Sheldon Gets Cat-Mania

Sheldon goes mad about cats in "The Zazzy Substitution"!
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[@rainbowcat498]

The way the cats are just vibing with Sheldon is the most wholesome thing ever

[@felixlee9645]

Thank you amy. Heres your cat & heres your 20 dollars

[@Mus34679]

I really wish he’d kept them. His perfect companions!

[@tjwash5118]

The large amount of sedatives they give show cats makes them seem lovable.

[@user-nc3sn8we3h]

And I have a few weeks now to build a better relationship and my wife and lady living with us is to inform regarding the time for the next time they have been doing away with borrowing

[@Savitar.2020]

​@@Mus34679 Don't you mean purrfect companions? Sorry, I'll see myself out

[@charleslarrivee2908]

I wish he had kept Zazzles. He's so...zazzy :)

[@parikalanyantra69]

🎉❤

[@urullereurol2216]

Me too, he really was zazzy 🥰❤️

[@Tacocat-vids]

*does little hand dance with cat

[@Scribe31us]

😅😅😅

[@gregorymoore2877]

He's the zazziest.

[@Sparkledash1]

Oppenheimer: I have become Kitten, destroyer of Furballs.

[@Thunderchild-gz4gc]

I am

[@parikalanyantra69]

🐈

[@TheBandit025Nova]

And The Egyptian God

[@martha-anastasia]

That's a misquote. It's: I am become kitty, destroyer of curtains.

[@sohamagarwal5809]

😂

[@sarahwalter7198]

I can't believe they did an entire episode on cats and didn't sing soft kitty

[@fore101]

Sarah Walter no one was sick. Soft kitty is for when someone is sick.

[@fanfictogirl7178]

@Russell Westbrook yelling at women and children alright. Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur.

[@LukeTheGhostKiller]

@@fore101 Getting a whole bunch of cats because you’re missing your ex is a kinda sick 🥺

[@prakhar.29december]

@@LukeTheGhostKiller I read it in Penny’s voice

[@dbzcupcake]

Well he was heart broken, though not sickness I guess each cat substitutes for one verse of the song

[@HybridDolphin]

"I get it you got alot of cats and gave them cute Jewish names" lmao

[@danieldickson8591]

Laurie Metcalf's Mary Cooper wasn't educated or worldly, but she cut through BS better than anyone.

[@dordonake]

@@danieldickson8591 Very ironic, given her crooked way to deal with her grief for George's death makes her one of the biggest BS artists in history of sitcoms. She's basically a less sympathetic version of Nancy Loomis from "Scream 2".

[@wickedwitchoftheeast88]

​@@dordonake Nancy Loomis was a psychotic serial killer totally different from Mary Cooper who is a devout baptist and god fearing woman

[@becauseimbatman7240]

"You should've called sooner"🤣😂🤣

[@deansutherland6298]

No cats!

[@leannehaddock6254]

@@deansutherland6298 Awww

[@lucifermorningstar2460]

"Do you know why i liked this coment ?"😉😉

[@aandb86]

@@lucifermorningstar2460 because I'm batman

[@kirsty2010dodgs]

I love how they cast her daughter to play Sheldons mother in young Sheldon

[@fazzaah]

Kirsty Dodgson Yeah and she looks just like her!

[@ashatteberry2127]

Kirsty Dodgson her daughter is much more attractive

[@rosierose9787]

Kirsty Dodgson that explains why she sounds a lot like original Sheldon’s mom

[@shihoblade]

No wonder she sounds so much like her. I thought it was just an amazing impression.

[@sheepinatree6577]

No wonder they looked a bit like the same person AND sounded a bit like each other!

[@stellaneko7659]

Did anyone else notice the one cat on the back of the couch just completely stretched out and enjoying itself?

[@techguy943]

That cat is like my cat

[@ShadowRose1622]

No, but I noticed the one with it's leg stretched in the air licking itself in front of Sheldon on the bed.

[@AnimeAngel88]

@@ShadowRose1622 Me too. Typical cat tbh

[@virgoddess3456]

You mean Richard Feynman? 😊

[@danieldickson8591]

Nothing knows how to relax better than a cat.

[@ajdajenkole5002]

There's just something about Sheldon saying "zazzy"...

