Beginner's guide to forehand topspin

[@roquelrosa]

It took me 7mons to dominate everyone at my job where I came in with 0 literally 0 experience playing TT and my strengths are all spins now, I thank this man and his sponsors for all the videos, truly couldn’t do it without them 😎

[@coachdewa5352]

I will try

[@sauravbanerjee3552]

Here to defeat my work friends as well XD

[@dmitryivanchenko7051]

Lol, i'm not the only one

[@ahmedmaghribi91]

Same here brother. Its just 4 months and i have already destroyed more than half of my collegues. Hopefully very Soon ill join my office's Pro's Division.

[@JinJeonPingPong]

Same for me. Aside from getting help from experienced players at my local club, KZbin coaches like Tom have been transformational in my development.

[@supbrotv]

4:11 Tom demonstrates how a Tyrannosaurus rex plays table tennis.

[@JinJeonPingPong]

I tried not to LOL when I saw this comment.

[@wongsiewkhim7255]

People say i play too fast

[@isadsyafaat7057]

@@wongsiewkhim7255 its just a way to say that ur too good for them XD

[@chhwang819]

Lol

[@nextlvlng]

As your coaching has improved, you have improved too, Tom. Good job.

[@TomLodziak]

Now that's an interesting comment. I have mixed feelings about this. I now coach 20 hours a week and only practice 1 hour a week. So I feel I have improved in some ways, but not in others as I am simply not practising enough. I plan to write an article about this for my website at some point.

[@nextlvlng]

@@TomLodziak I know what you mean. I guess I meant to say your form has improved. Whether that is translating to matches I don't know. But all the coaches you are working with and your new videos reveal more textbook form than say your 2017 or 2016 videos. Your form in this video is pretty intimidating other than maybe not being as low as a true pro. I know firsthand that coaching ruins your match play as you get too used to feeding students balls to hit rather than the balls to miss you should be feeding people in matches. But I think less trolls will come round making nasty comments about your form in this video (unless of course they are completely delusional and looking for a treatise on how to loop like Ma Long).

[@TomLodziak]

Ha! Yes, they are always my favourite comments "you are no good, you should try and play like Ma Long / Fan Zhendong". If only it was so easy! Thanks for your kind words. You have made me a happy coach this evening.

[@henriki8015]

@@TomLodziak I totally agree, I also think that your form has improved. If I compare the stroke from videos three years ago, this one lookes more fluid, compact and with more body movement :) I am pretty sure that teaching goes both ways, you get more self-aware on your own stroke and what's missing. Oh yeah, and your videos have improved too. You cover important aspects, always bring up important points and good demonstration. I like the way you communicate and explain. Good choice of training partnes too. Keep up the good work!

[@HKCanary]

Excellent video Tom, just the right length, clearly explained, very helpful. Just got myself a cheap robot for sole practice so that each time I play my much more experienced mate, I progressively get a few more points off him. 1,000 topspin forehands using your video as a guide tomorrow!

[@syedalikazim]

Thanks for this very informative video. I really like your instructions. Being a self-taught beginner/intermediate player I wonder if there a progressive sequence of shots one needs to master. I’m sure you have made videos about these, but it would be nice to put them is sequence from beginner to adv in a playlist. That would be really useful. Thanks once again for this.

[@sthirumalaiselvam6577]

hiii i am from india and i only see your tips for table tennis.....really now i have improved very much in my topspin ....once again thanks

[@anarmywhoblinkedonce]

I'm from India as well I usually don't go to yt to learn anything about tt bout my coach told me so I had to Thanks for the tips

[@wolfgangbecher4906]

Another great video, I am going to use this in my small beginners group I am coaching at the time. Those really are the basics, on the spot. Thank you very much for posting this.

[@alangoudie2299]

Another excellent video.When my grandchildren watch your videos & practice a lot they will improve much faster than I did. Many thanks.

[@Safal_Shrestha__]

Sir Tom Lodziac I'm from Nepal , seeing your tutorials here for first time. I'm now gonna see only your tutorials and promise to visit your website. You may or may not realize that you just gave what exactly a player trying to understand the ball's movements. Man I have no words for you to thank you. Thank you so much for everything.

[@TomLodziak]

Thanks for watching and your positive feedback. I hope my videos help in some small way. And hello from the UK to Nepal!

