Behind The Fake Innocence of Coquette

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Juno Moth

Juno Moth

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@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
Sorry for all of the mispronouncations. When I get tired my accent slips out :( ANYWAY, subscribe, and let me know what other aesthetics you'd like me to cover^^ ➛ join my PATREON for 1,5$: www.patreon.com/user?u=67125734 ➛ my tumblr: www.tumblr.com/blog/junomothart
@colindunnigan8621
@colindunnigan8621 17 күн бұрын
There was an edition of Lolita published with the image of a middle-aged man on the cover, staring creepily out at the reader. I have to admit I admired the publisher's honesty. Maybe they should put the book in the Horror section in bookstores.
@AsclepiusHoe
@AsclepiusHoe 9 күн бұрын
I prefer that version of the cover tbh. I got to read the book at the library and I couldn't even get past the prologue and the first chapters--I was so disgusted by how heavily pronounced Humbert's fantasies were, I couldn't continue. How do people look at this and go "Ah, sexy. Ah, romantic"??? 🤢 Kudos to Nabokov, this was one of the few books that left me so disgusted I dropped it totally.
@aelainem
@aelainem 19 күн бұрын
I fell into this around 2011/2012 and almost lost my life to a man who groomed me after I asked him for a place to stay when I was homeless. This was at a time where I should have been preparing myself for the "real world," and I wasted it on hating myself while seeking validation from literally everyone else. This led to an obsession with thinness, food, and "embodying the aesthetic" to a point where I was sick and having panic attacks about my own body and status multiple times a day. I wasted time hoping that if I was fragile enough, someone would take care of me. I've spent my 20s finding strength, being honest with myself, and learning from my mistakes. This is an incredibly serious topic, and I hope that less and less girls fall for this trap.
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I'm so sorry that you suffered, and I'm incredibly glad to hear you're in a better place now. You're right, these kinds of aesthetics are traps, and like your story shows, they can be incredibly dangerous. Once again, thank you for commenting and sharing your story, and best of luck to you in your journey of healing. Take care.
@aelainem
@aelainem 19 күн бұрын
@juno_moth I appreciate you saying that, thank you! Life is much better now, and I pray the same and better for anyone else who is caught up in this sort of thing. Your content is great for opening up these conversations :) Dziękuję!
@Burnthiswitch
@Burnthiswitch 17 күн бұрын
Sound like you were going through a lot. Hope you've found a safe and comfortable place to stay without any creepo's wearing the mask of kindness around. Thanks for sharing your story and take care.
@BunnyRot439
@BunnyRot439 2 күн бұрын
This is why I prefer Morute. It's the doll like aesthetics without removing the teeth of thosr who enjoy it so much. Of course there is still down sides, but that's with any aesthetic when you center yourself too deeply in it where you end up chasing your tail trying to be something your not. I'm sorry what you went through of course. I hope this didn't come off as devalidating or anything like that. I'm just trying to offer an alternative aesthetic that's not as vahnerable. If it came off wrong, sorry. I struggle properly relating to others with my words even if I do empathize because of my autism.
@aelainem
@aelainem 2 күн бұрын
@BunnyRot439 Not invalidating at all! You offered a nuanced position to aesthetics as a whole and gave an example of one that isn't so toxic 💙 I hope your comment opens someone's eyes to a style they didn't know about previously! I am also autistic and know it can be difficult to anticipate people's reaction to our wording (especially in text!), but you did great :)
@drowsy7921
@drowsy7921 18 күн бұрын
I still wear the clothes, but I shy away from labelling myself as coquette due to the associations talked about in the video. In my own experience, I don't want to be "seductively innocent", I just want to dress like a princess because I've always loved fairy tales. I feel shame around wearing bows, frilly dresses and stockings because I am worried people will associate me with the darker things discussed in this video.
@nahlakeepsyappin
@nahlakeepsyappin 18 күн бұрын
same here!! i was heavy into the coquette/nymphette scene on tumblr in the early 2010s (i even had a pretty popular blog). it leaves a bad taste in my mouth looking back on the romanticized grooming and abuse in that community, as well as the lack of education on it. i was a little girl with no friends and not much familiar love. i latched onto the first guy to call me pretty, doing ANYTHING i could to keep him. i'm 20 now, i still love the fashion and vibes. but my rose-tinted glasses are off, i know that things happened to me.
@nahlakeepsyappin
@nahlakeepsyappin 18 күн бұрын
p.s.: more of a lil inside joke, but my senior quote was "lolita is my favorite psychological horror." i even did a homage to dolores on picture day as well
@lamorthonyfairyfriend4082
@lamorthonyfairyfriend4082 18 күн бұрын
If only people would stop thinking we’re trying to find someone by dressing cute. Literally, I have never wanted to be with some less. I feel better dressing how I like seeing others dressed.
@yumechii6241
@yumechii6241 17 күн бұрын
That's why i'm slowly morphing into morute, it looks cool and i believe i can express my weirdness more. Though it's really upsetting that one can no longer dress in frills, bows and pinks without having this label on them. (I feel personally repulsed by those who claim that girls who like to dress like princesses want to attract p3dos, never heard anything more absurd and foul).
@raquimsuil7127
@raquimsuil7127 17 күн бұрын
Im very sorry for yoy; that you Can be who you are have to be horrible
@r3bma
@r3bma 17 күн бұрын
I hate it when cute and seemingly innocent aesthetics and things are used in the wrong way and it pretty much ruins it.
