Music Snob perspective on Pink Floyd

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@davidjohnsen3245
@davidjohnsen3245 3 жыл бұрын
The Wall's ending is actually pretty sad when you realize it's all a cycle and loops back to the beginning of the album. It technically ends where the album begins. The final words on the album are "isn't this where". And the first words are "we came in".
@andrewpappas9311
@andrewpappas9311 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's insane
@conormurphy4328
@conormurphy4328 3 жыл бұрын
@D ok buddy
@Vivi_9
@Vivi_9 3 жыл бұрын
@D have a biscuit
@lambsauce9404
@lambsauce9404 3 жыл бұрын
@D Damn you must be fun at parties
@drefishe1451
@drefishe1451 3 жыл бұрын
@D because you have a profound and deep understanding of the personal lives and beliefs of all the band members in Floyd, right?
@dimitarvel1441
@dimitarvel1441 3 жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd's music isn't super complex, it is just very artistic to the point where it becomes progressive. Keep in mind, progressive music doesn't have to be complex (look up the definition). I personally find myself gravitating more towards the concept than the music but both the music and the concept are intriguing and worth of respect.
@RoverWaters
@RoverWaters 3 жыл бұрын
thats because it's rooted in blues, not jazz
@itkojecockot
@itkojecockot 3 жыл бұрын
yes, they are not complex in sense of instrumental intricacy(like Yes or fusion bands), but when it comes to their songwriting, it is quite complex...... long tracks with several different parts, rhythm changes, different arrangements....... Floyd are definitely more complex and prog-y than the regular commercial music "verse-chorus-verse-chorus-solo-chorus" formula...... on top of that also incredibly intelligent lyricwriting
@Hy-jg8ow
@Hy-jg8ow 2 жыл бұрын
But why do seemingly everyone rush [no pun intended] to shit on complexity? I find that rhythmic and harmonic complexity gives me a cerebral joy which can't be replaced by anything else. Maybe there should be a genre called "complex rock", and then "progressive" would not be such a coveted adjective, nor one used to bash complex, but not ground-braking music.
@wesleycolemanmusic
@wesleycolemanmusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@micshazam842 I think of progressive rock as not being based on how a band's influence progressed rock, but rather how the band itself pushed the boundaries of what was expected or acceptable in its time. The subtle distinction renders bands such as Gentle Giant, Camel, and Argent as great prog acts. None of these bands really had a large influence on music (at least in the mainstream). The original mission statement was to make original music that moved people in an emotional and intellectual way.
@megabrak83
@megabrak83 8 ай бұрын
The simple beauty is the most difficult thing to find: here is the complexity of Pink Floyd
@conormurphy4328
@conormurphy4328 3 жыл бұрын
Mike: “This song is too long” Also Mike: “gosh I love dream theater”
@henrybridgeman8898
@henrybridgeman8898 3 жыл бұрын
I understand echos being too long
@conormurphy4328
@conormurphy4328 3 жыл бұрын
@@henrybridgeman8898 yea echoes and maybe Saucerful of secrets I would be alright with cutting down
@elie6769
@elie6769 3 жыл бұрын
@@conormurphy4328 there is echoes live in pompeii you should definitely listen to it it's about 11 mins
@elie6769
@elie6769 3 жыл бұрын
@notwastd do you even like pink Floyd. If so idm don't think I am some pretentious kid sorry if I sounded like that
@elie6769
@elie6769 3 жыл бұрын
@notwastd what bands do you listen to. That's fine
@rickgrimes2056
@rickgrimes2056 3 жыл бұрын
As a die hard Floyd fan I’m ready to fight if needed
@akashbiswakarma8604
@akashbiswakarma8604 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@bartolomeotucci4653
@bartolomeotucci4653 3 жыл бұрын
Borthers... let me assemble an army!
@joerock6447
@joerock6447 3 жыл бұрын
I'M IN!
@shreddykrueger2408
@shreddykrueger2408 3 жыл бұрын
Heard
@neil2706
@neil2706 3 жыл бұрын
Im In too
@DrakusRecords
@DrakusRecords 3 жыл бұрын
Gilmour didn't kick Waters out. Waters "ended" the band. After The Final Cut, Waters considered Pink Floyd a spent force and didn't want to ruin the band's legacy by continuing. The problem was, Gilmour and Mason didn't want to stop being Pink Floyd. The band did break up for a few years though. Waters and Gilmour both did solo albums, but then Gilmour started working with Mason on his next album and wanted to turn it into a Pink Floyd project. He invited Waters, but Waters insisted that Pink Floyd was done. So they tried to use the "Pink Floyd" name without Waters, and Waters sued them. Gilmour invited Wright onto the project which tipped the scales deeply in his favor, and Gilmour won the legal dispute and was able to use the name "Pink Floyd" without Waters.
@doscwolny2221
@doscwolny2221 3 жыл бұрын
And despite syd Barrett naming it pink Floyd it was actually roger waters who started/founded the band.
@bobbobbins4877
@bobbobbins4877 3 жыл бұрын
Waters later admitted that he failed to appreciate that Pink Floyd was far bigger than any individual member of the band. He had this realisation when he went solo and realised that few people even recognised the name Roger Waters, whereas everyone knew about Pink Floyd. It was a brand that had been built up over many years, and him walking away from that didn't mean that Pink Floyd ceased to exist, just as it didn't cease to exist when Sid left. It doesn't work like that, especially in a legal sense.
@mikeeb6308
@mikeeb6308 3 жыл бұрын
@@bobbobbins4877 Branding is part of it but the quality of the music is really where the divide really is. In 1987 it was Momentary Lapse of Reason vs Radio KAOS....MLOR was a far superior record in most peoples minds.
@swingonthespiral
@swingonthespiral 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikeeb6308 MLOR is a unsuspecting masterpiece
@egyptianminor
@egyptianminor 3 жыл бұрын
Actually Waters didn't 'end the band' . He 'left' Pink Floyd, announcing his departure in an and official press statement in December 1985.
@dylanalexander4393
@dylanalexander4393 3 жыл бұрын
I like how even though Mike doesn't like Pink Floyd, he still acknowledges how impactful they were to classic rock which I can definitely respect. There's a lot of critically acclaimed music that I don't like, but I can understand the praise that the artists get. It's still very admirable that Mike does still see the appeal even though he doesn't personally like something. He's just being honest and it's completely understandable.
@ChristyAbbey
@ChristyAbbey 2 жыл бұрын
Often say, "I don't like Pet Sounds, but once in a while I put it on just to admire it."
@marullvlogger9631
@marullvlogger9631 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristyAbbey same not big fan of beach boys but gosh do I love the chord progressions of pet shop especially in god only knows.
@timdc4972
@timdc4972 2 жыл бұрын
What did pink floyd contribute? lmao
@dylanalexander4393
@dylanalexander4393 2 жыл бұрын
@@timdc4972 They contributed a lot to being one of the earliest psychedelic groups which they became a leading band of the progressive rock genre. They also help pioneered extended compositions, sonic experimentation, philosophical lyrics and elaborate live shows even before Led Zeppelin was formed. Zeppelin formed in ‘68. Floyd’s first album was released in ‘67.
@torkelsvenson6411
@torkelsvenson6411 6 ай бұрын
Well, their impact and amount of talent is really not a matter of opinion regardless if you like their music or not.
@adamjacksonmedia
@adamjacksonmedia 3 жыл бұрын
As a guitar player who grew up listening to, and playing, Yngwie, Dream Theater, Randy Rhodes etc... I honestly consider Gilmour an exceptional guitar player. He is able to serve the song, and lift the music up to a incredibly high level. The Wall and Animals are 2 of the greatest albums ever produced.
