Beethoven Symphony No 3 in E♭ „Eroica“ Alondra de la Parra Tonhalle Orchester Zürich

Ludwig van Beethoven
Sinfonie Nr 3 in Es-Dur op. 55 „Eroica“ (Heroische Sinfonie), Symphony No 3 in E♭
Alondra de la Parra conducts Tonhalle Orchester Zürich
1. Allegro con brio
2. Marcia funebre: Adagio assai in C minor 16:40
3. Scherzo: Allegro vivace, at 30:58
4. Finale: Allegro molto, at 36:16
交響曲第3番 (ベートーヴェン)
第3號交響曲 (貝多芬)
Симфония № 3 (Бетховен)
السيمفونية الثالثة (بيتهوفن)
3η Συμφωνία (Μπετόβεν)
הסימפוניה השלישית של בטהובן
교향곡 3번 (베토벤)

[@alered1098]

Mexican proud! In my land, we're so happy that this woman reached the success arround the world. greetings from Mexico City!

[@chenlaoding]

I’m with you brother 😊

[@arthurenzo3075]

You can be proud of such a talented and gifted conductor who is also so beautiful and charming. The tempo and dynamic are terrific. Beethoven would love it.Ih Germany we only have one foreign minister who thinks she is great and charming. Greetings from Germany to Mexico.

[@christopherslane7830]

Alondra is a national treasure of Mexico.

[@attiliocevidalli7081]

Alondra de la Parra interpreta magistralmente il pathos di questa grande sinfonia

[@Schleiermacher1000]

What a pleasant appearance - the conductor!

[@t.e.1189]

That's an understatement for sure.

[@MyPaulocorrea]

Me deu a impressão de que os músicos estavam realmente adorando tocar. Alondra é genial!

[@竹内輝夫-i9y]

アロンドラの美貌に思わず、見とれてしまいました。 映画女優のようですね。 生き生きとした表情、 ベートーヴェンのスコアの細部が見えてくるような、 刻々と変わる豊かな表情。 アロンドラの棒に応えて、 オーケストラがじつに、 いい音をだしてます、素晴らしい演奏です❗ オーケストラの面々の、 音楽する喜びが伝わってきました。 オーボエ、じつにいいですね。 ベートーヴェンの名曲の名演奏‼️ ホールにつどった聴衆の感動も伝わってきました。 素晴らしい演奏、素晴らしい映像‼️ ありがとうございました。

[@katrinat.3032]

To those criticizing her baton method, I know the conductor needs to beat the rhythm but they do not have to stand there and be a human metronome. Especially when you have such talented professionals as these. This has a lot of flair, I like it

[@arthurenzo3075]

The combination fits. Top orchestra is conducted brilliantly. A magnificent dynamic performance by a highly talented and gifted conductor and as a bonus also extremely pretty and charming!

[@angelatrinhtrinh3567]

Orgullo Mexicano…. ❤

[@shimadatoru]

The 1st movement may be the best performance I’ve ever heard especially its sharp sound of the timpani!

[@chrisnoirstier9989]

Es la primera vez que escucho y veo a Alondra de la Parra dirigiendo así, que pinche orgullo nacional, felicidades, lo digo con lágrimas.

[@anamartinezregalado5480]

Si con esta amateur estas hasta las lagrimas, cuando la oigas con un director de verdad como Klemperer se te aflojará el intestino.

[@chrisnoirstier9989]

@@anamartinezregalado5480 jajaja tranquilo, mi maestro, yo pensaba igual que tu, pero es más feliz disfrutar y apreciar.

[@federicoferro5658]

es maravillosa...... realmente sorprende su calidez femenina.........

[@aquifranc]

​@@anamartinezregalado5480amateur??? Sólo porque es mexicana. No, pues tú has de ser europea !!!! Cuando una paisana sobresale, no entienden y confunden sobresale con sobre-ella!!!!!

[@gerardod4915]

​@@aquifrancno sé si sea correcto el término de amateur para esta "directora" pero sin duda es bastante mala. De hecho es un poco grosera la comparación con Klemperer.

