BEETLEJUICE BEETLEJUICE MOVIE REVIEW | Double Toasted

[@ThePonderer]

This movie feels like 3 episodes of a really good Beetlejuice TV show haphazardly smashed together.

[@Hugh_Jannis]

I'm sad Korey didn't do a full Beetlejuice costume and makeup 🙁

[@feIipendo]

Was about to say the same 😂

[@OGMillyMillz_]

Y’all crying about not seeing a grown man in makeup and a costume?

[@Hugh_Jannis]

​​@@OGMillyMillz_ Korey dressing up in silly costumes is a fun part of this channel. If you're not down with that then maybe Double Toasted ain't for you. There's the door 🚪

[@earthsongeb]

I clicked on this fully expecting him to be dressed up. Surprised he didn't do it for this video.

[@OGMillyMillz_]

@@Hugh_Jannis he’s funny without the costume and makeup

[@ArrowPr0ducti0ns]

this movie is not great - and you’re aware while watching it’s juggling too many ideas, but it’s undeniably a lot of fun.

[@fruttlicious]

That’s how I felt watching it. Like the whole time I felt it was good but something felt like it was off. Like Lydia‘s stepmother being joke to as a struggling artist. Funny to a degree but it seemed over the top then before. But double toasted gave me the answer I was looking for, it was a mixed bag

[@Dragonk116]

​@@fruttliciousI think the joke is art has become such a joke of itself that her art has made a big hit now these days.

[@fruttlicious]

@@Dragonk116 maybe, I felt she was a bit over the top in this then the last movie. Then again different decade

[@Lvestfold4143]

@@fruttlicious keep in mind this is a post-Beetlejuice Delia whose husband just passed. She dealt with being ostracised by her inner circle (a couple of them likely killed by Betelgeuse), her art coming to life and restraining her and being forced to watch her step daughter almost marry a sleazy demon, and live in a house with ghosts for several years, and make it big in the art world, and then have her husband die only for the perverted demon to pop-up again.

[@fruttlicious]

@@Lvestfold4143 I see what you mean. For I guess I figure she found her voice or felt calm after. Like in the end of the first movie she looked calmed that it’s over

[@codyprice2616]

Tim Burton might be known for not having many African Americans in his films, but the reason he dropped out of Batman Forever was that he did cast an African American as Robin and the studio didn’t want an African American playing Robin since he was Caucasian in the comics. The African American actor that he cast as Dick Grayson/Robin was Marlon Wayans. Actually he had a great cast and a darker story lined up for Batman Forever, and Warner Bros. screwed it up for everyone. The cast was supposed to be Michael Keaton as Batman, Marlon Wayans as Robin, Robin Williams as The Riddler, and Billy Dee Williams reprising his role as Harvey Dent from the first two films and officially becoming Two-Face. I would have loved to seen that version of Batman Forever instead of the version that we got.

[@wilcee238]

There’s a Batman 89’ comic series that uses all of the ideas you just typed

[@TheEnmity]

That wasn’t *the reason* Burton left, Marlon was cast for Returns and was still paid while being removed from the script, but Burton was essentially quietly fired because Returns was criticized for being to dark at the time and it affected the merchandising. But he did indeed want a black Robin and a black Two-Face, both completely disregarded with Burton’s departure

[@danavixen6274]

YES! I would've supported this! I think Marlon Wayans would've had chemistry with Michael Keaton.🦇

[@CLDJ227]

​@@danavixen6274 Sure, although had social media existed back then would people have complained about that casting at the time 🤔?

[@Lvestfold4143]

It really wouldn’t make sense to blame the studio when they okayed the race swap for Harvey Dent. The real reason he left was because he was fired due to the complaints by McDonald’s who had merchandise tie-ins with Batman Returns but had difficulty moving products claiming the film wasn’t family friendly enough.

[@JohnnyNada]

They did my boy Bob dirty ...

[@deadsetmassascared]

It's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday 😢😢😢😢

[@ArrowPr0ducti0ns]

Justice for Bob

[@avgnfandon2]

BOB😭

[@cannichole6061]

Poor BOB 😢. I wish they had a Bob head for the cup.

[@cannichole6061]

I mean dressed as Beetlejuice

[@Bozek10]

Critically it doing well. Critics say that it's Burton's best film in years. Everybody on set said that all had a good time. Burton like going back to practical effects than CGI.

[@michaelgreene4816]

This movie is MUCH BETTER THAN COLEMAN SAYS. See it people. Burton's best in years. It isnt nostalgia. It is visionary. 8 on 10.

[@boomstickcritique902]

The story in the OG Beetlejuice was pretty basic and thin. It was the imagination of the world that Burton created that makes it such a magical masterpiece. I get with a sequel maybe expectations might be higher because it's a part 2 but realistically Beetlejuice was never about a great story. The original Beetlejuice is loved today but at the time it was released it got a mixed critical reception. The critical reviews while overall positive for the sequel aren't much different from the first. A lot of the critic reviews for the original when it came out were complaints about style over substance. Burton has actually always been style over substance his movies are so loved by a cult fan base because of his style. Most of his stories in his films have always been thin.

