Being mentally ill in prehistory vs today

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[@spaghetto9836]

What you would've been in ancient times, according to your mental disability: • Schizo: A highly respected religious chief who was touched by the Unknown in ways the human brain cannot comprehend. • Autism: A secluded inventor, or the King's most dearest court jester who acts as council. • ADHD: An excellent hunter-gatherer, assassin and soldier. • OCD: A well-off tax collector, or an internally tortured, yet revered prophet who counts the signs of future events. • Bipolar: A troubled, but outstanding actor or artist, not without their controversies. • Borderline: The loyal & faithful servant/right-hand of someone powerful, for whom you'd do anything. I hope you get more subscribers, this stuff is awesome.

[@flextape467]

Me assassin jester

[@forkstealinggoblindumbass2106]

Real😊

[@flextape467]

Also what about anxiety disorders

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Tbh everything you described is possible today

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@flextape467that would probably be considered the equivalent of a transgender woman today

[@comedyman4896]

Fun fact: There are ancient Assyrian texts that describe soldiers experiencing PTSD flashbacks and being haunted by the ghosts of the people they killed in their dreams.

[@tonkinthehanoian1843]

you got the link bro?

[@Dice-Z]

@@tonkinthehanoian1843 Yeah it's called your local library. You gotta look in those weird, thick tablets made of paper.

[@gaelen5868]

PTSD being explained as the spirits of slain enemies haunting you after death tracks so hard

[@romansdump]

​@MateuszMisztela It sounds pretty close by itself

[@SonOfMeme]

Why would the people they killed in their dreams become ghosts

[@rootsnootthnute8598]

I just decided to be ancient with my mental illness, I wear a suit of bones, I grow powerful herbs, I consume countless dream herbs, and commune with abstract entities from beyond time and space. I'm not even sure what mental illness I might have, so I'm vibing, feels good. I wear a giant buck's skull and have a necklace made of fox bones. I don't even know how old I am anymore.

[@asahearts1]

Not drinking reindeer urine? 0/10 😂

[@MsOkayAwesome]

What an icon, keep it up!

[@Dinoenthusiastguy]

It's MY mental illness, I choose the coping mechanism 🦴☘️🍄

[@danielmorris7648]

Dude you're living life man what a inspiration

[@JimmyJones-w3p]

Show me the way.

[@superkoksu487]

I introduce myself either as a wizzard or a prophet of the sun cult. Nothing stops you from adding spice to your mental ilness.

[@raymunrado7569]

PRAISE THE SUN! ☀️

[@sauronplugawy3866]

Based and Aurelian pilled.

[@hellgazer8370]

can i create an opposing moon cult 👉👈

[@alfredwaldo6079]

Don't add spice, you don't wanna turn into a tyrannical worm god emperor that brutally rules mankind for many millenia

[@safety_doggo2]

"IT'S MY MENTAL ILLNESS AND I GET TO CHOSE THE COPING MECHANISM!" *Nuclear Super-Submarine comes into view.*

[@davidreeding9176]

The modern mentally ill: "I created an operating system from scratch and use it to commune with my god."

[@davidreeding9176]

-T. A. D.

[@zebulaun]

BASED

[@Levyafan]

"Verily, the king's spies of Nubian complexion are sent to impede me, only to be trampled beneath my steed's hooves! For their devilish hearts give them a sinister glow in the dark of the night!"

[@Kain1805]

God tier reference

[@10_irsyadmahdimubarok74]

God blessed Terry davis

[@sautethecrableg]

reject modernity, return to shamanism

[@anonymouspotato4899]

I feel this. I don't *need* to work customer service, I *need* to be a blacksmith in a 9th century Nordic village who teaches the children of the village all the fun swears when their parents are in the fields.

[@illomens2766]

this but unironically

[@Konpekikaminari]

@@anonymouspotato4899 ok but TBF no one needs to work customer service this job kills you in all ways but physically

[@derpherp1810]

reject modernity and authoritarianism, embrace tradition and egalitarianism

[@DillyTheWillyWilliams]

Literally destroys the soul​@@Konpekikaminari

[@jagahkhan4692]

Time to commune with the ancestors. *Starts dancing butt naked in the living room*

[@q.s.w.9074]

Your ancestors are looking at you with respect and admiration

[@Scantronimus466]

“The phrase is buck naked, ya idjit!” - Your ancestors

[@gamera5160]

NOW YOU ARE READY TO HUNT THE MAMMOTH!!!

[@idestquodest]

I was born in the wrong generation.

[@Raven_Bride]

Best to make the most of it

[@danolantern6030]

“I was born in the wrong generation” my brother in christ you’d probably be accused of being a skinwalker or died of dysentery

[@tj03297]

I was born in the wrong epoch. I’m not like the other Holocenic humans

[@KY-qx9ip]

>Be someone >Time be 800 CE >Mentally ill >Exalted as a prophet >Burned alive in a which trial.

[@Yelloweyedrobo]

Y’all really need to get a hobby instead of saying this

[@itsumayo]

Autism is a form of magic and wizardry. And I’m a high ranking warlock

[@Dolritto]

Do a smalltalk, Warlock

[@Morec0]

Who's your patron?