[@dylangronerthcaballero4730]

Yeaaaah

[@minervamcgonagall8805]

Its puuuurrrrrfection

[@Its_Come_Back]

Bazingaaa

[@imanobody3642]

My cats name was zazzy...well zazzles that's were we got the name when we got the cat from sheldon..but hes not here anymore:(

[@amanhasnoname1052]

Damn it does!!

[@syedahussain5120]

Mary: “Shelly!, dinner’s ready!” Sheldon: “Coming!” Mary:”No cats!” Sheldon: “Aaw”

[@wjt10]

4:00

[@JSRbowling595]

The same disappointed "Awww" that Young Sheldon does 😂

[@syedahussain5120]

@@JSRbowling595 I just find it so cute

[@CNR666]

@@syedahussain5120my mum used to say that to me every time. We had three cats who adored me and more specifically, my bed. I had to leave them there every time dinner was served.

[@cubemissy]

Her line delivery in that scene kills me every time. Perfect comedic timing.

[@orangefox1231]

“You meant an actual girl, not something you kids whipped up in a lab?” Underrated line because knowing them, they’d know how to do it

[@Potato-yd3hv]

FMA vibes :P

[@suziewhattley3917]

That line is homage to "Weird Science", an 80's film where two nerdy science boys turn a barbie doll into a human.

[@edwardbeckon3891]

They don't just know how to do it. Howard actually made "some real strides" in building one--remember the Lisatronic 3000 in S6E5

[@gawainethefirst]

That’s…*WEIRD.* *SCIENCE* can do that?

[@kerryedavis]

That story was the movie and series Weird Science.

[@Alexandar358]

Leonard: Oh no! Sheldon: Robert Oppenheimer was lonely. Leonard: So you decided to get the whole Manhattan Project? LMAO

[@darshilmashru8479]

Oppenheimer*

[@anthonypaule638]

Never heard of zazzles 😂 what is he famous for?

[@_Lane_]

@@darshilmashru8479 And _*Manhattan_ 😉 Finally I understand the reference! 😃

[@_Lane_]

@@anthonypaule638 Being so _zazzy_ ! 😁

[@bones1252]

😂

[@alexanderchristiansen1018]

"No cats" "Aaaaw" Cracks me up XD

[@JonnyKing_27]

"you should have called sooner"

[@kingkongchief1177]

“So you decided to get the whole Manhattan Project?”🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@odorupompokorin22]

"Oh lamb chops. We can quibble what to call it but we can both agree, it's creepy!" 😂 😂 😂

[@majesticworld255]

Odoru Pompokorin, I know, best line in that episode.

[@Sunlight-zx2ur]

😂😂😂

[@wickedwitchoftheeast88]

That line is savage but I love the affectionate tone in her voice when she says it to Sheldon 🤣🤣

[@natalieschannel7675]

“Zazzles! He’s so Zazzy!!”

[@skylee7247]

"Now when you said on the phone he broke up with a girl you meant an actual girl." lol XD

[@richos07]

I guess you could call Sheldon’s first cat “Kitty Oppenheimer”

[@alyssamiller9484]

"Well that's not fancy at all" 😂😂😂 something about the way he said that made me laugh for about 5 minutes straight !!!

[@danieldickson8591]

Sheldon takes advertising literally. He genuinely expected that cat food to look fancy.

[@tzu-yunhuang9762]

Sheldon looks so adorable around those cats though😁

[@abinashmishra329]

Sheldon and his soft kitties

[@michaelheath2866]

Yeah ever since I first heard that song he likes about warm kitties, I knew there was going to be an episode involving cats and I was never so happy to be proven right in my life. I felt like a prophet that night lol.

[@Mugruncher]

Richard Feynman kitty is so cute just laying on the back of the couch, chill as heck ☺️

[@BriEva13]

anybody else sad he didn't keep Zazzy?

[@anitashetty6691]

BriEva13 Zazzles

[@FenderSchonJPX]

BriEva13 lol. Now that you mention it...YES!

[@romancorey6796]

I am

[@lordkira9791]

fuck cats dogs>cats fuck you cats fuck you

[@FenderSchonJPX]

LordKira So tell us what you really think

[@90sblinklifeforlife40]

The ending when Sheldons giving away the cats and $20!XD

[@Shanethefilmmaker]

I know it's meant to be Sheldon being confused and not knowing he should be paid $20, but this is actually pretty clever. Lot of people who want pets often don't have a balanced budget and ergo would barely be able to afford to feed them on the first instance. So naturally while $20 isn't enough it is good for a starter.