@Arbysroastbeefjuice
@Arbysroastbeefjuice 15 күн бұрын
I hate it when men have to ruin something that should be innocent. Especially old men
@duhitzpearl
@duhitzpearl 16 күн бұрын
As someone who just likes coquette for the aesthetics it was really alarming and concerning to hear the origins and things associated with coquette. Hope ppl stay safe out there
@greenghoul157
@greenghoul157 16 күн бұрын
Whether someone views Lolita as a tragedy about an evil groomer or a tragic love story says a lot about them
@Daphne12367
@Daphne12367 12 күн бұрын
To me its a horror film/book
@CorinaSha
@CorinaSha 18 күн бұрын
His book made me sob and nearly vomit. I had no idea how anyone could possibly read it and enjoy it for the abuse it’s describing….he was such a good writer and people have twisted it into something completely disgusting
@DeadVoxel
@DeadVoxel 17 күн бұрын
I'm more surprised at how people don't see anything wrong with the content of the book, as if it's a normal thing and even go as far as romanticizing it. The story is clearly told from the POV of the abuser, of course in his eyes there's nothing wrong with what he's doing. It's so sickening This just goes to show that people clearly didn't read into the book, and possibly have a really wrong and twisted mindset to begin with... I can't imagine anyone in their right mind genuinely not seeing a problem with it. Or I guess unless this kind of mindset has been engraved too deeply into the society that people assume it's normal, which is even bigger of a problem
@Aphelia.
@Aphelia. 19 күн бұрын
I think what coquette is for young girls is similar to what redpill is for young boys: a poison we shouldn't ignore. Thank you for covering this very serious topic.
@isabelcore
@isabelcore 19 күн бұрын
Omg such a good point
@pasolini-wx4ho
@pasolini-wx4ho 12 күн бұрын
WHAT how a STYLE is similar to red pill Y'ALL ARE CRAZY
@isabelcore
@isabelcore 12 күн бұрын
@pasolini-wx4ho we're not talking about the style, we're talking about the principles behind it that stemmed from nymphet etc. Did you not watch the video?
@pasolini-wx4ho
@pasolini-wx4ho 12 күн бұрын
@isabelcore There is no such thing, and even if there is, it is a form of expression of the fragility of these girls. Which is totally understandable because femininity has traditionally always run around this
@isabelcore
@isabelcore 12 күн бұрын
@@pasolini-wx4ho did you watch the video?
@Cereja-Lua
@Cereja-Lua 19 күн бұрын
I'd like to point out here that Lolita, as JAPANESE subculture, has nothing to do with the novel, and was a rebellion by Japanese youth to sexual objectification. In fact, kawaii cute at large was a rebellion against the Japanese norms of adulthood, marriage, and family-rearing (and capitalism too!). But, like anything, the original meaning of it was stripped of its original context andultimately bastardised. Which, to be fair, is what happens to a lot of these "-cores", unfortunately. That being said, a video on Lolita subculture (and its offshoots like Gothic, EGL, Sweet, etc.) would slap!
@lyricalhammi
@lyricalhammi 19 күн бұрын
as a sweet lolita it's literally so annoying when i tell ppl abt my fashion and they're like "that has something to do with the book right?" as if homonyms aren't a thing T_T
@intrusive-th0t
@intrusive-th0t 18 күн бұрын
It does have to do with the book though. “Lolita” is not a Japanese word… it came from the book
@intrusive-th0t
@intrusive-th0t 18 күн бұрын
@@lyricalhammiwhere does the name come from then?
@_kaleido
@_kaleido 18 күн бұрын
@@intrusive-th0t A common theory is that the term was originally used as an insult and people in the subculture reclaimed it for their own, similar to how the subculture names "punk" and "emo" came about
@RozenGermain
@RozenGermain 18 күн бұрын
@@lyricalhammi Heck the name Lolita itself predates the book entirely! Not to..... mention my attitude towards coquette historically is that it was a version of Lolita that was accessible to western normies and nor enthusiasts of the alt fashion being appropriated. But now I can tell there's a good argument it can be seen as exactly that but for Jirai Kei.
@Endophiliac
@Endophiliac 19 күн бұрын
In middle school, I was totally consumed by this aesthetic. I was very young, and was groomed by a man who was a decade older than me while at camp. It caused me to romanticize my situation, even missing him when I left. It made my self image and disordered eating habits even worse, even loosing 10 pounds in 5 days because of him. He had given me special attention, treating me like the little girl I always wanted to be. I’ve healed a lot since then, though it never fully goes away like all trauma. A friend at the time told me I was so lucky, since other girls thought he was attractive. What bothers me is that he was engaged when it all happened, probably married by now too. I just wish I had found the strength to say something soon enough, and I hope people going through something similar find it sooner than I did ♡.
@Endophiliac
@Endophiliac 19 күн бұрын
Also one of many things I dislike about the aesthetic, is the name itself. The definition of the word is, essentially, a woman who flirts to only garner the attention of men. That in itself is already alarming.
@aelainem
@aelainem 19 күн бұрын
@Endophiliac I am so sorry you went through that, friend! You are right that the trauma is never completely gone. It can take a lot of time and hard work to get to a place where we can fight for our own peace. I am so proud of you for choosing yourself! Thank you for sharing your story, and I hope the universe blesses you tenfold 💙
@toby4305
@toby4305 19 күн бұрын
This video describes perfectly why croquette always made me uncomfortable! It's not an accident that whenever I find a croquette blog they almost always have other fingers in thinspo, suicide ideations, the teacher crush community, etc.
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
i'm glad my research was useful to you. And yeah.. there sadly is a huge overlap with wierd communities
@melissaanthonyxb2730
@melissaanthonyxb2730 19 күн бұрын
Whenever I read croquette it made me think of them little crispy things
@KittyKatt_Luna80s
@KittyKatt_Luna80s 18 күн бұрын
​@melissaanthonyxb2730 They are! It's Coquette.
@Enirahtak8
@Enirahtak8 18 күн бұрын
Croquettes make me uncomfortable if I eat too many of them in one go... XD XD In all seriousness though, I am genuinely worried that a trend like this is still so popular, very worrying indeed.