[@nichescenes]

It’s literally what happened in the video. If you’re new to the story it’s impressive to you. This will be in nostalgic for kids growing up today. Corey is nostalgic about the first one and can’t see why anyone would change or try to update something. He loved and doesn’t notice that it was always the way it is now it never had a story that was that deep. People have such a reverence for the past these days and forget that kids growing up now have a reverence for the movies. They watched now for some kids for example, the lion King remake will be there nostalgic movie if you try to show them the old school animation it looks kind of too old for them, we can’t just stop making movies and we can’t just make every single movie new since we’ve run out of ideas anyway only so many ideas and you make people cry that they get or there’s too much exposition to get across what the story is because it’s too new and you don’t know or are not familiar with the tropes people and explain themselves and their made sense so I’m not really talking about them with the last part I said

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@nichescenes I think it's like that with most people with what they grow or grew up with. But also at the time Burtons style was fresh and not seen before so I think for them they feel it's played out for them. I think there asking more from Burton now then what they would have when his first few flicks came out if you go back and watch the first Beetlejuice and Pee Wee Big Adventure there was never a great or deep story in either film. Both films had good basic stories and what made them better was Burtons style and the worlds he created for them to take place in. Tim Burton has never been an amazing story teller he's always been fun over substance and that's fine but it won't be for everyone. If you go back and watch his Batman 1989 film the story is not some intricate or great study on Batmans character as a hero. It's a fun superhero comic fantasy with Jack as the Joker bouncing off the walls.

[@gcolbyp]

Yeah I love the original Beetlejuice, helI I even rewatched it earlier in prep for the sequel, but even I will the story isn’t anything to ride home about. It’s basically Burton’s imagination & weird aesthetic and the fun characters that makes the movie so great.

[@Psilocybin77]

yeah so basic, so many stories of a couple being killed by a terrier, then finding themselves in the afterlife, whilst still being ghosts, then having to deal with the uptight yuppy family from the city in their former home, along with their slightly odd daughter, then contacting a paranormal entity to help get rid of the family. Dime a dozen.

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@Psilocybin77 The basic plot is 2 ghosts trying to drive away a family that they don't like then ending up bonding with the goth stereotypical daughter character. There's nothing deep about the plot.

[@littlebigmarc]

That soul train scene can't possibly be real 🤣🤣🤣 Tim is wild.

[@yasinradee]

Yoooo. I was like WTF. Weird asf.

[@Harrison_Furred]

It's real, all right.

[@Planag7]

It's very real. In regards to the shrunken heads though they were a feature in the cartoon but I don't think they actually watched that xD

[@FestArc]

@@yasinradee Why is it weird? It's a Soul Train, and it runs on soul music and is a callback to the Soul Train show.

[@EzeICE]

Ooooh It's very very real my friend. LOL

[@wilcee238]

This still sounds better than that Rob Zombie Munsters movie.

[@JohnnyNada]

@@wilcee238 oh come on. This one is very good and that's one of the worst movies I've ever seen🤣 no comparison

[@OneEyedKingg]

Random

[@maximusprime3459]

A root canal is better than the Rob Zombie Munsters movie.

[@br3akstuff]

I like Rob Zombie but it wasn't great.

[@47Cartoonguy]

The shit I took this morning was better than the Rob Zombie Munster movie hell the Rob Zombie Halloween movies were better than the Munsters movie

[@Shane_Murphy_Hendrickson]

Beetlejuice was released in 1988.

[@ladyhotep5189]

I was wondering how he was 16 in 86.

[@Terelon]

Original "Beetlejuice" was released in 1988; Jenna Ortega's character is named Astrid; Reportedly, Willem Dafoe's character was a living actor playing a Tom Cruise type, takes on a cop/detective in the Afterlife with much dedication.

[@Mr.Feather130]

As someone who watched the film with my family,it’s a thrill ride of a sequel and definitely worth it for a 30+ year wait

[@GantzIsSloppy]

liar

[@Mr.Feather130]

@@GantzIsSloppy *visible confusion*

[@boomstickcritique902]

Actually in the cartoon they hint that Beetlejuice has feelings for Lydia in the series as well. In ome specific episode he gets jealous when a boy has a crush on her lol.

[@nichescenes]

Yeah, Corey must not have watched a lot of the episodes, but by the end they kind of were a couple without the word spoken out loud

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@nichescenes It was hinted multiple times in the series that he had a crush on her. I think he probably saw some episodes but just hasn't seen the show in so long that he probably doesn't remember much.

[@nichescenes]

@@boomstickcritique902 yeah doesn’t he call her babe. And she gets sad when he’s not around. I think we just were seeing it as innocent back then. Idk. 🤷 different mindset. Like how nudity is in dragonball a magazine for teens in Japan but censored in west. The said nudity is a quick joke or innocent to them to us it’s technically labeled p. lol. 😂

[@1977TA]

@@nichescenes I watched a couple episodes of the cartoon last night. The entire series is currently streaming on Tubi. Despite the low- key tone I could tell right away that Beetle Juice and Lydia are definitely a couple and yes, he calls her "Babes." The subtle relationship hints go over kids' heads.

[@hothotheat3000]

Yeah, he hated Prince Vince🤣. This movie would’ve been so much better if they grew to be friends by the end. Like, she digs occult shit, he digs that she’s into occult shit, they should be besties.

[@FranklinHicks-qs4gs]

You guys are missing the point. Ortega explained it best with "The afterlife is so random"

[@JeremyAustin-hw1qy]

Beetlejuice was filmed in 88 and Michael wasn't in the original as much because he was also filming batman close together

[@mufasa37]

So Tim Burton was directing both films at the same time?

