Before the Big Bang 7: An Eternal Cyclic Universe, CCC revisited & Twistor Theory

[@kranmaster]

Whoever meticulously edits and pieces together the various monologues/explanations into these seamless summaries, does one hell of a job.

[@PhilHalper1]

thanks

[@kranmaster]

@@PhilHalper1 Much obliged. And, thank you

[@PhilHalper1]

@@kranmaster you are welcome

[@kirankapoor6436]

Duality or Nonduality is sum kinda nonExplanation of space time matter gravity mass speed of the light but not the frequency of evrything...from inside out.

[@geoff8982]

🍗

[@fizzedupslade4082]

Sir Rog is so likeable, I bet he was a great teacher at Oxford. He never rolls his eyes at other's misunderstanding, he just plainly outlines his reasoning. He really is a national treasure and his theory of the BB is fascinating.

[@mastpg]

These guys are basically juggling mental chainsaws just to think about their own conjectures. I don't see how they could get cute with their explanation and still follow along themselves, despite how intelligent and trained they are.

[@trivonnereid8877]

yeah

[@seanhewitt603]

C.C.C.

[@KeithRowley418]

The foundations of physics have not changed in 40 years. Why? Because we don't have many original thinkers like Sir Roger Penrose. Thank you sir - you are a bright beacon of originality.

[@mrmoody915]

After doing acid this is how i imagined the universe to work like the beating of a heart

[@iliyzavialov3199]

dude, how to think about this on acid? i mean, it always goes so crazy, impossible to focus on smth complex.. But im very interested to think about smth deep on acids. How u do this?

[@bengt-ovegoransson8643]

Drugs dull your senses and make you reflect your own sensation to a bigger spectra. Of course you imagine life as ignorant personal understanding, why would you have any fantasy of any kind, taking drugs?

[@DefeatLust]

@@bengt-ovegoransson8643 I was going to reply and educate you, but after reading what you wrote for about the 20th time... I have no idea wtf you said lol.

[@mrmoody915]

@@bengt-ovegoransson8643 hahahaha sureee 😂 just keep on taking your woker bee drugs drink your coffee and consume your sugar. If you want to believe in the illusion of life go for it but i am loving in every wayyy and after havinf my eyes open my anxiety has been cureeddd

[@mrmoody915]

@@iliyzavialov3199 em? Ive dont large amounts of lsd but after an ego desth i dont feel the need to over do it anymore a quarter tab is more than enough for me now

[@dreamcastknight]

In simple terms the universe expands so much it rips open to create a new universe. Nice.

[@TheMrCougarful]

Penrose has an amazing mind, and not afraid to swim against the tides. We are all better served for that effort and courage.

[@SimonEarly]

Not sure if you will ever read this comment (Sir) Roger, but you were the principle reason I was awe-inspired as a young man to go study Physics/Electronics at Brighton Poly in 1985. I've carried on my enthusiasm for Physics ever since, so thank you, albeit indirectly.

[@josephselkow2845]

For me I was torn between physics and accordion repair.

[@healthydog1]

I doubt he gives a shit.

[@Carolina_Housing_Solutions]

thats awesome brother :) ty

[@debravalreyes2033]

Another idiot using a un finished math problem to write theories of space....

[@uzairqarni7782]

Incredibly coherent compilation with lots of sources to paint a clear picture of these theories for the layperson. Wonderful! Thank you!

[@PhilHalper1]

you are welcome, thanks for you encouragement.

[@Bradmhj]

Thank you so much for getting this information out there. I love learning this theory and finally am understanding it!

[@clarkkent52]

Stupid so what was the first cause? Nothing in the material universe can regress infinitely backwards. There is always the First Cause and the First Cause must by necessity be Uncaused.

[@donnievance1942]

@@clarkkent52 I'm sorry, but now I see you are spamming this stupid comment. Therefore, you have gone outside the realm where politeness is your due. The guys being interviewed in this video could double or triple your IQ score, so STFU and stop humiliating yourself.

[@space.youtube]

There's something beautifully elegant and intuitive about CCC, that as a layperson I find very appealing.

[@martingrundy5475]

I must admit, there are some parts that indeed do have a certain charm or allure. Other parts don't sit quite as comfortably. Of course I'm no one to be making actual determinations. It is most certainly intriguing. Roger Penrose does enjoy it on the edge though, it seems. The cutting edge. BTW, did you see Penrose's tiles or tessellations. There was a brief clip of them during this, just with people walking unknowingly over them. With no mention. They are, of course meant for walking on. They are worth a look if your'e not aware. But nothing is straightforward with Penrose.

[@matthewgrant2785]

*Space Jockey you're just using this vid as an excuse to prove that your fairy tale God exists

[@space.youtube]

@@matthewgrant2785 I'm an atheist. So yeah, there's that. Ps how do you get a need for a prime mover out of CCC? I think you went off half cocked, as seems to be the want of the new crop of doltish militant atheists.

[@matthewgrant2785]

@@space.youtube an atheist layperson lol, a bit like a Jew working for a mosque, personally I'm agnostic

[@space.youtube]

@@matthewgrant2785 you are literally too stoopid to offended. Google 'layperson' and read past the first meaning.

[@magister.mortran]

Impressive! CCC finally brings some sense in our cosmology that the Inflation model was lacking. The apparent flatness of our universe (its Euclidean geometry) leaves no other explanation than an infinite extension and that would not go along well with the old Big Bang theory. But with CCC all of our observations fit in. It also solves the entropy problem. Thanks for the video. CCC was new to me, but it answers so many questions I had.

[@zethandrews3860]

It does seem to wrap a nice bow around everything while still conserving energy in the form of dark energy/matter and at the same time even gives a new meaning to the multiverse theory doesn't it?