@BunnyRot439
@BunnyRot439 2 күн бұрын
I like girly lacey aesthetics, but am more morute. It's the girlyness with more of an emphasis on female empowerment. It's gritty, edgy, & unapologetically imperfect. There is always a bad side to any aesthetic depending on how people engage with it, but it tends to scare off the creeps pretty well. Especially the vintage gas masks & shit like that. XD
@sillygoose3871
@sillygoose3871 18 күн бұрын
i feel like rebranded coquette (vs. the 2010s one) has a bigger emphasis on luxury and name brands too like dior, chanel, Burberry which is an interesting evolution
@thylascene
@thylascene 17 күн бұрын
yo, this reply here has nothing to do with the video, but i like ur LPS profile picture :3
@DeadinsideCastlevania648
@DeadinsideCastlevania648 6 күн бұрын
It seems to be a reflection of how our culture has shifted a little. I feel like over the last few years people have become more obsessed with designer stuff (Well, I'm 15 so maybe it's just me growing up😂)
@MandyCruz-i1y
@MandyCruz-i1y Күн бұрын
This specific style of coquette seems very 'former private school new yorker who lives on coffee and cigarettes and glamorizes abuse a little too much.' its easy to recognize them, with their love of Lily Rose Depp... Lanas aesthetic isnt quite like this though. It's odd how they've formed this specific aesthetic through her.
@jocelynecupcake
@jocelynecupcake 18 күн бұрын
Can clothes just be clothes? Can we wear clothes we feel confident in without being associated with attracting creeps? I love the innocent and feminine look but also a bit of the... slightly sexy looked combined. I just want to feel pretty. A guy can find that look attractive without being a creep too. Like, I just like the fashion, I don't want the coquette style to be associated with those dark things.
@lepetitmonster8737
@lepetitmonster8737 12 күн бұрын
The main problem with coquette is not the dress style itself, but as an aesthetic, which sells a specific philosophy and lifestyle to girls and young women. I don’t get why someone has to call it coquette just by dressing cute. You don’t have to label your personal style. If you don’t follow the coquette aesthetic, but your personal version of cuteness and girlhood, why call it so? Isn’t that just your own style?
@Cyanide_Seller
@Cyanide_Seller 12 күн бұрын
Depends on the type of clothes ig
@asase2091
@asase2091 12 күн бұрын
there’s nothing wrong with the clothing style itself, it’s cute, but unfortunately, it has gathered these uncomfortable associations because a lot of its enjoyers endorse these attitudes. just wear what you want at the end of the day it’s no big deal
@Em_Elizabeth
@Em_Elizabeth 7 күн бұрын
I remember talking with a Catholic school teacher and she and her class were on a field trip and this guy made a comment about how beautiful they looked in their modest plaid uniforms and no makeup, very natural. He even said he hoped to marry one of them someday. She made it sound like a compliment but in retrospect it seems a bit creepy. Not sure what the guy's age was but these were high schoolers.
@DeadinsideCastlevania648
@DeadinsideCastlevania648 6 күн бұрын
Them, don't call it coquette and live in that aesthetic
@uwouldntknowthem
@uwouldntknowthem 19 күн бұрын
The moment I noticed coquette, I knew what it was. My impression of it has always been eerie, covered with a thin layer of pink, translucent girlhood. It is delicate and alluring, while an axe with a bow on it is hidden behind a teenage girl's back, blood smeared on her shoes. A pure white lamb, yet she's sharpened her teeth. Offering herself to the wolves to protect the innocent ones behind her. She sharpened her teeth to bite back, but her efforts were in vain as, behind her, the flock followed, unaware that they were being led straight to the wolf den.
@gabrielbuyk5992
@gabrielbuyk5992 18 күн бұрын
i first learned the word coquette from a little children's book i have. it's about cato the coquette cow who is very proud about how pretty she is. so i always thought coquette meant feeling proud about your feminine looks.
@DeadVoxel
@DeadVoxel 17 күн бұрын
Honestly, that's what it should have been
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 17 күн бұрын
@@DeadVoxel in a better timeline it probably is
@DeadVoxel
@DeadVoxel 16 күн бұрын
@@juno_moth at least we can hope to make it better in this timeline 🤞
@Marie-om7to
@Marie-om7to 15 күн бұрын
In French, coquette indeed means to present well in a feminine way. When I was a kid, people would tell me I am coquette whenever I would put an extra effort to my outfit (generally a shiny dress or a bit of make-up). For a grown-up, we would say she's coquette if she's always seen wearing make-up and perfume when going out... But it is not necessarily attached to the particular aesthetic presented in this video 😊
@lepetitmonster8737
@lepetitmonster8737 12 күн бұрын
@@Marie-om7towe have a literal translation of that word is Spanish! Coqueta. It means when a girl/woman puts extra attention on her appearance for certain occasions. Maybe to attract male attention, going on dates, or just going out in general. It’s like being charmingly feminine. It’s normally considered a positive adjective. Also normally applies more to adult women dressing like fashionable adults!
@edamamame4U
@edamamame4U 19 күн бұрын
When I was in high school many years ago, I was into the "Gothic Lolita" fashion scene that was popular amongst alternative Japanese youth and eventually made its way to other parts of the world via the emo and other alternative music scenes. The movement was born out of the Japanese visual Kei scene (think 80s hair metal bands meets kabuki theater) and was originally a way to subvert gender norms and a way to empower women. It was never intended to have anything to do with the novel. Unfortunately, I feel like it has been bastardized in the U.S. and the U.K.
@ithseem
@ithseem 19 күн бұрын
Creeps stop sexualizing minors/ childlike qualities Challenge Impossible
@honorabel
@honorabel 19 күн бұрын
I love how at 7:20 the background music starts to distort, it matched your tone shift from listing relatively innocent stuff to much darker and disgusting topics.