[@JeremyAustin-hw1qy]

@@mufasa37 maybe yeah

[@lordofthereels6790]

Burton's Sleepy Hollow needs way more love

[@bigpictureguys8415]

Seriously. Creeped me the hell out as a kid

[@tomlewis4205]

❤️🖤❤️

[@Dr3amR3almStudios]

Agreed! One of my favorites besides Edward Scissorhands & Sweeney Todd!☠️🎃

[@PacDork]

Beet’s wife was kinda hinted at in the first. When he pulls the ring off the finger and says “she meant nothing to me”

[@IceSkateUpHilll]

It was a throwaway joke at best. But now she’s a character all of a sudden

[@ShazeemKhan]

I think it is neat they followed up on said joke when she is being put together that tgat same ring finger was severed

[@SSJNinoAnime]

How do you know 😂 for all you know she could have been planned from the jump. I mean burton was trying to do beetle juice in the 90s​@@IceSkateUpHilll

[@TheTrashStash]

i actually liked that beetlejuice wrapped up all the situations really fast. he did that in the first one too, he solves the problem with the maitlands dying in less than 3 minutes and the rest of that scene is him trying to marry lydia. this one def wasnt a perfect movie, but i had alot of fun watching it. reminded me of the humor from mars attacks and ed wood. maybe we'll get some kind of extended directors cut when it hits blu ray.

[@KamiAnimeS1]

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice was freaking amazing! I loved it more than the first 10/10. Really like how to put Beetlejuice more in the second movie, but they did it so very tastefully and didn’t overdid Michael Keaton did Beetlejuice like he just stepped off the filming of the first movie and made the second one. Jenna Ortega‘s character was very well acted, it didn’t feel like she was playing Wednesday or a different role before it! And Winona Ryder didn’t skip a beat! Just wish she was a bit more gothic. What is cool she grew out of it, but still have some remnants of her old character.

[@cameleyez]

10/10? You must be high af.

[@KamiAnimeS1]

@@cameleyez nope that’s what I believe

[@amazon2.022]

It's nice when everybody talks a bit more equally time-wise and got to finish their whole point, it makes the show better having different opinions explained is amazing

[@waynejr.5579]

Beetlejuice part had me dying laughing 1988 version had stick pulling gina davis skirt up😂😂

[@buckfidencoincidencetheori7200]

The way he says what?!?! Like he wasn’t being a creep was the cherry on top

[@JohnnyNada]

(spoilerish) This was fire tho keaton and Dafoe were awesome, so were Winona ryder and the mom and Justin Theroux. It was really really good. Shouts out to babyjuice...

[@boomstickcritique902]

I'm not sure Korey and Martin have enjoyed much of Burtons stuff. There normally part of the camp that sees him as style over substance. The original Beetlejuice is loved today but upon release it got mixed critical reception with some critics calling it style over substance just like there doing with this sequel. With that said Beetlejuice 2 has about the same critical score as the first on Rotten Tomatoes both films are rated by critics around the exact same scores and nearly similar reactions from critics with some saying it was fun while others accusing it of style over substance it's the same type of reactions the OG got. Both movies got have overall positive critical receptions though. The audience score for both films are also high. The OG Beetlejuice had a basic story itself it was Burtons imagination that made the movie work and how interesting the world he created was.

[@stevenrobinsonmovies]

⁠​⁠@@boomstickcritique902To add to your point. Martin & Korey both praised Burton for his films that they enjoyed. Example “Beetlejuice 1” and “Pee Wee’s Big Adventure”. I think their opinions similar to mainstream critics is when his films lack story and focuses more on aesthetics and visuals. I do think Burton is a great director but he’s had a lot of misses for sure. His films are more popular with audiences because of the goth aesthetic being super popular in film at a certain point. However, in recent years even audiences have disliked a lot of Burton’s more recent projects. Also with him not wanting to cast black people in his films has made him unpopular with Gen-Z with the exception of Wednesday where Netflix forced production to cast a Latina and to have a diverse cast because originally Tim wanted an all white cast. Burton is one of my favorite directors but I do think he focuses more on aesthetics than story. He reminds me of director Sam Levinson who created “Euphoria” & “The Idol” where critics based Euphoria’s second season and Levinson’s other projects for focusing more on aesthetics and visuals than good storytelling. To a point where his newer work has flopped and to go back to Burton even his recent films have flopped financially as well. I think we live in a time where storytelling isn’t important to many film fans anymore because people fall in love with aesthetics and visuals. I think this explains a lot with film critics being harsh on certain projects because storytelling isn’t as important to many audiences nowadays. Sometimes all you need is a good visual, an attractive person, a big name, etc. it’s very complex. Sorry to ramble on but hopefully I’ve made my points clear.

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@stevenrobinsonmovies There praise of Big Adventure and the first Beetlejuice I think is more do to when those films came out. When those 2 came out Burton was new at the time and his style was fresh. If you go back and watch those 2 movies the stories are just as thin and basic as most of Burtons movies in general. I think it's simply the fact given he only had 2 flicks out at the time his style was more fresh for them and felt more new. But Burton in general has never been a strong story teller his movies have always centered more around the gothic fantasy and or just fantastical worlds that he creates. I think it's simply a case that they ask more from Burton now then they did then because he's made many movies at this point so his style doesn't feel as unique to them or as fresh because he simply has more movies with that exact same style at this point.

[@boomstickcritique902]

@@stevenrobinsonmovies As far as Burton not wanting to cast black people I honestly don't think anyone in Gen Z cares or even legit thinks about it to be honest. Burton makes gothic themed fantasy flicks most of the time so inherently he's going to mostly cast pale white looking actors mostly. I really don't think anyone cares if Burton casts a black actor just for the sake of having a black actor in his movie and if they do care I really only think it's a very small section of people in general.

[@MalikDAKing]

This movie was meh at best!!! I think the main antagonist should’ve just focused on Astrid’s love interest… Beetlejuice’s wife did nothing special in this movie!!!! She wasn’t even compelling! Them singing DAY-O at the father’s funeral felt like a member-berry!!! My only positive was Michael Keaton still nails it at the character!! But everything else wasn’t compelling

[@TheOneBeyondEternal]

The shrunken heads were also in the animated series.

