Before Moving to Spain A Place in the Sun WARNING

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

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[@essexbirdpresentermichelle8983]

I have lived on the Costa del Sol for 16 years and I've never seen anything like that here. Bins are emptied every day. I wouldn't trade my life in the sun

[@terrybogart589]

I agree. Lived.in Fuengirola.years ago, and just back in May from a few.mths.there. They've improved the paseo. Its .gorgeous.

[@jasonsweb1]

just as bad in areas of UK

[@UnderwaterJohn-fn7jg]

Yea but if you live in the uk you don't pay to go.

[@karee435]

I’ve seen people pull stuff out of the bins looking for things to sell , then just leaving what they don’t want at the side of the bins and not putting it back inside

[@delheightley6475]

It would be good for you to forward your video to the Orihuela council. It truly is a disgraceful state 😢

[@rhianhead6744]

What a great idea!

[@Pazymaspaz]

@@delheightley6475 I doubt it would make any difference tbh!

[@josegarciapujante9586]

Stay in your country then

[@griffinzoo1]

You can keep spain. We're off to Thailand. £1 a meal, 49p a ltr diesel. Amazing roads. Clean as a whistle. Friendliest people on earth.

[@sarahcronshaw3088]

I love it when the presenters say things like -would you bring your family here’? -they could be on a park or a bird sanctuary. turn the camera around and see like your pointing out rubbish or a main rd etc. I still watch the programme though.

[@BaldyCox]

Compared to London,Birmingham and Manchester etc it’s paradise

[@weedog6232]

Have you been back to the UK recently? Looks similar to this in a lot of areas

[@CarlosAlberto-ii1li]

It is because lazy Brits have let it get that way, they neglected the country the same way as they have their children.

[@oliverbold9724]

In Spain there are NO SERVICES MY DEAR FRIEND!

[@PuntaPrimaIainD]

Barry I would say the blame is 50% Orihuela Costa but hopefully the new Council will get their act together. 40% is due to cowboy builders and 10% from the illegal tourist lets. In Punta Prima there are a few full time residents who do try and take care of the area. From Calle Escorpiones down to the Nautilus to the North is Torrevieja Council and to the South is Orihuela Costa and the difference is stark but they have made a start on some of the worst areas. The balancing factor is cost, the annual bill for the equivalent of UK Council Tax was 321 euros for a 2 bed Townhouse which is less than we pay a month back in Scotland albeit for a larger property. Hopefully with all the new developments and the influx of owners there will be more money for the services such as the bins. They have even started to sweep the streets regularly but I do wish we had a Motocaca like Torrevieja

[@CarlosAlberto-ii1li]

I have 3 fincas but l pay a road charge of 8 euros a year for one, it is for the village council to send a grader once a year, it is not necessary and some years they do not do it, the road is always good, my other 2 fincas are not council roadways but all land owners drag the bladed roller when they pass. I do not have rubbish collection but my waste is very little so when I go to the village I put it in a bin, I do not need pay but as am a resident I pay 60 euros a year, I also can get free water and free drinking water too when I go to the town and have all government services at my disposal. Spain is a beautiful country and a nice place to live, if the channel owner thought different he would not be here.

[@rmil4531]

I am really enjoying your content Barry. It’s great to see the two sides of the coin. It’s certainly not a good look. Thank you.

[@davidwatts968]

Such a good video Barry. So common in so many areas of Spain together with the graffiti as you say 2024 it shouldn’t be like this. Such a shame, but the people who fly típ never get prosecuted. It’s shameful really

[@andrewmeasures2312]

Interesting video Barry. Such a shame to see such neglect. No doubt the town hall officials are too busy enjoying their three hour lunches and driving their new Mercedes.

[@iantobanter9546]

It'd be interesting to do a comparison with Orihuela town where all the taxes end up. Pilar de la Horedada saw the light and set up independent some years ago and looks a lot better with new facilities as a consequence.

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

@iantobanter9546 look out for that tomorrow.

[@angelasyder9957]

It’s a wonderful place to live and holiday in except for the Orihuela council not keeping up with the rubbish or cleaning the streets. When am there I always clean and weed out the front of the house. Orihuela are a disgrace go to the town spotless no weeds growing on the roads or rubbish

[@CarlyLamour]

Thanks for this video defo good to see all the different sides and views of the areas good bad and ok bits 👏🏼

[@SouthWestCarpHunter]

I have a property in fondon in the Almería province and bins here are emptied daily and our council tax is a 1/5th of the uks!