[@kormannn1]

@@Morec0 makng a pact with GOO seems like the most right choice...

[@spaghetto9836]

​@@Morec0_✨Science.✨_ (No really, it'd be cool if there was a fantasy class in a tabletop who were touched by (read: born with) Autism by the God of Science to be its Templars. Like a class of semi-atheistic Templars, the same way Satanists don't believe in Satan.)

[@spaghetto9836]

​@@Dolritto"That is but one spell I cannot perform. T'would take too much energy, for too little reward."

[@immazog]

I still am the doctor and priest of my tribe and I still commune with my ancient ancestors. This is misinformation and you will have thy reckoning upon thee by the noon of the solstice.

[@Hamburger8079]

Do you still make yourself trip to see the future though?

[@Mikkel-of-Lolland.]

"can thee see if I will be king of Lolland."

[@aazhieryakes884]

Please, wise one, forgive them and let them purge and pray for repentance. It is the modern poison that has made them speaketh so!

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Lol exactly wtf is this propaganda

[@neuroklutz]

Agreed, how dare they speak blasphemous language from thy sacred tongue? I will not tolerate this wretched, treasonous propaganda that depicts us as the devil’s fools.

[@enigmaodell6806]

Even in the Middle Ages, when you would figure there’s be fears of demons, the ‘village idiot’ was consider protected in a lot of places, and jesters were given protection and surprisingly comfortable lives.

[@aazhieryakes884]

Yea, a lot of times people were kind to the mentally ill because they followed the parts of the Bible that say the needy deserve the best care and kindness. It was well known that would be a quick way to get to heaven, and poorer folks knew they would likely die if they tired to make them "bootstrap" themselves. :(

[@Jordan-kq3qw]

Also, the guy who jumps off a cliff becaise yhe voices told him he could fly just died, amd the guy who is paranoid and schizophrenic got driven out to live alone in the woods, but the guy with a scale model of the villiage made out of twigs and who will only eat a specific type of gruel with a specific spoon was not a threat. He was cool, he knew where all the berry pushes were in a thousand yard radius around the villiage.

[@chrismar3700]

The Jesters were not crazy, on the contrary, they were part of the royal advisors, because in the end they were very good with words And two, no, in the Medieval Era they did not treat those they considered "Crazy" so well, they did not do it out of humanism, they took care of them because otherwise they would start beating people or damaging property, At that time they were known as "The Furious Peasants" or "The Furious Poor" because they believed that Madness was common among poor people, There are records of how in Medieval Cities the poorest families tended to lock up and tie up their relatives simply because they could not take care of them.

[@tomasrocha6139]

In the Middle Ages Satan was protrayed as a defeated weakling that no one feared, the witch craze was post-medieval

[@fueyo2229]

​@@chrismar3700That of locking people families can't take care of its sadly still common in many countries

[@dand1253]

Fun fact: it's believed that in the Shang Dynasty (the first provable Chinese dynasty, reigning from ~1600-1046 BC), those born with disabilities that made it difficult to farm, work metal, or perform other physical tasks were usually inducted into the priesthood as children - the logic being, perhaps, that if most people were "shaped" for the more mundane professions, then the deformed had been "shaped" for other purposes.

[@gezz555]

This is actually a cool theory.

[@dand1253]

@@gezz555 The Shang Dynasty's mythology and cosmology (well, what little I've learned about it) is a cornucopia of interesting ideas. For example, they had gods, but it was considered dangerous to seek their direct attention; Shang ancestor worship was predicated on the dead acting as intermediaries, using their liminal state as former mortals to 'translate' the prayers entrusted to them by their descendants so that the gods could be safely entreated for aid. The Shang Emperors held their status in part by having an encyclopedic knowledge of the various divinations, prayer ceremonies, and other rituals which everyone relied on for protection from the chaos of the natural world, but also because their bloodline was that of the "Three-Bodied Tribe", half-siblings to the Ten Suns which brought light to the world. * They were not fully mortal, and so they could risk performing rituals that would be suicide for any human occultist - and if need be, they could ransom their own lives as a last-ditch effort to invoke divine aid against famine and other disaster. The founding myth of the Dynasty includes the first Shang Emperor doing just this. ** +++ _Tang said, "Those for whom I am asking for rain are the people. If it is necessary to make a prayer using human offering, I ask that I be it myself."_ _Thereupon, he fasted and abstained, cut his hair and pared his nails, and regarding himself as a sacrificial victim, prayed at the altar of the Mulberry Grove._ _He said, "I, your little son Lu, dare to use a dark ([symbol I can't reproduce]) sacrificial victim and announce to the Lord of Heaven above: If there be wrongdoing in the ten thousand regions, the wrong is upon my person. If I myself have wronged, do not extend it to the ten thousand regions. Do not let one man's dullness cause the High Lord, specters and spirits to harm the people's life."_ _Before he had finished speaking, a great rain came, covering an area of many thousand li._ Interestingly, the phrase "dark sacrificial victim" in the passage isn't intimating that the act of human sacrifice is "dark". The specific phrasing is instead saying "a sacrificial victim who is dark", in a fashion which my main source, the book _The Shape of the Turtle,_ interprets as referencing the Shang creation myth, where the royal line are of the Three-Bodied Tribe, half-siblings of the black-feathered sun crows. * (The Shang measured time via a thirty-day calendar month, because they believed that the Ten Suns took turns making the journey across the sky each day. When the Tenth Sun completed his journey and the First Sun took flight again, a week had passed. To quote a passage from one of the written record sources we have, _'Behold their ascent to the sky! A time of brightness, then a time of darkness, as the sons of Xihe go out from Sun Valley.')_ ** (Unfortunately, the passage I then go on to quote was from records written long after the Shang Dynasty, by scholars whose philosophy drove them to interpret anything within the ancient scrolls they were transcribing that deviated from their understanding of China's inherent, eternal cultural norms as some sort of bizarre error, which they then 'corrected' to align with 'proper' Confucian principles.)