[@alexgrim5165]

Blink182Tomforever, 1 of my Fave scenes in this AWESOME show!!

[@midnightpunching6931]

sad part is most of the people are there just for the 20$

[@poluticon]

It would have been funny if someone just took the $20 and tossed the cat aside

[@c4stmiranda902]

Funny but cruel. Another way of looking at it is that Sheldon just rented out those cats from those kids.

[@brasschick4214]

No Schrödinger?😉

[@furioussherman7265]

He didn't work on the Manhattan Project.

[@rangergerald1095]

His referencing Schrödinger's Cat.

[@furioussherman7265]

Bill Ledarck I know, but it doesn't fit the theme.

[@therussmeister]

He had one, but it died.

[@jam2654]

therussmeister and didn't

[@rudecomments681]

Is it coincidence that oppenheimer's wife is named Kitty? 🤣🤣🤣

[@MistressGlowWorm]

Oppenheimer and Teller won't get along.

[@LaLaLadi10]

that white cat chillin on top of the sofa is hilarious

[@DisneyFanatic2364]

Here's the cat rule as someone who's owned cats without it getting out of hand: One is a friend. Two's a friend for the friend. Three's a crowd. In other words, NEVER MORE THAN TWO!

[@thedorkknight9684]

So owning cats is like sith lords.

[@kevinmichael4230]

@@thedorkknight9684 the only difference is that the cat won't try to kill the other cat in his sleep

[@Beccabootiful112]

Reading this as I'm sitting here with my five kitties.

[@Icykaleidescope]

My former neighbor had more than a crowd she was sad tho, busy husband and faraway daughter, must have been a coping mechanism

[@josephgoldberg2392]

Never more than 0

[@trinat3074]

He has the cutest smile at the end when they're giving away cats 😂

[@roshieawed2903]

I like how instead of telling amy that he loves her or misses he shelfon constantly tries to find weird ways to show it

[@nhavyi4142]

X2 💗💗💗

[@samriddhigupta5514]

which makes first half of s9 all the more heartbreaking. 💔

[@anneeq008]

I can't believe nobody else has pointed out how weird or is that Sheldon, who had a touch phobia and a general phobia of pets but like cats and is being so close with them

[@odinfromcentr2]

They're cats. They're so cute and soft that they overcome all of that. :3

[@towardshidayat]

Cats are suitable for people with sensory sensitivities. Unless they smell, are very vocal or constantly seeking affection. None of which, cats usually do. Plus, many people with sensory sensitivities, don't actually dislike physical contact that they are in control of. I don't mind hugs etc, if I am well aware they are coming. Otherwise they feel icky. And touching a human being is very different to touching a furry cat.

[@LaLaLadi10]

the white cat laying on the top of the sofa is freaking presh!

[@GnuHopper]

I bet this is one of Mayim Bialik's favorite episodes. She's written numerous times about her love of cats!

[@DarthWill3]

Why didn't Sheldon give a few of the cats to Howard, Penny, Raj, Amy, and Bernadette? Surely they'd like to have one!

[@allyciphers492]

DarthWill3 Because, tv logic.

[@litziboss2pine588]

DarthWill3 I'm guessing that Sheldon did offer a cat to his group of friends but they weren't interested.

[@idadudenmanner]

Ally Ciphers Yeah they'd have to allocate a whole budget for cat actors. Watch the first episode of 30 Rock,!& I believe Rachel Dratch plays an animal handler who works with "cat actors". Takes her job BETY seriously too...

[@ilovedragonball2435]

DarthWill3 well amy helped him give cats away so she may not have wanted one. Raj has his dog and dogs and cats don’t always get along. Penny doesn’t seem fond of animals and Howard and Bernadette never seem to have any of their own even after Howard loses his mother

[@notthefather3919]

Animals are apparently a challenge to work with on TV sets.

[@virtualpianosheets7143]

I don't think that's how you sell cats..

[@marozmito]

Bobby Papoutsis Theoretical physicists don't earn so much

[@idadudenmanner]

DontTouchMe It's how you make sure you "sell" ALL of your cats though...