@geoffreybrunell5592
@geoffreybrunell5592 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Echoes is one of the greatest songs ever recorded, but I can understand why someone would think it's bloated. I guess you just need to be a certain kind of person in order to appreciate it fully
@DerekBolli
@DerekBolli 3 жыл бұрын
I think the wah-wah pedal seagulls bit in the middle goes on for a bit too long but I agree it's a great example of a Pink Floyd "something with a beginning, a middle and an end" song.
@MrWilander88
@MrWilander88 3 жыл бұрын
The song is 23 minutes Short, it’s the shortest song ever once you start developing a flavour for it. It’s like wine, some like it sweet, but once you develop the flavour for a nice Bordeaux, there’s no going back.
@geoffreybrunell5592
@geoffreybrunell5592 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrWilander88 Ok I'm not gonna lie, your comment sounds uber pretentious
@MrWilander88
@MrWilander88 3 жыл бұрын
@@geoffreybrunell5592 pretentious about what
@OswaldBatesIIIEsq
@OswaldBatesIIIEsq 3 жыл бұрын
"Echoes: Live at Pompeii" is absolutely one of the most impressive and one of my favorite songs by them. It's tied with "Interstellar Overdrive".
@jasonbeardandthewhiskeyfam2069
@jasonbeardandthewhiskeyfam2069 3 жыл бұрын
As a die hard Pink Floyd fan I thoroughly enjoyed how you presented arguments about why you disliked them which ironically were the same reasons I liked them. Interesting how much is a matter of taste. You obviously did your homework though which is respectful for a band you don’t really dig. I would love to hear your thoughts on Phish.
@jpg_goulart
@jpg_goulart 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: while recording their first LP in Abbey Road Studios, they had a little chat with four lads from Liverpool
@pascalg16
@pascalg16 3 жыл бұрын
The Beatles I guess.
@hawk1093
@hawk1093 3 жыл бұрын
@@pascalg16 nope, just 4 lads lol
@Plethiros
@Plethiros 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, and I'm sure David Gilmour was a little fan girl, being hugely inspired
@cfloydrun
@cfloydrun 3 жыл бұрын
It's obvious you don't have a clue. You should keep your mouth closed if you don't want to look like an idiot. Just because you have some music knowledge doesn't mean you understand real music. It's like the beer bellied arm chair quarter back. He'll tell everything you want to know about the sport and tell you everything all of the players are doing wrong. Just put him out on the field and he will get squished like a bug. That's you!
@jeremey9818
@jeremey9818 3 жыл бұрын
@@Plethiros You mean the same David Gilmour who wasn't even part of the band at that point?
@EmperorTigerstar
@EmperorTigerstar 3 жыл бұрын
I got the brunch ready for this one.
@youcanthandlethetruth8873
@youcanthandlethetruth8873 3 жыл бұрын
How many channels do you even watch, dude?
@honeyflavoredbuns9940
@honeyflavoredbuns9940 3 жыл бұрын
Bro this is the last place I'd expect to see tigerstar
@themulkids2477
@themulkids2477 2 жыл бұрын
Bro you're everywhere
@donovandownes5064
@donovandownes5064 7 ай бұрын
did you make a psychedelic brunch?
@swingonthespiral
@swingonthespiral 3 жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd is literally my favorite band of all time. I believe they tap into a collective element of many human being's consciousness with both their lyrics and musical compositions. Never took multiple listens to like anything from them, its always just been magic at first listen and it's the most connected I've ever felt to music.
@Heatwave9000
@Heatwave9000 2 жыл бұрын
Mate your tripping. Stay away from the drugs.
@MrKingkz
@MrKingkz Жыл бұрын
There just middle class moaning twats who like being boring for the sake of it grass growing has a way better sound
@Mxulin
@Mxulin 11 ай бұрын
@@Heatwave9000 can confirm I never did drugs
@RDog4484
@RDog4484 3 жыл бұрын
Syd Barrett actually visited Pink Floyd in the studio during the recording of WYWH. His physical appearance was so different, the other guys didn’t recognize him at first - he had gained a considerable amount of weight and had shaved his head and eyebrows. Once they realized who it was they broke down and cried. Barrett would go on to attend David Gilmour’s wedding reception (later that day, IIRC), but that would be the last time they saw him.
@MrKingkz
@MrKingkz Жыл бұрын
Thats a sweet story its nice to know that they made some piece of mind
@operastar2.280
@operastar2.280 10 ай бұрын
POST SCRIPT: Waters did catch a long glimpse of Syd at Harrod's shop in 1978. Syd ran away and the bag he left behind contained a lot of candy.
@smithfan22
@smithfan22 3 жыл бұрын
The Wall is such a great album. Theatrically brilliant
@nickh7962
@nickh7962 3 жыл бұрын
I really miss the days when albums actually had themes. Not that it doesn't exist nowadays, but its rare
@paulcrandall2534
@paulcrandall2534 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites. Great concept record. Incredible story.
@jeremythornton433
@jeremythornton433 3 жыл бұрын
It IS an amazing album but still my favorite is Animals. I find it hard to figure out why it's so frequently overlooked. Give it a listen and try and tell me it's not great. Unless of course it's just not your cup ot tea. I mean that as an "in genera;" thing. It's not pointed at anybody in particular. I guess I'm saying that to the world.
@andrejz8954
@andrejz8954 3 жыл бұрын
The movie was amazing as well!
@endless_limes
@endless_limes 3 жыл бұрын
Love The Wall
@brennenpeters8524
@brennenpeters8524 3 жыл бұрын
Mike:"For a song that is 24 minutes long there's not that much to say" Polyphonic: "Allow me to introduce myself"
@fabbe2975
@fabbe2975 3 жыл бұрын
that guy has limited skills, definitely
@aarongonzales1350
@aarongonzales1350 3 жыл бұрын
Polyphonic broke down the song beautifully
@dylanphelan3010
@dylanphelan3010 3 жыл бұрын
Polyphonic broke down the song conceptually and what the song represents but doesn't break it down musically
@aarongonzales1350
@aarongonzales1350 3 жыл бұрын
@@dylanphelan3010 but... He did
@gustavogabardo4490
@gustavogabardo4490 3 жыл бұрын
* I love hearing different opinions and have a peaceful debate, if you don’t mind, I will say my opinion about my band (sorry for the super long text). Pink Floyd is my favorite band, but doesn’t I love all their content. What makes me love them is the point for me considering the my favorite. I have the same feeling as yours about the first album, it’s really bizarre as you said in the video. We share the same opinion in the first era, to be honest (and yes, I divide the eras in the same way as you do). I don’t like “More” and “Ummagumma” too. I love when someone gives the deserved credit for the engineers that worked with the band, I totally agree with you when you consider how impactful they were to the spud of the band as a role. I they they’ve grown musically with “Atom Heart Mother” and they found their sound in “Meddle”. I understand why you don’t like Echoes, I love the song, but not as much as others do. And we share the same opinion again about “Obscure By Clouds”, even about the songs itself. About the Third Era, that’s the era that made me love them. I don’t need to say anything about “Dark Side”, to me, what needs to be said, has already been said. It’s not my favorite album tho, but it’s a legendary record in all points. About “Wish You Were Here”, Shine on is my all time favorite (I prefere the parts 6-9 than 1-5, impacts me more). My second favorite album of them, I think it combines all the things they’ve done in a astonishing way too. About Animals, I like the album, but, again, we are sharing almost the same opinion. The Wall is L E G E N D A R Y. My Inspiration as the musician I want to be (when speaking about lyrics, production, etc.). My favorite album, but, this doesn’t make the album perfect to me. I don’t like that much some songs that took away all the adrenaline that other songs in the album have. I don’t like the Final Cut to be honest, but enjoyable sometimes. Talking about the Final era, I don’t like that much about the first album of the era, but I love “The Division Bell”, One of My favorites (in my top 5). The Endless River to me is more a Instrumental content to explore than an album. The aspects that you point in “what make they remarkable” is perfection in my opinion, you put all theirs characteristics that made them the band they were. You have good points when you speak about what you don’t like them that much, and some of them I agree too. The First one is a good point and we agree. I understand you don’t like the excessive simplicity in some of their catalogue, I just fell relaxe when hearing them. Well, Pink Floyd is a band that makes me think, and musically makes me relaxed to be honest. Sorry for the long text (I don’t know if you will read this) but I need to say: thank you for the video, I really love how you organize and say your opinions. The way you look to understand the things in most of your videos is inspirational to me, a guy that lacks efficiency in that point.