[@maxinegaming939]

Yes Bhai even I'm nepali Tara my shots are so bad it's been 1year 3 months

[@AdnanGusic]

This guide video drastically changed and improved my game. Thank you dude so much !

[@gurudathraok947]

Tom, Very nicely explained Top Spin. Thank you very much. I am your great fan and watching your videos daily and improved my game a lot. God Bless You.

[@robertplatttTT]

Good video, always good to go back to basics albeit being a backhand focussed player I find this type of shot more difficult. Keep up the great work Tom !

[@negshUK]

My coach used to make us run circles around school for raising elbow higher than shoulder on drives or topspin-loops and if our legs got too exhausted he made us stand in front of mirrors(TT gym shared location with dancing class) and practice proper body motion. He was a great coach I miss him a lot. He learned his coaching methods from Chinese btw.

[@JinJeonPingPong]

He sounds like an astounding coach. Thumbs up for the Chinese technique!

[@robvanhalen9696]

Thanks for this video, Tom. I've been playing for many years but I'm still struggling with consistency in my topspin shots. Great job pointing out the difference between returning a topspin ball vs. a backspin ball and showing the movement in slow motion. This will greatly help me get better at this, I'm sure.

[@devendrasahu9028]

Thank you so much! Its a wonderful guide on the techniques and basics of forehand topspin. 🤩👌👌👌👌

[@danteslegendario3957]

I'm going to train a lot, thanks for sharing.

[@xankrongaming5935]

Me watching this before going for trials of a tournament, i have played backhand my whole life barely used forehand and now when i am adding forehand it is extremely hard to adapt so this video helped a lot.

[@omkark6185]

Even my coach won't teach this much clearly,ur awesome

[@TomLodziak]

Thank you!

[@omkark6185]

Ur welcome 😘

[@omkark6185]

@@TomLodziak Sir,can u make a video regarding how to receive deadly service's

[@edwinbarreto58]

Once again, absolutely brilliant tutorial! Thank you

[@mayankgupta2937]

Finally, the best top spin video from you! Loved it

[@PawelTableTennisenglish]

Good video Tom. I like forehand topspin 🏓

[@marktannertt]

Awesome video Tom, definitely going to use this at my table tennis club in Keynsham! I'll make sure to post the results too 🏓 ✌️

[@TomLodziak]

Thanks Mark. Hope it's useful!

[@timepass4783]

What are the results?

[@idkwhatimdoingwithmylifehahaha]

WHERE ARE THE RESULTSSSSS

[@deepakaroramotivation4434]

So simple, yet so very effectively explained

[@girishagarwal7007]

Good one tom ,thanks for leading us

[@foxesruler]

Hey Tom! In one TT video EmRatThich tried to explain that acceleration at the point of contact with the ball is the most imporant thing to create stong and good stoke (also that spin is the most important of spin, speed and power). I understand it in general, but I would like you to clarify it for us - how (or whether) should we (beginners) apply and develop acceleration in top spin stokes. Much obliged!

[@TomLodziak]

Acceleration is an important aspect of topspin strokes. Definitely agree. But from my experience, the bits beginner's should focus on most to begin with is the brushing contact, bat start point and bat finish point. When you have got these consistent, then I think it becomes easier to add the acceleration to the shot. If beginner's focus too much on acceleration to begin with, they often find it hard to get the correct timing and brushing contact.

[@BossK908]

4:09 *cracks every bone in body*

[@TheSaggus]

I love how I read it as I saw it

[@pergunnarvikmjlhus3597]

I wonder if one of the reasons why I sometimes miss the table while doing a forehand top spin smash is because I smash it like a tennis player. I mean, with too much exaggerated and dramatic arm movements, like I'm about to punch someone. When I'm smashing the ball, I often lose my balance right afterwards, and stumble forward. I believe I'm too tense while smashing. You're doing the forehand topspin with very little arm movement and effort. Also, it feels scary to do it. It's like going all-in in poker. I have a tendency to just avoid the forehand and sort of scoop it straight upwards from almost underneath the table instead, but that also has to do with lack of confidence. I haven't played in like almost 20 years, so I've become too passive compared to in the past. Being on the receiving end of a top spin shot feels like such a surprise, because I have to react so quickly, and return it with pace on the ball. So I hate playing against people who know how to do a forehand topspin, because it makes the ball literally shoot straight towards my face. It's like manhandling a wild animal coming towards you.

