Beginning of Despair | Ichigo v Ulquiorra Begins! (Bleach Ep 269-270) - TF Reacts

[@youthinkso2695]

Considering the fact you all are up to date, I can comment this: Remember, White warned Ichigo, if he didn't wanna see him again, then he should not die. He also said the king and the horse can swap places at any time. Then Ichigo does die and White shows up again, taking over.

[@AJ-kt5zo]

💚🐴👑👻

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

That's dope af, so it was white who took over!

[@sherrinfordhope5744]

Kubo specifically wrote the Hueco Mundo arc to parallel the Soul Society arc but only in order to further differentiate them, most fans don’t look past the superficial surface level differences and simply call attention to the parallels. Some of these parallels and differences being Rukia and Orihime being taken to a different world, the differences is that Rukia was taken forcefully back to her world while Orihime left willingly to a world not her own, Rukia had been imprisoned Orihime was actually being treated like a guest for the most part, Rukia was to executed Orihime is actually free to move and was more used as bait. Just to make a few parallel differences in just one of the surface level similarities these 2 arcs share. Now mentioning that, Ulquiorra vs. Ichigo is a parallel to the arc ending fight of the Soul Society arc being Byakuya vs. Ichigo. One parallel and difference to mention is Orihime being a witness and wanting to interfere but not only knowing she might not really be of help if she jumped in, knowing Ichigo wouldn’t want her to jump in even if she could help. A difference is that when she sensed Ichigo could be in danger she jumps in as fast as she can when in the Soul Society arc she only showed up at the end of that fight, because in this one she had a bad feeling for the ending.

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

Love this comment Sherrinford! As you said i's easy to see the similarities and is harder to dive deep into the differences. Love that you gave us some examples, especially the Inoue on towards the end. She does end up helping out more this time around! Hope you continue to enjoy our reactions to come!

[@polygon2745]

Whether Ulquiorra's Segunda Etapa is enough to make him the strongest espada is a controversial topic that's been debated in the community since these chapters first serialized. Consensus is split with more casual viewers thinking he must be the strongest, while those who are into power-scaling think his rank doesn't change, or that he's 3 at best.

[@sherrinfordhope5744]

Not helping matters is the real number 1, the reveal number 0 as a ranking and their lack of any special power, Baraggan’s ability despite his ranking, and the argument of whether or not Aizen truly didn’t know about Segunda Etapa. At the very least, I believe he surpasses Espada 3 and the fact Baraggan listened to Aizen means he wasn’t confident his power would work on him. And at the very least the current Espada 0 is worthless.

[@sephonium]

@@sherrinfordhope5744 Barragan power not working against those with higher reatsu was pretty much confirmed in the novels, but there if I remember correctly it was said that cfyow Zaraki can withstand it.

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

Can definitely see how this whole power scaling of the espadas could be thrown around in different ways. First they didn't even reach there full potential so that makes it hard as is. Then you all mention the other factors that take a part in the debating. I (Savvy) would like to think he was the strongest because Ichigo (The MC) was faced against him. As well as Ulquiorra having the super regeneration.

[@marcelyuzuki6376]

With the story and that Aizen wanted ichigo to fight Ulquiorra and be afterwards his oponent show that Ulquiorra is the strongest.

[@dimensionvisitor7689]

actually, usually it's more casual viewers that think segunda etapa ulquiorra is not the strongest while people that are somewhat competent in power scaling usually think him and yammy are the strongest

[@gabem5340]

his shoulder piece is actually part of his bankai, all of ichigos clothing is.. notice when he changes form his clothes do as well. thats why that one piece is still there bc his bankai is in his hand still.

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

Ahhh it was explained in the comments before that his clothing reflects what percentage his Bankai is at. Good little detail for that piece still hanging on there!

[@Crunchysopa52]

Gran Rey Cero was done by Grimmjow earlier under the Las Noches ceiling, which he wasn't supposed to do so he broke Aizen's rules, but that's it unfortunately Kubo didn't have any of the other Espadas use theirs smh lol. Gran Reys require an Arrancar to mix a bit of their blood, in cut be from a simple cut even, with their spiritual pressure to pull off. Cero Oscuras all the other Espadas can, if they wanted to, use as well & sadly no other Espada used it smh lol Since y'all are obvs already in TYBW I can say all these things as y'all indeed saw every Espada's fights a hot min ago. in the Bleach Novels post TYBW there's some certain Arrancars, I can't reveal who exactly yet, that do bust out their Gran Rey & it's very powerful lol

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

So the Grand Rey Cero is the strongest? Even stronger than Cero Oscuras? It was really dope seeing GOATjow use his. Sad that Kubo didn't make any of the other Espada's use theirs though. Smh indeed. And once we catch up fully we would definitely love to read those and see who you are talking about! I (Savvy) just thought that Grimmjow mixed his blood because he was a lower seated Espada and that he needed to while the others didn't. Glad you commented that because that makes the Grand Rey even cooler.