[@mamunurrahman5341]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jInGZWZ9f5mVjrs

[@96oscarC]

the editing on this video is beautiful, your effort is appreciated

[@PhilHalper1]

thanks very much

[@pupstermobster8567]

Well pleasantly surprised by the calm voice with the professional video. Rare thing to find.

[@PhilHalper1]

Thanks

[@DJGrasshopa]

My tiny brain cannot understand all the ideas but always enjoy content like this. Thank you for the share!

[@PhilHalper1]

Thanks, if you have nay questions I can try and answer them

[@Sebastian-kp2up]

Take psychedelics and your mind will open up to new knowledge and will be able to process things with ease.

[@mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable]

Young Bass shrooms are fun but you are bullshitting yourself on some yogi butthole tanning pachouli munching nonsense if you really think they “open your mind maaaaaan”

[@dionelremedios9762]

@@mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable spiritist are cringe

[@danielcarvalho3437]

@@dionelremedios9762 is not about spiritist is about unlocking your mind to view further and think furder without some barriers, but who im i to tell what to do right?

[@JoaoPedro-jr8pf]

The story of the universe is filled with the recurrent "plot twist" at the end where it zooms out hard and the expanding universe is actually... ANOTHER EXPANDING UNIVERSE

[@AndrewMclave]

That’s exactly it, well said!

[@jordansnider1923]

And why wouldn’t that universe be exact to our own? Our universe’s time is infinite and technically so are our lives. Rebirth live then die over and over

[@JoaoPedro-jr8pf]

@@jordansnider1923 i suppose that, in this infinitely repeating process with an infinite number of big bangs, sometimes there is an aeon that is very similar to ours. But this is a very small fraction of the aeons. The majority would be different not just bc the particles would align differently, but also bc even the universal constants might change (tho this is definitely unknown)

[@OrchestralOrg]

*there is only one universe.*

[@OrchestralOrg]

@@JoaoPedro-jr8pf *there is only one explosion that produces the singular universe. i am the sole source of that explosion. and no, the explosion was not a collision between myself and anything else. the explosion was caused by agitation (some asshole agitating and harassing me).*

[@access5870]

I've been studying physics for many years of my life in an amateur way. This video and idea made everything click. It all came together. This video made me finally fully appreciate the idea that information is everything.

[@krivjeto]

Still no answer what happend inside a black hole....

[@HelsinkiFINketeli_berlin_com]

Once again Buddha was right

[@access5870]

@pyropulse Sorry you're so triggered. I have many goals in life, not just studying physics. I have my own profession. If you are so against the CCC model I suggest you put your hard work towards proving it wrong rather than bashing amateurs on the internet.

[@johns1625]

I remember when this video first came out and I revisit it every couple of years. CCC is a wonderful idea and it totally makes perfect sense to me.

[@innertubez]

The CCC idea is brilliantly creative even if we never find out if it’s true. Also makes me wonder if it would be possible to do something in our universe that would show up as a “message” in the CMB of the next universe down the line. I don’t think so but it would be cool. Perhaps a giant “42” in the background radiation or something like that.

[@AliceYobby]

You could if you were able to manipulate black holes !

[@jaymobiggety9903]

Awesome

[@clarkkent52]

Stupid so what was the first cause? Nothing in the material universe can regress infinitely backwards. There is always the First Cause and the First Cause must by necessity be Uncaused.

[@donnievance1942]

@@clarkkent52 I don't think you understood the video, bud. It didn't even take on the little philosophical dictum you posed of "nothing in the material universe can regress infinitely backwards" so I will. What you just said is nothing but an unfounded presupposition. You can assert it all you want, but math and physics have no problem with a past infinite universe. Actually, positing a terminus in the past (aka a beginning) aggravates, rather than simplifies, the mathematical, physical, and philosophical problems. Think about a terminus for future time and the insoluble conundrums that would create. The situation for the past is symmetrical. And that symmetry is parallel to the way that we know the laws of Newtonian or Relativistic mechanics work. They are time symmetrical. If you want to bring the whole thing back to the level of everyday verbal logic, then we can say that there is no a priori reason for there to be a "first cause" than for there to be a "last event" in the history of reality. Neither one of those is intuitively compelling or justified by observable experience. We have never observed anything to just begin without arising from material and energetic antecedents or ever just end without transforming into material and energetic products. And there is no empirical information whatever indicating that the causal succession is limited in either direction of time.

[@clarkkent52]

@@donnievance1942 all that waffle..bro nothing true 'nothingness' not the nothingness your schools teach that nothing turns out to have small quantum fluctuations in fact your schools teach that nothing actually has something going on in it lool.. I can tell u love to pontificate so let me make it easy for you we live in a cause and effect universe something always proceeds something this 100% proven and observed as its the basis for all reaction....infinite regression is impossible you can never reach any point, how did we get to this point if infinite regression?...there's a difference between the theoretical math you do in your western schools and what actually happens in reality...difference between an engineer and a theoretical physicist/mathematician is that the engineer can actually prove his reality outside of a fancy concepts written on a piece of paper...Math on paper isn't the same as reality my friend..you sound smart dumb

[@lilliannieswender266]

This is so interesting, especially for someone like me who has just discovered the wonder of hard science. Thank you so much.

[@PhilHalper1]

Thanks for your comment, we appreciate it.

[@cillyhoney1892]

I really like the host. I like her pigtails. I like that she speaks clearly without any of that croaky vocal fry that everybody seems to be using these days. I like her calm energy.

[@TheGeenat]

Cilly Honey wow, I didn’t know that was the name for it. It makes total sense lol. And to think that people are intentionally doing that is... creepy for some reason.