[@rhianhead6744]

Thanks for the informative video - good to have a reality check. Orihuela Costa is sometimes a bit of a sprawl, with one urb merging into another, so was difficult to identify some of the areas you visited. The council do have a dreadful reputation for provision of services. Where we have an apartment, ( Villamartin Plaza area) owners have organised cleanup groups, litter picks etc and it has certainly helped. We shouldn’t have to do it though.

[@tomm5228]

2 days a month in arboleas you can put bulky items out beds etc beside bins we pay €157 a year

[@jerzywoking1699]

In Crevillente you can take bulky things, rubble and garden debris to the eco parque for free.

[@JamesCampbell-o6u]

Good evening from Falkirk, Great video Barry, good to see someone highlighting this problem some people show no respect in regard to where they dump rubbish. i have witnessed this first hand seems to be out off site out off mind

[@MrWillu69]

Thanks for making this video Barry. Yes Orihuela council are at best inept, just look at the chiringuito fiasco for example and the difference in cleanliness between the Costas and the city are night and day. But what they can’t be held responsible for is the general attitude of the public. The fly tipping by builders( sorry cowboys) is a disgrace. But just as bad are the homeowners who think it’s acceptable to dump beds, mattresses sofas, you name it next to the basuras. I for one have cleaned the area around our basuras of other people waste as I ‘m proud of our street and feel massively lucky to own a home in Spain. I live just by the park you walked through and our urb president was instrumental in getting it looking great again. There are some amazing people who are really passionate about our area( Wombles of Valencias) for example who go out picking up rubbish in their own time. But unfortunately we are outnumbered by selfish, lazy people with no pride.

[@flitsies]

That seems to me to be more about the people who live there than the council, yes the council should remove the weeds, but that rubbish looked like stuff from peoples own homes, empty tv boxes rubble from renovation and so on. Some people no matter where they go will trash a place. Perhaps there needs to be a neighbour hood watch group to tackle the rubbish dumpers.

[@JamieW-o7b]

Paradise is almost always somewhere else, no matter how hard you search!

[@mickymack1230]

I fear it is the same everywhere, we live in such a fragmented and throw away society.Also a lot of it looks like fly tipping as many councils, in order to meet EU wide recycling requirements, have excessive charges for rubbish disposal which is an extra cost to builders who are unwilling to pay for it.I am sure those whose properties are being built of convcerted turn a blind eye as their builders drives off with a cart load of rubble. I am reminded of the old gag I heard in london about two guys in the pub: One man says to the other, " f'ing council they're useless, you know, I went to the toilet on Monday and its thursday already and no one has come round to flush it " Its really about education. Maybe you should organize a community clean up day;) As for the vegetation I am always amazed how things in that climate grow so fast!

[@barrygentry5364]

I live in Entre Naranjos, also known as Vistabella Golf in recent years, which is part of Orihuela Costa. Our roads can be similar to these, although I do see council workers from time to time and a road sweeper lorry comes around irregularly, but can’t do much as everyone parks on the road and not in their gardens. We don’t have enough recycle bins, which leads to inconsiderate home owners dumping empty packaging alongside the bins, without even having the decency to break down the boxes and put the pieces in the largest box to contain their mess. The waste collecting teams will not pick up waste from the ground, and nor should they need to. I collect my recyclable waste and if it won’t fit in our bins I will drive to another area where there are bins and use them. Not sure if the problem will ever resolve itself in my lifetime. The entrance to the Urb is cared for by the golf course, so generally presents well.

[@RaymondKilloh-hj4ki]

That’s one of the reasons we bought on a golf resort

[@johnjonisa5022]

It's like this in the UK ITS A REAL SHITE HOLE

[@alexnimmo1619]

Good video Barry this problem needs addressing

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

Yip they have done nothing for years, I am around this area every week, and I've seen rats walking the streets in daylight.

[@buisty1888]

Well done Baz there's lot more than sunshine 'but as Ive said the council want business to move to area hope more people buy new homes been build. You have highlighted other side

[@seigliere1]

The councils charge a whopping fee for rubbish collection and collect every other day but homeowners still prefer to dump by the bins or the local builders are the worst and I live in Catalunya!

[@thepanamahat]

Spot on video. I live in Manilva, we are lucky enough to have refuse collection almost daily, it mounts up and residents can be lazy, selfish baskets ( of all nationalities, I should add). The ugly sight of rubbish doesnt last long BUT it is reapeated, weekly....

[@haveringpish]

Exactly the same as Scotland, without the shitty weather.

[@sunnybeachwalks4k2022]

You are right Torrevieja is more looked after than orihuela costa

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

We noticed a big difference between the two councils after living in both places.