[@nou6990]

@@dand1253 Curious about where you got the original text from? Not doubting your integrity, just want to take a look at the symbol you couldn't reproduce. Nice essay, by the way! Do you do related work?

[@dand1253]

@@nou6990 No, I'm purely a dilettante. At best, I take the things I learn and try to cannibalize them for creative fodder. My source on the Shang Dynasty is a book called _The Shape of the Turtle;_ I'm reasonably confident in the quoted passage's accuracy since I copypasted it from a Discord convo back when I first read the book, so I'd have literally had it open in front of me at the time.

[@nou6990]

@dand1253 Hm, the book is a bit out of budget for me at the moment. I'll keep the book in mind for when I have the means to read it. Thanks anyway!

[@deleteduser84924]

This is 100% true, my african great grandfather was a respected shaman working for the rwandese king, i inherited his "gift" but now they just call me psychotic.

[@Batman78488]

Doesn't work in the new ages

[@gamera5160]

Technically, if your hallucinations and beliefs are in line with cultural beliefs and practices, you’re not psychotic. Your therapist just isn’t familiar with Rwandan shamanism.

[@poetsrear]

In the future this will be the presented scenario of email scammers.

[@TheBladus]

@@Batman78488 doubt

[@orangeismyfavoritecolor]

For a second I thought "trip" was literal, like they made themselves fall to see the future very briefly before they hit the floor.

[@OsnoloVrach]

this is how i understood it when i was learning this God-forbidden language

[@reid3031]

​@@OsnoloVrach Godforsaken* (I am so incredibly sorry)

[@OsnoloVrach]

@@reid3031 I will kill myself now

[@OsnoloVrach]

@@reid3031 I will now sewerslide

[@yoeyyoey8937]

No it means like they go somewhere else like a vacation but it’s all business not pleasure

[@XneverstopfightingX]

“Trust me bro, I’m not gonna hit that evil wizard weed”

[@spetsnaz4537]

dude weed

[@TalkAboutaTrapstar]

One minute later "Damn this some dark evil shit"

[@XneverstopfightingX]

@@TalkAboutaTrapstar I found the video, it’s on ifunny under “I swear I won’t hit that evil vvizard vveed. 10 minutes later”

[@cheeki5280]

Shamans probably functioned as ancient therapists which lines up pretty well with modern therapists sharing diagnoses with clients

[@TheAsylumCat]

Bullseye

[@Dolritto]

Shaman was probably less pricey.

[@cheeki5280]

@@Dolritto ahhh hell naw I gotta get my shaman from betterhelp 💀

[@Athetos_Admech]

Priests used to serve a similar function in many of the more modern religions.

[@lakaboss9313]

@@cheeki5280 You know betterhelp is a tech company that steals your most private information right? They lost a lawsuit against the FTC last year cuz they were selling people's data to Facebook and other advertisers. I was with them for three months before I found out, and they were sending ads to all my friends and family members. Turns out they aren't required to have their therapists be licensed or follow HIPPA. Stay safe out there friend

[@TheBoxGhost_tm]

This is why I like playing traditionally insane characters in TTRPGs. You could be boring by being sad about everything (unless you're the type of Chad to pull off Bonzy the Clown characters correctly). Or you could start listening to random talkative bulkhead doors to tell you when a group of bad guys is on the other side while you're prepping a "grenade" (read: 3 laser packs duct taped together with the ruined gun as a shorting method + shrapnel) and communing with the ship's non-digital coffee machine to (correctly) divinate that there's a shadowy cult/business conglomerate being puppeteered by an amphibious lizard man trying to remake the universe at-large to his whim that your rag-tag band of idiots have to stop.

[@dimsword35]

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[@aazhieryakes884]

Oh absolutely. I often AM the shaman, a doctor and my characters will usually do anything to get drugs so they can trip baalls on their downtime! You know the benevolent DM is gonna interject some useful shit at least once or twice when you are blazed out of your mind c:

[@amanwithnoplans6592]

I also picked Malkavian for the 2 total hours I played Vampire the masquerade.

[@giovannicervantes2053]

SPACE SHAMAN!