@clawmansegele1988
@clawmansegele1988 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making such a well-made video in a respectful way discussing your opinions. Shows you care more about conveying a message about the music than just trying to make a video, which is rare but important. That’s what I like about your approach to videos (that Christian rock series was CRAZY!)
@BecomeTheKnight
@BecomeTheKnight 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the good vibes 🙏 I really wasn't particularly interested in Pink Floyd before I started this, and now I'm VERY interested lol. So I got a lot out of this experience. I'm happy you could see that in the video.
@corneliusantonius3108
@corneliusantonius3108 3 жыл бұрын
@@BecomeTheKnight NIGHTWISH !!!!
@lesclaypoolonbass9431
@lesclaypoolonbass9431 3 жыл бұрын
I love david gilmour. Also Animals is the best Floyd album. Also imagine not liking Echoes
@rakashack
@rakashack 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@petermolenaar6670
@petermolenaar6670 3 жыл бұрын
Animals is perfect
@tysonevarard968
@tysonevarard968 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine imagining Imagine by John Lennon
@lesclaypoolonbass9431
@lesclaypoolonbass9431 3 жыл бұрын
@@tysonevarard968 imagine imagining John Lennon imagining to imagine writing Imagine
@kareemortega617
@kareemortega617 3 жыл бұрын
Animals is very underrated 🗿🗿
@TimiVision1
@TimiVision1 3 жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd was my gateway to exploring other bands and different genres and styles of music, they were my first exposure to progressive rock back when I knew absolutely nothing about music or the genre itself. I may have grown out from Pink Floyd but I always find myself coming back to them. Forever of my favorite bands of all time.
@gobbiprimus8167
@gobbiprimus8167 3 жыл бұрын
This video was a really cool watch. And I love this blend of documentary and review(ish) and I'd love to see more of this general style!
@conormurphy4328
@conormurphy4328 3 жыл бұрын
I think Mike looks for different things from music than most people. He seems to want every second stuffed with content or progression or as close as a song can get to that which pink floyd does have sometimes but also has long swathes of more idle “go with the flow” music which I think he finds hard to enjoy.
@KakaoHammerhead
@KakaoHammerhead 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if he's really so focussed on "dense" music. I mean, look at his album rankings: the albums he ranks highest are definitely not written in the densest way. He just loves well structured music, and so do I to be honest.
@rcurl44
@rcurl44 3 жыл бұрын
@@KakaoHammerhead Then how is Pink Floyd not "well structured"?
@rcurl44
@rcurl44 3 жыл бұрын
@@KakaoHammerhead Also, Dream Theater is overflowing with useless bloat and "wastes of time."
@rcurl44
@rcurl44 3 жыл бұрын
@notwastd Yeah, we know, apparently. Mike said that in his video. Not new info.
@tysonevarard968
@tysonevarard968 3 жыл бұрын
@@rcurl44 oh mike lays into dream theater as well for doing that type of stuff. Take for example, his newest video on why he doesn't care about Dream Theater's new album.
@dylanjames6781
@dylanjames6781 3 жыл бұрын
I actually like David Gilmour What I HATE are the boomers who copy him REALLLLLLY badly and then tell anyone better than them that they have "no soul" because they aren't stuck playing slow pentatonic solos over backing tracks called "heartbroken slow blues" Gilmour is great, 90% of those who idolize him are pretentious and generic.
@michaelflorczyk1394
@michaelflorczyk1394 3 жыл бұрын
The people who criticize John Petrucci and Steve Vai are these same people who talk about Gilmour like that. I worship Gilmour myself but I don't say someone has "no feel" because they don't play exactly like Gilmour. It's the same thing with the Mike Portnoy and Mike Mangini argument.
@dylanjames6781
@dylanjames6781 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelflorczyk1394 EXACTLY. Like if we could just respect musicians and end it at that, none of this would have to be said. Heck I'm not even that great of a guitarist, I can barely sweep pick. But I also don't get jealous of better musicians or attack them!
@ignatiusjackson235
@ignatiusjackson235 3 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing about this, while I generally do agree, is that 60% of the time those obnoxious boomers are correct. The problem is that they treat the other progressive-minded 40% with the same dismissive attitude the over-techy/soulless 60% rightfully deserve.
@gamer-tk7pb
@gamer-tk7pb 3 жыл бұрын
if 90% of people that idiolize david gilmour are generic that would imply 70% of the whole electric guitar community is generic
@dylanjames6781
@dylanjames6781 3 жыл бұрын
@@gamer-tk7pb yes
@FernandoSotoD
@FernandoSotoD 3 жыл бұрын
You don't need to be under the influence to appreciate Pink Floyd. Also David Gilmour has more soul while playing the guitar than most of the progressive guitar players, he is a genius and I love progressive music as well. The thing with PF is that you don't need to focus too much on the music structure or the chord progression, just listen and enjoy, I always find myself discovering new features in their songs. As Dave Mustaine said once: "I'm of the belief that a player like David Gilmour could do more with one note than some of today's shredders can do with a dozen." Great review BTW.
@mustacheman4476
@mustacheman4476 3 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia Critic’s The Wall truly is a musical masterpiece. i’m glad your wyes have been opened, Mike
@hubertmiskowiec897
@hubertmiskowiec897 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what did you say?
@nikk796
@nikk796 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@walmartian422
@walmartian422 2 жыл бұрын
The anthropomorphic furry fetish objects in nostalgias critics wall are analogous to the deconstruction of western morality brainlets wont understand.
@pizzaman4385
@pizzaman4385 2 жыл бұрын
Excusemwah?
@mr.nobodymc9741
@mr.nobodymc9741 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t tell if this is a joke or not
@randolphvanhook5829
@randolphvanhook5829 3 жыл бұрын
To me, Gilmour’s “mastery” if you will, is in his phrasing, vibrato, and bending. He leaves a lot of “space” in between the notes, and combined with Rick Wright’s keyboards, created an atmosphere all its own.
@conormurphy4328
@conormurphy4328 3 жыл бұрын
The final cut is absolutely a Roger Waters solo album with guest Pink Floyd musicians
@michaelflorczyk1394
@michaelflorczyk1394 3 жыл бұрын
@Alvalanker I honestly think Roger's best vocals are on Animals. Unpopular opinion but that's what I think
@kevinohara2618
@kevinohara2618 3 жыл бұрын
Gilmour wrote a song on it and did a lot of work on the music, mason and wright had significant music performance on it, just because waters wrote it and had a major part in the way it was done does not make it a solo album, on the other hand you seem to be describing AMLOR well except you should change the name waters to gilmour.
@conormurphy4328
@conormurphy4328 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinohara2618 Wright wasn’t on the final cut as he left at the end of making the wall and while Mason and Gilmour are present they are both very much pushed to the side by the overbearing influence of Waters. Compared to AMLOR which while featuring Gilmour prominently does at least have a fair amount of Wright and Mason included.
@kevinohara2618
@kevinohara2618 3 жыл бұрын
@@conormurphy4328 yes you are right about wright not being on tfc, sorry i wrote in haste without thinking properly, but wright and mason initially had been given very small parts of amlor, wright small parts as a session musician and mason barely touched the drums as a drum machine was used, (mason did play on concerts though), it wasnt till many many years later that gilmour did a remix with mason on all tracks and more hammond playing by wright added, (i think after his death, but i could be wrong about timing). Gilmour said this was because he often felt that he didnt follow the timeless template that he should have followed.