@starcheryy
@starcheryy 18 күн бұрын
i feel like one thing people seem to be misunderstanding in the comments is that hyperfemininity itself is not bad - the ribbons , pinks , whites , frills , laces and all arent the bad things , but it's the associations the overlapping of the 34t1ng d!$0rd3rs , the romanticisation of being groomed and manipulated is the disgusting aspect it's such a shame how a woman talking about her experiences of being exploited has led to a whole chain of young girls purposely letting themselves succum to the patriarchy in hopes of fulfilling their sick fantasies ... but it's not them to blame , it's the patriarchy - the consistant sexualisation of innocence , women , and trauma i love hyperfemininity but i hate the connotations , though all the fashion does link back to lana del rey ( her songs about her explotation ) , it's such a shame that such innocence is now associated with sexual appeal ?! either way , this video is exploring everything perfectly , i'd say you were very respectful but realistic ( i genuinely love the way of your words )
@ViolettaBlume
@ViolettaBlume 16 күн бұрын
For a long time i didnt want to admit a correlation but i was the classic stereotype of a girl liking this aesthetic even before tumblr existed and throught all the different times and names. I was left by my father, unloved by my narc mother, bullied by my classmates, hated by adults for my neurodiversity. Mom said i am unlovable, boys said they vomit when they think of me. I just imagined being pure and innocent and perfect for someone to love and desire me. To care for me but also deeply desire me. Because i had two wounds, not being loved and cared for by parents (also teachers ignored the bullying or even took part in it, noone ever protected me) but also growing up thinking i was disgusting and undesirable. Somehow this fantasy fulfilled all my deepest desires how i want to be seen. Also during my childhood people had often said that i was too loud and too expressive and just "too much". That combined with also being labelled too big and wide, made me idealize being so small and cute and never too much. Delicate also so that pepople would feel the need to finally protect me. And i had this fantasy of being with a really adult man to whom i am the most perfect, cute little being, that he would protect, never leave, love so much and that at the same time would be the most desirable becsuse from his point of view noone (his age) could compete with me (so again i was special and he would never leave me (in my fantasy)) The older i got the less i could fulfill the ideal while at the same time realizing more and more that this is not love and also how sick it is, that this is an ideal desired by many men, being like a doll, an object for them that fullfills their narcissistic fantasies, the sick s-ualization of childlikeness, and also on a societal level how they still push us women into this submissive position with these type of ideals and also the cruel ageism. Deep down i had already known a lot of that but for my whole life i kinda believed that this is the only option i have to be loved. Only feminism and body positivity, neurodivergent positivity, and also lgbtqia+ positivity, even if i am cisstraight, and a lot of therapy, helped me to really start to believe that i deserve to be loved just the way i am. I deconstructed many of the toxic ideals and tight boxes. Traits that society sees as not feminine for example dont make me less feminine. I am what i identify as. I can be multiple things and a mixture and have my own definition of it. I had always been lovable from the day i was born. I dont need anyone to love and desire me in order to feel like i have a right to exist in this world and take up space. But also people exist who really love me as an equal and as a whole and realistic person. And even if it seems more boring and is also not so fantasylike, this kind of love is real love that really warms and heals my heart and doesnt leave this strange aftertaste like the other one. Edit: i also wanted to say this was a very good video! I subscribed i have already seen you covered other aesthetics i am into and i cant wait to find the time to watch them.
@madeleineanne6361
@madeleineanne6361 15 күн бұрын
To be fair, it’s frustrating that soft colors, frills and typically feminine clothing are now often automatically associated with children’s fashion, when historically these were trends aimed at adult women (see the 18th century for example). I love dressing in feminine clothes, as it makes me feel the most beautiful and true to myself. It’s sad that some people use this aesthetic to promote such unhealthy behaviors :((
@therealhanjisung.ayedomino
@therealhanjisung.ayedomino 16 күн бұрын
as a kpop fan, there are idols that i am genuinly scared about. i remember reading about Twice being starved and bang chan of skz having to sneak them food. although many idols have healthy bodies, that usually means they're gonna be fat shamed by korean fans
@KittyKatt_Luna80s
@KittyKatt_Luna80s 18 күн бұрын
I was 19 when I met my ex-fiancé. He was 6½ years older - took advantage of my naïvete, and over a near-decade put me through Heck. Now, over 10 years later, I am slowly getting my confidence back. I'm not a naïve teenager anymore, but a woman that is seeing the world for what it is. Whether I gain a new partner or not, I want to avoid being taken advantage of again.
@julie-zmb
@julie-zmb 14 күн бұрын
I’m proud of you
@PsychedelicCharm
@PsychedelicCharm 19 күн бұрын
Do dark academia next. There's a lot of discourse surrounding it, and I feel like it needs to be talked about more.
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
I'll add it to my list! thank you for your suggestion
@jooniemoonie1531
@jooniemoonie1531 14 күн бұрын
As someone who really do enjoy the coquette aesthetic trends, it honestly messed up that creep like those people will always make a bad image on this soft aesthetic and romanticizing any of their fcked up disgusting fantasy that ruined this aesthetic . Is it wrong for us to enjoy the coquette aesthetic trends, is it wrong for us to dress in a pink or white lacy dress or embrace our soft feminine side without feeling judged by others , is it wrong for wanting to be our true self. No, is not wrong for us to enjoy the coquette aesthetic. Why can’t people just let us enjoy the coquette trends without fetishizing or sexualizing us woman. We’re not doing this for “men attention”- we’re only doing this to enjoy ourselves 🫶🏻
@TacticalForest
@TacticalForest 19 күн бұрын
That thumbnail art is really beautiful 😭
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
I'm glad you think so! Thank you :D
@MythicMosss
@MythicMosss 18 күн бұрын
Guys I’m so so so so so sorry to all the people who have become victim to this! It’s truly heartbreaking and awful! I’m not on the internet very often and I wasn’t really aware of what this really was I just liked the aesthetic of wearing bows and pretty lace dresses I truly didn’t associate any of this with it. I apologize
@m1yathehoeya
@m1yathehoeya 17 күн бұрын
I personally think that's fine- I mean, hell, I do it too; I enjoy the dresses, ribbons and stuff of coquette. I think it's cute, it's silly, and it's pretty. You can enjoy something without associating it with the community and stuff, enjoy something in moderate doses without trying to harm yourself. things aren't always just black and white after all. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you have not much to apologize for from my perspective, at least. Just stay safe, spread awareness onto things like this, call others out on their bad behavior / block, and enjoy stuff you wanna enjoy. 🫂
@boglarkabota7613
@boglarkabota7613 18 күн бұрын
This was a very thougthful analysis, thank you! I couldn't pinpoint for a long time what bothers me about coquette so much, tho I would love to love the aesthetic. Now that I think about it, it's the ED associations for me that spoils it, as I almost didn't survive my teenage years because of ED, and now I just feel immense fear and anxiety for the girls who are going through the same.
