixRise666]

@@jamescruz8678 nah. But maybe worth less than some chi-fi stuff (KZ for example)

[@Drn10n]

I really like the high end audio showcases. It gives information on products not many can review and many of those who can are hard to trust.

[@rbcarmen]

"I call him nipples coz he only comes up to here" - this made me LOL perfect delivery! Dan is such a calm anarchist LMFAO

[@whalemonstre]

And me - nearly spat out my tea 😂

[@no_ideaman]

Oh and thanks for not forcing Dan into LTT gear :)

[@LightPink]

A very important alternative you should have mentioned is using a small Bluetooth receiver (like the fiio btr5) with some other wired headphones.

[@deki9827]

Ayy nuggets are always good.

[@alexanderdiogenes8067]

Thick foamy squish tips are the best for when you have sealing issues. They don't last forever, but I try to get ahold of them for IEMs whenever possible

[@redmage08]

Dan's voice is so good

[@fhm4]

I love Dan! I wanna see more of him in videos.

[@sushimshah2896]

Been waiting for this!!

[@DaimyoD0]

For $1,200, the app should have more than just preset controls for an equalizer.

[@1967CougarXR7]

For $1,200 they shouldn't need anything.

[@lathrael7152]

At that price i would expect a BJ from app. I know it's an entirely different product range but you can get HD 800 for that price when it's on sale.

[@DaimyoD0]

@@1967CougarXR7 I agree, but I think some people are still going to want to adjust the sound profile to their personal tastes. Like even with a hypothetical, perfectly neutral sound, some people are going to want to maybe increase the bass a little, just for media consumption. And then have the option to make them flat and accurate again to use them while video editing, in a pinch, if they don't have their usual cans with them for example. So having the option of an equalizer, preferably one with fine control, is always nice, and kind of expected at this range IMO. But I completely agree, the fact that the sound profile they displayed seemed to suggest these struggle to compare with AirPods Pros, which aren't even _all_ that neutral of headphones, despite being a fraction of the cost, it leaves a lot to be desired. It's like you're just paying for the metal housing and little else.

[@ugur3527]

@@1967CougarXR7 ear canal length and shape (flat or sinuous) is changing the sound of the IEM. It's not worth to consider for average consumer but it could be a bit annoying for enthusiasts. That's why you need equaliser. But this does not mean this IEM is good. Good IEM should have good frequency response but this does not have that and it's very pricey.

[@MrSiKO12]

His voice is sooo relaxing

[@juzujuzu4555]

First time seeing this dude, and already liking him. Calm, knowledgeable, fair attitude. Hard to put on words, but keep this man in the screen :)

[@bluephreakr]

He's more tame since he started - earlier Dan videos have a calm anger vibe to them.

[@tardisgrade]

Dan has been doing a bunch of audio product reviews on the channel lately.. you should check his other stuff out.

[@EnsignLovell]

Dan's the man, honestly I love seeing him host, other LTT hosts are awesome for sure, but I just like Dan for some reason. He's much more calm and to the point, and honestly I just find his voice rather soothing on the ears, but then I am rather sensitive to "whiny" voices, there's really no other way I can word that without sugar coating it in a confusing manner lol.

[@whitestar618]

So did labs run the tests again after the firmware update? how often do these kind of devices need updates? thanks everyone and I hope you enjoy the new year! (and all of the religious holidays as well if you partake).

[@AliArghavan]

Shure SE535 is outclassed for some time now. For 500$ you can buy Thieaudio Oracle, Moondrop Varation or Dunu SA6 which are all miles ahead of SE535 and SE846.

[@Whiteshade]

I was looking for this comment. He must be out of game years ago.

[@Silicon_0014]

Might want to put the harman target somewhere on the graphs next time. Lol nice feature of the blessing 2 dusk (they fit nice and snug deep as long as your willing to suffer for a few days to stretch your earhole for that 7mm nozzle).

[@deki9784]

I think they're using the B&K 5128 for measuring which isn't Harman compliant. Harman does have a 5128-compensated Harman target for them but Samsung barred them from disclosing it to the public.