[@Crunchysopa52]

Kubo did answer in a recent question asked on his website earlier this yr if a segunda etapa/2nd release was possible for the other Espadas. he said yes a 2nd release form was possible at least albeit it didn't happen obvs smh lol. so let's say if current Harribel, the 1 in TYBW, perhaps trained more well a Segunda Etapa for her isn't impossible at least. tho Kubo didn't say how hard or not it is to obtain. anyways hope this was interesting/informative lol

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

That'd be so cool to see some Arrancar's get to that level! It's basically their Bankai if so. Would be straight 🔥🔥🔥.

[@gralegambino1433]

Andrew be like ….. Ulquiorra can’t be that strong 😂😂😂😭😭… lol just messing wit ya great reaction

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

Idk but he was on one for saying that earlier.🤣

[@juliusmabry4839]

Oh fuck yeah

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

This fight was absolutely crazy!!!

[@youthinkso2695]

YES! YES! YES!

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

HEAT INCOMING 🔥

[@Crunchysopa52]

Y'all were really quite on the money in the end with your ep thoughts saying White would come out to help Ichigo lol as ya it did happen. remember when Ichigo trained with Visoreds White told him "if you really wanna control my powers make sure you don't die before the next time I come back" well obvs Ulquiorra did slump Ichigo here & then you saw the power of White unleashed & he completely dominated Ulquiorra & in fact it's even more 1 sided/uncensored in the Manga how fucked up Ulquiorra got lol. Segunda Etapa by Ulquiorra is impressive he unlocked it however he also said "I've never showed the form to Aizen" but he doesn't know if Aizen knew about it anyways.. only that he didn't show what it looked like. Aizen gets his intel lol that's all I will say lol btw TYBW Kenpachi, the 1 that got folded by that fake Yhwach Sternritter y'all saw in Yama's bankai ep.. has as much spiritual pressure/power as White with long orange hair etc that killed Ulquiorra. during the timeskip he got stronger so ya that's where's he at rn. but mans can still get stronger!

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

So Aizen possibly knew own about this 2nd form!? And he still put him 4th!? (Technically 5th lol) Also White is Goated, easily one of my (Savvy) favorites in the series. He's just soooo cleaaaan lol. He don't give a fuck and is a savage. I really like how he wants to bring up Ichigo and make him stronger because he doesn't want to be ordered around by someone who is weak you know or at least that's how I see it. The pop figure that sat in front of me kind of gave us an idea what was going to happen. We just didn't know if that was going to happen next episode or like 50 episodes from now or when he fought Aizen or something. Glad it ended up happening next episode though🔥🔥🔥! Also going back to what I said about White. Ichigo v Grimmjow was a fight between the two characters of course but Ichigo has White with him at all times right? Back then I swear I heard white's voice coming out a little, like I felt that White wanted to fight Grimmmjow and Grimmjow wanted to be "King" you know what I mean. I might be creating it in my head but I felt like It was 2 Hollows fighting for supremacy. Even though it was Ichigo fighting to win/protect his friends and Grimmjow also had his reasons.

[@shadi6484]

are you guys watching both bleach and tybw together?

[@juliusmabry4839]

I think they recorded these relatively quickly, it’s the editing and stuff that puts the release on a schedule. i think at the beginning of TYBW they said they just finished watching the Fullbring arc

[@TalentedForeverOrg]

So we finished OG Bleach about 3 weeks ago so all of these are pre recorded. So when you watch our TYBW reactions you don't have to worry about spoiling us for OG Bleach because we've already finished it. Just wanted to get the TYBW reactions out to you all as soon as possible. Go to our TYBW Episode 1 description for a little more explanation

[@AJ-kt5zo]

@@TalentedForeverOrg Makes you think or wonder how 🔋 powerful were the ancient hollow or Espada that existed before the ones now.