@Dinosaurets
@Dinosaurets 19 күн бұрын
HOW DARE KZbin HIDE THIS FROM ME FOR TWO MINUTES 😔😔
@itz_blue_hair
@itz_blue_hair 19 күн бұрын
A whole twenty for me😭😓
@xXJoeyXxcoooool
@xXJoeyXxcoooool 19 күн бұрын
4 hours for me 😭
@user-ooop
@user-ooop 15 күн бұрын
Four days for me 😢
@FaydedColors
@FaydedColors 19 күн бұрын
Every single video is a BANGER‼‼
@DorianJaekle
@DorianJaekle 10 күн бұрын
From being neglected as a child, I was overweight. So compared to the other kids in my class, my breats were full, and so were my hips. I used to get sexualized for my "precocious" features, and I often wished for a body similar to my peers. This eventually led to an eating disorder so bad I started fainting and was rushed to the hospital. Coquette glorifying these topics makes my stomach churn, and i'm glad people are talking about it more.
@vivian5109
@vivian5109 Күн бұрын
thank you for the clarification about nabokov. i remember getting into an argument about lolita with a friend when i was in high school (either having just escaped a grooming relationship or still in it, but either way, it was around that time) and she was disgusted by him for "fetishizing p*dophilia" even though i pointed out that he himself was abused and was obviously against it. it was painful to see lolita being so misunderstood because it was a book that made me feel so seen by nabokov, and i related so deeply to dolores. for me at the time, a book written from the perspective of a p*dophile was the closest i could get to an actual answer as to why the people who hurt me did what they did.
@Matchachacha-OWO
@Matchachacha-OWO 18 күн бұрын
I have been saying this forever, coquette "aesthetic" and embodying it mentally and physically to extreme extents NEVER benefits girls and women, it benefits men and the patriarchy. It destroys your image of yourself and makes you degrade yourself to something palatable to other people(who are not actually paying attention to you so intensly), especially men, as it attributes infantile characteristics and naivety to something "cute" and "desirable."
@suzumi111
@suzumi111 Күн бұрын
what patriarchy maybe not in the west but definitely the middle east
@Emo_PuddingX3
@Emo_PuddingX3 19 күн бұрын
7:09 THE WAY MY MOUTH DROPPED…I almost started crying at the body part to bc I KNOW HOW THAT FEELS BRO..yeah starving yourself and still not feeling stinky enough is a feeling I’ll never forget so seeing it in true time is horrifying lol but grim in a “good” way (idk how to put it)
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
Yeah, EDs suck I still felt awful at my thinnest :( I'm glad to hear you're in a better place and that those feelings are just memories, take care
@MarianneStudios
@MarianneStudios 18 күн бұрын
Lovely to see a deep dive into my absolute favourite aesthetic! At surface level, I’m just a huge fan of Lana Del Rey’s music with an extreme love for pinks, reds, traditional/vintage imagery and femininity, but there is a little bit more nuance to that regarding the fact that some of the themes explored within Lana’s lyricism have aided me in having a safe means of relief for more controversial parts of my identity (such as romantic feelings for much older men, etc) via listening to her music alone without acting upon anything. I think it is very important that we continue to advocate against the normalisation of CSA and female objectification both in and out of the subculture, as well as recognise the meanings behind what music we consume before associating it with an otherwise healthy romance. Put Me in a Movie is a notable one and I’m glad you chose to draw attention to it; rather than using a song like Candy Necklaces or Ultraviolence in one’s edit of themself and their significant other, perhaps one of Lana’s more healthier songs regarding romance such as Living Legend or Let the Light in would be more suitable? I will not ignore that our subculture is a mess, but there are ways in which we can enjoy and steer it in a safer and more inclusive manner; I especially love seeing people from all continents of the world on TikTok embracing the bows and the pink, straying away from this Eurasian-centric origin and keeping the community what it should be - just people who love the fashion and colours and perhaps listen to Lana Del Rey~ Once again, this was a beautifully written but incredibly meaningful retrospective, lovely work! 🎀
@The_miIk
@The_miIk 19 күн бұрын
OH MY GOD 2 MINS AGO!! I'm really glad you covered this one because honestly I never got this style to much because it just over lapped with so many styles so i would get confused! this was another amazing video :) edit: just finished the video. :( its so sad what this aesthetics origin is. Thank you for fully explaining the book lolita becuase I have heard it but never really knew much about it.
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed the video, even though it was at times quite grim, and that I could help you understand Lolita better, thank you for watching^^
@babiegirl526
@babiegirl526 19 күн бұрын
at first i was like oh no but this is actually a good video! im very into coquette since like 2021 and like watching videos about lolita since a little earlier. on tiktok now its quite different from when it was 2-3 years ago. coquette is anything pink and lace and ribbons now. before i noticed it was a little closer to nymphet more heart red patterns and the floral amazon bedsheets. i like it cause its easier to find what i like besides vintage pink, i use to like the baby girl aesthetic cause it was pastel and little kid like then i got into coquette cause it was more softer colors ..but i know like alot of people put disclaimer they are not romantisize lolita anymore but some people still do. i always see lisbon sisters edits though they are very relateable and the housewife or older men part thats quite common .. i didnt see anyting really bad in it since i was already like that before but i see now how it can be harmful to people cause like its like making it cool with the whispers and stuff im always skinny so i never thought it was a problem of the skinny part of it but like im not white so seeing mostly white girls do it i felt i couldnt fully do it how i thought.. so it must be tough for someone with an ed or bigger who likes that style i do see some plus size people and people of color do coquette and vintage i really like that the being the delicate and sensitive part is spot on though.. this is a really great video
@Resident_Cryptid_Wylo
@Resident_Cryptid_Wylo 19 күн бұрын
Hooray, hooray! I’m finally early! Can’t wait for another aesthetic deep dive✨✨🧚
@zombie-boneszz
@zombie-boneszz 19 күн бұрын
It’s so sad to see the novel get misinterpreted like that :(
@bl00dmoon_kid
@bl00dmoon_kid 18 күн бұрын
This video is so goodd!!! I love ur aesthetic deep dives, theyre perfect for when i go in the train to school (it takes about half an hour)!! Youre one of my fav ytbers!!