[@vessiealdakou2292]

Η Αλόνδρα είναι εκθαμβωτική και τη θαυμάζω πάρα πολύ!!! Λατρεύω τις αντιθέσεις στις δυναμικές και τα σημεία με φόρτε, στα οποία όλη η ορχήστρα πετυχαίνει έναν απαράμιλλο ήχο!!!

[@guygregoire6378]

Beautiful conductor! She’s the only one with no sheet music!

[@rahulradhakrishnan5591]

Every orchestra tends to slow down at the end of this symphony--the coda at the end of the 4th movement: 46:45. This is one of those few orchestras that actually plays it at Presto and this is one of the greatest recordings I've heard.

[@AndreyRubtsovRU]

Oh. Poor orchestras! They slow down. Hahaha

[@petertard]

A very refreshing, refined and subtle performance.

[@hatyh]

アンドラさんの美貌が際立ちますが、それに勝るとも劣らない、極めて心震える名演奏でした。わたしの音楽体験の中で"最も可憐な"『英雄』と言えます。英雄というより、むしろ英雄のロマンスとでも形容すべきかもしれません。オーケストラは、まるでアンドラさんの指先の詩情に共鳴するかのように、優美に旋律を紡ぎ出していました。DVD化してもいいくらいです。

[@AnaLuisCastillo]

Gracias por compartirlo...¡¡ Alondra siempre maravillosa...¡¡ Un regalo para los sentidos y un apapacho para el alma. Bravo...¡¡

[@wolfgangbrakhan3250]

Großartig!!!

[@excaliburhead]

Excellente

[@chaikagome9725]

Bravo!!

[@russs7574]

Thank you for posting this video. It is a wonderful interpretation of the Eroica. I know if Beethoven could hear how his music has held up for over 200 years, and how it is being presented today, he would be most impressed.

[@MengeNicolas]

Tan fresca como hermosa. Mi nueva versión favorita de la Heroica, ¡Bravo, Parra!

[@sebastianalcaraz2382]

Alondra de la Parra performs very well the opening and the rest of the piece, I think is the original that Beethoven would desire, it's 100% pure accordingly to the philosophical view of the 18th century, Hegel the more remarkable philosopher. So there is a parallel to Hegelian philosophy and Beethoven music, Beethoven's music represents the ideals of the enlightenment in a power and passionate way to express the human spirit in all its splendor, Hegel adored Napoleon as does Beethoven, who said "the world spirit on horseback", But Beethoven composed this memorial symphony to a great man because Napoleon His hero became an autocratic self-glorifying individual. In short, Symphony no.3 "Eroica"= a picture of the 18th century and the contemporary time only around 54 minutes

[@김태현-z3o]

Her gesture is a poetic expression of the beauty and dynamism of Symphony Eroica.

[@bill1949d]

So many conductors race through symphonies like express trains on a tight schedule, Most of them lose the spirit and passion in the music. Alondra has old fashioned sensitivity. More please.

[@bill1949d]

Rock musicians imagine they invented heavy beats. Beethoven expressed his emotion with sledgehammer beats. Alondra really understands this.

[@alvisebadoero7015]

She is a great conductor. Fantastic !! Brava !!

[@白鷺菜々]

Beethoven Symphony No 3 in E♭ „Eroica“ Alondra de la Parra Tonhalle Orchester Zürich Impressed.

[@nicolasheroify]

Magnifique version, un grand bravo à la chef et aux musiciens.

[@KeinOber]

Wo ist der 3. Satz (Scherzo) hingekommen?? (= the 3rd movement is missing!) Bei 30:58 beginnt bereits der 4. Satz und bei 42:16 ist die Musik bereits zu Ende!

[@nickroosh9407]

From my understanding it was probably cut from youtube after upload. The orchestra didn't play a symphony without a 3rd movement. If you see after the 2nd movement finishes, the conductor quickly proceeds to give the attack for the next, but the video instantly changes and orchestra starts later than expected. At this point also the audience's cough changes volume, which indicates that it's two different moments tied together. Also the description and a lot of comments give time stamps that make no sense, and almost nobody in the comments section mention this huge miss.

[@TehKaiser]

@@nickroosh9407 Might have been a reupload or something. Copyright or something.