@teddyfurstman1997
@teddyfurstman1997 3 жыл бұрын
So true. The Final Cut has some best songs from Walters.
@3ggshe11s
@3ggshe11s 3 жыл бұрын
One small quibble: Syd didn't leave after Saucerful. Pink Floyd started recording the album with Syd, but as he became more erratic, the rest of the band brought in David Gilmour. They played as a five-piece for about a week before they just decided one night not to pick up Syd for the show. They went back into the studio and finished the album without Syd. I can understand why you don't like Pink Floyd if you see a lot of the tracks as "bloated." If you're listening to Pink Floyd expecting them to "get to the point," you're almost always going to be sorely disappointed. The whole point is about losing yourself in the musical atmosphere -- and listening to Gilmour's guitar magic. Nor do you need to be "under the influence" to fully enjoy the music. I've never lit up anything and have loved these guys for decades. I connect the least with Waters when he rants. Gilmour is spot-on about how Waters focuses more on words than on melody. Probably why I find "The Wall" an overlong, indulgent, whiny bore, by far the most overrated of their albums. (No happy ending, by the way. Listen closely -- the very end loops back to the beginning.) "The Final Cut" has so much more musical beauty, and yet it gets totally overshadowed. "Division Bell" was the best of the post-Waters era. "Endless River" was a pointless way for the band to bow out. "Echoes" was their absolute pinnacle.
@Heatwave9000
@Heatwave9000 2 жыл бұрын
There's too much aimless meandering.
@paulcrandall2534
@paulcrandall2534 3 жыл бұрын
Considering Roger Water's feelings about war and government, the Cold War had a huge influence on the music style and lyrics of Pink Floyd. It seems to be a common theme throughout their entire catalog.
@msh6865
@msh6865 4 ай бұрын
Pink Floyd were a ground breaking band. The Wall was epic but, not their best IMO. Animals is a monster and still holds up today.
@dreww1609
@dreww1609 3 жыл бұрын
As a huge lifelong fan, I seriously appreciate your time spent and fair minded review. Your points are valid and well thought, and I see where you are coming from. "The Wall" owned my brain for like 2 solid years as an early teen. I can see why if anything, you came away with the most interest in that project. This is one of the best and most honest well researched analyses of this band by a non-fan I have ever heard. Well done.
@jhrusa8125
@jhrusa8125 3 жыл бұрын
They say nobody got more out of a note than BB king did. I would say David Gilmore gives him a run for his money, and he knows how to play chords also.
@lospollosh
@lospollosh 3 жыл бұрын
I’m just glad Mike was able to find music he loved out of a band he doesn’t love. It’s okay to say that you don’t like a certain band, especially a band like Pink Floyd. Art is so great because of how subjective it is, beauty in the eye of the beholder and whatnot.
@nmusta94
@nmusta94 2 жыл бұрын
The one thing I’m surprised that didn’t make you fall in love with Gilmour is his bending and vibrato. I get if you’re making a list and objectively comparing, it’s hard to put him against some of the other guys that are more technically proficient. To me the guitar is a voice, and in order to be one of the greatest, you have to be able to say something that resonates to a large mass. Which I think the solos in Time, Money, Dogs, Comfortably Numb, etc. do as good a job as anything I can think of. I don’t know where I’d put him, not #1, but he’s well earned his spot on my short list of the greatest guitar players ever 🎸 Hope you keep rocking on and always appreciate your perspectives man (even if we agree to disagree) 🤘
@jllamb88
@jllamb88 3 жыл бұрын
Animals is a slow burn and it’s one of those albums that sounds better on subsequent listens. It’s the first album I ever actually found myself longing to hear again (when I was in basic training with no access to my music). I find “Dogs” particularly brilliant. The acoustic work is simple but tasty, that intro Dm9/Bb/A9sus4/Bb7 reminds me of a prototypical Opeth riff. The message of the song (culminating in being dragged down by your own weight) is the biggest “fuck you” to corporate middle management in a song ever.
@mikeeb6308
@mikeeb6308 3 жыл бұрын
I took a class in college that included a technical breakdown of Shakespeare's soliloquy's and my 1st thought was Waters uses those same techniques in the lyrics of Dogs. "And it's to late to use the weight to use the weight you used to need to throw around...." That whole part until he's dragged down by the stone is perfect cadence and annunciation. Brilliant.
@matthewstellato4879
@matthewstellato4879 3 жыл бұрын
I would Agree how could you not like Animals and yeah you have to invest in it.
@Yenneffer
@Yenneffer 3 жыл бұрын
My parents love Pink Floyd, so I think that had a good bit of influence on my current music tastes. I rarely listen to them on my own, but I have huge respect for them. Funnily enough, Mike reacting to elders reacting to Pink Floyd was the video through which I discovered this channel, so that only adds on to why they're special to me in a way.
@settratheimperishable4093
@settratheimperishable4093 2 жыл бұрын
Division Bell is great imo. High Hopes does something physical to my heart (its sound does feel kinda dated though)
@toomajbpd4293
@toomajbpd4293 3 жыл бұрын
Great video man. Your last sentence about the wall was so important my friend. I think pink floyd password has been hidden in this album. A few more listens to this album will reveal something not just musically but socially and psychologically. This album is so smart that lives, breathes and ages with you. There are moments in life that you hear this album whispering to your ear"I told you so" and you get shocked how you missed that part. I started listening to this album at 13 and now I'm 42 and I still feel like this album is a big brother to me teaching about my own personality. About some of the earlier pink floyd albums I totally agree with you and that's why pink floyd is my no 2 favorite band of all time not number 1. The number 1 band has been "dream theater" for 24 years. Again great and fair analysis
@alexrofe2192
@alexrofe2192 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your opinions on King Crimson.
@matthewstellato4879
@matthewstellato4879 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Really I'd like to see that..."In the Wake of Poseidon"
@agustinmarinangeli
@agustinmarinangeli 3 жыл бұрын
The Wall is my favorite album by far. I have similar thoughts about the Floyd: - I honestly don't care for the early albums, though I like the Echoes song. The only one I listened fully is Meddle. - The big four (dark side to the wall) are great albums. I really love Dark Side, but The Wall is still number one to me. - The Final Cut is not nearly as good as it's predecessors, but way better to me than the albums that followed it.
@jamesstaggs4160
@jamesstaggs4160 2 жыл бұрын
The build of the solo on Hey You is absolute magic. He can do with one note it takes others ten to do. His playing always serves the song. I think he's great.
@EndoftheTownProductions
@EndoftheTownProductions 3 жыл бұрын
"High Hopes" is an incredible song.
@ChristyAbbey
@ChristyAbbey 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The last PF song that sounded like and was lyrically of a piece with PF, and it was written by Polly Samson.
@aarongonzales1350
@aarongonzales1350 3 жыл бұрын
How does someone talk about umma gumma without mentioning Careful with that axe Eugene and one of the sickest screeches in Rock or even metal
@glenhaven721
@glenhaven721 Жыл бұрын
The live version from ummagumma is better than the studio version in Relics, change my mind.
@aarongonzales1350
@aarongonzales1350 Жыл бұрын
@@glenhaven721 there's other live versions where Roger kills it, but ummagumma is definitely a staple
@EzioMonty117
@EzioMonty117 3 жыл бұрын
ooo Become the Knight doing a video on Pink Floyd this won't stir some controversy at a- "I'm not really a fan of Pink Floyd" *grabs popcorn*
@tysonevarard968
@tysonevarard968 3 жыл бұрын
Right??
@Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me
@Kirk_Hammett_Bit_Me Жыл бұрын
The Wall grabbed me when I heard it in '79; still does. Pink Floyd's not my favorite band, but this is one of my favorite albums. LOVE it♡
@mikeoxlong5568
@mikeoxlong5568 11 ай бұрын
You tested me by saying you don’t like Echoes, but you lost me after calling Animals exhausting…
@FragilePaths
@FragilePaths 4 ай бұрын
Animals is an amazing album. When you hear a band for 3 straight days you get disoriented.
@jimacheson
@jimacheson 4 ай бұрын
He got clicks…i imagine this guy likes Raffi’s Baby Beluga and baby shark song…(never argue with a moron, a neutral onlooker will not be able to tell which one’s the moron
@donicsm7684
@donicsm7684 3 жыл бұрын
When I was younger I’ve always found Pink Floyd to be very tacky. Especially Brick In The Wall. However last year when we went into lockdown I became very interested in beterring myself in songwriting and somehow discovered love for Pink Floyd. Falling very deeply in love with music you previously hated is an insanely weird feeling.
@HDitzzDH
@HDitzzDH 2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to Animals, Obscured By Clouds, Meddle and Saucerful on repeat without ever getting tired of them. It's just such amazing music, of course The Wall, Wish You Were Here and Dark Side are absolute classics however I think I've listened to those albums so many times that it just doesn't do much for me anymore, I guess I appreciate the "weird sounds" and spooky/psychedelic/cosmic atmosphere a bit more than the cleaner, more commercial sounds. It really surprised me that he didn't like "Echoes" as well, it's probably one of the greatest songs in human history.
@ndesdsadfd
@ndesdsadfd 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore the first album. People should take those first two album as another band, as they basically were compared to the Gilmour/Waters era.
@JonnyKaine
@JonnyKaine 2 жыл бұрын
yes; Piper at the Gates of Dawn is brilliant.
@ileutur6863
@ileutur6863 3 жыл бұрын
Analysing Floyd from a modern perspective is a fool's errand. Yeah they seem a bit outdated in the context of modern prog and everything that the genre has done, but at the time no one could match them. Although I rarely listen to them, I'll always respect their legacy
@BecomeTheKnight
@BecomeTheKnight 3 жыл бұрын
I would have crapped on early Pink Floyd a lot harder if it was only from a modern prog perspective. And I think it's a fool's erand to only isolate a work in it's own time period.
@relampago0123
@relampago0123 3 жыл бұрын
I always liked Pink Floyd, just as a good and iconic band. BUT the time I saw Roger Water Live was a complete turnaround for me, they became one of my favourite bands, because they took me to a diferent dimension with their music (and I wasn't on drugs...). Best concert Ive ever been.
@user-dj9iu2et3r
@user-dj9iu2et3r 3 жыл бұрын
David Gilmore might not be one of the top 10 best guitarists ever but I’d LOVE to see you write a single solo that’s more impactful than any of his. I’m a guitarist as well and I could never bring myself to say Gilmore is overrated.
@Heatwave9000
@Heatwave9000 2 жыл бұрын
So Mike has to be the best solo composer in the world to have an opinion? This is the laziest arguement mankind has ever thought of. You sir are very cringe. Overrated does not mean bad. It means people give him too much credit when there are better writers out there which there are.
@evertonfc5380
@evertonfc5380 9 ай бұрын
Might not be top 10 🤣 He's easily in the top 5
@user-dj9iu2et3r
@user-dj9iu2et3r 9 ай бұрын
@@evertonfc5380 depends how you rate guitarists my dude. I was considering pure skill in my comment, I think. It WAS 2 years ago lol.
@jo.s7993
@jo.s7993 4 ай бұрын
@@user-dj9iu2et3r You don't think he's skilled enough to be in the top ten? Oh dear....oh dear, dear, dear.
@Isoturius
@Isoturius 3 ай бұрын
​@@user-dj9iu2et3rpure skill? Do you play? Because you don't get more skilled than him with bends and vibrato. He's in a league of his own.
@TheLebTM
@TheLebTM 3 жыл бұрын
You should eventually do one of these full band reviews for Periphery. You haven’t talked about them in a while and I love hearing you talk about them. This is an excellent video, enjoying the content. Keep it up!!!
@rebeccassweetmusic4632
@rebeccassweetmusic4632 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you because Pink Floyd isn't one of those bands I feel like I need to listen to all the time. I think you have to be in a particular headspace to listen to Floyd. Like, if you wanna get high or just chill out and calm your nerves. But, I will say, I see why DSOTM is labeled the most iconic album of all time because of the musicality and the production. My favorite song is Great Gig because they brought in a singer (Clare Torry) who can wail. Like, every time I listen to her vocal solo on that track, she sounded incredible. It makes me wonder how many takes she had to do to belt and completely emote from her gut like that.
@resist1581
@resist1581 3 жыл бұрын
wail not whale. Clare Torry has never been whaling or whaled or ever was a whale
@rebeccassweetmusic4632
@rebeccassweetmusic4632 3 жыл бұрын
@@resist1581 Fixed it
@rebeccassweetmusic4632
@rebeccassweetmusic4632 3 жыл бұрын
@D That's what I thought too because as a singer, when you're giving it all (vocally) and can make it sound powerful and emotional, there's no reason to do more than one take. I would've been blown away too if I heard that in the studio. I like it when singers get to do what they want and show off what they can do with their voice. That's what I love about jams because as a singer myself, you get to come in and come out and show off your vocal talents. It takes a LOT of guts and confidence to blow like that and amaze everyone. I see why Mr. S from School of Rock wanted Tamika (his talented backing singer) to listen to Great Gig from that album
@ignatiusjackson235
@ignatiusjackson235 3 жыл бұрын
@@rebeccassweetmusic4632 Yeah, I think it was only her second take, or her first complete take. From what I understand, she started throwing random interjections in the first time, so the band cut her off and said "none of that ooh-baby shit," and then her next take was exactly what you hear on the record. Unbelievable stuff. My favorite guest vocals on a rock LP next to Merry Clayton's work on "Gimme Shelter."
@anvsse4910
@anvsse4910 Жыл бұрын
pink floyd is not a band you fall in love instantly , i had the same perspective as you when i first listened to them, i really didnt like em at all , but somehow one day i sat down and was like, i need something to listen to that is not metal to relax, i relax to metal still , but that time i was in a strange state of mind , the first song i played was echoes , it was that very moment wheen something clicked. in my first listens i was trying to find something to like about their songs intead of letting my emotions emmerse and dive in their songs , it is about the emotions those notes trigger, it takes you to a trip, idk if i explained it well but that was my best attempt to explain
@halfmettal
@halfmettal 3 жыл бұрын
i really like the more laid back acoustic ones as well pre dark-side. Wots uh the deal, green is the colour, fearless. really soothing, doesn't have that suspense of what Floyd are known for, it's like listening to a different band
@jagdeepkaul1261
@jagdeepkaul1261 Жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd is really as preference and a choice. Music has no correct answers. I love Pink Floyd, they are my favourite band. I realise they are not for everyone but I love all Eras of Pink Floyd. Even the underrated albums as amazing in my opinion.
@j800r_aswell
@j800r_aswell 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, the main thing about David's feel is timbre. The tone and unique sound. However, there are two things that are his doing that also influence this. The bends and the vibrato. They're right on the money. Is he a guitar GOAT? Technically, no. Then again, people consider Slash one of the GOATs and in comparison David Gilmour is a guitar god. All that being said, if you listen to David on Marooned and don't get shivers from the first note, you have no soul.
@janczarnecki4884
@janczarnecki4884 3 жыл бұрын
I am a big Pink Floyd fan. At the same time, I really appreciate this kind of methodic and well structured criticism, because it shows how opinions and personal experience may vary and reflect in our personal approach to music that's supposed be universally acclaimed. Well constructed video Sir, good job!