[@JinJeonPingPong]

Never become passive as you're willingly giving the opponent the advantage. However if you are swinging so hard that you lose your balance, simply turn the intensity down a little bit. The ball is feather light and you can hit a winner at 75% strength. Don't forget that even with the smash, the table tennis stroke mechanics must be followed. The regular tennis mechanics won't allow you to recover fast enough.

[@Cleo-Sunshine]

Not sure if this is embarrassing, I think it is... I no longer think of myself as a beginner, yet I learned quite a bit from this video. (I beat everyone I played against just last Wed, some are rated over 700 on Ratings Central.) Thanks, Tom, you are the best!!!

[@palaniappanparamasivam7506]

Your demonstration is great as usual and this video is full package of all topspin and your helping the beginners a lot

[@phoenician3783]

You are a fantastic teacher Tom! Greetings from Arizona:)

[@TomLodziak]

Thanks for watching!

[@MarcelSM01]

Another great video Tom. Still struggling with topspin strokes but i think this vid will help.

[@TomLodziak]

I hope so. Let me know how you get on.

[@MarcelSM01]

@@TomLodziak I will let u know

[@timepass4783]

@@MarcelSM01 you did not let know till now

[@MarcelSM01]

@@timepass4783 indeed! Well it sure did help. Probably also my favorite stroke.

[@skippy7659]

@@MarcelSM01 Glad to hear you were still playing after 2 years! You still playing nowadays?

[@farhankhanzada855]

good good things all together , good coach u r, i have learnt many things from u.

[@Krishnakittu1000]

Hi, I am Krishnakanth from India. Initially, I started my table tennis with the basic bat then a coach given me a new setup. Blade : New Joola Rosio All round medium carbon blade FH: Jool Rakza 7 BH: Joola mambo C ( Both are his used rubbers) I felt very happy that time. After 2 years around, a friend said the rubbers are dead so he suggested Donic Coppa Jo gold (FH) and Donic Sonex jp gold (BH) so I bought them about 8 months back around but after that my game is not controllable and I felt rubbers are fast. And by mistake, my bat was fell down and it was broken a few days back so now again another friend who plays well, suggesting me to buy Stiga Clipper CR wooden blade. but I am feeling that old set up is fine which initially coach given so now i am planing to go for below set up again. Blade : Joola Rosio All round medium carbon blade FH: Jool Rakza 7 BH: Not yet decided I feel that I am an intermediate player. Could you please suggest whether i am going in correct direction or not..? And could you please advice which blade and rubber will be better for intermediate based on your experience? Thanks and Regards, Krishnakanth Pamu

[@maginatatsuya9987]

3:23 Most important tip

[@eduardoarosemena655]

Great tips Coach.

[@thepragashkannan]

Very nice and clear explanations. Thanks a lot.

[@saint9378]

Bro u don’t understand how much you help me. I got through 3 rounds of my school tournament before getting eliminated

[@shivamale1]

Your information is very informative and well defined, thanks.

[@achumb]

Excellent video. Thanks for posting

[@elekunjohn6505]

Thanks so much I really appreciate your kind tutorial

[@ramiromillanfraile7399]

I love this chanel and I love Tom! Thank you so much

[@BerkayAlperX]

Very systematic approach, and easy to understand. Keep up Good work, thx

[@johnyhawkahsan]

What a great explanation Tom! Thanks a lot man!

[@subscriberswithoutanyvid-so1kr]

People in my college have no idea what Is coming in their way.

[@isadsyafaat7057]

Get em good my man

[@roydondsa]

Gets destroyed instead

[@SmileyAnimationsYT]

I hope this helps everyone! 0:35 (The difference between a drive and topspin) 4:38 (Topspin vs backspin) 7:28 (Faster topspins) 8:25 (Topspin up topspin forward)

[@michaelmorley331]

Excellent..detailed..step by step lesson... Need more on arm grip orientation.. Your arm is straight from elbow..this is what I try to teach to simplify..many have hand twisted all manner of ways..I say simple..repeatable..disciplined stroke... Make as few variables as possiable.. Thank you

[@VijayKumar-xt1bo]

Fantastic, basics nailed Thank you Tom

[@angelpena9425]

Can’t wait to try these shots!