[@cillyhoney1892]

@Lynette Scribner pigtails are timeless. Every culture has had pigtails. It's not just for little girls. I wear my hair in pigtails frequently and I am not trying to pass myself off as a younger woman. It's just part of my heritage. Maybe it is for her as well. Maybe she just likes the convenience of braids. Maybe we shouldn't try mind reading. Way too much of that going on these days.

[@ajcook7777]

I couldn't disagree more. She reminds me of an Artificial Intellegence (A.I) robot with her fake passive monotone voice (I.e. watch her head bounce around from side to side, up and down while she has no expression in it all. It sounds like she's reading a grocery list. Finally, it is quite obvious to tell when a person speaking does not write their own script; I noticed this very quickly by her inability to match her voice/tone to her facial expressions and body language, when someone does not, or cannot, match their tone and body language to what they are speaking about it's quite evident they have no knowledge of the subject whatsoever, she, I'm afraid is case and point.

[@jengleheimerschmitt7941]

@@ajcook7777 I agree that she is probably an AI. Or at least just a hired narrator. Her forced smile is very bizzare with this subject matter. She sounds like she's trying to keep kindergarten class "engaged". Maybe she works for the Zoo-Hypothesis guys...

[@forestdenizen6497]

She uses vocal fry all throughout.

[@sherlockholmeslives.1605]

In my opinion this is one of the best documentaries I have seen.

[@PhilHalper1]

thanks very much

[@timn4481]

in my opinion i am the best driver in the world.

[@sherlockholmeslives.1605]

@@timn4481 Lol!

[@spiralsun1]

Definitely ❤️✊🏻 The first one crosses the T’s and dots the I’s.

[@spiralsun1]

@@timn4481 said everyone who ever drove…. Lol

[@Sarah.Riedel]

This sort of sounds like the cosmological equivalent of Shepard tones, a tone that seems to increase in pitch indefinitely in which the lowest pitch and the highest pitch literally blend into one another indistinguishably.

[@julcaos]

that's like waaay beyond music theory or something, right?

[@Sarah.Riedel]

@@julcaos it's not really music theory but acoustics or the physics of sound waves. Check it out there are samples of the tones out there, it's pretty trippy. A lot of game developers and experimental musicians seem to be employing Shepard tones lately to evoke weird dysphoric feelings in listeners, but it's basically just the auditory equivalent of an optical illusion. Edit: and here's a cool mini doc about the use of Shepard tones in a scene from "Dunkirk": kzbin.info/www/bejne/goe6hYSZj8d_nbs

[@julcaos]

@@Sarah.Riedel Wow! That was fuckin awesome... thanks... I've seen this effect in music loops... stay safe.

[@georgenewitt8685]

That's a great way to put it. I've always been interested by Shepard tones and the fact that they can relate to something as deep as CCC is pretty mind-blowing.

[@timonc6302]

Ok NOW i understand the last season of The 100

[@dariokarnincic717]

I had to watch about 8 hours of other lectures to even begin to comprehend what exactly they are talking about! Wonderful documentary!

[@PhilHalper1]

thans

[@rodneyhatch56]

This is really great. Freed my thinking in places I'd been stuck since exponential expansion towards the infinite separation of massless particles (rather than a big crunch) was revealed a few years back as probably the ultimate fate of the universe. Seems like "scale" is an illusion and infinite separation is no different than infinite density! We remain cyclical!

[@larsfaye292]

Scale is an illusion...that's a great way to say it. It's infinitely relative, so the notion of scale is...moot!

[@nostalgiatrip7331]

The universe continues to amaze me. Glad to be sharing it with you !

[@omfgacceptmyname]

nonduality wins again...

[@L2p2]

skydivephil: please tell me if this makes sense 1) As dark energy related expansion grows the observable universe shrinks. i.e. we become disconnected with other parts of the universe. So although entropy might be very high locally or the observable entropy keeps falling. This appears to violate the 2nd law but not really if we consider the "whole universe" . just because we partitioned it does not change. 2) However, having send that as we start partitioning the universe we get a smaller and smaller universe locally. This means as this has less micro states in total it gets ordered locally more and more. i.e. if we get down to almost the size of a particle then it is perfectly ordered or has the lowest entropy possible. We know a pair of particle and antiparticle has very low entropy or actually zero. This is how we get a low entropy state at the start of the next big bang. it also means even though we may become a very large universe every observer sees a smaller and smaller universe. It means every part of the whole universe gives rise to its own new universe. This explains how high entropy get divided up into smaller and smaller pieces and ends up as low entropy.

[@garist16]

This theory fits perfectly with Asimov "Last Question" :D

[@tylermerlin8320]

and calculus.

[@SwiftDavid1489]

Taking eternity into account you could theorize that a universe just like this has existed where only one particle is different in that previous universe. When talking about Eternity you can imagine some incredibly interesting scenarios.

[@TroyElwoodHagerman]

Like consciousness after death; or, because in the moment, which is eternal, we have awareness, and have never known the difference, being dead for a long time then your conscious again after trillions of years that you would not sense - so to you your born again in an instant with no recollection of any kind of existence. Where and what you're born into, well, a future ...

[@TroyElwoodHagerman]

Since all is possible in eternity is a good definition of eternity God (not a man with a beard on a throne, but eternity itself id what God is)

[@bobwilson7684]

this is a great point for comical sci-fi story

[@JohnCena8351]

@@TroyElwoodHagerman that's called coping my man

[@jaybennet4491]

​@@JohnCena8351our brains evolved as one big cope due to existence within our universe.

[@reggiesj4918]

Ah yes this is the theory I've been searching for pre Big Bang! Thank you for the upload!