[@arisoto2560]

De nuevo , excelente, maestra Parra

[@menahembrodchandel4617]

a very refined conductor and great orchestra........bravo.....

[@hozeluii1566]

Alondra : Me alegro ¡Siempre a mejor!

[@sltomsik]

Mejor que nunca. Tiempo, dinámica de expresion, el balanceo, la claridad, de melodía cantabile: es todo perfecto.

[@jamescole6420]

This is utterly superb.

[@herbiecactus6687]

Am I the only one who can't seem to locate a Scherzo in this video?

[@MarcdeDiv]

You are right. The Scherzo is missing .... A real shame ....

[@franktana824]

Me too most importantly Satz ist lost Beethoven‘s Most loved Horn parts!!!

[@markcorveleijn7803]

Indeed. Why?

[@zeu.freitashorn2913]

Sensacional 👏👏

[@federicoferro5658]

es inegable, el sello femenino que la directora le da a la ejecucion....... °!que bueno¡

[@ericchaillier6187]

Un joli minois et de grands gestes ne suffisent pas à faire une grande interprétation. Cette cheffe d'orchestre ne cesse de sourire durant tout le premier mouvement et même parfois pendant la Marcia funebre ! C'est ignorer le combat que livre Beethoven au sortir d'une grave crise l'ayant mené au bord du suicide. Gustav Mahler, immense chef d'orchestre, cherchait toujours à aller au-delà des notes. Cette interprétation sonne bien mais sonne creux. Karajan (concert du jubilé du Berliner Philharmoniker) reste insurpassable.

[@JG-zq7kw]

Ah, está dirigiendo la Heróica. Cuesta adivinarlo! (y seguro que a los músicos seguirla.... )

[@toyonoriwatanabe1256]

Bravo! But no Scherzo. Was it deleted in the video or no Scherzo played in the concert??

[@antyzhang2203]

超赞！

[@萩原耕介-g3s]

Arra conducted Beethoven No.3 so so so beautiful in juicy rhythm, tempo and articulation. I love this Beethoven. I think Eroica rhythm might be difficult for Asian, for some reason other. I'm Japanese old(89yrs.) I like Karajan Eroica, veryveryvery natural and juicy.

[@pierrejonette613]

Dear Sir, congratulations. Rgrds.

[@neilvaron]

why is the scherzo missing?

[@takuoakai9326]

When was this concert recorded??

[@NicholasAnram-tk3bj]

46:40

[@RebeccaHartmanBaker]

bravo this is so cool!.

[@alexhamilton9758]

What happened to the 3rd movement? As of 2/11/2024, it is not part of this video.

[@macorona]

She's a central dancer, just follows the orchestra. She is not conducting. Pay attention, musicians don't even look at her, they play well because they have good training. Her movements don't match the energy of the piece. After listening to Bruno Walter, Sergiu Celibidache, Jochum, Klemperer, this version is everything but an excellent one.

[@bostonviewer5430]

Thanks for you comment. Yes, you are correct in every way. I hope you're well wherever you may be Seas Sano Amigo A.

[@Noctifern]

john eliot gardiner has the best recording ive ever heard of this symphony. this one is terrible

[@무위자연-g2v]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😍😍😍

[@ckhvklbff]

40:31

[@atrebil71]

Brava!

[@bachianm2375]

To my modesty this seems as a student's or a beginner's conducting. And I don't mean the lady's appearance (which I don't care about) but I just listen to music, to the way that music sounds and what it tells us. The orchestra is not well coordinated and the conception is without depth and refinement that "Eroica" requires.

[@richardfox6595]

Maybe you'd do better.

[@bachianm2375]

@@richardfox6595 If I were a conductor, I surely would. Maybe you wouldn't.

[@Qee7en]

Couldn't agree more - I wonder if the people who are praising this rendition in the comments have ears... they surely have no musical training whatsoever

[@JavierRuiz-fn9tb]

Let's find the middle point. This performance Is nor precisely unforgetable...At least, nota in the right Sense.

[@TehKaiser]

Faster tempos displease the bourgeois and high brow fans of classical, it seems, even though the intensity of the last movement is necessary to convey the revolutionary spirit of what Napoleon represented to Beethoven. Furthermore, dismissed quickly as reasons for the audio quality include compression or source recording being defective.