[@ArtofLunatik]

were they?i dont remember

[@politefan8141]

Beetlegeuse and Lydia teaming up, even for just a little bit, reminded me of the series too. They hardly interact in the original. *Spoilers* I even thought that Lydia would get out of her contract by helping Beetlegeuse destroy the soul sucker instead of what they went with here.

[@GantzIsSloppy]

just one shrunken head he was the Mayors aid

[@allister-malister9179]

Only one but he didn’t really look like it, he kinda looked like a muppet.

[@christopherrichards2350]

I definitely want to check out Beetlejuice Beetlejuice

[@TreyMcDonaldAnimator]

I mean like 76%/86% on Rotten Tomatoes, it might be appealing to either the old audience in a certain way or a new audience embracing Tim Burton's true vision. Hard to say. I might go see it solely out of curiosity.

[@leonzaduncan2438]

I was about to say Martin is totally about critically it's doing pretty well.

[@politefan8141]

I disagree with Julian. I think he'll end up preferring this to the original. With a series like this, people will prefer whichever movie they see first.

[@tomlewis4205]

It was fun... It's got problems for sure but after watching the original the other day to refresh my memory; I really enjoyed it, maybe more.

[@imperiumdiaboli]

Hey, Jim Brown was in Mars Attacks! ... dressed like an Egyptian 😂

[@starkraven1148]

Pam Grier was also in it, Billy Dee Williams was Harvey Dent in the 89 Batman as well.

[@Planag7]

Heavy weight champion of the world

[@ermacarr6617]

As he shoulda been. Apropos

[@liamhiggins7955]

People are exaggerating a bit when they say there aren't any black people in Tim's movies; between them and Billy Dee in Batman '89 there's, as memory serves, the sheriff from Edward Scissorhands, Michael Clarke Duncan in Planet of the Apes (even if it's sadly as an ape), The candy store owner in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (the one who Charlie gets the ticket from), Samuel L. Jackson in Miss Peregrine, the strongman in Dumbo as well as the two main kids who are half black, and the mean girl, one of the male bullies, and that bullies Dad in Wednesday. Besides those examples, and the odd extra here and there, it's not much though (and again one of them is playing a literal ape. Also kinda weird how a lot of these examples are antagonists).

[@COSun25]

​@@liamhiggins7955 The rival/bully in 'Wednesday' is beautiful. The character's name is Bianca.

[@djhellerusa]

Korey, you put into words my thoughts exactly about this film. I thought it was a fun watch, but I left feeling unsatisfied and like it was missing something. Even aside from the repeat jokes from the first film, there should have been more development or focus on one or fewer storylines like you said. I also wonder if, at first, William Dafoe's character was meant to be similar to that of Sylvia Sidney's character Juno from the first one. She was so cool and disturbing at the same time as she smoked and it billowing out of the slit in her neck. I just didnt get that feel from this one. While there were interesting and creepy elements in this one, it just didnt have the heart, and cohesiveness, as you mentioned.

[@JohnnyNada]

I wish there was a Beetlejuice from Howard Stern cameo

[@viewmaster617]

I was hoping they was going to do that in this sequel its a shame they didn't.

[@COSun25]

It's unnecessary. I wish that there were callbacks to the Beetlejuice musical in this film instead.

[@TheEnmity]

This movie should’ve focused on the -Deets funeral, -Astrid and the new boyfriend and her daddy issues -Betelgeuse being called to help bring her back -building Lydia being manic and a push over (she ended the last movie being completely cool with her ghost seeing abilities and they took that away for some reason) and discovering her relationship issues to finally have her actually confront her trauma and getting her to overcome her anxiety and reconnect with her daughter. THEN they could’ve ended the film with the janitor cameo and introduce the soul sucker, that felt like a stinger but would’ve played great as a setup for a third movie right before the credits. Defoe could’ve been introduced here and brought back for the third

[@stevecatanio8532]

When I was a kid I hated cartoons because I "always wanted to be grown up and watch grown up movies" but they grew on me later. Ironic. 😂

[@fightrudyfight5799]

I loved the Beetlejuice cartoon. I have Beetlejuice’s face from the cartoons opening shot on my wrist. It was so good and it’s free to watch on Tubi!

[@alcottdevalte7440]

Keaton should be given a Golden Globe and an Academy award for his performance as Beetlejuice.

[@TheBackOfTheClassroom]

Strange, because I watched the cartoon as a kid and never saw the original movie. Didn't know people don't remember there was a cartoon.

[@anitahargreaves9526]

Never knew there was a cartoon?

[@AuthorJanaeMarie]

I use to watch the cartoon but I’ve never seen the original either. I was too young for the original film.

[@anitahargreaves9526]

@AuthorJanaeMarie Coincidently BeetleJuice on this afternoon in UK. Haven't seen in donkey years!

[@GantzIsSloppy]

The cartoon was more popular than the movie

[@skyofthelivingdead]

2:13 the original Beetlejuice came out in 1988

[@commandZee]

With all the great characters and ideas, instead of awkwardly stringing them together, it sounds like it should have been an anthology of shorts in the Beetlejuice universe. Like a Beetlejuice version of _Creep Show_ or _Tales From the Crypt._

[@yahmicah4294]

This movie had me giggling at a screaming skeleton. I like to consider my taste of humor refined. But I laughed at a screaming skeleton so.. this movie charmed me somehow.

[@justinprovideo333]

Tim Burton is the OG Pete Davidson. How does he land these beautiful women? Lisa Marie, Helena Bonham Carter, Ava Green, and now Monica Bellucci

[@hothotheat3000]

Must be great in bed, and he gets them work.

[@tmmartinesq.6216]

Hidden talents.