@BecomeTheKnight
@BecomeTheKnight 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the feedback 🤘 as some commenters have pointed out I did miss the final band breakup factually, but I did want to drive home a certain level of subjectivity to it.
@fuzzydunlop1988
@fuzzydunlop1988 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Animals album. The guitar in Dogs *chef's kiss*
@BecomeTheKnight
@BecomeTheKnight 3 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand it man lol. I'll give it some more listens eventually.
@turcanudan9386
@turcanudan9386 2 жыл бұрын
@@BecomeTheKnight funnily enough I'd consider Dogs one of if not the least metaphorical tracks of the album
@operastar2.280
@operastar2.280 10 ай бұрын
Syd Barrett released two solo albums with members of Pink Floyd helping out.
@yuriyrash8398
@yuriyrash8398 3 жыл бұрын
I still consider that David's use of electric guitar is exceptional, it's so accurate and melodic, it's like the instrument was invented just for him
@sigmundfreud8976
@sigmundfreud8976 2 жыл бұрын
The Division Bell has some very interesting moments
@jackg1968
@jackg1968 3 жыл бұрын
As a huge Pink Floyd fan, I was a little worried they were going to get torn apart in this video, and although I disagreed on some things, I enjoyed how objective this was. Great video!
@pvbaelen
@pvbaelen 2 жыл бұрын
My first time really listening to Meddle was in an abandoned mine in New Jersey. The entrance was blocked with a huge steel door that someone had cut a square in so you could get in. We had Meddle playing on a portable 8 track wandering through the mine with thousands of small bats hanging from the ceiling and just flashlights and a portable lamp I think. Meddle was the perfect album for that environment and state of mind.
@shroomshady27
@shroomshady27 Жыл бұрын
This guy needs to be introduced to psychedelics immediately. None of these albums require hallucinogens to "Understand", "Love" or "Get" any of them, they stand on their own as brilliant albums. I was a massive Floyd fan long before I took my first proper dose of mushrooms and listened to all those albums. When I eventually did, once things began to get really weird visually, I started playing TDSOTM, (very loudly, surround sound) and by the time the cash registers at the beginning of money started, I looked over at the speaker to my left, and I literally saw the first few notes of the baseline coming out of the subwoofer, and continued to come out of the speakers and float up and across the room. It looked a lot like that clear 'Bullet-Time" visual effect from "The Matrix", just in the shape of my 10" subwoofer. I had never experienced anything like that before in my entire life. I mean it was the most incredible experience of my life up to that point. My second, and probably most significant Pink Floyd/mushroom adventure was a small get-together of myself and my three closest friends at the time. We all took A LOT (A bit too much) and I had planned for us to watch "Pink Floyd: Live at Pompeii (1971)" from beginning to end. We did, and holy fucking shitballs... I think that's the experience that cemented Pink Floyd as the greatest band of all-time for me, and everything played in "Live at Pompeii" was stuff from "A Saucerful of Secrets" to "Meddle". They hadn't even made Dark Side by that point, I think there's footage of an early version of "Us and Them" they were working on in the studio in the film, but I don't think it was the entire song, or what stage the song was in at that point. I think also what became "On the Run" was born out of some of the footage of Roger smoking a cigarette and playing around with an early electronic sequencer/synthesizer. I digress... what I'm getting at is, these two moments stand out in my brain as two of the most important moments in my entire life. After being a die-hard Floyd fan for years, when I listened to it on Hallucinogens, I mean that was it. It changed everything, and not just with Floyd, with music as a whole. I'll ALWAYS be a MASSIVE Pink Floyd fan, I still listen to them all the time and I haven't tripped in years. I'm curious... does this guy like The Beatles? I get a "I don't like British people vibe" from him, or maybe just a "I don't like the music British people were making during the 60s - 1980" vibe. I'm not sure what the deal is there, it's very curious... -
@wisdom0588
@wisdom0588 Жыл бұрын
You fucking get it!!
@judewessel5713
@judewessel5713 3 жыл бұрын
Really really cool man! Regardless of your opinion I think it’d be awesome to do this for tons of bands! Tons of genres! Very cool to just sit for 40 minutes inundated with a bands music.
@matthewwilson3316
@matthewwilson3316 Жыл бұрын
“if you’re demanding MY attention it is incumbent upon YOU to respect my time.” -Clown with a 40 minute video
@joestrunk9663
@joestrunk9663 7 ай бұрын
can we agree to disagree. I don't do drugs and love Pink Floyd, does that say something about me.I keep coming back to listening to them over and over. most bands do develop a sound and repeat it over and over again because people love that. and it sells I'm 59 years old maybe that matters.
@jeremythornton433
@jeremythornton433 3 жыл бұрын
At the 3ish minute mark you mention the "jams". I used to play in a band called the Cunning Stunts. We'd play these gigs that had 3 sets and we'd jam for 45 minutes per set. No covers. just making it up as we went. This was in the mid 80s in Toronto. I'm the keyboard player and usually I'd just start something and the rest of the band would surefire it out. I get why Floyd did that. People actually like it. I'm sure the audience was high too. So were Floyd's audiences. That's very important to remember. I've played a lot of Floyd over the years.
@BecomeTheKnight
@BecomeTheKnight 3 жыл бұрын
If a band is legit great at jamming (which Pink Floyd were) it can be an excellent addition to a live experience.
@Yenneffer
@Yenneffer 3 жыл бұрын
Cunning Stunts is an amazing name lmao.
@jeremythornton433
@jeremythornton433 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yenneffer We thought so too!
@jeremythornton433
@jeremythornton433 3 жыл бұрын
@@BecomeTheKnight We had perfected the art of jamming pretty well. We had been doing it for a long time. Well over a decade. Our guitar player and bass player pretty much never did covers. We had a basement under a barber shop and since it had all the gear, we'd just show up and make up music. More in a fusion style than a trippy spacey style although we occasional did a bit of that too. Not too much though. I always liked to have melodies and sections that made sense so I'd re-introduce parts just to maintain a sense of continuity.
@TheAlbumGuy
@TheAlbumGuy 2 ай бұрын
I'm very fond of Pink Floyd, and I highly respect your honesty and dedication towards this video 🙂
@silentqueue2344
@silentqueue2344 3 жыл бұрын
I have a special fondness for Meddle, but there's no PF album I've listened to more than The Final Cut. I understand why people don't like it but it speaks to me. Have long been a big fan of the flawed genius that is Roger Waters.
@AlexH8280
@AlexH8280 Жыл бұрын
You're telling me you have nothing to say about "Learning To Fly", or "High Hopes"? (The two biggest Gilmour era tunes)
@aResoluteProtector
@aResoluteProtector 9 ай бұрын
I found it odd how he just dismissed that entire era lol. They had some really good tracks.
@Chr1551
@Chr1551 3 жыл бұрын
Gilmour did not kick Waters out. How could he have? Waters was the leader of the band and it was only Gilmour and Mason left with him in the band at that point. Waters wanted to do more solo albums after his first one: "Pros & Cons..." instead of doing more Pink Floyd, and Gilmour and Mason with the record company tried to threaten him with legal action should he not come back immediately to write another PF album, so he filed with the record company that he was quitting. Gilmour and Mason still desperately wanted to use the PF name as a cash cow, so the result was mainly a David Gilmour and guests/hired hands album being released under the PF name. Gilmour didn't have the artistic & moral integrity to honestly represent himself as a solo artist & work on building his solo career at that time. This made the bad blood between him & Waters even worse to the point where bridges were burned so that we would never again get a proper Pink Floyd album and tour.
@Iwishtheirwasnopain
@Iwishtheirwasnopain 2 жыл бұрын
As a life long fan of pink floyd I actually totally agree with you about basically everything loo
@tr_vmi4844
@tr_vmi4844 3 жыл бұрын
PF is a band I won't turn off, but never "go after"' to listen to. The Wall is cool and all, but that's about where I'm at with them. They're fine.
