Beginner Riders Don't Understand these Group Ride Rules

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There is a right way and a dangerous way to riding with a group. Here we have some tips and tricks on riding with a group of motorcycles.
00:00 Ride your own ride
00:30 Plan a route
00:40 Group roles
01:09 Group size
03:05 Communication
03:43 Safe distance
04:15 Formation
06:36 Safety
07:51 Hand Signals
08:51 Final advice
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[@yammienoob]

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[@bowsama07]

Anyone else love doing the moto wave to the scoot bros? First day out 2023 and i aint see no other bikes while out but i saw a scoot bro and damn right i gave him the inverted duece right before the beans.

[@avispenner7347]

Everyone on 2 wheels with a engine. Sometimes I don't do motor waves. Like I put this Vance & Hienz exhaust on to wave at electric. He'll nooo hahaha😅

[@jauken83]

I'm a fairly new street rider, and the only guys I ride with are 2 long time friends who ride like I do. Unapologetically the "Versys 650 dads".

[@irishtrash5]

Dad, is that you?

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

the best bike is the one YOU have the most fun on!

[@dextzapf]

I was fond of doing group rides with my officemates pre-covid. But when covid started most of them left our company. And since then I prefer riding solo or two-up with my other half. You don't have to watch over somebody, just you enjoying the ride.

[@adventurevin7600]

Bingo

[@garret6121]

I'm usually in the sweep role. It just makes me feel better knowing that everyone in the group is wheels down. I can also call ahead if I see something that the rest may not see. I just personally enjoy being able to keep an eye on everyone and make sure everything is going good.

[@dougiequick1]

Sweeps are the heros if you ask me sacrificing enjoyment to make everyone else safer....I always feel guilty they shoulder such

[@vader5454]

I haven’t been on a group ride yet. They look like a lot of fun. Thanks for this information Yams, very helpful.

[@BlokeOnAMotorbike]

funeral escorts are a great intro - they're preorganised, fairly short rides (3-30 miles, rarely more), and other riders are always there to help you out. Routes are generally very easy (A to B then to C for the wake) and you often get a free beer or three for your trouble. Last rideout I went on we had a police escort, too, so yeah, those are always fun, the police stop traffic for the entire column until the sweepers pass them.

[@tobiascalvert3757]

I've ridden in group rides with anywhere from a handful of bikes to several thousand. I like group rides with people I know and trust. My 'club' will have a preride meeting to go over the route and identify the lead and sweep. We've done sponsored charity rides for kids that at least one of them was about 2000 miles in a weekend. I know this is not for everyone. But this was a great, informative video.

[@dougiequick1]

I guess that is not me at all I cant imagine the logistical problems of a whole bunch of riders begging for things to go wrong and then hurry up and wait like a military convoy of whatever

[@stugatz2664]

best group ride size is 6 riders... why you ask? well its an even number so its easy to maintain proper rider stagger formation. it keeps the group big enough to easily be seen, and not too big so for the most part you will all usually get through that left turn at the intersection thus improving the ability for the group to stay together and keep track of each other.

[@jim_gates]

Nailed it. I've been organizing sports car runs for 15 years and this guide hits all of the important points. Some of the details are different for autos but still relevant. I start the briefing and end the briefing, "This is not a race. This is a fun drive with your friends. Don't ruin it for everyone else. If you drive unsafe, you won't be invited on future runs."

[@dougiequick1]

I was in a Miata club very fun other than the whinners "you are going too fast!" We usually broke into sub groups with a spirited group up front and then slower segments bringint up the rear with ALWAYS a DOG SLOW part of the club we pulled over with motors off waiting and waiting and waiting lol But was okay once everyone knew their place...some newbies however did not listen and would NOT simply pull over and let people by .....DAMN annoying....yes not a race but sports cars are for FUN not a 100 mile parade in the middle of nowhere Thankfully we did have radios.,,,,,which is a whole other set of problems trying to understand WHO is talking to WHO

[@PeeFunk2008]

I had my first bike for only two weeks and went on a huge 3 hour group ride with around 40 harleys. I was the only one riding a G310R. Also by far the youngest. I don't think I would do that again even 2 years later. I did learn a lot though, brother!

[@dougiequick1]

So they had you red lining a bit?

[@znickell09]

4th I love this guy he held me convinc my dad to get me a dirt bike thanks man

[@znickell09]

And how do I know this isn't a scam?

[@BlueJ502]

Riding in a group of 20 is awesome plus it looks bad ass

[@dantownsend4246]

When we have 20 to 30 riders we split up to groups of 5 to 8 riders max. This avoids riders trying to run yellow lights to stay part of group.