[@allenkeetch5375]

Excellent Tom thank you

[@anupamprudent]

great and very simple demonstration video.. thanks a lot.

[@sochivykhieng8805]

Very useful indeed, Coach Tom and thanks so much for always putting lots of efforts and time to produce this short video clips with your clear explanation and good demonstration..I like that you said "getting the basic right".. I have been playing many years but without professional coach and practices and so I dont get some of the most important basic right yet as you mentioned which is one of the most important strive to make us win a point.. I tried many times but still not be able to master this topspin stroke yet.. can you advise? Do I just need more practice or do something else differently? thanks,

[@TomLodziak]

It's difficult for me to say, without seeing you play. There could be any number of reasons why your topspin stroke isn't working. My best advice is to slow the shot down and just focus on bat starting point and bat finishing point and bat angle (as shown in the video). If you get these elements right, then you should be developing a decent topspin stroke.

[@TheYogiworld]

Thank u tom for wonderful videos learn lot about tt.... God bless u❤️❤️❤️❤️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@ThereShiv]

Many thanks for providing detailed explanation

[@amosliburdamosliburd5539]

Good straightforward detail.

[@RonnieColeman80]

I love this one, I really do.

[@marleiserashford396]

Thank you. Great lesson.

[@1MIOLLIONSUB]

Thanks

[@KenHarrington32]

Great video Tom, learned a lot from this matey. Thank you.

[@ldred2604]

Excellent explanations hats off

[@sudiptasarkar436]

Lovely demonstration

[@nyansoelwin]

Thanks for clear explanation

[@chasefire-o1n]

@Tom Lodziak Hey I'm an amateur trainer myself and train kids in my local club. Im just watching everything i can to get alot of information and new teaching techniques to teach faster and variable.Quality Stuff from, you right here. My favourite techniques for topspins teaching on backspin are: 1. Let them throwing Balls to me in( like Multiball) with topspin so they get the hand raquet feeling very fast instead of doing theirself multiball. 2. Let them spin a ball over the net rolling from the middle to edge of the tabl to get huge Spin and the feeling. ( Eli does this in a video too). 3 Repetition, Repetition.

[@TomLodziak]

Yes, I think having a few different ways of teaching people the same thing is useful, as you never know which method is going to stick with which individual. Once the player has the feeling of brushing the ball, then it becomes much easier to add in the more advanced stuff - legs, waist, wrist etc. Thanks for sharing your methods.

[@irikanji]

Technique is looking good tom!

[@TomLodziak]

Thanks! Fancy making some left-handed vids with me?

[@irikanji]

"A video showing what not to do".... !

[@bharath_v]

Thank You!

[@AdnanGusic]

Thanks!

[@TomLodziak]

Thank you very much! I really appreciate it.

[@benlidl]

Very helpful. Thanks a lot

[@user-vz3em7lj2b]

Hello sir thanks for your great lesson but one question why are you doing the forhand top spin in two way once you are bringing your hand downward and upward and the second one wich I familiar with you are heating the ball in a accurate way ?

[@ariosharifian6936]

Thank you so much

[@me.wienahto8162]

Thank you very much Tom , i start to play

[@bentonfraizer69]

thank you for the video

[@alexperalta8274]

Grrreat instructional video!!!

[@rrrprogram8667]

Great video.... When can we expect intermediate and advanced top spin video

[@gamerspiecies5499]

Thanks a lot! :D

[@renzorendon3218]

Nice video learn some tips to emprove my spin thanks

[@rithirongk]

thanks a lot, Tom.

[@tabletenniswithbrothers]

Thx bro

[@TNLOGESHGAMING]

Thank bro

[@alexmendelev]

Thanks a lot!

[@Mahesh.Thakor326]

Very nice n helpful.

[@fathullahmohammedi5976]

Which rubber do you use and can suggest me now i'm using stiga pro carbon ??

[@TomLodziak]

Hi, I use Joola Rhyzer 48 on FH, Joola Rhyzer 43 on BH and Joola Fever blade. Take a look at my website for my recommendations... www.tabletenniscoach.me.uk/best-table-tennis-bats-for-intermediate-players/

[@fathullahmohammedi5976]

@@TomLodziak thank you :) And keep up the good work. Great videos!