[@jamesbeech8643]

Again another great video showing the reality of some areas, personally I think Villa Martin is over hyped 😮

[@fionam3735]

It’s worse in Scotland, fly tiping everywhere my town is covered in weeds and dirty streets at least they have sunshine there

[@sangriaproperties.5507]

Yes its a number of reasons. 1.Builders and Gardeners who dont want to pay for a skip or to pay for trade rubbish removal. 2.Orihuela Costa doesnt have a recycling plant. Torrevieja does and i used to give the guy a drink to let me in. 3.Yes lazy residents. 4.Why dont the council used the large tarmac area at the bottom of Los Altos (Dream Hills) And Pau 8 to place some large skip to separate garden/rubble/furniture/etc etc. Orihuela City sucks the majority of funds from the Coast. 5.It isnt just rubbish.Schools/Roads/Public transport/How about a library. Love living here but please vote when given the chance.

[@davidbracken8737]

i live on villamartin the bin are emptied every other day, gardens are maintained every Tuesday, there are no shrubs growing up from the curb, but that being said i have to agree some area's need the local council to sort out the troubled area's

[@robertsterry9645]

Never said a truer word Barry it’s terrible but residents need to do a bit and take pride ,clean up & put whatever rubbish in the. Bins not beside them ,

[@coremartin2883]

Hi. I am Spanish a shamed noof this situation I moved here as permanent resident. Living in Los Dolses I have spoken to the council town. If there are some group of people ready to have a meeting looking for a solution I will be glad to be a translator. Something has to be done

[@derekburton2259]

Good video barry..we have holiday home in algorfa and none of the bins or areas are like that . To my knowledge there empited on daily basis.. good video though

[@Justin52wales]

Just as bad here in the U.K. now

[@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555]

I think it's a Spanish thing, anybody who's cycled across Spain like myself can tell you the amount of trash littering the whole country, even national parks, is astonishing. Also, every city & largish town has poor areas where maybe local council fees are not paid, so nothing gets collected and they end up looking like ghettos.

[@jackierogers566]

@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555 Also very much a Greek thing

[@robbiev4869]

We are in Torreta III and same here. Residents just drop of furniture, matrasses, stone en rubbish next to the bins. And they don't do it sneaky but in plain sight while people are around the bins. They do not care. But even with this it is still my place in the sun ;) Apart from cockroaches not having any other rodents.

[@alastairimray7073]

totally agree. The bins are the downside of owning here, but still love it here though.

[@michaeljones3774]

Happens here every time they come from Madrid & Catalonia.

[@edwardospells7477]

The whole of Spain is like this now . Portugal just amazing now .

[@themiddlejourney6286]

I wonder what location s are immaculate in spain . Great vid .

[@GerryT.]

Letting weeds run would seems to be common I'm most Spanish towns, o don't understand it, people let these weeds grow right outside their properties. I'd rather pay an extra €100 euros a year in IBI and have council workers cleaning up the area, but I think the majority would rather have lower IBI and let the weeds grow. Crazy, absolutely crazy, spoils the whole area.

[@jerzywoking1699]

I pull ip any weeds near my house and take them to the eco parque. Just remember to wear gloves when you pull them.

[@rossm8414]

Just back from Playa de La Mata/Torrevieja today & the bin area was the same on our street - residents & tourists are the problem. We saw people just drop stuff beside the bins rather than in them 🤷🏽‍♂️ Lazy ignorant people are the issue. To be fair to the local council, we saw a lorry full of men picking up all this crap at 7am this morning along La Mata beach

[@robertcanning1888]

Are you the celtic vlogger ive subbed to. If not i appoligise. Hail hail . Brill vlog my dad stayed in Benalmadena for 30 yrs. Ask for a meeting with the mayor and mention you tube

[@NickyDunne-l7z]

We pay SUMA to have our bins emptied by the council. They empty the bins regularly but the shit that people chuck beside the bins is left for weeks.

[@markmw123]

More bins needed ??

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

IF you stay in La Zenia watch this ALSO - kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6CWaXiDbKZ0oZY

[@matthewparrott7841]

If I could afford it I’d move to Javea

[@kerryburns-k8i]

I think you are more likely to find this in areas largely dependant on tourism, they attract people who want a quick profit at every level. Further inland I´ve never seen anything like that.

[@willwilson1356]

Homeowners and fly tippers ( generally builders) are the main culprits. Folk expect the council to do everything, yet think €150 Suma ( council tax) per year is magnificent. Residents from all over Europe are to blame here.