[@NondescriptMammal]

Penrose is about the only person who describes the quantum concepts and cosmological models in such a way that I can actually grasp the meaning and visualize the situations.

[@RooBot]

I've got this playlist on shuffle again, for the umpteenth time. CCC for the win!

[@lunairies]

Yaaaaaas I’ve been looking for this. I’m not physics inclined at all but I have a massive fascination with our universe, our beginnings and endings. So I try my best to keep up 😅

[@PhilHalper1]

thans, glad you found it. Have you seen are other videos? I think there will be a lot there for you

[@shashidharshettar3846]

I am so LUCKY having come across your theory of “CCC-Model” an entirely new model that I had not come across in my random KZbin Physics fanatics even though I don’t know a single Physics Law in Depth as I went into a Medical Field and Lost the precious physics and math alike. This show simply inspired me and kept me awake past midnight to watch and rewind many times to grasp the new theory unlike the other shows repeating the same “particle physics”. Thank you sir and all of you from A-Z in the scientific work to The Cameraman and Others TOO.

[@PhilHalper1]

glad you liked it, have you seen the other films in the series?

[@clarkkent52]

Stupid so what was the first cause? Nothing in the material universe can regress infinitely backwards. There is always the First Cause and the First Cause must by necessity be Uncaused.

[@donnievance1942]

@@clarkkent52 Reported for spam, clown.

[@guitarizard]

​@@clarkkent52why is that?

[@clarkkent52]

because the logic of cause and effect..that is how we were able to rewind to a single point...and that point cannot be part of infinite regression of causality because you cannot get to from infinity to present if you infinitely regressing? its illogical even by so called science standrds@@guitarizard

[@rastrmantheseer673]

This CCC idea is making more sense than the BB. Even a grade school kid, upon hearing "it all began when..." would immediately ask, "But what was it before that?" I think Mr. Penrose and colleagues are on to something. Ancient texts from India indicate cyclic periods, measured in many trillions of years. 3/4 of the time "on" and 1/4 "off", the "off" time is called "Kali". In Indian music, 4/4 time reflects that cycle -- the beat happens for 3 counts then is silent on the 4th, also called "Kali." Anyway, YES, I think you're onto a better theory than most out there.

[@sigurdbruun2525]

I always get butterflies in my stomach when I start thinking about what existed before the universe

[@LumieX]

Only God existed before the universe.

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

@@LumieX [CITATION NEEDED ]

[@LumieX]

@@bacicinvatteneaca It's a simple logical requirement for existence. Since something cannot come from nothing, there must be an eternal entity that is capable of creating things.

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

@@LumieX LOL

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

@@LumieX so, everything in existence must have a cause, which somehow means that cause must be a being (something that is more or less conscious) and somehow this being doesn't need a cause? Don't appeal to logic when you're this lost, please. Just say "I like it better if there's a sky daddy"

[@prosimulate]

This video explains it all, Sir Roger Penrose, I always had a hunch the universe was cyclic, even as a kid. My thinking was, no matter what, if it can happen once it can happen again, infinite times. Love this video!

[@LisaAnn777]

I like the idea of the universe being in an eternal cycle of expansion and collapse. Means eventually all of this will happen again given enough time. I like that idea better than the universe just expanding for eternity untill the heat death and everything inside the universe dying slowly.

[@casamurphy]

I wrote a poem about CCC many years ago: If Aristotle Had Loved Women Aristotle, though wrong, is not to blame for suggesting an endless series to be insane. He never had the pleasure of your acquaintance nor the metaphors of modern science. If He had known that your every molecule dies and is reborn in seven yearly intervals, He’d rejoice with me as we proceeded to imagine your body caressed and heeded. And to notice the wondrous insufficiency as seven years passed much to quickly. With so many points of beauty left untouched I’m sure he would gladly concede as much: That an endless series can hold comfort eternal past and future but a moment captured when lovers gaze intently and the universe collapses gently.

[@PhilHalper1]

nice poem but you might need t change the end because the universe does not collapse in CCC

[@casamurphy]

@@PhilHalper1 Unfortunately the poem was written many years ago, so in the name of poetic license maybe we can give collapse a generic meaning such as a local event that precedes a turn of a cycle or simply how each moment is simultaneously both the effect of all past causes and cause of all future events. Nonetheless, thank you for your response...most gracious.

[@jordansnider1923]

This shows you and proves my theory that the universe is birthed for us to live our lives only to be destroyed and rebirthed again causing the only evidence of infinity. We live laugh learn love only to do it all over again. Terribly beautiful

[@bobwilson7684]

ouroboros, sufi dance, yin yang.........etc

[@jordansnider1923]

Maybe you should smoke get your head outta your ass. I’ve been sober I don’t do drugs mate

[@minimead368]

So this is why I keep getting Deja-vu

[@robg6965]

Mini Mead3, I had the same thought earlier this year. We have had this journey before and to me explains deja vu. How many times? Not sure but at least once. Time for me to get off the merry-go-round. It can be done. Otherwise we will do it again in a few trillion years, give or take a few billion years. 😀

[@macrograms]

Is there and echo? (Is there and echo?) {is there an echo..}

[@alleycatdevil]

Rob G u stoopid

[@matthewwright7831]

A long time ago we made comments on here and a long time in the future we will do exactly the same?

[@mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable]

The experience one gets of “Deja-vu” is due to our species incredible ability for pattern recognition which was a byproduct of our evolution as a social species. There is no “cosmological” reason for it, its just science.

[@TNTsundar]

It looks like our universe is part of a giant flower that is in the process of blooming.

[@No.Res_1]

I find myself coming back to this video over and over again. Such interesting possibilities to ponder.