[@jacqueelcoat1203]

So helpful

[@topik208]

excelent video

[@sajidtadvi9262]

Very good video I have liked your all videos Now I play best in my school and colony you are very good teacher but a question? How to return forehand drive please make a video for this fast because I am not able to defend forehand drive and because of this I am losing my points daily in my school tournament please make video fast please! please! please! and once more thanks for your all video again you are best table tennis coach and teacher Tom Lodziak

[@TomLodziak]

The easiest way to return an aggressive forehand drive is with a block. I may a video about blocking some time ago, but the video is more focused on blocking heavier topspin. However, the technique is pretty much the same for defending FH drives. Here's the video...kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXO0c6qtarSgopI

[@nicolasrevilla1538]

great vid!

[@amv4449]

Any tell me please should I buy butterfly Wakaba 2000 or 3000 for an intermediate level

[@rejiyasaleem5726]

MR Baloch you must buy butterfly 2000

[@josepinchero]

with the forehand topspin in reaction to a backspin shot....are you using your wrist at all? or is it (always) rigid? if someone hits a hard backspin to you, if you had NO wrist involvement, you'd have to brush up from knee VERY hard. would it help to involve wrist at all? (same question for backhand topspin in reaction to backspin)

[@ogandreyka]

Thx for video

[@mzjango]

4:11 - man I love Jurassic Park

[@skuzzle]

First of all, awesome job on your videos!!! I recently started playing in a local table tennis club and your lessons and advise really helped me a lot. I have a question though as my coach told me while practicing forehand topspins to let the ball drop a bit after reaching its peak before contacting/brushing it. It seems to me I can generate a bit more spin with this kind of "late" contact but I got the feeling I might give the opponent too much time to get ready for my shot. So what would you say should the timing of the shot be? At the balls peak or letting the ball drop a bit? Many thanks in advance :)

[@TomLodziak]

Good question and there is no right or wrong approach. Some players prefer to let the ball drop a little and then play with heavy spin, but as you say, your opponent has a bit more time to react. I prefer taking the ball earlier - top of the bounce or as the ball is rising - so I can take time away from my opponent. For you, I would suggest trying both methods and see which fits best for your playing style.

[@Azraeluchiha999]

I try this but i feel like i'll use too much strength and that i lack control. i typically only use the backspin and drive for the attack, frontspin to return fast serves and back to block and push fast serves back. I'm trying to become a more complete player but i feel so incomplete without a forehand serve.

[@wytildlool]

You can use a normal forehand push shot serve

[@davidperezmarin8865]

Great

[@naderahmed7269]

Please make us a video of how we play with the penhold grip and be master with it

[@TomLodziak]

There is a really good penhold player I would like to make some videos with. Hopefully I can make it happen.

[@shoumilinath6840]

Sir, my opponent has a very fast serve and whenever I hit it it goes off the table.How can I control this. By the way thanks for your tips. Note-I am a beginner player

[@knzanderson]

I’m not the guy in the video but I think I might be able to help you. “Fast serves” are usually called in TT the long ones, I mean, the ones which bounces at the opponent’s side and at its second bounce, the ball goes off the table. It’s very common to new players receive those kind of services with their bat angled wrong. So well, in your situation, even if your not a new player, you just need to see if your opponent is putting top spin on his fast serve. If he is, just close your bat angle a little bit and block. Also, you can counter attack serves with top spin pretty easily.

[@TomLodziak]

Your opponent is most probably doing a topspin serve. Here's a video which explains how to return these serves...kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXzZm62JlMqLoZo

[@dianwilly7194]

Thankyou sir

[@orionilian]

Good video . Is there a slight 'bite' (elliptical shape) when we come into contact with the ball or do we have to make absolutely straight line contact? thanks

[@JinJeonPingPong]

Your bat angle should not change through the stroke (45 degrees closed for normal topspin). The trajectory from beginning of the stroke to the end should travel diagonal from low to high in a straight line.

[@nothingseriousman]

tom can u help with my school table tennis assignment pls its only 20 minutes

[@davidleric7666]

Thanks a lot,that helped me!

[@dineshreddy2008]

Thank u

[@MattCM89]

I cant seem to get this :/ my ball just flies over the top of table everytime....

[@bllathanbllatha9277]

teach us how to do pendulum and it's types