[@R8702w]

Agree seen people taking furniture and stuff from the bins for years . Where you started the video up near wolfies there’s loads of places like that . Shame

[@stevenb2366]

Edimburgo is a place in the rain and is no different these days as the over grown weed's in gutters and shrubs growing out of buildings in the city centre is ridiculously bad, with yet another bin strike looming the SNPee Scottish government have neglected the day job for year's

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

Interesting to hear that. Thanks for sharing and for watching.

[@husmanhagberg_costablancasouth]

walked a good amount in this video 🤣

[@magicmcquades6101]

It’s like Tenerife now Barry .since lockdooon nae street cleaners.I’ve saw the same rubbish at bus stops etc that was there 3 years ago.cut backs I’m guessing or perhaps we are too pernickerty.

[@kevinharkins1022]

Absolutely shocking. Quesada is far from perfect but no where near as bad as this. Rojales Ajuntamiento has become quite rich with Quesada being a part of it,but Rojales and los Palcios get maintained better than the urbanisations that have been a great benefit to them.

[@codyjarrett9685]

Is it Beirut

[@JuanMartinez-kv7bt]

maybe is a good chance to move to Harehills .

[@raewhittakerTea_pot]

A haven for rats and mice - Perhaps the show should be called ‘mice in the sun’ 😅

[@chazboyle9456]

worse than Edinburgh bazz what ive herd its down to the local council like over here decimated for years by the SNP you can see all the tall weeds every were in scotland by the roads due to lack of spending so much for we have allthe oil and gas etc a load of bollocks thank god their oot

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

We feel like a lot has changed in Scotland since we left and not for the better unfortunately. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@rogerjoesbury9410]

Thank you for the video, where are the cars. I havent seen so many bins in one road 😮 A big shame because it will only attract the rats as you have mentioned . take care in these strange days.

[@johanneslaven2018]

Has spain not got local rubbish dumps you can take your rubbish too, i live in pollock in glasgow now, took me 14 yrs to get out govan, but govan is really bad, on every street and corner theres rubbish and black bin bags ripped open, and yes the rats are massive, i do pick rubbish up if i see it by my house put in my own bin

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

It depends on the type of rubbish, there are tips but there are regulations so one issue is people don’t bother. Fly tipping is an issue, bins not being emptied frequently enough and people dumping whatever they like next to bins or on the streets. Orihuela council don’t take care of the costa area so it’s a vicious cycle.

[@mariasmith4u]

Shocking really…a lot of it is the skip raiders. I’ve seen them at it… Spain has many good attributes but rubbish and dog muck seem to be insurmountable problems in certain areas along with the graffiti.

[@PhilHiggins-g6i]

Congratulations on a reality video, yes it disgusting, This type of behaviour would not be Tolerate in UK or Ireland, if caught doing fly tipping a large fine awaits the culprit, but yes it does exist in UK and Ireland but not to same degree Torrevieja is a bit better in clearing up rubbish, but the Graffiti that bring the area down

[@wayneukboy]

My guess is that it's mostly English People living in the area and that's why the authorities don't give a dame...

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

Wait till you see this video about to go out. From Town to Costa compared

[@collin6238]

Looks like fly tipping This is due to become an endorsable driving licence offence in the UK

[@peterkelly5672]

Hi Barry 14 councils in Scotland bin men about to go on strike with the tourists going to see Edinburgh during the festival again with mountains of rubbish and Glasgow is already over run with rats the size of small dogs so that doesn’t look to bad compared to major Scottish cities 😢😢😢

[@matthewjames1114]

I like the way it's a bit rough and ready

[@dantownsend4246]

Safer in UK please stay there

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

😂😂😂

[@lindascott3585]

It's a disgrace still would move to spain

[@elizabethwhitehouse7752]

Not weeds in the middle of the road. Oleanders What a shame your accent is so bad. For the little white houses, you need to be in Andalucía, not Alicante. Although in Alicante, away from the coast, there are some pristine towns. I’ve lived in Spain for 20 years, but then I live in Murcia, and find your “report” offensive.

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

Andalucía is beautiful as well, we do love the white washed villages down there. It’s a very different coastline 😊

[@vanessaprice3707]

And I wonder who is putting the rubbish there-it won't be the Spanish!

[@CarlosAlberto-ii1li]

I have seen areas like this but where I live in Aragon there is none of this, Brits would be at home living in that area, there are also places much worse with new houses broken open and ripped apart. Years ago things were different, now we have a whole new breed of humans bought upon us by nasty humans from the last generation.

[@terrybogart589]

A lot of that looks like laziness.of.construction.crews!

[@josegarciapujante9586]

Remain in Scotland

[@ScottishCoupleInSpain]

Too late! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@wowitsshit9734]

nice that's where i go

[@keithbloomfield1341]

Even Blackpool’s not that bad 🗼