[@teemum.9023]

This video contains the deepest insight to an old astrophysicist, one that is just given instead us having to do it with luck in 50 years of personal work. The script of the journalist is excellent. She presents the whole picture in other words. There is also the insight of the whole leading thought in the field. Please archive this.

[@PhilHalper1]

thanks

[@gyse6920]

Yeah wish I knew who she was. I like the way she carries the video.

[@TheZenytram]

The whole universe is in the groundhog day for eternety

[@larsfaye292]

The cosmic song of eternity is actually "I Got You Babe"

[@StopSpammingOriginal]

When watching this and giving it my all to get my brain to follow the thoughts, all other issues seem so insignificant. It is so amazing and somehow fills me with pride to know that fellow-humans are rising to this level and can effectively provide all these ideas not just as fiction, but complete with explanations and the complete reasoning behind them.

[@johnhare8208]

@York Hunt he didn't even mention that. Quit projecting

[@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC]

(10:45) There is no "loss of information" within existence. Like energy, it simply gets converted into other types of information. *_"What happens in existence stays in existence."_*

[@GR-sg2lv]

35:55 Penrose's explanation of the variance in temperature areas made me think of marbles being thrown on the ground which randomly scatter depending on how they collide with each other.

[@Andrew-pp2ql]

Absolute gems all your videos in this series! You both have done a wonderful job in making these happen. Must of been a blast to converse in person with these people. Sort of makes some of us jealous I suppose...but a hearty thank you.

[@PhilHalper1]

you are more than welcome, thanks for your comment

[@PajujuJuelzebub]

I'm just finding this, and I swear I experienced going through this kind of model of the universe while I was experiencing ego death on LSD.

[@gangsterkami1]

Amen brother. Join the discussion in the comments section of this cool video to discuss similar ideas to all this. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b324n5Wrm6ZkoNU

[@andrewwachtel1150]

The fact that you took the time to write your comment would indicate that you didn't experience any "ego death." Hope you understand why. Read more. Think more. And free your self from needing any recognition for your ego that you think died lol

[@daryljonesfoster4102]

Junkie Lord spotted !

[@tylermerlin8320]

spin in the inside-out direction?

[@joshthomson1998]

​@John Wilson It might sound stupid, but there is some legitimacy. I have personally seen things that resemble a mandelbrot and the fractals that branch from them. On mushrooms I've seen numbers, 0's and 1, like binary code on the wall. These drugs unlock some piece of your brain that lets you hone in on some of the secrets to the universe.

[@rwjazz1299]

These docs are so well done. I've watched so many. But, I'm no closer to anything resembling an answer than when I began. No are all these scientists; even after spending entire careers on the subject. And I don't think they thought for a second they would ever come close to knowing the answer. It's the old adage: it's the journey that's important; not the destination. I don't pretend to understand the equations. But they look cool.

[@PhilHalper1]

thanks

[@alexanderstanley4608]

Penrose is amazing.

[@PhilHalper1]

Yes he certainly is

[@edholohan]

Thanks.

[@Barbreck1]

Penrose is a dreamer with no evidence to back his hypotheses. No Hubble Constant = no Big Bang.

[@ammarch1319]

They are all great researchers trying to find answers to questions we are wondering about. My admiration to them is limitless. Hopefully one day I ll be lucky to meet one of them.

[@Barbreck1]

@@ammarch1319 This is not research, it is wild speculation based upon flawed evidence and lacking in rational logic.

[@lexlux777]

Interesting video.Thank you. But listening to it through a JBL Bluetooth speaker, there are several issues with the final mix of it. You could use a de-esser and high-pass filter to rid these issues. The S's and and bass frequency of certain interviewed people's voices are more or less very harsh to listen to.

[@PhilHalper1]

ok will take that into account next time thanks

[@GhostPrefix]

Excellent production and well put together dialogue. Keep them coming !

[@PhilHalper1]

thanks

[@SomeDaysYoureBarbra]

I love nothing more than having my mind blown, with coffee, early in the morning. For some reason, it's in the pre-dawn morning when I can best grasp what these types of videos try to get across. Just when I'm finally becoming comfortable with the multiverse metaphor of soap bubbles in a bath, now I am learning that the arguments for a cyclic multiverse make just as much mathematical sense. Amazing..... I appreciate your channel and channels like it greatly. Other than reading books, videos like yours are my favorite way to expand the breath of my knowledge. And compliments to the editor. They way these interviews are interlaced is extremely well done. It clearly shows that the editing team is well and fully versed on all of the arguments presented.

[@zethandrews3860]

I would argue that the two multiverse and cyclic universes aren't mutually exclusive. It is possible that the two are actually one in the same or there is some combination of the two but our understanding of it doesn't quite work out yet because there's something we are missing. It's a pretty interesting thought because each big bang could be the creation of another entire multiverse in a cyclic CCC way creating multiple bubble universes that expand indefinitely to give birth to a new set of multiverses. just some crazy thoughts.

[@lousimms4766]

This actually makes lots of sense, and I came to this very idea on my own without the specific details--just the overall idea. When the universe comes to its big crunch, and the last black hole evaporates away, there will be nothing. As we know, nothing has these virtual sub-atomic particles popping in and out of existence. With enough passage of time, some of these sub-atomic particles popping in and out of existence will create a new expansion from a random fluctuation, and it starts all over again.

[@tortysoft]

Yup - I did too.

[@SuperMentalMicky]

With nothing, there would be no time.

[@xoomvids]

We exist like a sparkle of sunlight on a river that dances for the briefest moment and is gone. I imagine sometimes that the river is a multiverse of multiverses and that we are the sparkles blinking in and out of existence throughout all of it experiencing infinite lifetimes in infinite forms in infinite places for eternity.

