Behringer Neutron & Korg SQ1 paraphonic sequence

Simple paraphonic sequencing of the Neutron using Korg SQ1 and Strymon El Capistan.
Patch notes:
SQ1 CV A goes to OSC1, SQ1 CV B goes to OSC2. SQ1 Gate 1 goes to E.Gate1 and SQ1 sync out goes to S&H Clock. On the Neutron, LFO goes to S&H in and S&H out goes to Freq. Mod.

[@trnngthngs]

I have both of these devices on my wish list. Thanks for giving me NO help at all in deciding which one to get first.....yeesh. This is utterly gorgeous. Aspirations.

[@paulmaceri1496]

I love this. Mine sounds like a headless monster most of the time (even with my SQ1) and it’s nice to hear something lucid and agreeable! Great work!

[@synthesizer83]

Haha, thanks! Picked a sweet spot - touch the wrong knob and rusty chainsaw mode kicks in.

[@Eueqorogu]

@@synthesizer83 ahahahab

[@SHINdanny]

@@synthesizer83 oh, but that might be the right knob then, sometimes :D

[@produccionesabuela8533]

ikr, for me it always sounds like a creature coming from hell

[@voreshbo7031]

That is the absolute beauty about us knob tweaking sound sculpturs, finding that sweetspot 🎉 its about taking control and taming , small correction and countless switching and turning and listening , its so giving

[@SIl_Ae]

This quite a beautiful piece you've made here

[@thebmc]

I would have to dose my Neutron with valium to make it sound like this. Great job, man! Beautiful sounds!

[@hiltonhowell3098]

This is beautiful. Thank you for sharing

[@temporoboto]

Cool video, thanks for sharing.

[@lofidarkambient]

Great tune, the combination Neutron and SQ-1 is a great one. And the SQ-1, for its price, a great piece of gear!

[@Seth-hc2bj]

Soo beautiful

[@ookamimusic4019]

Truely Beautiful and Calming, This put me right into the Zone : )

[@daneguitarist1]

gorgeous!

[@SkuppyVincenzo]

Sweet sounds from a gr8 idea

[@Probbie]

Wonderful!👌

[@michaelfaymusic]

This video convinced me to keep my Neutron. Beautiful stuff man.

[@martinfinkelmeier3937]

Same and immediately got an sq1

[@markmills586]

Really nice tune. I’m glad you didn’t overcomplicate it. There are bits that remind me of BoC’s Zoetrope.

[@Zacharie17]

Sounds good !

[@JobimSynthMusic]

Best sounds I've ever heard from the neutron. Came here from behringer's post, great job, subscribed

[@Geigertek]

Fabulous.

[@tcrist56]

very nice!

[@usedsongs8053]

Nice Jam

[@davidrobertson4301]

This is good! I didn't know you could play an sq1 live

[@patchbaycowboy]

It’s a little finicky but you can hold a note for active step! I’m usually sending a lfo for a random squigly clock on random mode though 😂 stackable cable outs for lots of osc and gate fun

[@bigupz6818]

Magical

[@ShawnyDsMusic]

Wow what a wonderful use of the neutron. Love the SQ1 paired with the neutron. Not sure if you use a 3 tier stand or not but I made a custom 3d printable mount for dual SQ1's. It's working quite well for me right now. Just about ready to post it on thingiverse. Cheers!

[@monsieurmurphy]

Out of interest, how are you using the two SQ-1s? I’d wondered about getting a second SQ-1, because it’s such a nice sequencer, but wondered how I’d combine it with the other SQ-1.

[@ShawnyDsMusic]

@@monsieurmurphy it's such a fantastic zest application. I use them both to control the neutron primarily. I now have the Beringer 2600 and have been able to sync some really interesting manipulation effects that can be syncopated in very interesting manors when skipping steps on the sq-1. Would you be interested in me posting a KZbin video on how I use them? I am a newbie to posting videos of my musical experiments so bear with me :)

[@monsieurmurphy]

@@ShawnyDsMusic I would definitely be interested (and I’m sure others would, too). I teach design at The School of Design (a design school I established after twenty years of teaching design at Belfast School of Art). I’m enjoying working on design videos there, and in my experience, the more videos you plan, record and publish, the better you become. One thing that’s missing - in my experience of music tutorial videos - are videos that cover basics, i.e. how do I connect my SQ-1 and Volca Bass? How do I start with MIDI cables, etc.. I’ve been toying with posting videos of this - super basics - myself.