[@Maverick.D.]

Its that 'tism rizz.

[@MrTambourineMan.]

I think they had to still include Lydia’s dad in the claymation form because this is a story about his house being a portal to the afterlife. Half the characters are dead. He would definitely still be around

[@alonzabrown5345]

I agree the movie had a lot coming out of nowhere. However, I'd like to weigh in on the Beetlejuice's job. In the first movie, the dead couple attempted to hire Beetlejuice to scare away the new owners. Beetlejuice is doing the exact same job in the sequel. You can tell my the background voices on the phone asking him why he hasn't finished getting rid of someone the customer paid to be haunted. The pest control flyer Jenna Ortega's character found pointed to his job as well.

[@AntiFaGoat]

How the heck did Juno (the Maitland's Case Manager) allow him to keep up the "Freelance Bio Exorcist" gig all this time?!

[@alonzabrown5345]

@@AntiFaGoat don't have the answer to that one.

[@mrcritical6751]

@@AntiFaGoatseems like they took his talents and made it an official position to keep him out of trouble

[@RobertQuant]

@@AntiFaGoatSylvia Sidney is Juno the caseworker

[@COSun25]

​@antifagoat6591 If it was like the Broadway musical, they're probably mother and son.

[@MrMdarnell09]

Damn. I wasn't ready for a upload before work wuuuut

[@blackmagician7645]

The Beetlejuice Musical is a sleeper hit. It really should have a its own film production.

[@purvismccray1608]

I agree with Julian, I was never bored with the movie or thinking I wish this was over sooner. But also too many half baked storylines and characters. Nothing is fully realized in a satisfying way. I did have fun but could have been a much better film with more focus on a fewer plot points.

[@Choppacity80491]

Bob had my crying laughing in this movie 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@woodyhitya]

I was wracking my brain thinking of who Arthur Conti plays in House of the Dragon, turns out he played the Queen’s Page for one episode, I’m pretty sure that role is closer to an extra than a speaking role

[@bustedmusketproductions357]

Catherine o hara was the best character in this movie

[@cameleyez]

And that is a problem. 😂

[@planguy9575]

In defense of Beetlejuice in regards to him wanting to marry Lydia in the first movie it isn't really implied that he lusts after her like he does with the other women he harasses. The marriage is more about getting him unrestricted access to the living world. Still really scummy to marry a teenager even for that reason, of course.

[@Ravuun]

I saw the first movie when I was 12 in the theater and I adored it. This movie had WAY too much going on, some of the acting was questionable, and as my husband says "there's a great movie, a good movie, and two bad movies all squished together". I wish they had spent more time on Lydia being a paranormal investigator on a TV show, I found that delightful.

[@deedeetee17]

They should have done a story where after Lydia went to College Charles had exorcised Adam and Barbara sending them to the lost souls room. Lydia has been mad at him for 30 years and become a medium to try to find them but all ghosts won’t help her because of the problems the Maitlands created in the first movie letting Otto take the book. So the movie plays the same, Charles dies and story goes the same. Lydia desperate to find Adam and Barbaba now that her dad if gone. Astrid has the strained relationship with Lydia because she has spent her whole life talking about these people (Maitlands) and she’s over it. Astrid still meets the boy that is dead and when she discovers he is dead she finds his book. He breaks the rules and lets her have it and Astrid discovers that in the book you can do a spell in the afterlife on Halloween where you can release the spirits in the lost souls room with a spell that swaps other souls in their place. Movie plays the same but this time Delores tells Beetlejuice that he must marry her immediately or she will suck all the souls including his and Lydia, etc. as Delores is about to take Mary Beetlejuice, Astrid could have read the spell pretending she is marrying them and the spell puts Delores and all the souls she sucked into the lost souls room and that releases Barbara and Adam. They could have done where they are in bright light and pure energy and they must get in the soul train quickly to go to the afterlife. They could have had a scene where several ghosts in the room are reunited with their loved ones and it could have been emotional. We get to say goodbye to Adam, Barbara, Charles and Delia. This fixes Astrid and Lydia’s relationship leading to a satisfying ending.

[@47Cartoonguy]

No joke I remember watching the cartoon rerun on Cartoon Network in the late 90s and I saw it before the movie. I loved it the Beetlejuice cartoon walked so Billy and Mandy could run

[@RayCharound]

there's no way jeffrey jones didnt get paid for this movie. his likeness is all over it. if they did pay him and use his likeness, what's the point of not having him in the movie?

[@Edgaralexi]

Cause he’s a registered sex offender

[@nichescenes]

It’s pretty obvious if they put them in the movie, people would get mad about it, but they still wanted him in the film.

[@RayCharound]

@@nichescenes my point is he's in the movie. he most likely got paid and you see his face on the headstone or as animation every ten minutes. so what's the point of not having him in the movie (for that reason) if you're basically gonna put him in the movie anyway?

[@Planag7]

I think technically you can get away with making a reference to somebody as long as you don’t fool on, refer to the character more so than like a glancing picture or anything I remember that was basically the argument why they were able to put Hartman’s picture in the last season of news radio, and every episode because it didn’t cost them anything, but it was a reminder to the other Costars to remember him

[@nichescenes]

@@Planag7 oh so like community tv show final season and that dude who left lol.