[@TheBoxGhost_tm]

@@aazhieryakes884 My character was only on drugs precisely one time and he was the *only* one in the party to pass the check to not trip balls so hard his sanity gets affected. My quite literally insane demolitions expert had to play the (marginally) sane tard wrangler until the rest of the party came down. This is while we were on our spaceship trying to deal with the Galactic Republic actively comm-ing us to discern that we were in-fact the criminals they were looking for then avoid getting boarded & detained. Our party lead was rambling incessantly (forget about what I'm at work and don't have my notes in front of me), our medic/roboticist/pilot was temporarily capable of seeing the visions my character normally did while also talking to the coffee maker himself, our NPC ship technician decided to be obsessed with finding the nearest enemy (the space cops we were trying to evade) to die gloriously fighting, and our murderous midget of a sniper became more paranoid of betrayal than a Skaven.

[@Etx-z9]

I just feel like I would have done some crazy shit if I were born 1000 years ago.

[@andreymudik2905]

You'd probably be some peasant farming your lords land, nothing too crazy

[@ferdinand5223]

I thought so too, but for real, I'd probably just work from dawn till dusk for 15 years then die of dysentery alone in a wet ditch in some backwater Bohemian village.

[@N51totallynotprivatemilitary]

@@andreymudik2905 or the slim chance to be one of the lords

[@Barten0071]

@@andreymudik2905 like farmers didn't do something crazy some times but nobody wrote about this

[@Yelloweyedrobo]

You would have died of a cough at 2 months

[@tp4bunghole108]

I always think of Hieronymous Bosch, he must have been plagued with these bizarre paranoid visions but managed to turn it into amazing art and even had a bit of a sense of humour about it, sort of like HR Giger did for a modern equivalent

[@grafvonscyth2928]

Haha butt song.

[@gamera5160]

Haha Icarus fall and no one notice

[@BobofWOGGLE]

Only a small percentage of the prehistorically insane found success as shamans or holy men. We remember the guy who made it back from his vision trip (wandering high as balls through predator infested woods) to dispense his wisdom to the community only because most _didn't_ and that makes him special.

[@ianian4162]

...Or not, and these men really did see holy visions. Not that we can really tell, anyway.

[@dentkort]

​@@ianian4162Are you genuinely curious? Make the experiment. The whole of the occult sciences are based entirely on empirical evidence. Yes sciences, because their results are supposed to be replicable by anyone that follows their methodology. Spirits aren't matter so they aren't measurable by natural science and don't leave physical evidence. Yet they still exist, the same way our own thoughts exist in spite of their non-physicality. You have to use the tools of your ancestors, mainly your own soul and spirit, to contact them. Shrooms and herbs only serve to suspend the body's natural defenses, they are useless without the right technique and have lead many hippies to delusion. How do you know it's not "all in your head" though? The shamans knew when the predictions they gave came true, when they helped them find lost objects, ideal places to farm the land, or even hidden mineral deposits. Some could alter the weather for them, while others could curse or bless people's health and fortune. Among many other things. You will never know for sure until you try, or if you're one of the 0.1% that gets to meet a real, non-LARPing and non-delusional shaman/witch/wizard. Although I hear reiki healing is quite popular these days.

[@maybedarithix5793]

Could this be Shaman Time?

[@Voidkitty_]

It's... Shaman time

[@talon551]

real shaman hours

[@OorakanaGleb]

🎵You got the Shaman Time, Shaman Time sadness🎵

[@efreetheawesome]

The trick is that ADHD and ASD were never illnesses to begin with, and we forgot the natural diversity of the human brain during the industrial revolution.

[@aazhieryakes884]

That's only one trick. People still could get in trouble if it was believed their voices or behavior was due to demons. And even in ideal situations, the shamans were often very lonely, since most folks didn't understand the weight of visions, or experience the pains of whatever their disorder may have been. The church was not always controlled by monstrous people, but the power could absolutely attract these types. We aren't all that different from the past, and hairless apes are so diverse no groups is a monolith.

[@scrung]

that doesnt even make sense on a fundamental level - like people had any idea about diversity of anything let alone the human mind before moving in to cities where they could meet more people than before?

[@efreetheawesome]

@@scrung I'm more saying that, prior to this particular cultural/lifestyle shift, villages automatically understood already that some people thought differently and that this was natural and good for the skills they brought to the community.

[@biggusdickus1689]

​@@efreetheawesomeIf that was true most of history wouldn't be filled with bloodshed over dogmatic misalignment. The christians in ancient Rome for example were persecuted could certainly be seen as diverse, why weren't they accepted?

[@cacophonousantiquarian8803]

​@efreetheawesome as a victim of ADHD, I assure you it confers no benefits whatsoever.

[@TheGraeyRebis]

The difference is back then, the value of a person wasn't attached to your work productivity and instead was attached to your ability to co-exist peacefully. In modern society, you're seen as a liability to the workforce if you are even the most mild inconvenience for any reason by your boss and are actively punished for existing with the active threat of slow death by poverty.

[@Asvnaro]

Capitalism and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

[@geo5146]

Your value was absolutely based on what you could do. Your productivity. Look at Jamestown, look at the colonies, look at feudalism, and SO many more examples.

[@TheGraeyRebis]

@@geo5146 None of those are pre-history.