[@geoff8982]

🌭

[@AndrewMclave]

xoomvids , once again I say half a mushroom is plenty. But other than that yeah!

[@chrisballesteros6181]

If the universe is indeed forever it is very likely that this is the start of many lifetimes we will have.

[@ClydeBCWillis]

Yahoooooooo...

[@Bondol1727]

Excellent mind expanding watch.Difficult subject explained within probable and possible context.

[@randybugger3006]

I love that I also proposed this idea, albeit without any data to back it up other than an assumption that the universe will experience heat death and some rudimentary quantum physics. Universe expands, reaches a homogenous and near zero temperature, exhibits a unified quantum state, undergoes a quantum event and pops out a new BB. Space and time have always existed and always will in this model. And me, a college dropout with a passing interest in physics and cosmology comes to the same conclusion as the great R Penrose. Hot damn.

[@Tiedlux]

3:31 am and im watching this meanwhile I have a dentist appointment in the morning *wowie*

[@Meruem4]

Well? Any cavities? Do not leave us with this cliffhanger.

[@Tiedlux]

@@Meruem4 No cavities and im not surprised since I never had a cavity in my life anyway all is well thanks for asking😂

[@Meruem4]

@@Tiedlux No problem. Im REALLY afraid now, i had 1 cavity, years ago.. BUT have not been to the dentist in years. Fuck..

[@LessThanPeachy]

Meruem4 woah dude holy shit I had a premonition that I’d be reading this exact string of comments. I’m just curious as to why

[@Meruem4]

@@LessThanPeachy i guess the universe has spoken. Now please, send me a message and we can arrange the money transfer. After you paid my student debt i'll tell you about the secrets of the universe, premonitions, god, etc :D

[@theNuclearNixons]

There was a time when I pondered the idea that our Universe was "born" from the womb of another "Mother Universe"; that Universes are like living entities. Birth can be a seemingly scary & violent event, and so was the so-called "Big Bang."

[@lauragarcia8634]

Other universes and parents universe child universes

[@CriticalPhemomenon]

Not dumbed down .....good work.

[@PhilHalper1]

Yeah I think there is a gap in the market for non dumbed down stuff, youtube is a great place for it.

[@theritz4533]

Shut up you fucking knobhead. Complete tosser.

[@balazstorok9265]

skydivephil subbed after first video

[@PhilHalper1]

thanks

[@lucidanecdote683]

I wish it was dumbed down. Ya'll are too smart for me.

[@justice7788]

No matter what is going on out in space, I still hate myself and wake up depressed every day.

[@pokerbob05]

You just need the right friends with good life goals my friend. I'm in the same position albeit not as severe. Message me sometime buddy don't suffer on your own.

[@lawsonkennamer6554]

Same

[@lawsonkennamer6554]

Life sucks

[@samphazm]

So glad to find more of this series. Really wonderful to watch ❤️

[@PhilHalper1]

Thanks

[@TylerO_O.]

FRACTAL EONS. I like this theory . It's just being brought to my attention . Sir roger seems really cool too

[@PhilHalper1]

he is , thanks for your comment

[@larsfaye292]

Yes! This whole theory reminds me of the Mandelbrot set.

[@andrewwachtel1150]

I find myself feeling calm after watching this

[@vincentcampbell8314]

I do too

[@badnbourgeoisie6480]

Imagine if we're all expanding at an exponential rate everyday, like I'm a billion times bigger than I was yesterday...but it's all relative 😲

[@dotandspiral8404]

bad n bourgeoisie No, just no

[@zevak1]

mind blown

[@rf426]

Theres absolutely no way to disprove this. I like this theory a lot

[@benderrodriguez6343]

Imagine we're all dust on someone's lapel.

[@ceezb5629]

What? But we’re not though. Wouldn’t we be huge? We can actually tell starts/galaxies are getting farther away, yet we are constant. Kudos on thinking outside the box though!

[@popculture70]

This theory is incredibly exciting. I've always thought that multiple universes created more questions than it answered... I.e. that if there are multiple universes then they must be 'in" something else. I've also had a nagging doubt about there being a "start" point of the universe. This theory is so elegant... The universe is eternal but never static. It puts the "uni" back in Universe. I love it!

[@gxlorp]

It makes so much more fucking sense philisophically. If you sit there and rationally contemplate things. Or if you take a psychedelic and experience temporal or spatial eternity/infinity. It's just appalling.

[@lauragarcia8634]

Then if multiverse true so we could build new universes just like god and nothing did make universe born

[@cranjismcbasketball2118]

So the universe is like my belt size... constantly expanding!

[@manofgod7622]

Are you pregnant?

[@kenbrock940]

Captivatingly put together in a sensible way. Thank you for creating this. Very well done.

[@ashley_brown6106]

This theory is my personal favorite, I hope it's proved one day I'd be SOOOO excited!!!!

[@ElBantosClips]

It's 3:48am and I just started watching this... Goodnes

[@PhilHalper1]

Glad to know its grabbed your attention but hope you can get some goo sleep.

[@ElBantosClips]

skydivephil I love watching all of this stuff, really puts everything into a nice and stress free perspective for me. I'm not working at the moment so 4am is bed time haha

[@benistingray6097]

haha same here ;)

[@sandeshmanjeshwar]

I just read it's 3:48 am, and I look up the time on my phone and it's exactly 3:48 am.

[@ElBantosClips]

sandesh manjeshwar Hahaha creepy! :)

[@vincentcampbell8314]

Our universe is just a vast beating heart. The energy in our universe, along with the soul of every living thing, is the blood that flows through that heart. Thinking of it like that really sets me at ease, and I really love this video for helping me realize that. Thank you so much for this.