[@rober_toons]

If I abstract myself from the fact that it is 30 years late and the actors look so much older I think this is a half decent sequel that I would have consider acceptable back in the day, like Ghostbusters 2, but a little worse. At least it is more a sequel than a reboot/requel and the only scene that really fails at doing the same thing is the long musical number at the end. The big problem of the movie is there are too many stories and everything involving Beetlejuice's problems in the afterlife, with Monica Bellucci, Willem Dafoe and even the Bobs characters, have no relation at all with the story of Lydia and her family. But ultimately the three women in the Deetz family is what kind of saves of the movie. I thought they were likable and , in the case of Catherine O'Hara, she was probably funnier than even Beetlejuice. I personally think they should have cut all the Monicca Bellucci and Willem Dafoe stuff, not because it was bad, but because it is irrelevant in this story. That way they could have made room for the other elements. Sometimes the movie feels extremely fast paced and it detracts me for enjoying the best parts, like the flashback about Jeffrey Jones character.

[@missourigreen051]

The first movie did not come out in 1986 it came out in 1988. Based on Korey's birthday he is right on how he was 16 when Beetlejuice came out in April 1988, but a lot of people mistaken Beetlejuice as an early 90's movie, Korey is the first person who thought the movie is older then it actually is and he actually seen it when it first came out, he is like that girl from youtube who thought Home Alone 2 came out in 2002. And he already forgot who Jenna Ortega is?? The irony is Kory is saying the sequel seems like it lacks or not being prepared before filming, but that is what Korey is like in every video where it somehow is hard for him to do simple basic internet research before he talks about a topic.

[@brettclose7505]

17:41 That part was taken directly from Black Sunday by Mario Bava. So even THAT was "nostaliga"! Just a very weird version of it

[@dereksmith6033]

Just watched the Movie & i really enjoyed it,,,,,MICHAEL KEATON still has it at 73 years old & seeing WILEM DAFOE in a TIM BURTON Movie is an added Bonus & JENNA ORTEGA was Great as usual of course,,,,,i guess i mostly enjoyed the Movie for the Visual aspect of it which is to be expected in a TIM BURTON Movie!!!!

[@sonicjrjr14]

Is Julian ever prepared for these reviews? Why would you give input on a sequel without seeing the previous film?

[@chrisaiken2697]

How does Tim Burton pull all these babes? It can't just be because he's rich or whatever since they do fine on their own.

[@ashiihideeshchiinii6158]

To get cast in Tim Burton movies.

[@CHRISMED2]

Some women are attracted to ugly guys, I guess it makes them feel naughty or something

[@cmdrjanjalani]

Fun movie but the payoff with BJ's ex-wife was the worst. Like seriously, that's it? It's like they just filmed scenes with Monica Belucci being intimidating and forgot that they had to write any closure to her. I liked how they worked around keeping the Charlie Deetz character though without needing to recast a sex offender. It was impressive they didn't just kill him off and that's it.

[@GantzIsSloppy]

Monica Belucci always has short screentime she's just eye candy she's not that good at acting

[@DetroitAlan01]

This sequel has been in development hell since the early 90’s. Willing to bet much of its problems are a direct result of that. As the story and premise changed (at one point this was to be set in Hawaii), all these disparate ideas, which should’ve been cut, were kept. Yet, there was no overlying reason for them to be present. So the movie’s like a buffet table of half realized concepts that are all vying for the spotlight. Like Martin said, the worst part of this is that it doesn’t feel necessary.

[@sombersojourner5825]

They put Michael Keaton back in his role as Beetlejuice. He's finally ancient enough for the role so they could save on makeup.

[@soulrebel6309]

He looks pretty young for his age tho, he's 71 but looks way younger

[@krisj827]

Keaton is pretty fit for 73

[@fruttlicious]

You guys are right how the film feels like there’s too much. When I watched it last night, I enjoyed it. I thought it was funny and it was entertaining, but I did felt there was a little bit too much to it or at least comedy wise for example Lydia‘s mother, she plays the struggling artist and she is a funny character in the last film. But in the latest movie she was being to much. The movie was a mix bag of everything. I did love the parts where Beetlejuice explains his backstory in an Italian film. To me that says Beetlejuice. But what didn’t like about it felt early plus only told it to his co worker. Also, when I got home I thought over the soul train scene. I think there’s an inside joke saying disco dead. That hit me hard laughing. All in all it is definitely worth watching. I am hoping a third one is gonna be in the works, but I have heard they were going to make a third film after they announce the sequel.

[@nikawharton7056]

I disargree with Martin. I think Tim Burton did his best to screw over Jeffrey Jones' character Charles. Getting eaten alive is a helluva way to go. Just look at the events before and up to how he died... I think he WAS slapping Jeffrey Jones in the face the way he did Charles.

[@Yava-n9c]

Not sure what was going on @ 40:18 with Martin. But that squawk had me lmao 😂

[@92kris]

😂🤣🤣🤣

[@AntiFaGoat]

Because he's repeating what Corey said, so he's like a parrot.

[@bosslevelcarter]

​@antifagoat6591 Nah Julian is the parrot

[@leachjason111]

I loved the movie.Im ok with being entertained as main goal. Im ok with not every character, subplot having a full embellished purpose or type of closure. Some characters to me just looked cool..like some people chilling in the afterlife..I looked at cop character as being funny..cool idea..cool effects..He had to track down Beetlejuice...go into real world and then come back for the Mom and take her back to afterlife..Beetlejuice speaking Italian was cool/funny to me...Demons can speak in different languages so it makes sense..The director said he likes old Italian dubbes horror movies...so him being influenced and inserting that also makes sense to me. Soul Train was clever to me(another show from the past which influenced director)if he had the Sould Train but didnt have a lot of black people in it...People could use that and complain..(hey we did have a Soul Plane movie) Burton is known for having strange ellaborate musical numbers in his movies..like in Batman ..anywho i was happy to be back in that world. .reflect back to 1988ish.. People like to go back to that time. Even if taste..or in a movie... Enjoying the podcast..keep up the good work...peace🤙

[@COSun25]

Beetlejuice was definitely taking over for Juno in making sure that the dead would move on to the Great Beyond (or not) in this sequel.