@operastar2.280
@operastar2.280 10 ай бұрын
UMMA GUMMA has a live version of a Syd song Astronimy Domine, so an appropriate last Barrett-era disc.
@AvvieLanche
@AvvieLanche 2 жыл бұрын
You can sing Gilmour solos. You can't do that with soulles shredders.
@aoaoa605
@aoaoa605 2 жыл бұрын
So…?
@Hy-jg8ow
@Hy-jg8ow 2 жыл бұрын
Shredding may not nourish the soul, but sure it nourishes a cerebral itch somewhere in the logical circuits in the brain, which most "soul" first people seems to lack.
@masonpeterson8894
@masonpeterson8894 2 жыл бұрын
You just have a slow tongue 🤷🏼‍♂️
@wiggy009
@wiggy009 2 жыл бұрын
Least pretentious Gilmour stan
@asloii_1749
@asloii_1749 2 жыл бұрын
Not if you’re Eminem
@ericdaugherty3554
@ericdaugherty3554 3 жыл бұрын
I love Pink Floyd (still do) and was excited when this popped up in my feed. I enjoyed hearing a different perspective. I agreed with many of the points he made on both sides. I think music serves different purposes, like food (junk food, comfort food, health food), and Pink Floyd, simple as it may be, fills a purpose. Just as Dream Theatre does. Just as ACDC does. Just as REM does. Bring it all!
@DBSG1976
@DBSG1976 3 жыл бұрын
"In the Flesh" is one of my all time favorite songs and Waters contempt for the fans is in full view.
@Vivi_9
@Vivi_9 3 жыл бұрын
OOOOOO AAAAARRRR
@bvhnko
@bvhnko 2 жыл бұрын
Just want to clear up some things on Syd. The oldest relationship between band members was Syd and Dave, they actually performed as street musicians in France before Pink Floyd was formed. The reason Syd became increasingly difficult to work with is because how stressed out he was due to the pressure of the record company that was being put on him to stray from his creativity to write another pop single like “Arnold Layne,” or “See Emily Play,” which is why he refused to cooperate in protest, until ultimately quitting the band, and bringing in Dave himself as his replacement (Roger claims he’s the one who called Dave in an interview). There is a surplus of proof that Syd was not losing his mind, but perhaps the biggest is his final contribution to the band, and one of my favorite Pink Floyd songs, “Jugband Blues,” from A Saucer Full of Secrets. On the song he sings about how he is aware that they are painting him as crazy and that he knows what they’re doing. Roger also likes to claim that Syd was so far gone that he couldn’t even play a note on a guitar by 1968, yet he went on to release two very experimental psychedelic/blues rock albums, and he did collaborations with musicians such as Kevin Ayers from Soft Machine. He also started a new band in 1970 called The Stars that was short lived because he couldn’t recreate the sound that he wanted and that he had achieved in Pink Floyd. If you don’t believe me, Syd did many interviews in the 70s in which he intelligently and consciously discussed his time in Pink Floyd, why he left, and his reflections on his career and what he planned for the future. In the mid 70s, he dropped out of the public eye, as he was very socially awkward and did not want to be famous (as Mike pointed out), and he decided to take up painting in a more serious way, which is what he did until his death in 2006. He was seen by many doctors and never diagnosed with any form of schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder, although his sister did reveal that he was on the spectrum. I personally believe making Syd look crazy was a publicity stunt went wrong that the band has just been keeping up out of fear that it’ll make fans angry, but that’s just my guess. But it’s fact, though, that he was not nearly as gone as they all like to claim.
@llcdrdndgrbd
@llcdrdndgrbd 2 жыл бұрын
I really love shine on you crazy diamond but I’m not sure I can continue to love it knowing this context- it essentially is musical defamation in a way, disguised as tribute to a “crazy” genius (but really just a genius with boundaries)
@gonzalodavila7427
@gonzalodavila7427 Жыл бұрын
@@llcdrdndgrbd I think is not nice a tribute about you being "crazy" when you are alive... And I prefer many songs than shine on. The Piper At The Gates is my fave floyd album, I have the album in vynil, much more better than in youtube or cd. (And I am floydian fan since my 14 years old, the film the wall was my first contact, and the album The wall, a great album, was my firSt floyd love)
@julianbaldwin6992
@julianbaldwin6992 3 жыл бұрын
I find that the live version of Shine On from Pulse is the only way to listen to it! Roger's voice on the studio version is great in its own way, but Gilmour sings it beautifully! It's magnificent.
@BecomeTheKnight
@BecomeTheKnight 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the advice on that Julian 🤘 I've listened to it a LOOOONNG time ago but that was before I was more open-minded to them too. I should give that another listen.
@jolanpiep
@jolanpiep 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent and interesting video! Just to correct some of your statements on the band: - No, drugs were NOT primary in their music making. After Syd had left it played little to no role. The other band members have only done LSD a few times and they didn't write music while on psychedelics (Have you tried? It's very difficult, as an instrument even looks alien at that moment). It is also not 'meant' to be enjoyed while under the influence. Comfortably Numb is an exception in that the main character of The Wall, Pink Floyd, is intoxicated during the song. - If you know Animal Farm by George Orwell, you can understand Animals. It was strongly inspired by that novel. Pigs, sheep, dogs, they're metaphors for types of people in your life (and in the music industry) you need to watch out for. - The Endless River was produced by just Gilmour and Mason after Wright's death, using some leftover recordings they had of him. It's not supposed to be amazing, it was their farewell.
@flzrian3623
@flzrian3623 3 жыл бұрын
I consider Pink Floyd to be among my favourite artists ever so I feel obligated to leave my opinion on your takes. I think their long instrumental jam sessions are very much listenable. I can put on Shine On Parts 6 - 9 and concenrate on the music but that's just me. Yes some of their songs could be cut short, that one section in Echoes comes to mind, as well as the intro to Sheep and Shine On Part 1 but I wouldn't really want it any other way now that I know the songs how they are now. I personally love Animals. Even disregarding the political themes and metaphors, I think that these 3 tracks are amazing individually, so many memorable moments. Pigs on the Wing are really just filler, even according to Waters himself they are just there so that "people won't get too aggressive listening to the album" but I like them too, they're sweet love songs he wrote for his then-wife that fit the theme of the album. I agree that The Wall is their best. It's phenomenal. but I think that you kinda overlook the Gilmour era, there is definitely some highlights there like Sorrow, Marooned and High Hopes but that's maybe just because I like Gilmour's playing. In conclusion I see why you wouldn't be into them too much, they're more of an emotional band and you don't strike me as a very emotional person, at least how you present yourself in your videos but as a very emotional person, I love their music and it has helped be through some rough times in my teen years
@matthewstellato4879
@matthewstellato4879 3 жыл бұрын
No way the Intro Piano on Sheep is a favorite and Shine on would not be the same
@gleam152
@gleam152 11 ай бұрын
The Floyd did not start out "miserable" by any means. It was actually psychedelic pop with Syd, funny, quirky. What hooked me was DSOTM and the Wall, largely because that was how I felt in my teen years: miserable, and I felt the shear depth of it and the meaning. It was later I got into Meddle and Ummagumma, etc. I saw Roger in 2022 but now don't love the man. I don't think he is antisemitic, but he is not giving off the message he thinks he gives off. Glad I saw him though, lifelong dream. Would definitely have liked to meet him and discuss politics at length, particularly since I was running for Congress on a Progressive platform, and live in NYS (he lives in the Hamptons.) We shared very similar views toward Native nations' reparations and supporting American Indian rights. I like the crowd he draws too, peaceful, hippy, lots of weed in the air. Pretty cool experience. Unfortunately I missed the beginning of in the flesh, was stuck in a men's room line. I posted that on my media, and the guitarist liked my post.