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 17 күн бұрын
it's an honour to be one of your favs! Glad I can keep you company with my yapping while you commute
@Janwasnothere
@Janwasnothere 15 күн бұрын
I remember when coquette suddenly became super popular last year and my english teacher suddenly came to us to tell the negative meaning about it since she noticed two elementary school students yelling the word. Eventually we just quit calling that word
@koffiecake
@koffiecake 18 күн бұрын
I'm 16 and about a year ago when I really got into the aesthetic I started dating a 22 year old. But she was really abusive so I recently left her. I still like the aesthetic and the virgin suicides and the crush are my favorite movies because I find them relatable. I hate how girls are accused of romanticizing dark subjects. One time with that woman, I posted a photo from buffalo 66 and she said this could be us but you're a minor. Yet I'm the only one who gets accused of romanticizing, she goes on living her life.
@eventhorizon2264
@eventhorizon2264 17 күн бұрын
You were groomed, and that isn't your fault in any shape or form... I hope you have a trusted adult in your life you can talk to... Sending positive energy your way ✨🪻
@Lizziedraper
@Lizziedraper 19 күн бұрын
Yess I love these aesthetic breakdowns!
@sour.sparkleofficial
@sour.sparkleofficial 19 күн бұрын
this is very good thumbnail
@sleepypotatoe7
@sleepypotatoe7 11 күн бұрын
Great video! I fell down the nymphet rabbit hole and man does is it bad for body image. However, my love for the hyper feminine fashion stems from how I believed that society saw Black girls and women. We were always portrayed as being strong and not super feminine. That hurt me because I wanted be perceived as delicate, sweet, and innocent. I wanted to be this fragile doll that someone would take care of and not see as a threat. The coquette/nymphet to eating disorder and grooming pipeline is a real thing. Thankfully I had overprotective parents so I didn't have to deal with any grooming issues. I did end up with an eating disorder. I was hyper obsessed with being skinny because it would further allow me to be seen as cute and delicate. With extreme skinniest coming back, it confuses me. I'm a young woman (25) and I haven't been super skinny in 3 almost 4 years. I've gained weight ns according to those around me, I look like a regular healthy person. however somewhere deep down inside I feel less desirable, innocence, and cute. I try my best to avoid coquette and similar tags in social media as they just send me spiraling. In regards to the grooming aspect there definitely is a push to toxic and older men. I'd say that it doesn't help that many modern romance books also perpetuate this as well (innocent, flirtatious, an not too young female leads and male leads who are toxic, creepy, and often times old enough to be the female lead's dad). Dismantling some of the problematic trends with this particular aesthetic is going to be difficult to do as some things seemed to be interwoven into society as normal.
@BlueWoFandWcue
@BlueWoFandWcue 19 күн бұрын
I love your deep dives, I look forward to every video! I ran when I saw this-
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
That's so sweet, I'm glad you enjoy my stuff! Hope the video didn't disappoint^^
@Strawberry98960
@Strawberry98960 18 күн бұрын
my ex best friend was coquette and she still is. I always hated it since they always act so innocent and as if they never can do anything wrong. she only watch shoujo animes and more romance movies but i never liked how she dressed. i found them cute sometimes but they were too short and she was obbsessed with the idea of love to the point she dated someone she didnt like just so she can be loved by someone. "i only dated him since he was the easist to ctach" she said since he liked her for months.
@DeadVoxel
@DeadVoxel 17 күн бұрын
That's awful. I hope the guy is doing better now and isn't with her anymore This type of thinking can be really harmful to both parties. It's terrible that an aesthetic romanticized and normalized this kind of mindset. Love isn't a toy to play with... And this whole "innocent" act is sickening. Clearly contradictory too as she literally used a guy just to fulfill her fantasy of "love". That's a far cry from innocence. I also hope that eventually she realizes what she's doing wrong and steps away from this sort of lifestyle
@Caelesistis_Aurealis
@Caelesistis_Aurealis 16 күн бұрын
The thing I despise about this aesthetic os how the innocence, or child-like traits are so sexualized
@late8138
@late8138 5 күн бұрын
Get over it
@sourbloxian8831
@sourbloxian8831 Күн бұрын
@@late8138get over it? Every negative thing that happened in your life, I hope you got over it too, none of it was that serious anyways :)
@unniebunny2551
@unniebunny2551 12 сағат бұрын
I sense a hint of envy and resentment from the way you described her. You can despise her as much as you want, but despising her for wearing a certain aesthetics or how she manages her love life seems a bit....off...unless she did unspeakable stuff to you to garner that resentment. The way you worded it just seems...off...
@fuyukoackermann4648
@fuyukoackermann4648 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for making those videos. Keep going, because you make a really good job there.
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 17 күн бұрын
thank you^^
@froggycolouring
@froggycolouring 19 күн бұрын
I can’t believe this doesn’t even have 1k views, it’s such a well made video on a topic I don’t see talked about much :0 (Commenting for the algorithm to change that!!!)
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
Thank you! KZbin is slow sometimes, it takes time for a video to find it's audience. Thank you for commenting
@Its_EdenDuh
@Its_EdenDuh 19 күн бұрын
I LOVE YOUR AESTHETIC DEEP DIVES! ❤️ after starflesh can you make preppy an option?
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
THANK YOU! i'll add it to my list^^
@Jessica-ge1vh
@Jessica-ge1vh 18 күн бұрын
I found out about lolita when I was 11 because of my 26 year old male teacher :(
@Cookiecutter333
@Cookiecutter333 15 күн бұрын
This was so well done good job Juno
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 15 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@juanettejohnson2962
@juanettejohnson2962 12 күн бұрын
They all LOVE listening to Lana del Rey and yet they don't understand... "Blurring the lines between real and the fake..." - Lana del Rey, national anthem...
@xri_bxrry
@xri_bxrry 17 күн бұрын
do you think you could do a deep dive on juminocore/heisei retro? i absolutely adore that style and it’s relatively new. i would love to hear your analysis on it! ❤
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 17 күн бұрын
thank you for your suggestion! I'll see if i can come up with a fun video idea
@squish154
@squish154 19 күн бұрын
The drawing kind of reminds me Rottenmango.