[@andrewpeterson1551]

Hey, I am a Versys 650 dad and I can honestly say I definitely did not observe all traffic laws. Sold the bike to get a dual sport so old man conversion is currently happening.

[@r12rtpilot]

Great words, Noob!

[@treedogg]

Yammie. You said: riding on your group in your motorcycle at the beginning 🤣🤣🤣

[@psychofrank13]

Honestly, never been on a group ride. Good advice if I ever do tho lol

[@WallyST675]

I like randomly finding groups riding and following them far enough back that it's obvious I'm not with them.

[@avispenner7347]

But what do you get out of it then?

[@joshreyla7789]

In our group im always the sweep. Hahaha the most experience and the mechanic always leads the group

[@michaelmarkofski4073]

Squid energy can be multiplicative

[@akashinigami5921]

Hey there i was just wondering if theres any video where what beginners do that harms/hurts the gearbox mistakes

[@medyopasaway1995]

is buying 20k miles 2015 sportbike is good or nah? thanks for the answer Yammie!!

[@monstereng43]

I always try to "ride in a group" even if its only a single rider in front of me that i met up with on the road but its hard to do so when the person in the front likes to ride all over the road constantly left to right right to left.

[@BlokeOnAMotorbike]

is the other rider even aware that he's leading a pack at that point? sounds like he's not, and if there are only two machines in the column, well, either tail him or wave off. :)

[@vegasaerialmedia949]

Ride side by side, keep the pack tight and dont f^ck up.

[@murraehaynes3182]

The main thing to know about group rides is don’t go on group rides👍🏼

[@jawrazorback]

Nonsense some of the best rides I've had is group rides plus if you ride with friends close to your level of riding or better can help make you a better rider because they can help point out what you're doing wrong and if worst case scenario someone goes down you have buddies to stop, watch, control traffic and other to move your bike and to aid you or make a call on your behalf if it's bad enough...thankfully in the 2 times anyone has ever went down in a group ride with me it was very minor injuries or none and only brake levers or throttle stuck on their bikes. Ride safe have fun with friends stay shiny side up

[@murraehaynes3182]

@@jawrazorback do whatever works for you…I only ride with people I REALLY know and only a few at a time… my best “group” rides have been with my wife who rides her own bike. I’ve seen too many group rides where some of the participants forgot to leave their asshats at home…

[@jawrazorback]

@@murraehaynes3182 oh for sure I've dealt with beginner riders and asshat riders in a group myself before...I'd rather deal with a nervous beginner as they are more open to advice and capable of learning vs the asshat that's "too good" to learn or change their behavior by all means have a group of 3 or 4 well known riders or if you have the luck to have 10 or 15 well known riders like I do then that big group ride is amazing fun I try to ride with those at my level or above and before each group ride we know we will speed buts it's stated everyone ride your own ride don't try to keep up if you can't no shame no bashing cuz we all want to return home at the end of the day

[@EssentialComment]

What is it.... Ride Club?

[@MrRiddick225]

@@jawrazorback Try using some simple punctuation. Talk about run on sentences. How the F is anyone supposed to make sense of what you say?

[@BlueJ502]

Everyone that group rides should learn moto riding signals that's how you keep everyone safe my group does it everytime

[@camrenelia6878]

I’m a versyes 650 rider and I’m 20, but that bike really makes you feel like a dad observing every traffic law. But I kinda like it…

[@903lew]

It keeps you safe, never a bad thing. /Tracer700Dad, 36

[@Richaag]

Poor little Versys. Never gets any love.

[@clacks78]

30 hours into my riding journey and my advice, don't even think about a group ride until you are well comfortable with your bike and your ability. Went out with a fantastic and welcoming group of people but even though everyone tells you to take things your own pace, you feel bad when everyone in front of disappears into the horizon and you don't want to feel you are letting the people behind you down and then instead of paying attention to the corners you end up looking in your mirrors and trying to make time up on the straights and.... yeah..giving me anxiety just replaying that last ride in my head.

[@dougiequick1]

Get book "Total Control" maybe take a course and practice a lot....if you get left in the dust it probably means zero confidence in which case you dang SHOULD ride slower! Every single person has to put in the work and the time to safely get to that safe confident state

[@clacks78]

@@dougiequick1 Agreed with everything you say (And I have Lee Park's book), but my point stands.

[@jonathanglazer8446]

Riding in a group adds a safety factor due to the higher visibility over riding solo.

[@noahpowell7984]

Yammie, what happened to 7 mods to make your bike faster?

[@BlueJ502]

I agree with the first part

[@michaelmugo247]

Nice

[@RunSofrieRun]

whats the make and model of the helmet in the video? specifically 3:01s

[@wrench_boi]

The cardo sponsor reminded me that every time i would say hey cardo it thought i was saying ricardo. I do not have an accent

[@jimmytorello7041]

First, what up Noob!!!!