[@localneo-graphic4647]

That's pretty damn recent history, and it makes it pretty damn clear that Protestantism is a cancer that afflicts us to this day.

[@TheGraeyRebis]

@Samura1313 Pre-History is a term that basically means a time when history wasn't written yet due variety of reasons such as oral traditions. That being said, there's physical evidence found of pre-historic cultures and some of the most common ones are skeletons and therr's a few that have been found of people who have debilitating injuries and conditions such as broken bones that didn't heal properly or indications of birth defects that still lived a long life afterwards. This in addition to other physical evidence of how the people of pre-historic cultures lived as well as studies on human nature showing we're extremely social creatures that need stimulation to survive implies that the main priority of a lot these cultures was peaceful co-existence for the sake of survival as a group and whatever you contributions to your community came afterwards. So, the mentally ill and neurodivergent would of lived and thrived in these cultures as long as they didn't endanger the overall survival of their communities. Keep in mind that these cultures predate civilizations that have caste systems such as the classic "Nobility, Peasantry, and Slaves" which implies priorities shifted away from this when survival no longer was an issue which clearly was a mistake because then the main priority became "how do we please the people who owns all the food" and then "how do we please the people who have all the money which we need to buy food".

[@Deerly_delightful9]

*Meanwhile some random on 4chan* "Guys please help, Pinkiepie is in the corner of my room... She has no eyes and she constantly screams at me what do I do =("

[@DraGonXabLe1]

*I understood that reference.* Tulpamancy, eh?

[@michaelturk7237]

>Anon induces schizo delusions within himself when he is mentally unwell to create a personality-fragment horse girlfriend for himself >Anon is surprised the psychic geist abomination he conjures is terrifying and insane and wants out >lol >lmao, even

[@diegobrando2750]

Classic

[@Sabrowsky]

Lets be real, I'd probably just be some very unhinged peasant.

[@poetsrear]

'Peasant' already refers to slavery based model of organization which in itself is unhinged and produces mental illness.

[@SoilentBeef]

Lycanthropes used to be cool, now they're just Floridians.

[@ChartreuseDan]

Or you get killed or shunned as possessed/a witch. But tbh the biggest difference for mental illlness between ancient times and today is that self-unaliving generally doesn't occur to people while they're busy struggling to stay alive

[@samwallaceart288]

When your entire sense of time is predicated on "how many hours until the darkness comes", you don't have time to bleed.

[@michaelturk7237]

​@@samwallaceart288 this comment goes hard 🔥

[@DogsandPennies]

Or you know, you just stop struggling and no one clocks it as suicide because technically you only stopped resisting death.

[@berzerkerfaithfulofkhorne6488]

Psychologists have been awfully quiet since burialgoods posted this

[@extraordinarytv5451]

Mentally ill in ancient times: starting a religion Mentally ill in the 40s: bro I'M JUST QUIRKY STOP TORTURING ME PLEASE!!! PLEASE DONT BOIL ME ALIVE NOOOO! Mentally ill now: This life sucks, why does everyone wanna pretend they're like me😐

[@wolfydog7959]

Don't worry your just a category and intent cause harm away.

[@extraordinarytv5451]

@@wolfydog7959 I don't get it?

[@PaladinLazzy]

my ancestors were literally druids and all i got was this shitty schizoaffective diagnosis and bpd

[@dorthvoder9375]

All I hear is you are in communion with your ancestors.

[@mandarin420]

all I heard was that you sir, entract occasionally with you're ancestors. may Lugh be with you.

[@dentkort]

Then get formally trained. You're but a victim to the very forces your ancestors once mastered. Were you to follow in their steps, you could become quite mighty indeed! Turn that curse into a blessing.

[@poetsrear]

All you gotta do is recognize everything that you'll ever experience and also everything that you'll never experience is an internal activity of One Absolute Being which is transcendent AND imminent at the same time. There is no separation, no otherness, no personae; "all other humans" are just parts of your True Self that you disowned and who disowned you. You are not mad, you are God. In quality but not in quantity. Your job is to "swallow" as many human body-minds within your borderless identity, adding more quantity and then walk a path worthy of Son of Man. The swallowed smaller minds that you once perceived as "other people" will still see the situation as "you leading them to peace and harmony" but truthfully it's one singular coalesced human titan walking a blazing path towards God the Father, with certain descendant of the Druids working as a prismatic focal diamond at the forehead of the said singular coalesced human titan, guiding the immensive powers of the entire creature with Condensed Light of Awareness. You're welcome, brother/sister. See you at the Divine Arcade soon.

[@i.minpayne2561]

@@poetsrear this is an acid trip of a paragraph but i'm morbidly curious; how do i swallow human body-minds into my borderless identity?

[@kobold7466]

Schizophrenia is a shamanistic trait and the positive feedback and respect from those around them was a better treatment(as in it was a lot easier to not be tortured by ones own mind and made it easier to focus and commune) than any pill today.

[@BenjaminBadbrother]

Just imagine being the new shaman and feeling impostor syndrome, faking madness and feeling guilty it's not real or good enough.