[@idadudenmanner]

Giovanni Marozzo At different times throughout the series they seem to depict Sheldon as having money (like how he ends up stockpiling pay checks he hasn't cashed, the time he loans Penny money and he has it hidden all over the house, etc). It might just be that he's managed every buck he's made to the point that he's got a good nest egg... or maybe the grants he's gotten for his research are astoundingly huge and include personal salary that's massive )I'm not sure how grants work but when my mom wrote one for a new teaching program after getting her doctorate she not only got the raise that came with completing her PhD, but a raise that came with being the lead of the program, so who knows how much Sheldon's workin with.

[@youmustcreateachanne]

F. Pena *desperate

[@youmustcreateachanne]

That's how you give them away when others don't want them.

[@jasper3042]

I wonder how many cats they had to audition to find these five that were so chill.

[@Railfan-px9fd]

4:03 No cats! "Awww" 😆

[@amandaschaefer3786]

Mrs Cooper: Shelly, dinner's ready! Sheldon: Coming! Mrs Cooper: No cats! Sheldon: Awww! 🤣🤣🤣

[@AaAa-pf7tj]

Naaah, the scene with Amy isn't in this video.

[@iOB]

My my - that's a...powerful smell!

[@MayDay14000]

proximafase - @3:08😂💀

[@Sunlight-zx2ur]

😂😂😂

[@sonicguyver7445]

Given Sheldon's hypochondria, I'm surprised he managed to handle having so many cats around.

[@sammyeagleson5352]

Aw Sheldon with cat's is _adorable_ 💖💖 He should've kept one of them - like the one on the right bedside stand at 3:54💕

[@adnanasghar1087]

They could've kept a single cat and make it part of the show

[@clarelabellerose]

Zazzles!

[@stefanbrouwer459]

I had to lol when sheldon was not allowed to bring his cats to dinner. "Aww" xD

[@magazine6293]

“There’s nothing He can do to surprise.” “Hold on to that thought.” 😂

[@sallyj632]

Richard Feynman (white cat behind sheldon on the couch) is sooo relaxed 😂

[@HavardCastiglioni]

Sheldon: Introduces 1 cat to his friends* Few moments later Sheldon: *Creats an army of cats*

[@targetseeker]

"Did they sin?" Fast foward a few years "I'm praying for you to sin"

[@TheKorfish]

"You got alot of cats and you gave them cute Jewish names." Still gets me.

[@connection7405]

How did they make the cats so still? Mine would run away after 14 seconds. She doesn't like to be told where to sit :D

[@LokiLoverForever99]

They would have an animal handler on set and they are animal actors.

[@nboon7094]

It's called training.

[@gdobssorr7942]

Lots and lots of catnip. Give them enough and it works the same way as dope does on humans.

[@atomicsnowflake]

Dragan Trninic Sedation 😬💉

[@zainfaisal7894]

Maybe, they told the cats to roam freely.

[@rosstheboss3747]

The ending is another selfless act of Sheldon Cooper

[@masteroftheuniverse9929]

Two words that can never be used together, Sheldon and selfless.

[@desiboosterdose]

Master of the Universe Why Sir? Did you for forgot when Sheldon saved Leonard's life? Just because you cant beat him on intellectual levels and so make fun of him, dont put your negative thoughts on him. 😀

[@masteroftheuniverse9929]

@Chandrakant Mane, Sheldon, is NOT a real person, we are talking about a fictitious character. No matter how intellectual anyone is, does not give them a pass, on mistreating people. Again he is a fictitious character. Stating facts is not, negative thoughts. As for the life saving, that was not selfless as Sheldon, would have died too. Have a nice day!

[@desiboosterdose]

Master of the Universe Sorry Sir, I beg to defer. Sheldon doesnt go around mistreating people. He only points out their stupidity when they them selves prove it. Talking about fictional character, people even make jokes on Einstein or Newton. Why? Just because they dont understand Calculus. 😀 Dumb asses....

[@desiboosterdose]

Master of the Universe Also where did you get this idea that Sheldon would have got killed. Sheldon was safe inside apartment. It was dumb Leonard who was holding the fuel can in his hand. Recall it buddy.

[@katherinealvarez9216]

I love that he also gave $20 to the kids adopting the cats.

[@caroldefender4144]

If I were Sheldon, I would adopt all the cats from the musical "Cats".