[@gerardod4915]

Ya habia escuchado esto hace tiempo y mi opinion era mala. Le vuelvo a dar una oportunidad y me resulta igual o mas gris que antes. No es mas que una "directora" mimo que no aporta nada y solo la sacan adelante los músicos. No es casualidad que en Mexico no la traguen los músicos profesionales.

[@magdalenakozie7702]

0:36, 0:53

[@frankfiello7904]

Wonderful, thank you all so much.

[@ruhstill1399]

Alondra de la Parra is horrendous !

[@JoelLeBras]

Where the hell is the scherzo ?

[@aseverino]

Bravo por esta extraordinaria director de orquesta. Maravillosa versión de la "Eroica", llena de nervio y musicalidad. Estoy en desacuerdo con los envidiosos comentarios de Nuolo y de Corona. Los resentidos son muy infelices. Seguramente son de izquierda política.

[@takuoakai9326]

Ａlondra　is　the　most　beautiful　conductor　in　the　world,　Ｉ　am　sure.　Ｂut　whether man or woman is not important. The key is her music interpretation. I am surprised her music has become more dynamic and deeper than several years ago. She is also now one of the best maestros in the world.

[@markalanlongo]

Alondra’s left hand is sooo expressive!

[@ВалерийБорисов-п1р]

Посмотрите это видео без звука.

[@ilyamurom]

Всё понятно 😉

[@abalone317]

She seems to have a hard time separating the two hands. She's either pulsing the tempo with both, or emoting with both.....but they should actually be independent of one another.

[@massawax]

And I think her interpretation needs to find some more depth . It is coming out as a cheerful spring evening, whereas the inner core of the music is tragic in a forceful manner

[@massawax]

I like her more in Prokofiev and Copland

[@juanuceda401]

Say that to Furtwängler...

[@orientaldagger6920]

It's a nice performance, very beautiful. The Tonhalle Orchestra knows this music as well as any and can likely play it just fine without any conductor.

[@troyking4502]

I came here for the scherzo

[@ralphnuolo3359]

Qué tristeza que la corrupción llegue hasta esas salas..........¿como se atreve a subirse a ese escenario....... con esa obra?...........pareciera que se mofa, pues sus becas de estudio etc las obtuvo por relaciones politicas con los Zedillo...recordemos que Beethoven rompìó la hoja con el donde aparecía dedicatoria a Napoleon Bonaparte......de palabras de Beethoven `` ¡Ahora solo va a obedecer a su ambición, elevarse más alto que los demás, convertirse en un tirano!´´........ni siquiera puedo decir como habría reaccionado Bheetoven al ver a la corrupción dirigiendo su obra . Creo que habría subido y le habría arrebatado el score a ella y los músicos se levantarían e irían a sus casas averonzados con llanto en los ojos de pena . Basta de Burlas en el arte. Por fortuna en Europa se dieron cuenta de su nulo talento. Gracias a los músicos que pudieron rescatar más o menos.

[@guillenmanejando3831]

Gracias...ya te darán tus croquetas. Los chairos del peje.

[@ralphnuolo3359]

@@guillenmanejando3831 saludos antiartista nako

[@macorona]

Los músicos ni la voltean a ver.realmente es una bailarina central, su lenguaje corporal no dice nada, dirige igual un 'crescendo' que un pianissimo. Vaya, ni se despeina. Cuida más sus movimientos estudiados que el momento. Si Beethoven viera esto, rompería el resto de la partitura. Efectivamente la corrupción llegó hasta la cocina.

[@ralphnuolo3359]

@@macorona parece un títere ….. cero expresión …. Cero talento …. Ahhh pero frunce el ceño como si sintiera la música ….es una nefasta payasita de la dirección ( súper chafa 😅)

[@aquifranc]

Cuántos amarga2 existen en este mundo. En vez de disfrutar de la música se dedican a criticar, sin conocer a fondo a las personas. Me pregunto, ustedes lo harían bien, si algún día tuvieran la oportunidad?? Creo que no. !!!!! Solo les duele ver a alguien triunfar, sea cual sea la razón, solo demuestran su nula calidad humana. !!!!!!