[@nickphillips3411]

Hell yeah another Dan video!

[@TJMartinek]

I lvoe a good Dan video, and I'm very excited to see information coming from labs!

[@myplane150]

Listening to Dan, I feel like he should be painting a picture of little birdies and cute trees with puffy beautiful clouds. You know, happy paintings...☺

[@Cobb]

Does labs have a set up for measuring ANC performance? Would love to see data on who the top performers are and by how much they differ.

[@misterj3012]

Damn... Is Dan that nervous or why does he shake that much 🤯🤯🤯 And tbh... I can't even solder because i'm shaking that much all the time 😢😢😢

[@Blearky]

Awesome video. Honest review, nicely and funny done, and the comparisson vs apple and followed conclusion is just perfect. One question for the lab. The "head" was showen in one of the LTT videos for measurement if that is what is meant by "the lab" I do not know if this would make sense (or is even possible) to capture audio the microphone picks up. Then there could be also a Audio comparisson (even with YT compression). Anyhow awesome video thank you for making it. Keep it up.

[@henene4]

I have the SE535s with the Bluetooth dongle - and they do sound pretty amazing. But I had to get mine replaced under warranty once already after not quite 9 months.

[@OledBurnInKing]

I have the shure se215 but I had to go thru so many shure cables because the cable would fraye very easily and I ended up getting a pair of fiio fa1 iems and the cable is built better since the cable is flexible and was even cheaper. I mainly used the shure se215 for making phone calls because of the in line mic but the shure cables are not bendable especially when I had to wear them to get a really good seal and the cable needs to be bent when adjusting them and the shure cables would just break way too easily. There are mixed reviews on amazon about certain mmcx cables that have an in line mic. I also have the moondrop quarks the non dsp version since it has an in line mic but i have them as a back up pair of iems plus they are cheaper than any bluetooth headphones and sound better than any bluetooth headphones.

[@ShrkBiT]

Not having a customizable EQ with $1200 wireless headphones is unforgivable to me, especially if the presets are all bad. There's plenty of more mainstream priced products that do let you EQ and get within at least 90-95% range of these exclusive high priced ones at a fraction of the price.

[@brettmaddan3255]

I like Dan, he looks "normal" but clearly is not. He is well educated and technically knowledgable, but also the correct amount of silly. Personable, but also strangely good at making me feel uncomfortable. Polite, but would tell you nasty things in a fun way. 10/10 would recommend.

[@lev3k]

The neckband is a fantastic form factor and they need to make more of them

[@andrewsphone84]

Do an Amazon search this has been a massively popular form factor since before true wireless earbuds when you needed the big neckband to fit the battery and electronics.

[@chrismanning5232]

Had neckband ear buds from Samsung like 6+ years back. The band irritated the skin on the back of my neck over time and the weird hanging weight is hard to ignore. There's a reason this design has fallen out of favor.

[@LightPink]

Why not get a Bluetooth receiver that can be used with any wired headphones?

[@alidan]

@@LightPink cheap ones color the sound, and good ones are in the 70-140$ range and need to be factored into a purchase, granted, no matter what you buy, the 7hz zero, blessing 2, monarch mk2 (the only iems that realistically matter) it comes out cheaper than this crap they reviewed.

[@sleepykirbo6392]

went full circle from wired headphones

[@trixdahalt]

More dan!

[@alloysiouschin4675]

he has such a radio voice ... so good

[@paul-andregonzalezaldana7094]

I love this calm and relaxing voice of Dan.

[@iceleon25]

As someone on who doesn't know how to read the frequency graph, a video about it would be lovely

[@Neoxon619]

It’s been a long time since I’ve seen one of these wired wireless earbuds. I actually have a pair, just not nearly as expensive as this.

[@emilhelander]

This style is by far my least favorite, I would much rather just use the cable or have air pods style tws. I find that the cable gets really annoying around my neck..

[@josuelservin]

@@emilhelander I found this form factor really useful because I need to take them off and on constantly, I prefer this to true wireless most of the time, especially if they have touch controls, that's a big no for me.