[@ShawnyDsMusic]

@@monsieurmurphy awesome 👍 that is really neat to hear and I appreciate the interest. I will give it my best foot forward and try and make something. I think you'll get a kick out of the little rig I have setup that holds it all together. I'll try and explain the basics of how I synced it all together. Thanks for the tips and encouragement!

[@JCBigCat]

Please make an extended version!

[@returnofthenative]

Dang!

[@franckbretteville6403]

Bonjour Synthe sizer83, je débute dans la synthèse semi-modulaire avec un Neutron+sq-1+nts-1. Un avis sur l'utilisation du nts-1 comme moteur d'effets spt? J'aime ta video qui me fait dire que j'ai pas mal de temps à passer sur mes machines. Cool, merci à toi 😉

[@artspiritfineartstudiogall9672]

Sounds great! Maybe you can help me. I want to run the sq1 in parallel to create some polymeter stuff where A is playing a 7 note phrase and B is playing say a 8 note phrase. Do I need 2 synths (one to play A and one for B)? Also can I do this with just 1 synth ? I have a ms20 (the new remake) and I can not seem to have A and B triggering separate...it seems to ignore phrase B no matter how I wire it up. Maybe if I had 2 nts-1's I could have a cheap solution to play A and B separate for interesting polymeter stuff? Or would the WASP be a cheap solution that I could hook up to play A and B separate from the sq1? Thanks so much

[@synthesizer83]

Hi! The SQ1 sends channel A and B on two different MIDI channels, so you have to find a synth that listens to more than one MIDI channel - or you polychain 2 synths (works with most of the Behringers, don't know if the NTS-1 can do that, I guess not). Otherwise you can use the cv-outs of the SQ1 and find a synth which is polyphonic and cv-controllable - don't know which would be a good one for that, as I normally use a modular for polyphonic patches.

[@haroldpalmer3245]

Hello, my SQ-1 arrived today and I have a question regarding midi output. Testing the unit I'm using only the supplied midi adapter that came with the unit. I connected it to my Novation Bass Station 1 via USB cable only. It only plays sequence B not sequence A? Is my unit faulty or is this normal behavior using the supplied midi adapter? Found nothing in the manual regarding. Thank you .

[@synthesizer83]

Hi! The SQ1 outputs sequence B one midi channel higher than sequence A. Factory settings are sequence A on channel 1 and sequence B on channel 2. Perhaps your synth receives on midi channel 2?

[@haroldpalmer3245]

@@synthesizer83 Thank you very much for the quick response. Your response was correct, it was on midi channel 2. Your a big help I truly appreciate it. Thanks again.

[@toomuchblues]

Thank you for the nice post! Is it not possible to use midi instead of cv /gate patch cables ?

[@synthesizer83]

Thanks! I would have to try again to be sure, but when I remember right, it doesn't work for the paraphonic sequencing. Either the Sq1 only outputs one note at a time or the Neutron only accepts one note via midi.

[@toomuchblues]

​@@synthesizer83 Thanks! I understood. I look forward to your future success.

[@haroldpalmer3245]

Sorry to bother you again but I'd like know how you got the USB driver to work? I've spent 2 weeks so far and Kong support says they have no fix solution for the USB Driver. I'm on windows 10 and would love to use my Neutron and Sq-1 like you. If you don't mind sharing the fix I would really appreciate it

[@synthesizer83]

Never tried that in fact, I use USB as power source only.

[@Flat8G]

Not familiar with the SQ1, can you run 2 sequences in parallel and transpose them individually?

[@synthesizer83]

It can run two sequences in parallel, but no transposing. In this patch I used the parallel mode to have one individual sequence for each of the two oscillators.

[@PiesliceProductions]

you can hack the transpose if you send a midi note to the unit while the sq1 sends cvs. The midi note is the root of the cv range

[@synthesizer83]

@@PiesliceProductions True! Also works for the Model D and I guess for most synths with MIDI and cv 1V/oct inputs.