[@aazhieryakes884]

I've read a few books with well developed seer/prophet types and love that a few times these characters just shrug and say something along the lines of "maybe it's all BS" and laugh. It's kinda great

[@IAm18PercentCarbon]

Shaman Grug try get Grug head work special-bad like old shaman Plog used to, but Grug just see normal things. Grug only special power eating rotting food, getting inside-hurts, barf food very far. This popular trick, good enough to be made shaman, but Grug want more

[@angelikaskoroszyn8495]

That's why you need to eat enough shrums to fry your mind a little bit

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@IAm18PercentCarboni huesos some things don’t change. At least grub is self aware

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@angelikaskoroszyn8495or stop sleeping

[@aazhieryakes884]

There's a gorgeous sculpture of the Ecstasy of St Teresa. The descriptions of her visions make people think she had a very unique form of seizures that gave her visions, or that she interpreted as visions from God. It's pretty interesting to look into.

[@angelikaskoroszyn8495]

Schizophrenia manifests itself differently in different cultures. In the West where its recognized as illness people tend to get worse symptoms. The voices tend to be nasty. In the cultures when people are more likely interpret schizophrenia as "voices of gods / ancestors" the symptoms are easier to deal. The voices tend to be nice

[@clarambrosia9834]

people today are not significantly different from people in prehistory. what has changed is how we, as a species, perceive each other and the challenges which we all face.

[@soupcangaming662]

THE EARTH IS A CONSTRUCT AND I SHALL RECLAIM IT AS MY OWN INVENTION

[@Mistor_Neek]

Taking out spirituality from our modern lives is a great source suffering in the world.

[@edheldude]

💯

[@_maliciousIntent]

Because religion is doing us so many favors, right? Spirituality inevitably leads to poor decision making and superiority complexes.

[@dentkort]

​@@_maliciousIntentReligion is literally the basis of all objective morality, the basis of our laws, and hell, the basis of our state. Almost all the greatest minds in history were religious, their discoveries in so many cases divinely inspired; while atheism only resulted in the greatest genocides. Your username really checks out, you're a subversive agent trying to spread misery and evil via the cancer that is materialism.

[@Likorys888]

​@@dentkort cope harder, materialism and posthumanism always wins. Spirituality is overrated crap for bald monkeys known as humans. But I'm not a human.

[@sneezebiscuits7239]

No.

[@siriusmywaifu4043]

I do fancy myself an enjoyed of Chopin's Nocturne Op 2 #9. Thank you. "The world is a crazy place. In the face of such insanity we have two choices. The first: to stop worrying, for we know that nothing will change. The second: To become madder than the world in hopes of everything seeming less insane."

[@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180]

Modern life is life, it has always had this level of suck. As a mentally ill modern person (depression, chronic stress, and some more shit I should not share publicly) I have to struggle with my sad, but my sad does not control or stop me (it does slow me considerably tho)

[@ChadVulpes]

This is a good attitude to have. Peace be upon you.

[@theplasmatron3306]

21st century: Calling tech-support makes me want to jump out of a window cartoon style knowing damn well it’s beavis and butthead on the other end answering. “Uh-what… huhuhuhu.”

[@ladyalicent705]

I really liked the top comment, so I’m going to add to it by continuing their list with my own ideas: Multiple Personalties: An absolute master at espionage, your charming nature and learned cooperation with your other selves allows you to always be as others want you to and operate behind enemy lines for extended periods without ever losing sight of who you truly serve, your enemies _never_ see your betrayal coming. . . PSTD: You are an exceptional writer and storyteller, a master at turning your own horrific past into beautiful yet heart wrenching stories. People might not notice you much during the sun’s course throughout the day, but at night? Around the campfire? You’re the top of the town then. Everybody wants to listen to your stories. . . Psychopath: You have no offical role in society, but behind closed doors, everyone knows you as the person who does the jobs that other people don’t want to do. You don’t take pleasure in your work, but nor do you cast judgement on your clients, you just do whatever you’re being paid to do, and do it well, whatever that might entail. . . Depression: You’re an exceptional warrior, if you can believe it! Not because you’re the strongest, or the smartest or even the most skilled, but because you don’t care if you die, and that means you take risks on the battlefield that other people just wouldn’t, especially in regards to people who you wouldn’t mind taking to the grave with you. . . Sociopath: You’re either a renowned actor or a beloved court jester, either way, you’re very good at what you do.

[@IshijimaKairo]

I'm like the Mentally Ill in prehistory. GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS

[@Asvnaro]

QVINTILIVS VARVS !!!!!!

[@Sammy_152]

Why is this so relatable 😅💀

[@ToxicityD-Day]

1st guy just had autism 2nd guy just had anxiety Me, I resonate with the 1st guy. (I do not take any medication.)

[@10hawell]

My only hope is that I'm not on receiving end of occult war crimes.

[@Matthew-wk1ti]

I'll pray for you as well love.

[@vpaul4374]

Rejoice voices that may or may not be outside of my head! For in past lifetimes we were guides for those in need!