[@sunderkeenin]

@@emilhelander Not losing the IEMs is great and in theory these sort of neck types can have better battery life with less compromise on using more of the IEM's body for drivers/audio. This is supposed to be a tradeoff, and it feels like the tradeoff has not yet been made properly compelling.

[@FomeDH]

$1200 for any set of headphones that are meant to be used over bluetooth seems ridiculous to me. you are absolutely right about buying 4 pairs of airpods and being better off. maybe i’m just biased though as i’m wearing my airpod pro 2s rn and have loved them since day 1

[@cfilorvyls457]

1200 is about the start of high end earphones too, so even ignoring the wireless function it's not that appealing either. Not to mention there are other options of using high end earphones wirelessly that doesn't involve any wires at all.

[@PCUser1024]

Focal Bathys

[@Zepherr1337]

I would rather buy 4 pairs of sonys earbuds then apples trash.

[@diron1270]

More Dan content and more audio/audiophile content would be awesome!

[@geekofband007]

The wireless is interesting but at $1200 it's a rly tough buy when I could get a pair of moondrop blessing 2 dusk and Galaxy buds pro 2 for $500. One of the best Wired and Wireless IEM for less then half the price. Heck if u wanted that nice metal build quality you could even do the Sennheiser IE600 and Pro 2 and still come in under the Beyer's.

[@Ghost-pb4ts]

based

[@NeonTheWeeb]

Wavelet is such a great software for audio eq. They have a regular eq and the ability to use peq with AutoEQ

[@jamescruz8678]

Can second Wavelet, the best free EQ on Android. If you want an excellent paid option, there's Poweramp EQ, which has PEQ (in beta, last time I checked) and, with a bit of easy ADB trickery, you can have it work nearly systemwide; it only fails if the app does not support EQ.

[@sgoldcreatives]

Have dan do all of the reviews from now on

[@Wanooknox]

I hope Dan reads these comments sometimes and sees how much people love him. Dan's freaking great! 😄

[@zink759]

Dan, where'd you get that sweater? I usually hate sweaters, but that looks like one I'd enjoy.

[@NateWheeler1]

Dan is fantastic. I definitely feel like I can trust his perspective.

[@Whooperchain]

@Dan was that "certificate of authenticity" tone a reference to the Hanwei Elite Katana unveiling video? If so, you are my hero

[@umbra1016]

4:27 Why is it one of the cutest things to hear Dan saying "just boop Linus' nose here"

[@RenatoG1848]

Dan is the Morgan Freeman of LTT

[@5urg3x]

I had a Sleek audio wireless thing that was exactly like this many years ago. The problem is that it was expensive and had no way to service the battery, which is the one part that is guaranteed to wear. Also had unacceptable latency and couldn’t be used to monitor live performances or playing guitar or a vocal mic, etc.

[@RurouTube]

Personally I would prefer to just buy an IEM at $300 range and pair it with a bluetooth cable, which is actually the setup that I currently use (just not with $300 IEM but much cheaper IEM). For me personally, this is a much better setup than buying a true wireless IEM since like mentioned in the video, it should be much harder to lose your buds, and also if the battery gone bad, you don't have to throw away an IEM that still producing good sound. Of course normally it doesn't have ANC or pass-through, but usually the seal is good enough and for pass-through, I can just wear it a bit loose, thus allowing more ambient sound to go through, and if I want to talk to someone, I can just remove the IEM and let it dangling .

[@Klinkertinlegs]

This. You could get IEMs and a FiiO Bluetooth receiver/DAC and have several hundred dollars left compared to these.

[@randompizza220]

I like Dan for audio related short circuits.

[@jax1670]

When are we going back to IEM unboxing/reviews guys

[@Mister_kipling]

Dan is the Christmas gift I want under my tree 🎁 🎄

[@samlague4409]

Yay another Dan video. He’s a great host.

[@jannmuller4414]

we need more Dan

[@RenatsMC1]

Relaxing and calimg voice should get sponsor from Headspace with Dan

[@dedoyxp]

neckband is better than tws imo. If in any case you want to unplug the earphone, you dont need to find the case to secure the earbud, just keep it dangling in your neck and use it again.