@rvaldrich
@rvaldrich Күн бұрын
This was a wonderful video. Thank you for making it.
@Sleepdeprived_potatosack
@Sleepdeprived_potatosack 19 күн бұрын
YESS JUNO MOTH POSTED!! :D
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
AND YOU'RE HERE TO WATCH IT!! YIPPEE :D
@h.e.l.lo.5.9.6
@h.e.l.lo.5.9.6 19 күн бұрын
How dare this video only have 176 views?
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
youtube's slow like that sometimes^^ I'm just glad you watched it ^^
@Letsseewhathappens-g1t
@Letsseewhathappens-g1t 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for making this video.
@sttropez8456
@sttropez8456 17 күн бұрын
Amazing video!! You’re great, I’d read published essays from you
@elidatkitty1694
@elidatkitty1694 19 күн бұрын
U SHOULD COVER STARFLESH!!!
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
I WILL IN DECEMBER
@elidatkitty1694
@elidatkitty1694 18 күн бұрын
@@juno_moth OMG TYSM
@eventhorizon2264
@eventhorizon2264 17 күн бұрын
​@@juno_moth aaaa can't wait
@lalaw2
@lalaw2 17 күн бұрын
coquette is my life
@v_vlps
@v_vlps Күн бұрын
Oh my. I didn't know that cherries had a sxl connotation. Those old paintings of young girls with cherries are so disturbing now that I know the meaning of them 😭
@glitcharcing
@glitcharcing 6 күн бұрын
very cool channel, it’s rare that I spend time binging yt videos these days but yours are totally worth it. for this specific video, I wanted to say that I think “heroin chic” never actually left. From my experience, blogs (like myproana) have been popular since the early 2000s… and they were slightly less popular in the early 2010s but still had hundreds if not thousands of users, and the same applies today. You say you’ve had experiences with the community, same here, so I’m curious as to why you might feel like it’s on the rise - like, what indicates it’s even more popular than it was in the early 2010s?
@AZIELBOOP
@AZIELBOOP 16 күн бұрын
I simply loved the princess vibe, but there's no denying that the community that embraced it is..quite harmful.
@C0DE_R3D
@C0DE_R3D 19 күн бұрын
Would you ever consider making a video about Dark Academia?
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 17 күн бұрын
I'll add it to my aesthetic doc, thank you for your suggestion, i'll see if i can think of a fun video idea for it
@ggyeye365
@ggyeye365 Күн бұрын
When I was 17-18 I got groomed by my best friends dad we had a relationship for a year and was completely consumed by this innocent idea that it was beautiful and now I have trauma that will b with me for life bc everything abt it ruined everything abt me and I will never get over it and I’m broken and want to die
@NB-lx6gz
@NB-lx6gz 19 күн бұрын
7:38 Damn this monolog....
@ERID4N
@ERID4N 18 күн бұрын
Hi!! I just found your channel today and I just subscribed, I can't believe i havent found It earlier, i've been trying to know more about cutecore In general and I think this video does cover a lot of information that helped the way you explained It was really amazing and the descriptions within just a few minutes was just jawdropping. If you haven't done emo or scene yet I'd love for you to cover that In your own time since I've been a mix of both for a while because if someone could cover most or maybe even all of the information on either of those it'd definitely be you
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 17 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the sweet comment! I'm glad to hear you're sticking around^^ I have added your suggestions to my (huge) aesthetic's doc and I'll see if i have a fun video idea for them! Once again, thank you for subscribing and I hope i'll see you around in my comment section
@sebak-wy1bn
@sebak-wy1bn 19 күн бұрын
My favourite mothman
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
:D
@Berrycherry-03
@Berrycherry-03 19 күн бұрын
Fairy core or art core next pleaseeeee and I’m sorry I wasn’t earlier 🎀⭐️🥺
@Innie0310
@Innie0310 8 күн бұрын
I love the fashion so much but the story behind it..
@cassandravonpohl942
@cassandravonpohl942 13 күн бұрын
I'd love to see you do dark academia aesthetic
@A_Shrubbery1901
@A_Shrubbery1901 19 күн бұрын
yeah i think i'm gonna take you up on that offer to rewatch the kidcore video, and probably the ugliest animals one too. take care!
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
good on you for taking care of yourself (i'm glad you like that ugly animals video, it was so much fun to make)
@elfblossomcottage
@elfblossomcottage 18 күн бұрын
HELP MY STYLE IS JUST LIKE THIS WHAT DO I DO 😭 I PUT BOWS ONE EVERY THING AM I COOKED CHAT
@eventhorizon2264
@eventhorizon2264 17 күн бұрын
I recommend you look into kawai fashion and stuff
@elfblossomcottage
@elfblossomcottage 17 күн бұрын
@@eventhorizon2264 ahhh but I put soo much money into my clothes soo can I just say my style is kawai instead
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 17 күн бұрын
you can continue wearing whatever you want, you can enjoy your clothes without falling down a dark rabbit hole. As long as you're safe and you're not harming anyone, keep doing what makes you happy
@elfblossomcottage
@elfblossomcottage 17 күн бұрын
@@juno_moth kk thanks :)
@shrutikaparli8276
@shrutikaparli8276 13 күн бұрын
Don't change your style due to a video. Its time to stop being so easily guilt tripped and influenced by online media and the thoughts of people you don't know and shall never meet.
@lunariaincendio7496
@lunariaincendio7496 3 күн бұрын
TW: Ah yes , when I wanted to loose weight kpop was my inspo (was never over weight but still unhappy with my looks) , so I restricted my food intake with spells of binging on sweets. Ended up loosing lot of hair and skin got more messed up. Later when I ate whatever in multiple portions and just moved around more I lost more weight and it was easy to keep off.
@cherry._.spicee
@cherry._.spicee 19 күн бұрын
OMG ONLY 6 MINUTES AGO EARLY!!!!!!!