[@jacobbreakerofsky8974]

The part on the right is still true today, many cultures don't consider what we call "mental illness" as a problem to be solved but rather as a special skill or destiny or even a special soul. Those that are able to go through the proper training/ritual/cultural and community support are able to master themselves and are treated as shamans because their resilience in overcoming ordeals of the spirit is respected. It has been shown that treating people with mental illness like this can actually be significantly better for them as opposed to having them chug pills everyday. This is a generalisation of course, but genuinely some mental illnesses are more of a byproduct of an individuals disconnect with the modern world.

[@Queen_Cnidarian]

I remember reading a study that was done on people with schizophrenia from different parts of the world. From parts of the world where schizophrenia was viewed as a positive thing (allowing ypu to commune with spirts and gods) the person experiencing schizophrenia often saw visions that were positive and reassuring. In parts of the world where schizophrenia was viewed in a negative light, the visions were more harmful and negative,

[@silvatos3720]

I now very desperately want burial goods to read off some courage the cowardly dog scripts

[@Sr_Chickon]

We were simply built different back in the day. Now society says we are sick and unfit for the world.

[@spencerwarren8302]

These videos of yours are some of few that make me smile

[@konignickerchen7265]

The mentally ill of today: I'm a neurodivergent community manager

[@MischeviousGP]

As a schizophrenic i can say this meme goes hard

[@YeetSpace]

If it's one thing that the greater whole of society is going to try its damndest to do, it's going to be making mentally ill people simultaneously feel like they shouldn't feel bad for themselves in any way and shouldn't accept the fact that they actively have an impedement towards what other people can do, but also every single problem is caused by them being the way they are and it's inherently their fault to use as a reason to yell at them 💀

[@marsship921]

There's no impedement. This is what mental illness makes you think there is, but it literally doesn't not exist. The problem is manufactured by your own brain

[@Yeah-I-am-Me]

this video literally made me cry because of how accurate it is and that is not hyperbole

[@lorddevilfish5868]

Alternatively: “I am mentally ill, so my tribe has broken my bones and left me to the Megalania!”

[@ryjitarose5590]

I mean, this belief that conditions are a blessing/curse still exists in even Abrahamism

[@chasemcnab7610]

I still don’t get how Joan of Arc got the kind of schizophrenia where her voices are nice, helpful, and motivational, meanwhile everyone else with it seems to have paranoid assholes living in their heads.

[@Soulfulboy1111]

Opened head chakra: connecting strongly with the divine, happiness Blocked head chakra: Headaches, unpleasant inner voice, depression Hope that makes sense

[@dentkort]

Because she was was schizoaffective, not schizophrenic. Schizoaffectives have manic phases where they think they're invincible, and those phases come hand in hand with psychosis.

[@boomerpro87]

welp, i have gone prehistoric it seems. my menta illness is the "shamanistic, tripping balls on shrooms (legal variety) to see the future." i dead ass have been communing with entities through song.

[@liquidvicinity]

The industrial revolution and it's consequences took away my place as village shaman wise guy, now I am just guy

[@disclaimer7603]

The mentally ill today: *constant sounds of screaming, crying, hitting*

[@stormerkromy988]

Well I'd feel better if I was the damn shaman of a tribe

[@edheldude]

A shaman gets called. You will become one if that is your way.

[@ChadVulpes]

Unless you're a woman in the medieval era. Then you're burned at the stake...

[@equilibrum999]

only in Europe.

[@Guomundur]

i was born in the right generation.

[@Batman78488]

Me 2

[@xayax7920]

I go back and forth between gun-freak gamers and funny drag queen podcasts and while I can’t say I have friends to share that with at least I’m happy by myself

[@_maliciousIntent]

It does sound fun lol

[@Joedirt3349]

My guy you forgot the best part.. THE MEDS

[@TheAmazingHoho576]

Your thoughts will define many of your emotions. Guard them carefully and you will be happy.

[@nightsong81]

We are prophets and vessels of divinity, and the world dares call us mad.

[@spicymeatballs2thespicening]

What do you expect when your brain hallucinates false sensory input and you think everyone else is just blind

[@nightsong81]

@@spicymeatballs2thespicening From you? Nothing.

[@paganhalloween]

This is actually a REALLY big thing in psychiatry. Foucault wrote tons of books about it. Prior to the modern era the mentally ill were seen as possessing some varying level of 'madness' which was seen as its own unique type of knowledge. Doesn't men they were treated well, but it wasn't exactly they were fundamentally bad. When the modern era came around this idea of 'madness' warped into being 'innocent animality', those who were mentally ill became regarded as lesser, as requiring the assistance of a 'rational' person. The foundations of our system are within the idea modern psychiatry and we still see its impact today.

[@unlimiteddream792]

Foucault was a nonce though. Other people considered these arguments too, he wasn't the only one.

[@MsOkayAwesome]

Remember, if you can't produce and consume in the correct and standardized fashion, there's no room for you in today's world! 😄

[@RandomLuck12345]

So true

[@mooncake387]

There is no time better than now for any type of person.

[@taylorman666]

ADHD in prehistory: I am the best of my people, able to find the most food, and I am always attentive and ready to kill any predators ADHD today: Why can’t I focus on my homework?!