[@jordanwhite352]

Even though this would have been obvious, I would have absolutely loved if the gag would have been that when we first see Beetlejuice. He's finally called up in line with his long ass number. Like I know he tried to swap it but I think it'd be funny if It's implied that he kept trying to swap it and it didn't work until the reason we haven't seen anything from him is cuz he literally been waiting that long. That would have been amazing.

[@biguy617]

I loved seeing Willem Dafoe in the movie.

[@daviddemeuse5660]

I enjoyed it, I can understand what you’re saying about missed opportunities because I said the same thing, I think if they focused on Astrid and her boy interest it could’ve been a more focused film.

[@mrcritical6751]

Agreed, he should’ve been the main antagonist, save Delores for a sequel

[@RobertQuant]

Noo it wouldn’t work the focus is beetlejuice or Lydia it would of been a weird movie

[@mrcritical6751]

@@RobertQuant they could have easily still focused it on Beetlejuice and Lydia, just have the relationship between Astrid and the ghost boy mirror Lydia’s and Beetlejuice’s as well as he relationship with Rory

[@daviddemeuse5660]

When you think about it Astrid didn’t believe in ghosts and had a struggling relationship with Lydia who was haunted by beetlejuice and pressured into getting married while she didn’t want to, Astrid than gets interested in the boy who definitely should have been the main plot and got the most screen time. However they did a decent job with everything going on and keeping it a hr 40 minutes. Delores needed more screen time, overall it was a fun ride with missed opportunities, Michael Keaton was electric.

[@RobertQuant]

@@daviddemeuse5660 Michael Keaton is a legend actor beetlejuice was his best roles along with Batman he knows the character so well

[@smb879]

On the subject of the lack of diversity in Tim Burton films, I've noticed that when it was pointed out a little while ago. (I'm actually tired of seeing the same actors in his movies all the time) Anyway, I do have one notable character in one of his films that always stood out to me. The police officer in Edward Scissor hands. That character was the only one in the film truly lucid to Edwards situation. I'm trying to think if there were any other non-Caucasian actors at all in that film. I might not have much room to say this, as a white person, but it makes me think it puts emphasis as an empathetic outsider on the officer. This most likely was not done intentionally by Tim Burton. However, learning about his casting, and about the themes in that movie, I personally think it connected his empathetic tone towards Edward. While everyone else is in selfish lala land.

[@Native174]

The villians were wasted characters you could remove them and it would be have changed anything

[@ericsilva-gomez2481]

One of them yes, but not the boy. The boy played into a good twist and part of the overarching plot of the movie

[@Native174]

@@ericsilva-gomez2481 the twist I enjoyed but then they wrapped his character up so fast just as they did with the female character and for me it ended up being just wasted characters

[@boomstickcritique902]

So like nearly every MCU movie lol.

[@Native174]

@@boomstickcritique902 basically lol 😂

[@nilesengerman8263]

You all should go back and watch how they die in the original. It's a joke...look at the distance between the bridge and the water when the car falls off

[@rickyclover9393]

But the Maitlands death was played like a straight up accident, not a silly Italian film film homage like in Beetlejuice origin.

[@wstine79]

It's a shame we never got to see Beetlejuice in Hawaii.

[@CosmicSpaceBaby]

No it isn’t 🤣🤣🤣

[@el-kiote]

They still need a plot for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. You never know.

[@rodneyeskew8629]

This movie ain't better than the first one but it's good. I liked it and will be added this to my collection.

[@ShinyJesus98-STICK-AROUND]

Fun fact for anyone who might not know the tree getting kicked down scene in the first movie was actually improvised because the tree wasn’t supposed to be knocked down but since it fell “hey nice fucking model!” Was improvised 😂

[@Guernicaman]

With so many characters, storyline & plot points, the movie feels like maybe should've been a modernTV series on streaming. This way, it doesn't feel as unfocused. As a sequel, maybe it was 30 years too late.

[@fantasticmrfox81]

I really enjoyed it but it felt rushed to me. Too many stories/characters are wrapped up without much development. I wonder if there is an extended cut somewhere with some of those elements fleshed out. Still, it was brilliant to see Keaton back as Beetlejuice and Catherine O'Hara was great as always.

[@sunitamosesesq]

Justice for BOB!!

[@MRLUTHOOOR]

Movie did great. People gon hate

[@MusicalSeizureGuy]

I’m a huge fan most my life of Beetlejuice original. Hearing F-Bomb in PG movie at age 7 was awesome and I would do scenes from the movie to my friends at recess 😅

[@wstine79]

Corey! Corey!! COREY!!!

[@nichescenes]

Corey just appeared in my room and fixed my GameCube what’s going on?

[@Danjoker.]

Korey

[@nichescenes]

@@Danjoker. Korey is the good version. We summoned his nasty ghost version. He’s way meaner and keeps telling me how doubletoasted is sponsered by….but the sponsor ad never ends.

[@cafeterialoca]

I haven't seen this movie, but this song they are mentioning for the ending, that is a "long song" and they "play the entire thing" and it's "Overplayed", I'm going out on a limb to say it's "Bohemian Rhapsody"

[@gcolbyp]

I just got back from Beetlejuice Beetlejuice and I definitely liked it more than you and Martin did though I agree that the story is all over the place and could’ve trim some subplots out. But I guess I’m more with Julian where I still did had a good time due to the cast, wackiness and it not taking itself entirely seriously. And after watching this review, I was worried it was another legacy sequel that nostalgia baits and while there’s some callbacks to the original, it wasn’t like in your face about it like others of its kind and it wasn’t a complete repeat of the first, so I didn’t get that vibe at all. Despite its flaws, I had a fun enough time but I get when it comes to franchises, especially legacy sequels relying on nostalgia and some of them have been lackluster, it can wane on you.