[@smallalien5860]

I cannot get the gate signal to trigger the envelope gate on the neutron. Pitch works with vca open. It's seems so simple but I've never gotten it to work.

[@synthesizer83]

Hmm, I didn't use any special trick here, just plugged the gate output into the env gate input of the Neutron. But - the SQ1 has a hidden menu where you can set the gate polarity, perhaps I did this some time back.

[@smallalien5860]

@@synthesizer83 hey thanks! I'll try the polarity.

[@walrtbstudios5430]

I’d like to see the transposition ‘feature’ of the SQ-1 explained somewhere. I’m aware that it does it, but it’s always seemed arbitrary and random- certainly not controllable.

[@synthesizer83]

Quite sure it cannot transpose... I am just using the parallel mode here and feed the A & B cv to the two VCOs of the Neutron. The bottom sequence has only one step activated, therefore it looks like there is transposition going on, but it isn't.

[@walrtbstudios5430]

@@synthesizer83 This chap gets it to do so, but doesn’t explain how (language barrier obvs): kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZm2mZpsa9CVqK8 I can make it do so, but only- as previously- in a random and arbitrary fashion. You’ve given me an idea though- cv A into the Neutron, cv B into the Model D!

[@synthesizer83]

@@walrtbstudios5430 Think he's just summing the A & B cv of the sq1 in the 0 coast?

[@walrtbstudios5430]

@@synthesizer83 Yeah, could be. But I’m getting similar results running just the A lane into the 0-Coast’s cv and gate inputs, not using the Math section at all. As it happens, I’ve got nothing better to do today than mess with the SQ-1 and hardware, so if I have an epiphany I’ll post the results on my own channel!

[@walrtbstudios5430]

@@synthesizer83 It took me no time at all to video this behaviour: much longer to post it... kzbin.info/www/bejne/jWjakJd_eNKUf5Y This is, surely, transposition of some kind. It would be nice if someone from Korg saw this, but I’m not holding my breath!

[@Cos3D]

Is it possible to record those notes into a daw ? Notes from the arp not the audio, thanks!

[@synthesizer83]

The SQ1 outputs only row one via midi, so this may be problematic. Perhaps with an extra cv to midi converter.

[@andredatele]

I see you're driving the neutron with the CV out from SQ1. How do you deal with the Neutron oscillators tuning? I always need to play a midi note into my neutron, otherwise the oscillators are tuned to their lowest, regardless of the CV input. I'd like to use CV exclusively, wonder if you also face this and if so how did you solve it?

[@synthesizer83]

that's strange... I use no midi here, cv only. Do your oscillators show no reaction to the cv at all?

[@andredatele]

@@synthesizer83 in the meantime I had more time with the Neutron. The unit responds to CV just fine, but I find that the oscillators are naturally tuned to a very low frequency. Using a midi note helps to bring it up and makes it possible to use the 0-1V range on the SQ-1. If I don't use any midi input I have to crank up the pitch knobs of the oscillators and use the much wider 0-5V range on the SQ-1. EDIT: It looks like I can select the key range (and thus the CV=0V note on the Neutron app). It was set to C0, C2 provides a much better (much more audible at least) starting point!

[@synthesizer83]

@@andredatele Yes it's tuned very low in the standard setting, I always use the "global" tuning mode of the OSC's with all three range LEDs lit - though a bit hard to tune then. Will also try the app then!

[@arqner3493]

why didn´t you patch the korg´s Gate B out? why did you patch the korg´s Gate sync out?

[@synthesizer83]

It goes into the s&h clock, and I wanted that triggered every step. I guess I wasn't sure if I would turn of some gates on the B track during the impro, so I decided to take the sync out here instead of gate B.

[@WizardOfTheKremlin]

Hi, What is the little unit on the side?

[@synthesizer83]

The Strymon El Capistan, a tape delay / spring reverb pedal. One of my favorites!

[@WizardOfTheKremlin]

@@synthesizer83 Thank you. I have both the Neutron and the SQ-1. I'll look into one of those units to pair with those two and my other synths Thanks again.

[@colourcascade7600]

Is that strymon patched in mate?

[@synthesizer83]

Yep.

[@colourcascade7600]

Oscillator and gate?

[@synthesizer83]

You mean from the SQ1 to the Neutron? Both cvs for OSC1 & 2 and the gate.