[@corksauls9403]

This is how I first learned about Oppenheimer

[@emmanoseworthy2531]

Zazzy looks exactly like my cat Comet. Literally the same markings on his paws, nose, and belly. He's even the same size. Did the producers steal my cat for a day?

[@uncletaylorify]

Dang it! You weren't supposed to find out!

[@JustAnotherPerson4U]

I love how you called your cat Comet! But now that you've picked that for a name I can't ever use it without thinking that I've stolen it...

[@orangefox1231]

Oh she stole it too! From a reindeer! So now you can say Santa Claus gave you the name lol

[@leahryan5560]

Maybe

[@nightangel972000]

I understand where Sheldon is coming from, you can never have just one cat.

[@cadenorris4009]

“Here’s your cat... and here’s your 20 dollars” XD OMG

[@leannehaddock6254]

I bet he sang Soft Kitty to them, they just don't want to show it. XD

[@motherboardbroken2305]

Two words.....NO cats !.... Sheldon gets a cat phobia

[@robynhayward]

I love literally every moment of this episode, it's just all gold

[@1andonlyzara]

We can quibble over what to call it, but I think we can both agree it’s creepy! My favorite line! I love Laurie Metcalf! lol

[@stormwatcher59]

I've been a Laurie Metcalf fan since her days on "Roseanne"! :)

[@perfectlyimperfect2368]

"Well that's not fancy at all" lmao 😂 the first time my mom and I ever saw this scene was in the middle of the night and we were laughing so hard my dad finally came out and asked what was so funny then proceeded to think we were nuts. Lol this entire episode is hilarious and one of my all time favorites. "He's so.. zazzy" still kills me too!😂

[@maybellinelover]

I don't see why Sheldon couldn't keep at least one cat. His friends made him get rid of all of them, even Zazzles.

[@thedorkknight9684]

The episode should have ended with a scream coming from Sheldon's room, and then he and Amy come running out followed by a huge tidle wave of cats😹

[@Alexandar358]

Nice

[@darshilmashru8479]

Tidal*

[@bantehayes9973]

I love when his mom comes over lol she knows just what to say to him.

[@user-wp6zs2gk6l]

One of the funniest episodes of TBBT. Especially the end where Sheldon is paying people to take the cats.

[@pbhoulden8212]

This reminds me of the scene in "Bohemian Rhapsody" when Freddie is showing Roger around his new mansion and he's naming off all his cats (Delilah, Miko, Romeo, etc) and where their rooms are located.

[@wickedwitchoftheeast88]

Freddie was a crazy cat lady at heart. I read in Jim Hutton's book that Romeo went missing as a kitten and Jim said he and the staff were terrified if they didn't find him before Freddie got home because Freddie would go beserk! Apparently he did he threw a very expensive Japanese china plate through the window but thankfully Jim did find Romeo hiding under a parked car. There's a video on here with Freddie's long time assistant Peter Freestone talking about Freddie's cats if you're interested

[@sammyeagleson5352]

Sheldon should've kept zazzles!

[@pbhoulden8212]

It's the return of Aunt Jackie and David at 2:24!

[@Kruppt808]

Paula Houlden , she's probably one of the best tv mom's, the exact opposite of her son. hilarious

[@stormwatcher59]

2 of my favorite actors!! :)

[@sebastiaankruis3006]

But... The roommate agreement prevents any pets!!!

[@mewmewcutie5950]

sebastiaan kruis But apparently he became the crazy cat lady (except he’s a man,)

[@prestonjones1653]

​@@mewmewcutie5950 That's a crazy cat lord.

[@nereidenene7731]

The white cat is so chilled!

[@animemanXLK]

What I love is all those cats are just as chill as can be hanging with Sheldon in his room.

[@sethraelthebard5459]

I kind of liked Feinmann, the big orange Tabby. I do hope these cats got adopted after the show was over. They were remarkably well-behaved. I can only imagine how much the crew played with them between takes.

[@prestonjones1653]

They were professional animal actors.

[@odinfromcentr2]

​@@prestonjones1653You're saying they were thoroughly trained purrfessionals? 😛

[@goofballproductions7629]

Didn't he call it Enrico Fermi at first?

[@TsukabuNosoratori2]

Imagine one of Sheldon's kids years later wanting pets. Sheldon will be like "My time is come, let's go to the shelter Jr."