@genesissutton8307
@genesissutton8307 19 күн бұрын
I love ur vids
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
thank youuu
@Chocolatecreamcakecovers
@Chocolatecreamcakecovers Күн бұрын
3:48 what is? Born to die? Put me in a movie? What I’m comfused
@mintleaves7865
@mintleaves7865 19 күн бұрын
WE ARE SO BACK 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
@Madokafan311
@Madokafan311 10 күн бұрын
WHATT HEY LOLITA HEY IS MY FAV SONG...
@Hellakiddie
@Hellakiddie 19 күн бұрын
I HATED the nymphette community my LORD
@zerobaseone4ever
@zerobaseone4ever 10 сағат бұрын
Subscribed 🫡 loved the videos
@0tterkidV
@0tterkidV 3 сағат бұрын
Can you do a video on the Morute (morbid cute) aesthetic please?
@MonsterTaming420
@MonsterTaming420 6 күн бұрын
Knowing about stuff like this is why I don't wear women's clothes anymore or have a desire to, I have a Hello Kitty x Nissin shirt that's super oversized and honestly my boyfriend wears it more than me, it's technically unisex too, that's it and I don't wear it outside. I don't even own women's underwear and I use a binder when going out, I went through a phase as a teen where I liked really pastel cutesy stuff and found it really puts you in danger because people think you're roleplaying or something. I love rabbits (I had a pretty white buck as a child) and stuffed animals and it's terrifying to think about someone taking it the wrong way. Older men have in the past and it made my gender dysphoria so much worse than it already was, I even medically transitioned at one point (hrt) and am able to pretty convincingly fool a creepy neighbour I have, if his eyesight and hearing was better I think he would try to talk to me so much more. I am just glad my boyfriend is also immature and we both like playing games together and knows I'm not trying to be weird and seductive. Also I know my example is extreme and I don't recommend it to any woman or girl, it's just how my life turned out, I was born with gender dysphoria and my birth name is so soft it means heavenly flower, so I go by a male name that means handsome instead to make me feel better and safer, even my boyfriend calls me that. I was able to find out a man will love you despite your clothes and it's nice to be cute for one guy who's a month younger than me and pretend I'm not to others. Also, I am happier than I've ever been in my life so I hope no one sees this as a sad story, just my solution. Maybe one day when I have a baby I can have a mixed wardrobe (I don't want to confuse my kid by never wearing women's clothes lol!) and maybe I can get a bra again finally, grow my hair out even for a bit, feel comfortable in cutesy feminity, even if it's just when I'm with my best friend and children :) Also thanks for reading if anyone does, I hope you don't have troubles with wearing the clothes you like or acting how you like, or if you do I hope you have a way to still enjoy it in some way
@EngineerMonkeyBTD6
@EngineerMonkeyBTD6 10 күн бұрын
It's like if looksmaxxing put on a custom skin...
@HatsuneMiku-b2v
@HatsuneMiku-b2v 19 күн бұрын
HOW DARE U KZbin HIDE THIS 2 HOURS FRO. ME (ANYWAYS PLEASEEEE DO CUTECORE CUS ITS AN ASTHETIC I USEE)
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 19 күн бұрын
thank you for the suggestion, i'll add it to my list
@interlapsed
@interlapsed 16 күн бұрын
Im so glad that im not the only one who felt iffy with the whole "coquette" aesthetics. The romanticization of gross subjects and the toxic (and somewhat racist) girls in the community always made me sure to never be within a 10 ft radius of anyone who calls themselves "coquette"
@Sweetheart_x_angel
@Sweetheart_x_angel 4 күн бұрын
Coquette is girls support girls not girls support each others €ds I hate how some „coquette“ people are actually like that
@xo_molly
@xo_molly 3 күн бұрын
i hate how people romanticize lolita, it’s has been misinterpretation and twisted for all it’s existence, the author clearly stated he wanted no pictures of girls on the cover as it was not supposed to be a romanticized love story but a tragic story of grooming. but people did the opposite of what the novel represents and made lolita into a s*x object representing youthful seductive girls and age gaps and not a scared abused 12 year old girl, it’s heartbreaking
@theJellyjoker
@theJellyjoker 7 күн бұрын
I wish to be the little girl. 6:30 7:11 7:28 7:38 Femboys and Transbians.
@noticemenot
@noticemenot 16 күн бұрын
Very good video 👍
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 15 күн бұрын
Thank you
@DaveLikesLimes
@DaveLikesLimes 18 күн бұрын
Melanie Martinez is pretty coquette core too.
@LuneHimiko
@LuneHimiko 16 күн бұрын
could you do lovecore aesthetic? or yandere-core?
@ohw5306
@ohw5306 19 күн бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@xXJoeyXxcoooool
@xXJoeyXxcoooool 19 күн бұрын
can you make another cryptid video?❤
@juno_moth
@juno_moth 17 күн бұрын
i want to! But what cryptid would you think i should cover?
@lucioramos953
@lucioramos953 Күн бұрын
And ur a newgen
@DeadinsideCastlevania648
@DeadinsideCastlevania648 18 күн бұрын
I hate how so many people hop onto an aesthetic with pretty pinks and bows without caring about the pedophilic roots
@shrutikaparli8276
@shrutikaparli8276 13 күн бұрын
Should women not wear pink and bows and give up what they like then so that they can be spared from your stupid and judgemental gaze? Should they read a feminist book every time they wear ruffles and suffer guilt for putting bows in their hair? 😂😂
@DeadinsideCastlevania648
@DeadinsideCastlevania648 6 күн бұрын
​@shrutikaparli8276 no, they should learn the messed up origins of something before saying "that's so coquette" which was literally a rebrand of a pedo aesthetic. And the actual French word means a flirty girl who doesn't actually take interest in who she is flirting with, which is not something to aspire to be
@ゆううな
@ゆううな 3 күн бұрын
@@DeadinsideCastlevania648 people can say and wear what they want, calling something coquette isn't pandering towards pedophilia, that is astronomically reaching - and no one said the point of being coquette is to be a manipulative flirt
@Mezzo_Mizukii
@Mezzo_Mizukii 18 күн бұрын
Can u do cutecore/kawaiicore?
why is everyone dressing like a little girl?
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