[@klintonwheeler7136]

Yam is great but what happened to everyone else?

[@Mad_AL]

I ride my own ride, and its pretty fast ;)

[@danny7954]

Hundreds of bikes in dozens of countries since 83. More Then 5 is a crowd

[@nducation8039]

3-4 seconds is like a 100m back, not even in the group.

[@keeganreese9002]

Hey Yammie, any idea where a guy could find a full face helmet to fit a 70cm head?

[@soulknight89]

Your best bet would be to find a local motorcycle shop or gear shop and try on everything. One brand 3XL could be a tight or loose fit compare to a different brand's 3XL.

[@itsmeagain1745]

Look for helmets with an in shop fitting service. Shoei helmets, for example, do different sized padding so the biggest size with some padding changes may work for you if the standard size doesn't fit.

[@LumiTheDragon]

Illegally early, not even 500 views

[@fordresurrectionest9556]

Yammie is right don't ride with a bunch of squids 😅

[@ricksilver7398]

Put your newest rider in front to set the pace

[@stugatz2664]

dude,,, yer green..... perhaps you just might want to get that checked out eh?🤣🤣

[@BlueJ502]

I really wish my group wore headsets. For example a couple of us fast riders left the slower riders behind and they got lost by the time we looked back it was to late they took a different direction

[@drainmonkeys385]

Maybe a group ride is your idea of your own ride.. group rides are fun..

[@Thang_MD]

Yo

[@molonlabe9602]

"on a group in your motorcycle"...lol.

[@Spacenigga69]

How tf do you measure distance in seconds 😂

[@The._.Grimace]

I don’t group ride, but if I did, I’d ride in back and do my thing. I would be staggered and when passing, one rider at a time. The rules are basic, the rest is up to me. 😊

[@Joe_shmoe1]

You sound like someone who should be riding solo lol

[@The._.Grimace]

@@Joe_shmoe1 Good observation. 😂

[@siddhantgosavi5281]

royal enfield are excessively powerful in india , now u understand 😭 , after your trip here.

[@olufemiadeniji7729]

Why Versys 650?! 🤣🤣🤣

[@AskYourPsychNurse]

The worst part of group rides is getting stuck behind a slow moving pack of old geezers on their 67hp Harleys.

[@dazzlabhp2835]

👍🏾

[@jeffpotter7656]

Better to be the lone wolf.

[@jimanders9971]

Only got to the advertisement.........then goodby.

[@atomictime9410]

If you never been in a ride with 4 or more people, avoid them. One or two friends to ride with is much better and safer. I prefer to ride solo. If you encounter a group ride stay back at least 50 yards.

[@cruze86]

What’s up noobs? 😎

[@chamamemestre]

I never hear on these advices to respect other vehicles. When bikes are cruising in groups, they make it virtually impossible to pass them in a safe manner.

[@movingnaturefilms]

If there are more than 10 people, someone is crashing.

[@ryanriegel7678]

That’s rarely true. I ride all the time in groups of 10 or more. We ride a tight formation either staggered with no more than one motorcycle length behind the bike in front of you or handle bar to handle bar and again no more than one motorcycle length between you and the bike in front of you. We do proper ride and safety briefs before the ride to include the route and hand signals to include how we will be changing lanes if necessary as a group ie the lead signals the lane change, then the tail gunner moves over first and slows down the the lead bike moves over and everyone else moves over in between the lead and the tail gunner.

[@movingnaturefilms]

@@ryanriegel7678 That's if you know the group. The random are the ones to worry about.

[@jawrazorback]

Rode with a group of 20 before on a 4th of July curvy mountain road fast ride ND only knew 4 of the guys out of 20 no1 crashed there was burnouts wheelie rev bombs knee dragging and fun all around that day everyone kept adequate space on the mountain running anywhere from 60 to 110 on a 35mph mountain road I stayed around the 80 to 90mph myself but riding with better riders thN yourself is usually safe as long as everyone understands to ride their own ride

[@that1DUDE620]

First😂

[@Shooterbud]

Day #3 of asking Yammie Noob to make scooter content

[@Boxer1250RT]

While it may be fun to ride in a Group, don't do it under no circumstances. Meet at the final destination and you'll get there safer.

[@awesomevirus9226]

Bro that 3-4 sec rule is the dumbest shit ive ever heard wth😂 1second at 65mph is 95ft.... 3sec is 285ft Its not a group ride if you’re 285ft between each rider my guy..... Maybe 60ft max at 65 but thats less than a sec I know i wouldnt ride with nobody that stays 285ft from me lol

[@porkoholic]

Go solo Screw groups