[@phanpiggy]

You'd think a smart man like Sheldon would know cats shouldn't be given milk.

[@justabitch4671]

I wanna hug and kiss all of those kitties Omg......so adorable😍

[@mgfoster9197]

No one is talking about how Feynman is just chilling on the couch

[@abinashmishra329]

Surely you’re joking! Wait till I bring some bongos!

[@emadavicii7636]

Who's here after watching 'The Oppenheimer' ?

[@krischette4108]

Who else is here after watching Oppenheimer

[@pennywisethedancingclown2246]

No-one. I read about the Manhattan project when you were in diapers.

[@lieselcloe]

Cats are the best antidepressants ever.

[@MrTron114]

Who else came here right after watching Oppenheimer?

[@pennywisethedancingclown2246]

No-one

[@samraymond4464]

I'm surprised that there wasn't one in a box called "Shrodinger"

[@abadambly8357]

Because Schrodinger's was the physicist, not the cat.

[@leandrog2785]

@@abadambly8357 So what? It still makes sense to name the cat "Schrödinger". You seem to be trying to be a smartass.

[@pkequestrian6388]

They should've let him keep zazzles

[@thaneindranaidu8688]

Why?

[@bonniestar4707]

Because he is so Zazzy

[@Altair9678]

Lol, I didn't remember that..."So you got The Whole Manhatten Project!?"... Should have kept Zazzles...keep those pesky birds away...or Openhiemer...Nuc'e them into radioactive dinner.

[@lastswordfighter]

You know what I am disappointed Sheldon being such a Star Trek fan didn't name one of them Spot. I mean has dressed as Data for fan conventions and has difficulty socializing that would be a good reference to make for this show especially for Sheldon as a character.

[@bonniestar4707]

@@lastswordfighter Don't you mean Spock ? Leonard said Sheldon got 28 cats so we didn't see all of them, maybe he did call one Spock

[@Leo_frr]

@@bonniestar4707 spot is a cat in star trek

[@bonniestar4707]

@@Leo_frr Ahh okay, I don't watch Star Trek so I only know the major characters.Maybe he does have one named Spot among the 28 anyway.

[@Leo_frr]

@@bonniestar4707 damn, didn't expect you'd reply to a reply of a 2 year old comment lol

[@cruisematt8585]

When my kids were younger we named one of our cats Zazzles, Zazzie, for short, just because of Sheldon

[@OzzieAndy1983]

Sheldon's apartment should have been called the Cat Cave, a play on the term Bat Cave.

[@rlviolingirl]

Who’s here after watching Oppenheimer 😂🐈

[@glori_val]

Now that there is the movie Oppenheimer , I appreciate the jokes more 🤣🤣🤣

[@pennywisethedancingclown2246]

Oppenheimer existed before the movie... You could've researched the Manhattan project.

[@opsgrim]

Most cats are lactose intolerant, that is really something Sheldon should know.

[@AaAa-pf7tj]

I wouldn't be surprised he got them no-lactose milk 😊

[@herog9625]

I'm cat person but I would just be happy with 3

[@easternlights3155]

"Robert Oppenheimer was lonely." Ain't that the truth. He allegedly once said something along the lines of "physics is more important than friends"

[@kiarialuna912]

I love how the white one is laying on the couch

[@lhia0416]

I love how Richard Feynman spreads himself on the couch.

[@djtumble6911]

Feynman changed from white to orange.

[@mallorymcdonald9654]

We named one of our cats, Zazzles! He’s such a good boi!!!

[@ahmadzahid9144]

Who is here after watching Oppenheimer?

[@Theri4444]

I must say I really like her as Sheldon's mother and I hope we get to see more of her in Big Bang Theory as Sheldons mom. Shoot I'd like to see more of the actress that plays as Leonards mom even more

[@eaglesfan226]

“And here’s your $20” I thought the idea was to MAKE money selling the cats

[@nikhiliyengar1510]

That's... the joke.

[@sarahwalter7198]

"Where do you see yourself in 10 years?"

[@stsamurai_]

I love how Howard is like Sheldon’s second mother lmao. Mary’s like “I’ve seen it all” but he’s a whole new Sheldon.

[@bonniestar4707]

I wish Sheldon had kept Zazzles and maybe someone else could have kept Dr Robert Offeniemer