[@richardmark9161]

Even if they only have Jeffrey Jones in the film appearing in photographs, the actor still gets paid.

[@el-kiote]

Also that claymation scene

[@andrewgrove1691]

​@@el-kioteI thought that was bizarre but funny

[@artcast007]

I like Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, but I think where it falters is that they had way too many plots goin on at one time. The original had the main storyline where the Maitlands jus wanted to run out the Deetz family out of there home. I felt like if this film jus stuck to 2 main plotpoints 1. Dolores coming after Beetlejuice 2. Astrid's storyline with her ghost bf and that they concentrated on those 2 plots the movie wouldve turned out a whole lot better

[@Mike_416]

Just came out of the theater and I loved it.

[@williamlambert]

1988 is when Beetlejuice came out

[@user-dr2yz8um3d]

@21:31 😂😂😂😂 A literal thing from the 1970s got into this movie Finally saw the movie at my regal in IMAX! They gave us gummi worm snacks in little cups as treats Felt pretty short but a worthy sequel to the older one Great to see Michael Keaton and Wynona Ryder easily slip back into their respective roles I love how they explore more of the afterlife and this feels like a true return to Tim Burton’s cockamamie weirdness I did appreciate the usage of many practical effects, makeup, set design, and the visual gags for the deceased, they really go all the way Much of the humor still works and the chemistry between Ryder and Jenna Ortega as mother and daughter serves as a good mirror image of two generations dealing with death It’s hilarious too how much the filmmakers don’t like Jeffery Jones’s character considering the real actor’s career took a huge nosedive Glad Danny Elfman did the score again and there’s a hilarious dance sequence near the end Lots of stuff in this that feels reminiscent of the 90s cartoon It’s a shame though the story this time feels very unfocused and a mishmash of several other plot lines going on, they drop one subplot entirely since they all feel cluttered Some of the motivations are shaky too by certain characters And it’s a shame that Monica Bellucci is barely in the movie despite her being a huge tie to Beetlejuice’s past Death, mortality, and aging are still the prevalent themes this movie covers even generations apart Confronting the unknown and conquering your fears….nothing is harder Its refreshing Burton gets back to his macabre sense of humor and visual style after so many slumps in his filmmaking overture I found it funny too it ends on a hilarious punchline It’s all about going for the ride and having a good time Who knows if there’s gonna be a part 3?

[@leeweber85]

I still loved it! There definitely were a lot of areas that could have been developed more… could have borrowed time from the excessively long wedding dance scene. As for the costumes/makeup, it seemed apparent to me they were highlighting certain elements to sell merchandise/costumes. Beetlejuice IP / merch has exploded the last few years… Next year spirit Halloween will be selling all those new characters costumes and evil Beetlejuice baby dolls.

[@WillisWheeler]

I went into the movie knowing that , that plot be damn with this from the jump . We had a good time watching it.

[@FestArc]

There were three subplots all fighting to be the main plot. You had the Beetlejuice and Soulsucker plot. You had the Lidia and her manager plot. And you had Jenna Ortega and the boy she liked plot. At least one of those had to be removed. Personally, I would have plucked the manager out because it was the one I cared the least about.

[@JonTalksEverythingPodcast]

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice was a very good movie and i enjoy it very much and Jenna Ortega was great and its a fun and entertaining movie

[@TheJumpinJr]

spoilers for ratings Julian - Matinee (Low) Korey - Rental Martin - Rental

[@el-kiote]

Funny i just came from the matinee, Julian's right.

[@tiphanieseantay958]

16:18 the reason why this movie shouldn't have been made or was made too late

[@christophergarrett7082]

The script is saved by the actors having fun. This script felt like every idea the writers had thrown together without an narrative throughline

[@VidWatcher01]

20:30 I would say more the Corpse Bride as opposed to Sally

[@marcushamner5994]

Beetlejuice came out in 1988. It was a year before Michael Keaton did Batman in 1989. Michael Keaton and Tim Burton are best friends just like Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell. At 5:23 I love Beetlejuice the animated series! Alyson Court, who voiced Jubilee in X-Men 92 voiced Lydia Deetz.🤓😊👊🏾🤍🙌🏾

[@midnightnavigator]

16:00 Beetlejuice had a job in the 1st movie too. He was an assistant to a caseworker, then went off to be an independent freelace exorcist. So, him being in a job again makes sense if he had to go through the dying process again and he was working back in the system. It seemed like he dealt in the same field of tormenting the living for the dead based on a small bit of dialog when a client was upset his wife got remarried so fast.

[@RobertQuant]

Yes Juno the caseworker explains beetlejuice what type of person he is to the maitlands and Juno said beetlejuice was her assistant

[@RobertQuant]

Rest in peace 🪦 Juno 🥲🥲🥲😭😭😢 Sylvia Sidney

[@CinemaMack]

I went in expecting the worse, but I actually ended up enjoying it. Worth a matinee.

[@JohnnysChingaderas]

I didnt know beetlejuice was Italian 😂😂😂😂 my wife and i were laughing so hard abotu the soul train, when that part came on we were like really?? That lazy yall had to write this pun 😂😂😂

[@allys744]

I loved the sequel! Ofc it doesn’t hold a candle to the OG, but it’s not bad at all. The plot here is way too thick and there are at least two characters who almost serve no purpose at all. I’m glad they did a backstory on Beetlejuice, but what was the point if they don’t do anything with Dolores or Frank the film star?