[@mattslams-windows7918]

Mood esp. for someone with high functioning ADHD 😅

[@JaneFlowerbird]

I can not tell you enough how i would probably be a great warrior in some ancient time, keeping a lookout at night with a wonky sleep schedule, being alert with anxiousness of whats to happen and being able to hear random little noises noone pays attention to because its just "a little bump in the night"

[@marblehelios932]

Im starting a new youtube channel cause of you. I finally got fed up of not chasing voice acting. In 2021 i uploaded a morditwi SAW meme and ive been chasing that high constantly, and im gonna do it. Thank you for being an awesome voice actor. (also gioggio or whatever his name is its long and italian)

[@burialgoods]

Good luck bro!

[@Tiogar60]

My mentally ill father was saved by pagan religion. It allowed him to access a whole different aspect of his being, even though he is neurotic as hell. I can't imagine where he would be if he hadn't

[@UntimelyEnded]

I was born.

[@SootyPhoenix]

I was hatched.

[@kyr...]

I was descended from heavens above.

[@JackAntony1]

Religion still exist guys, there is hope for the mentally ill

[@TheGloopOfMobius]

True it fits perfectly

[@Pokemonmovemaster]

We do have the former kind of people; they're called conspiracy theorists and homeless crack addicts. Now that I think about it's it's sad that those kinds of people are now just lolcows when, if born in another time, they'd be the shaman of the tribe no one saw for weeks on end but everyone would have cool if overly embellished stories about how they fought ancient spirits beyond our comprehension and would recieve food and shelter because they acted as important spiritual leaders.

[@samwallaceart288]

To be fair, human sacrifices was a pretty cringe idea; they can't all be winners

[@rastas_4221]

Because you can compare two completely different mental issues just like that.

[@rastas_4221]

You should see bipolar people in their mania phase and they still act like gods

[@thedawg-jc5mm]

Letus explore our own unending power that the universe attempts to strip from us by the creation of futility. We shant die without knowing that we are both the most terrifying and yet frivilous thing's that are yet the escape the great void brothers! and we should, undoubtebly use that power to scare the everliving shit out of the sick deity that made us.

[@louiscypher4186]

Of course the ironic part is actually mentally ill in prehistory would have been considered cursed by the gods and drowned in order to save the village.

[@honzavesely7322]

GIVE ME BACK MY TRIBE.🗣️🗣️🗣️

[@stanbrule9357]

Being mentally ill in the middle ages: AAHHHHHH THE FLAMES ARE RISING OH GOD IT BURNS

[@ccay4321]

I expected “the mentally ill today” to say “BRR SKIBIDI DOP DOP DOP YES YES SKIBIDI DOBUDU DIP DIP OHIO SIGMA FANUM TAX. KAI CENAT IS A RIZZLER AND YIU ARE BETA ROBLOX HAWK TUAH RIZZY DRAKE ” like a gen alpha

[@Batman78488]

You just cursed someone's bloodline and you don't even know it

[@Batman78488]

You also can't forget fanum tax

[@NastyArchive-qk7wr]

Being different today is a bad thing, even though we are told its good.

[@aleanddragonITA]

It always has been a "Bad Thing" At least in modern days they (mostly) not accuse you of poisoning the well, being a Vampire or a being a Witch and then Torturing you into Confession with using methods that can EASILY k*ll a Normal Person

[@joaco4927]

Mushrooms can help them both.

[@tj03297]

giving psychoactive mushrooms to a schizophrenic is like giving a loaded 12 gauge to a manic depressive

[@YankeeBedouin]

Epilepsy then: See and hear actual gods and angels then write thousands of words about it for everyone to read Epilepsy now: whoopsie your brain’s just a bit too busy pal, here’s a pill you can take

[@tomtoms8480]

We fell off 😢

[@cattysplat]

L for humanity.

[@calcium_skeleton]

It’s because back then, they weren’t worrying about society. They were only thinking about the cool stuff like axes and swords and stuff.

[@pls_mesempai2198]

Repent heretics! ✝️

[@TheHighStreetPunk]

That’s why I am going to become a nomad because fuck this corporate nightmare I am going to enjoy life to its fullest even like this

[@younesggalg]

Grandpa: i survived two world wars Kids nowadays: i died of depression

[@雷電Z]

That awesome moment when your Christian friend makes a Freudian slip and calls your belief in the leylines “witchcraft”

[@briitash]

Mentally ill today: [cuts off PP]

[@provi1085]

Truth spoken in memes. Bless

[@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.]

*Mentally-Ill Today:* _"I go to rallies and write BuzzFeed articles on climate change, LGBTPed-her-azt rights, and vape reviews. My wife's boyfriend thinks I'm cool."_

[@cattysplat]

Modern life: Constantly worrying about the future whilst constantly ashamed of our past. Prehistory: We survived another day. Might be dead tomorrow. We live now.

[@blackyonbi]

Mentally ill today : " please reffer to me as Xim/Xem/cheems"

[@salveteinfernum]

Isnt this just dismissing thousands of years of culture as mental illness? 🎉

[@le9038]

Controversial opinion:the prehistoric mentally ill weren't mentally ill

[@jesusojeda7850]

You're going veeeeery easy with the mentally ill today.