[@claudioribezzo3141]

It is embarrassing for an orchestra of this level to humble itself by allowing itself to be directed by an amateur and totally inadequate conductor.

[@rflzvl]

That trauermarsch is so boring and dreadful

[@geraldbalzano431]

Interesting, but depressing, to see the supercilious, condescending, and pretentious reactions of some reviewers to this female conductor.

[@dbernardstevens475]

Yes; it’s fantastic. And if anyone doubts her chops, from memory no less. The orchestra is clearly engaged with her and their interpretation is joyful and appropriate; it feels like the music is new! Some people expect fault because of who the conductor is and only listen for that. I challenge those saying “those with ears can say this is awful” to pick this out of an audio lineup of post-Norrington and Gardner interpretations.

[@spikespa5208]

I await with bated breath the video *_their_* interpretations conducting an orchestra of this caliber doing this piece.

[@bostonviewer5430]

Well... she does seem to be enjoying herself. A good first try? Is she a student conductor? This may be the dullest since Ozawa's recording with San Francisco back in the 1970s Perhaps she will mature over time?

[@bostonviewer5430]

@IB_AARAV RAKESH Thanks for saying HI. I don't know how "distilled" my ears are but yours is a fair question regarding my own preferences and to keep to mostly "live" recordings and those available here on KZbin I offer you a list of performances I've listened to more than a few times and I'm happy to share. I do love this work and I'm always interested in hearing different of points of view and while each of these esteemed gentleman have their points of view the spirit of Beethoven is always at the core of their work for me. I wonder if you will find that to be so as well. Bernstein: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJyzZGabqKica8k Furtwangler: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX_KoJuZjLZ0gNU Jochum: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZmWfWWnn89ggM0 Klemperer: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWiygImrhZx4ntU Mengelberg: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mafCiGaBnK1gbs0 Munch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpqpnKCIYp6ji7M Tennstedt: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4aUlnurgLl5bsU Toscanini: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zp3Um59tl9B3eKc

[@bostonviewer5430]

@IB_AARAV RAKESH I might ask you the same :) Yes to Karajan. I prefer the earlier cycles with the Philharmonic and the earliest one with Berlin. There is one that is hard to get, because it is now so expensive, of Karajan on tour in Japan with the Berlin Philharmonic in 1966. More drive and passion than the studio recordings less polish which is not a bad thing. I'm wondering which do you prefer, that is of performances of the Eroica? I'd like to know what do you honestly think about Maestra Alondra de la Parra's performance? Hope you're safe and well wherever you may be.

[@geraldbalzano431]

Perhaps YOU will mature over time?

[@bostonviewer5430]

@@geraldbalzano431 Ah, yes. Perhaps I will And, what is your opinion of this performance? Thanks for saying HI!

[@Qee7en]

Totally agree with this - I do not understand all the praise in the comments. People need to close their eyes and listen to realize that this is some really uninspired music making

[@mariadelrefugiogonzalez-hn4cx]

Mal producto de la mercadotecnia. Muy mala directora.

[@lFan.2784]

La peor

[@adrianluna1030]

Eh, I would say that it looks like she was focused more on tempo and less on expression. I would have liked to see her moves to be more reflective of the music, to many missed opportunities.

[@nigelgoldberg7348]

Shocking, and not in a good way

[@lFan.2784]

I agree

[@karlayazminbaezcabrera7896]

Sobrevalorada y mediocre. Bendito marketing que infla a gente sin talento.

[@atrebil71]

Ma va la...

[@thiagomeireles9874]

Tu es que es la talentosa, o estoy equivocado? Felicitaciones, entonces, conductora!

[@abalone317]

Completely agree.

[@erikarociogalvan3165]

La música genial ..wow.. y ella, grande!!!

[@hectorricardovegagutierrez1403]

¿Alguien sabe quien es Karla Yazmin Baez Cabrera? Yo no y ni me interesa.

[@scotchwhisky6094]

Flat and boring.

[@jkliu794]

Where is the Horn trio in the third chapter ?