[@jgreen2015]

I'm not sure you understood the video

[@clarkkent52]

Stupid so what was the first cause? Nothing in the material universe can regress infinitely backwards. There is always the First Cause and the First Cause must by necessity be Uncaused.

[@stevemadden5961]

Buddha said no beginning or no end to the universe.. it's cyclic.. eternity continues

[@a9a9d]

Before Budhha ...many have already elaborated this in Ancient Vedas and Upnishdas . Budhha just rephrased so we need to go back way before Budhha to understand how to put modern framework around these ideas .

[@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822]

Buddha also didn’t rise from the grave

[@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822]

Anirban Chakrabarti is that just your opinion? Or is that absolutely true?

[@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822]

Anirban Chakrabarti good thing opinions don’t matter in regards to reality 😅

[@biblethumpinjesusfreak9822]

Anirban Chakrabarti who said that’s all they’re meant to do? Is that another one of your opinions?

[@Brammy007a]

Of all the mindboggling hypotheses out there, for me, Penrose’s Conformal Cyclic Cosmology is the most mindboggling.

[@casamurphy]

Wonderful production only lacking one thing: The name of a speaker should be embedded in the frame.

[@hamentaschen]

They gave all the names up front in the beginning. Pay attention, or stop commenting uselessness that nobody cares about.

[@casamurphy]

@@hamentaschen I cared and my suggestion is not useless. As to why it is not useless, I would be happy to discuss with you, but I suppose few people dare offer you suggestions for improvement of anything you are involved in for fear of being insulted? How sad.

[@hamentaschen]

@@casamurphy Dude. Chill out. You sound worse than a millennial crybaby. You sound just like a triggered millennial crybaby. And that's the worst kind of millennial crybaby, a triggered one. If you do not want your precious little crybaby feelings to get hurt I suggest you stay away from the internet. Oh... please tell your mom 'thanks' for last night!

[@xXxBurnerable]

@@casamurphy this guy you're trying to have an arguement with seems to be on a completely different level. Don't mind him. Good note is to basically never argue on the internet, I bet it has very very rarely come to any positive outcome because of it. Good day people

[@maxxcobra9030]

The name of the speaker IS included in the frame. The introductory segment of each speaker. Such is the practice for all quality productions. They are introduced once, and then subsequently are not, so as the leave the frame uncluttered. Its up to you to remember people's names upon such an indroduction. You know, like when you meet people, and how they don't constantly remind you of their name.

[@maestroanth]

I've always thought that big bangs would just occur when space rips itself apart through too much expansion.

[@nmarbletoe8210]

This CCC theory is similar, but instead of space getting ripped apart, spacetime forgets how big it is.

[@walterbishop3668]

Very well structured and presented. Thank you

[@PhilHalper1]

thanks

[@tim57243]

The transition at 53:24 is hilarious. Announcer says "can we use this to explain black holes?". Mysterious background music is running. Penrose appears and says no. Background music fades away, disappointed.

[@h00db01i]

-ly

[@tovopro]

Was hoping for a record scratch sound effect instead.

[@nmarbletoe8210]

@@tovopro Penrose can scratch an aperiodic rhythm.

[@OrchestralOrg]

*black holes are best understood when you go look in a mirror at the pupils of your eyes. now consider the massive giants contained in the universe. those black holes are the pupils of etheric entities. our celestial bodies are absolutely massive.*

[@h00db01i]

I'll have what this guy has ;3

[@Lumooja]

I think what happens at the end of an Eon is that atoms start to decay as the expansion rips apart the strong nuclear force (which apparently are forming somekind of geometry from which the constants of physics can be calculated) and instantly the whole universe collapse as the constants of physics were violated making existence impossible.

[@J2day2]

Interesting, Conformal geometry sounds an awful lot like hyperbolic geometry that people see in altered states of mind. I.e. dimethyl tryptamine induced (DMT) states of consciousness

[@mrsnoo86]

Joe "DMT" Rogan

[@roubenkhosrovian]

The quality of content is way better than I could imagine. Editing skills are awesome. Table of contents great idea too. The only issue I have is that content is a bit too technical but maybe that's the way or the video would've been 4-hour ones. I wish this channel success. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@PhilHalper1]

thanks

[@dpcon1994]

Loved this! Struggled with a lot of it, but I enjoyed it all

[@zachb2127]

@Adriana Bonita Aziz supreme iniciator of life? I haven't heard that before

[@zachb2127]

@Adriana Bonita Aziz you didn't have to assume my beliefs when you expressed you're existentialism and contradicted your religion (I think you have one? Based on previous comments) saying the only truth is that others are useless

[@zachb2127]

@Adriana Bonita Aziz what? And 2am here it's not so late

[@zachb2127]

@Adriana Bonita Aziz you are insulting people? Everyone else on the planet? And most people with your beliefs think it's a sin to swear, do you believe differently?

[@rumac7489]

From destruction comes renewal. An eternal cycle of possibilities woven into a cloak of existence.

[@PC160]

It's turtles all the way down.

[@TheYahmez]

Plinko*

[@ericmiller6056]

I was just about to write the same thing. You beat me to it by 4 months! Nice work.

[@bartdart3315]

I only recently saw CCC being explained by Penrose, which blew my mind...low and behol that is old news and this video SUPERBLY continues my education on CCC. Wonderful wonderful content...thank you very much.

[@PhilHalper1]

you are welcome

[@raijinmeister]

Simply wonderful. I will have to watch a couple times more though. :D

[@PhilHalper1]

Thank you so much for the kind words.

[@nalyuri9916]

Me: hey Entropy Entropy: yes? Me: could you take a hype? Entropy: ok Big Bang

[@Andres64B]

definitely a video I need to watch more than once.