@Plethiros
@Plethiros 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason I bare to have echoes on my playlist, is because one of the parts is so fucking good. being from 2:55 to 7:00 into the song. Also, pink Floyd is my most favorite band. Love them. But half of their music is disappointing too. Particularly before and after the waters era. Also, I know your interests and understand pink Floyd isn't your thing, but either way, your opinion is all I could ask for and glad that you delved in for a deeper look. Much respect. Enjoyed this video a lot
@swolejszo
@swolejszo 3 жыл бұрын
I saw Pink Floyd in concert in 1994 and it was one of the best shows I have ever been to. I didn't consider myself a fan before the show, or after for that matter, but man do they ever kill it live. There is something to be said for that.
@themetalhead1463
@themetalhead1463 3 жыл бұрын
Same here! I had a great time and loved the show but was never a big fan and still am not.
@Vivi_9
@Vivi_9 3 жыл бұрын
Holy shit did you see them on the Pulse tour? Lucky guy!
@swolejszo
@swolejszo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vivi_9 A good friend of mine scored tickets from a concert promoter that he knew, and he convinced me to go with him even though I said I didn't really want to. Thankfully he convinced me to come along for the ride.
@marcocardia3960
@marcocardia3960 3 жыл бұрын
i love this video! i would love to see one on Queen!
@jcjohncarter3
@jcjohncarter3 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite Floyd album is 'Animals' and even though I know online that album has it's fandom I have yet to meet someone who shares that opinion in real life. I also have to be in a mood to listen to it as well, so I get people not getting it or liking it.
@drunkcaribou_699
@drunkcaribou_699 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame AMOLAD and The Division Bell get tossed aside to much. No, David is not as good as Roger with lyrics, but they still fit the music very well. Songs such as Sorrow, High Hopes, Keep Talking, and The Dogs War do have some very solid lyrics, and the instruments on those songs, and these records are great!
@LucyOLastic
@LucyOLastic Жыл бұрын
Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast is just a lovely and charming piece of English whimsy. It's a bit like the Beach Boys when they made Smile. Munching carrots and whatnot and dinner table chat. The music is reassuring more than anything. Especially the last part....the descending chords and piano creating refractions of light. Already you can hear the sound that would become familiar on later records. I think the sound of this record feels like the second Barrett solo album, and they sit well together. One of my favourite moments on AHM is the guitar solo on the fade of "Fat Old Sun" where Gilmour does some strange skittish Barrett-esque things, Like Mick Ronson did on "The Bewlay Brothers." "More" really was just a soundtrack, but it has some nice psychedelic guitar jams. Cymbaline is a good song. "Up the Khyber" is a favourite....I like Rick Wright's jazzy piano and Turkish delight organ sounds. The whole record has this dusky sort of atmosphere. Definitely sunset music. Piper At The Gates Of Dawn is a visionary work. If you think of it as the strange music imagined in "The Wind In the Wlllows" I think it makes more sense. "Chapter 24" is a great example of that. It bursts through like sunlight, capturing the moment, using feedback to great effect.
@joaquinlezcano2372
@joaquinlezcano2372 Жыл бұрын
26:35 Dogs: -has one of the most amazing intros. Memorable and preparing you for what to expect to the album. -has 3 amazing solos. The second one being one of the very best of David Gilmour. -the bit at 3:41 is among the finest things that pink Floyd ever did. -one of the best finales. Pigs: -one of the most recognizable keyboard intros (and intros in general) ever. -the rhythm is so catchy. -one of the most cathartic ending solos ever. Rivalize Comfortably numb. Sheeps: -a good keyboard intro. Quite pleasent. -the most ferocious track of the album. I agree that maybe some bits are a little long. So maybe you dislike the disc, and that's ok. But aside other songs in their discography, they don't feel as awkward. And to say the album isn't memorable... You must be deaf.
@dimboomx7582
@dimboomx7582 Жыл бұрын
Yea, that's the most questionable part of the video. Shame the album didn't hit him as hard, musically or lyrically.
@alb639
@alb639 10 ай бұрын
Disclaimer: The Floyd have been my favorite band since 1988 when I was 13 years old. First off, Gilmour didnt kick Waters out of the band. Roger was leaving and felt he had a legal right to dissolve the band based on he being the creative genius, lyricist, and co-music writer and 90% Lead Singer since Animals. Gilmour protested, lawyers got involved and things were settled out of court regardless of all the stories you hear that there were court battles. Waters remained 25% of Pink Floyd Music Limited. (Everything thru TFC), 100% ownership of anything related to The Wall, ownership of the flying pig and Gilmour was allowed to continue on as PF with Nick Mason. Richard Wright was not legally allowed back in though I dont know the legal reasons and he eventually DID become an official corporate member some time after the AMLoR Tour. Gilmour and Mason (and Wright at some point) continued without Waters as Pink Floyd (1987) Limited. Pink Floyd Records Limited, established in 2015, which you prominently see on their new vinyl pressings, consists of David, Nick & Roger all with 1/3 ownership. Roger Might not be *in the band* but hes in an ownership role where all the highly profitability aspects are concerned.
@jo.s7993
@jo.s7993 4 ай бұрын
Water's was never, ever 90% the lead singer! In fact he's actually a terrible singer, & he knows it. If he wasn't such a jealous, egotistical, bitter piece of crap, & an arsehole, he'd have stuck to playing the bass & left the vocals to Dave & Rik.
@sydberetta4649
@sydberetta4649 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel as though Syd didn't actually have to have taken much LSD to trigger his Schizophrenia, it could have been just a single dose that may have caused his synapses to reset to a very negative degree and result. Either way, it was an incredibly sad how he degenerated.
@oddthemute6172
@oddthemute6172 3 жыл бұрын
The sad thing about Schizophrenia is that drugs or not, it's gonna come out eventually. Drugs will just expedite symptom emergence. Usually by your mid twenties at the latest it'll set in if you're predisposed to it. Source: (former) Psych major who dropped out of college after my Schizophrenia diagnoses when I was 22.
@Vivi_9
@Vivi_9 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about why you loved The Wall! I wasn't expecting you to like this album at all.
@pablorosario5232
@pablorosario5232 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not a Pink Floyd fan as well but David is a great guitarist, he surely knows how to write a catchy guitar solo
@nathanpapp432
@nathanpapp432 Жыл бұрын
Yes, technical ability and musical ability are two different things. Gilmore might not be the most technically talented guitarist but he's one of the most musically talented.
@Reaperwing47
@Reaperwing47 3 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I was waiting for this! Thanks dude \m/
@samwalenius9578
@samwalenius9578 3 жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd is the greatest band of all time
@lesclaypoolonbass9431
@lesclaypoolonbass9431 3 жыл бұрын
@notwastd who is yours?
@tysonevarard968
@tysonevarard968 3 жыл бұрын
I tHinK yOu mEaNt tO sAy TrAiN 🚂 (It's a joke. Calm down.)
@lesclaypoolonbass9431
@lesclaypoolonbass9431 3 жыл бұрын
@notwastd ya king crimson is good too
@kinjaldas225
@kinjaldas225 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@ledsabbazepplath3889
@ledsabbazepplath3889 3 жыл бұрын
Limp Bizkit : beer my hold
@rifflix
@rifflix 3 жыл бұрын
As a long time Floyd fan I loved this video and your perspectives. Thanks for sharing your views. Keep ‘em coming. Great video.
@trevortabin2540
@trevortabin2540 3 жыл бұрын
I felt like this video could have been accomplished in half the time:)
@gtdcoder
@gtdcoder 3 жыл бұрын
Pink Floyd epitomizes the standards most music fans seem to have. Slow, dark, serious, and somber. If it’s bright, energetic, upbeat than its automatically bad. I like Floyd every once in awhile because Gilmour does some great solos. But most of the time they put me to sleep.
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