[@josuelservin]

This! I found this form factor super convenient, plus the battery is usually better without the need of a case, and touch controls are usually a mess in earphones so the tactile buttons not directly on your ear is just great.

[@aceofclubskid]

These don't seem to nail sound quality, which is a real shame. However, I love the approach they've taken in terms of design. They managed to combine two products with the main features of each. IEM's typically have great build quality and sound, they're very durable and you can swap the cables if and when they get damaged. wireless earbuds (technically wireless IEM's, but whatever) often have app support and easy pairing, nice quality-of-life features, but have comparably lackluster sound for the price. The problem is that many people don't want wired IEM's nowadays, but wireless stuff is packed with tech and prone to wearing out very quickly compared to wired audio gear. Beyerdynamic took some of the best features of each product and rolled them into one. When the Bluetooth adapter dies, you can not only still use these wired, but you can also replace the Bluetooth adapter with a different model. Or, you could even swap the IEM piece and make any of your other IEM's wireless, with app support to boot. It's a first stab at a new product type, but I love the innovation and can't wait to see this kind of thing become more affordable.

[@turtledovechen176]

The other options is buying a nice pair of IEM from Sennheiser or any IEM that you like with standard connecter,than buy a wireless neck loop thing from Sennheiser or audio-technica

[@csisdustin]

how about taking an ear exam before purchase, and making a chart to sync the pods output? for this kinda moola, I'd want peak connectivity.

[@user-cg3ut9bt3z]

Would have been interested in how they sounded wired. Not surprised they would sound lacking with included Bluetooth neckband.

[@Xanthelei]

Darn, I was watching to see if they used a certain kind of connector for the buds themselves. I would have been interested if they were compatible with my KBears that I love, but alas, they are not.

[@Lun1X_X]

Man i love Dan as a host.

[@NoLongo]

I would hope any bluetooth headphones being released these days can support the "upcoming" Bluetooth LE audio/LC3 codec. Something that has always prevented me from buying expensive wireless is that bluetooth just doesnt hold a candle to wires. And also you need the latest phone to support bluetooth 5.2 in the first place

[@TrioLOLGamers]

The Bluetooth standard is a completely mess: LDAC is from Sony, APTX is from Snapdragon (and to have Aptx HD they have to pay to have that feature. That's why Samsung doesn't have it on their phone), SBC is from Samsung, iPhone wants only sh*tty AAC. I've bought a good DAC with APTX HD some years ago. Some months ago I've bought a Samsung phone and it sounds awful because the dac only support APTX and the phone support only the base version of APTX... The dac went from sounding decent to completely sh*t on my setup. On a jack, type C, or any standard way of delivering data you don't have any of these issues: the audio starts from the phone dac and goes into the magnet. The end. One standard connector.

[@oscarpinochet]

@@TrioLOLGamers well fiio btr7 support both codecs, ldap nad aptx. currently i am using them with ldac on my samsung galaxy s22 ultra. ans it sound great.

[@RileyJustHappened]

Love Dan so much.

[@djemergency512]

Prefer a balanced armature in-ear monitors for like a 1/8th of the price.....

[@no_ideaman]

It's not like it hasn't been mentioned enough but YEEEY; Hi Dan! :D

[@cupcakeobsession]

DO MORE IEM REVIEWS. i also want to know your thoughts on the current Chi-Fi Market

[@lostcosmos3245]

MOAR reviews from Dan! Awesome host!

[@MareLooke]

Hi LTT folks, love these reviews, and I do appreciate the labs graphs, but...could you please, please, please, use some different colours for them in the future, or different line styles. I'm Red/Green colourblind here and I had some major trouble with which line was which on these.

[@hanstubben]

"wired" wireless buds are a good idea on paper, but in reality there are far to much points where it can go wrong. Sooner or later the wire part between neck band and volume module will break. Loved the sound and security of not losing the Jaybirds, but 2 sets didn´t last 3 years

[@dedoyxp]

I can't see the thick rubber band wire like on the vids will break anytime soon... I could see it'll break easily if its a thin wire like most jaybirds model I searched. My huawei Freelace last me more than 3 years and still keep me entertained.