[@PhilHalper1]

Thanks, hope you found it interesting

[@Andres64B]

skydivephil It's educational. It's inspirational. it's humbling. I can barely wrap my head around the concepts. The people that know the physics and mathematics behind it are amazing.

[@jonatanadolfsson]

@@PhilHalper1 i am on my second watch through :D

[@PhilHalper1]

@@jonatanadolfsson enjoy

[@TM-wk6kx]

I could listen to Roger Penrose softly babble at me about the origin of the universe any day, all day

[@ddddddd5425]

this seriously an amazing youtube channel. Thank you so much for the work you put into this.

[@JasonKale]

These docs are so great. Thank you for making them!!!!!

[@PhilHalper1]

Thanks for your kind words

[@forrestshawn3920]

I just wanna say, "another great theory and discovery claimed by Buddhism 3000 years ago that the world has neither beginning nor end at all but infinite start and end!" Namo Amitabha!

[@abhishek.chakraborty]

And, 1000s of years before Buddhism in its root i.e. Hinduism / Sanatana Dharma ! Infact, it even has multiverse theory ॐ 🙏

[@kevinb.8649]

I’m thinking the geometry of big bangs is more along the same as bifurcation events inside the Mandelbrot fractal. I think fractals are the reason symmetry is broken and allows for matter to exist after the annihilation event leaving ether positive negative or possibly both in the bifurcation splits inside the bifurcation splits. Cause entropy all ways goes from order to chaos same as seen before bifurcation events chaos leads to order but splits off into different emergent universes adding to the multiverse. I really think the secret is in this some where and we are missing it.

[@Grasuggan22]

I belive in this much more then the multiple worlds interpretation.

[@Endisupertramp]

Thank you for sharing this, it is a bit beyond my comprehension but nevertheless it is good to sometimes try to grasp the big concepts.

[@PhilHalper1]

thanks

[@jsb331]

Modern truth. Science and Spirit. They forgot consciousness and the time knife, and they don't understand the quantum physics involved that literally bridge the gap - time is static, the universe is infinite in variation, it's the Neverending Story and we're all the same eye on the same trajectory watching the back of our head spin as we coalesce into another form over and over. We are the black hole. We collapse into each other one by one in cyclic time. The singularity we orbit is the eye we share. Hello all you 'me's out there. Hope you're enjoying your personal experiences on the ride. See you in the next one. 😌👌

[@flachback673]

The egg

[@bugztanx]

Correct that is why we must be on good terms with the high vibrational beings when we meet our maker

[@bugztanx]

This would be the o lay way we escape this curse of death , we all must collectively ascend to our more divine spirits without the sins of this realm

[@hfc3249]

Wow! First time I see something that, in some way, Coincides with what I've Imagined for a long time now. I'm not a Scientist, but what my awareness has always told me that there's "something more than meets the eye"; my case: ("there's something more than meets the MIND")...🤔

[@f.d.english5080]

i like ponytails!

[@tdsdave]

@22:46 You can see this man is actually Galen Erso , look at the death star plans on the blackboard ;)

[@PhilHalper1]

Lol

[@maisiecarruthers695]

Up-a-creek don't know how I missed that it's obvious now you point it out lol

[@maisiecarruthers695]

@Up-a-Creek sorry

[@kunspitzz]

4:37 mind blown completely!

[@pinkfloydguy7781]

I don’t make a serious habit of thinking about this stuff in-depth, but in the Vedas and in Buddhist sutras there is the concept of a kalpa, which is the span of time between the birth of a universe and its next rebirth. And I’m not saying that visiting type 6 civilization aliens imparted this knowledge on the humans they visited somewhere in India’s late Bronze Age, but...

[@PhilHalper1]

arent they way to short these time spans?

[@pinkfloydguy7781]

skydivephil Buddhist cosmology has different ones, but they’re not well defined in length? A maha-kalpa I think is described as 10,000 kalpas one place and 84,000 kalpas elsewhere. I don’t remember how much a Priyapa-kalpa is or if I’m even spelling it right. But yeah, way too short. There’s barely enough time for sentient life to develop, and by the time you got people with telescopes, 95% of their observable universe is past their cosmic horizon!

[@pinkfloydguy7781]

skydivephil oh, if you’re referring to their specific time spans in human units, I don’t know. At least, no Buddhist sutra I’VE read has ever attempted to define one kalpa in terms of earth years. I’ve assumed that in general, they didn’t want to speculate and end up being proven wrong. But maybe some ancient Buddhist scholars did have specific ideas about how old the universe is. I have seen them talk about Buddhas who existed before Siddhartha Gautama as having lived millions of years before, so they didn’t have a concept of time as limited as some other spiritual texts that say it was all “created” like 10,000 years ago or something. But then judging by the text they also either overestimated the span of existence of humanity or they were talking about Buddhas born among sentient beings on other worlds, which are “innumerable in the ten directions”.

[@buzz-es]

Keep the math, I'll take the concept, the graphics and the red head.

[@brenttaylordotus]

We're gonna find out the Hindus and Taoists are right : D

[@PhilHalper1]

Well maybe maybe not, these are just proposals at the moment, none the models we have looked at in this series have overwhelming evidence in favour of the which is what we need to be sure they are right.

[@cango5679]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXLLdJxoZp6Hm5I and why would they not be? The Universe is electric in nature, without start nor end. In time mainstrean science will see what people in what now is India (and neighboring countries) knew millenia ago

[@ns88ster]

@@cango5679 You electric universe cultists are delusional.

[@cango5679]

@@ns88ster Okidoki.

[@RubelliteFae]

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