[@jamescruz8678]

I've been using neckband-style wireless IEMs years now and the only part that's failed (and only once) was a faulty charger. No broken wires, no loose ends. It helps that neckbands like these are usually made for more athletic use cases too.

[@Kraecktus]

anybody notice the dbrand link has a typo in the description?

[@Green011]

I love you Dan...

[@ToastierJet3082]

Idk if I missed it but in what universe can you justify a $1200 pricetag for in ear earphones? Also what are in ear monitors?

[@nebnollock5198]

I'd be interested to see a budget iem review now you have the lab. I rock a pair of blon bl 03 iem's and they have no right sounding as good as they do for how much they cost.

[@FoxCoast]

the dbrand ad read was wild

[@Alepap.]

0:00 I went wireless earbuds thinking it will fix all of my annoyances with cables. As it turns out ,it introduces many more annoyances that just aren't present with wires. i'd take wired iems anytime. (and you can use true wireless adapters/ earhooks to make them wireless if they have detachable cables.) get andromedas or blessing 2 with wireless adapters cheaper and better

[@dr-sleepless]

I would really like Dan and or the labs to try some headphones with some audio engines like ViperFX or similar

[@chestnutrice9855]

you guys should get some chifi iems to review. you'll be surprised how cheap they are for their great sound

[@fredericktennant9151]

Oh dear, you did not test them in fully wired mode worst still what Bluetooth version was it using we need to know

Comparisons sake, similar price would be Shure SE846 Pro CL with Shure True Wireless 2 (for single brand easy to purchase wireless option) or some of the other BT modules on pretty much any around 1K iem... So it's not like there's no competition in that price range even wireless. With wires there's tons more of course.

[@Mueller3083]

short linus link in the desc has a comma in it by mistake

[@DarkBloodyFoxy]

Damn they have very clear V-shape frequency response. Audiophile community usually hates V-shape and those are clearly marketed towards audiophiles. The are some better IEMs available for lower price though usually you need to spend some extra for wireless TWS or BT-cable “adapters”. Or even balanced cable if you are into DAPs with balanced outs (they are cool and give you much more amplification)

[@damagecase13]

I would absolutely love to see more IEM reviews by Dan!! I've just started my descent into the IEM rabbit hole and started with the Zex Pro CRN. Id love to see Dan start with chifi iems and work his way up. Plzzzz

[@nathansstuff1547]

Looks like they have an MMCX connector, so could they technically be used as a wired IEM?

[@therealmax69]

You should review some kz in ear monitors. I think people would find it useful

[@jeremyvrooman1467]

they look pretty nice, but why earbuds that you have to plug in per ear bud when there's earbuds with the same style already connected?

[@ZardozXerxes]

He calls out the 3k bump in the airpods in the frequency analysis & attributes it to Beyerdynamic. Unless the graph is marked up wrong. No corrections are made though.

[@puppet-head]

I’m not convinced a chi-fi wired set wouldn’t be as good, time for a proper test of the chi-fi marker.

[@fastgecko5799]

They literally won't review stuff that isn't some form of wireless (or it doesn't seem like it anyway)

[@Michael_mki233]

Any of the Thieaudio IEMs in the $500+ price would be better. Unique Melody Mest MKI/MKII, price comparable stuff from Fearless Audio and SeeAudio. Kinera Nanna Imperial 2.0. Plenty of chi-fi IEMs that would be as good or better than these from a pure sonic standpoint.

[@jamescruz8678]

moondrop review when

[@jamescruz8678]

@@fastgecko5799 I mean they _have_ done a showcase of the weed Grados lol They won't ever do proper reviews on the main LTT channel aside from showing off tech but in Short Circuit, I can see it.

[@diron1270]

@@jamescruz8678 they did a shortcircuit video on the IE 600 too I think, but that's about it

[@TENGILL]

Whats with the blip at the end of the video?