The doctor suggesting to the friends that the lip lift would look good on them too and feeding on their insecurities is a major red flag. Just cares about the money and not about the patients.
@gracieshepardtothemax1743 Жыл бұрын
Yea…. I am seeing that as more of a red flag. He wants the $. ETA I’m not against plastic surgery. I’ve had a breast reduction and would get Botox. But I would hope for the dr to know when enough is enough.
@edenthedollx Жыл бұрын
It was the editing! I asked him before he suggested it
@jeveloz47 Жыл бұрын
Yea most docs care about money only. Disgusting. I agree enough is enough.
@KAIJUKING123 Жыл бұрын
True
@KAIJUKING123 Жыл бұрын
@@edenthedollx wait..hold up…you react to these comments on this video. Wow also by the way if you and your doll friends wanna be fake and plastic looking then you do you it’s your life. Sometimes you just have to say F*CK THE HATERS and just be the truest you, you yourself can be same goes for your friends, as long as it doesn’t go to far to the point of it affecting your health and mental state ok. Much love
@AM-sk1tv Жыл бұрын
They're like "be confidant in yourself... love yourself.. be yourself!" and then spending thousands on plastic surgery. Way to go.
@ginag8723 Жыл бұрын
I know. Depressing.
@jeveloz47 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha. They looks like clowns with all that plastic done and make up. No normal girl wears that much well I take that back them chulas do. Hahaha. How can u be confident in yourself if you are into all that plastic and make up. Wrong message. Pam used to look so beautiful once upon a time ago and then she looks like the dudes from white chicks. Funny movie. Sorry but you guys said you wanted to give people something to look at. Well, they will definitely stare. YIKES!!!!! I keep hearing the dolls are here but I don't see no dolls. Gremlins perhaps. SMH.
@ducky_dr4ws Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and like “be yourself” if they want to be theirself, why Are they getting lots of plastic surgeries to look NOT like themselves?😢 But they seem like nice people, I just don’t get why anyone would change sooo much…
@andrijagrgic2357 Жыл бұрын
@@ducky_dr4ws why do you dress in a certain way to express yourself? There is more to it then just changing the appearance i think. Some people get tattoos some piercings some botox some bigger tits some to anabolics to get bigger muscles. In the end it is just the same thing, expressing one self to the outside.
@love-ip7sz Жыл бұрын
That's been irking me so much. Be yourself, oh but just like a hyper sexual almost cartoonish image...like is that REALLY who you are? Idk if I believe that...
@mike91mdk45 Жыл бұрын
"Being plastic and fake makes us feel alive." If that isn't one of the saddest sentences in human history...
@tyricegadson7699 Жыл бұрын
The Kardashians live it daily
@royery Жыл бұрын
This plastic beauty trend is creating soooo many insecurities and dysmorphia on people. They're setting ONE beauty standard: big lips, small nose, browlift, foxy eye shape, and face full of botox. Everybody ends up with the same facial features.
@lex.iii7 Жыл бұрын
yeah and fashion trend changes all the time… what are they gonna be like 10 years later
@Bunny11344 Жыл бұрын
Only for those who are insecure. I love my features and have no desire in getting injections fillers etc until I’m like old, old like 50-60. I really dislike that fake plastic look. It looks weird and unnatural.
@naughtyskyline Жыл бұрын
they say they want to be different than others, but,,,, everyone ends up looking the same, i actually love seeing someone with crooked teeth, or a grey hair streak etc, a laugh wrinkle, freckles etc, its more authentic and more attractive, that been said, as long as they are happy and trying to spread love thats better than being self absorbed eh
@Aryantics Жыл бұрын
The true beauties stand out even more now hehe
@Stalemarshmallow Жыл бұрын
You’re right hahaha it’s very weird. Everyone looks the same. But like I said Eden still has that lovely face I hope she doesn’t touch
@daniellebill7478 Жыл бұрын
Body dysmorphia on FIRE 🔥
@LL-ji2fd Жыл бұрын
You sound really dumb rn. Someone with body dysmorphia wouldn’t even want to leave the house
@KerryEriksson Жыл бұрын
Real Beauty come from within...
@Jesuisderetour87 Жыл бұрын
❤
@jeveloz47 Жыл бұрын
Yup
@steevenhyde3505 Жыл бұрын
I see nothing glamorous about tgeir possible body dysmorphia. If anything that doctor seems to be taking advantage of whatever issues they have. Just dreadful.
@Brooke-qm6zp Жыл бұрын
I’ve followed Eden for awhile & literally NEVER seen her with either of them before
@mariamaciel9256 Жыл бұрын
Skittles and Eden are literally always together
@psycho7.7 Жыл бұрын
Him*
@gothnerd887 Жыл бұрын
Which one's Eden?
@mariamaciel9256 Жыл бұрын
@@gothnerd887 the blonde
@deebuttress6391 Жыл бұрын
That weird I’ve seen them in weho together all the time going out
@francescadulash3511 Жыл бұрын
Eden was attacked out in public about a year ago. Glad it hasn't broken her confidence or self worth.
@jeveloz47 Жыл бұрын
Poor thing. Even though they look like clowns that shouldn't happened. No one deserves what she got.
@rosavisser5764 Жыл бұрын
@Tai R yes
@456loveluck Жыл бұрын
@T yes Known her since I seen her with elena (johnluuu)
@mshoney93019 ай бұрын
@goodintention3900 she is a trans woman yes
@asha.2223 Жыл бұрын
Eden is usually way more humble. Putting on a show for this segment. I usually love her. This was strange haha
@Brooke-qm6zp Жыл бұрын
Right it was so weird & forced
@psycho7.7 Жыл бұрын
Him*
@psycho7.7 Жыл бұрын
@@lvelylilies That's for women, Maybe you're slow so here's the correct pronoun for him 👉 *HIM* 👈
@psycho7.7 Жыл бұрын
@@lvelylilies He's a man, He born as man so he's a he and his pronouns are He/Him/His period. If you born as man you're man and you'll die as man since man cannot be woman 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭😭💀💀💀 Sad isn't?😭😭😭😭😭💔💔💔💔💔 If you're identify something you're not it's called Mental illness. Imagine someone identify as Rocks or Tree 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭💀💀💀 Seek help and take him with you 🤣🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭💀💀💀💔💔💔
@psycho7.7 Жыл бұрын
@@lvelylilies Seek help 💔 You have a dangerous sign of dangerous mental illness 💔
@naijaxdenique Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy because they’ll look good on camera and totally different in person! What’s gonna take a toll is the aging once their all older
@liyaah856 ай бұрын
yes I noticed that too! the people who look amazing on camera look crazy/too fake in person. It's really a big difference.
@woefulwarlock6381 Жыл бұрын
The girl with the really pouty lips already looks drop dead gorgeous. Absolutely out of this world gorgeous, hope she doesn't do anything extreme.
@Bunny11344 Жыл бұрын
I thought she was a guy she has masculine features
@Tigerman303 Жыл бұрын
She's not gorgeous, she's fake.
@bannedmann4469 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, was the most quiet too. Total keeper as a personal fuq doll.
@dope8003 Жыл бұрын
I think You don't know what's Gorgeous means
@CB-rw1ks Жыл бұрын
@@dope8003 I agree. People like that have their bar set on the ground.
@applepie7968 Жыл бұрын
They look odd. And pushing your agenda onto the massess by 'aspiring' others to get surgery done is going to cause major mental health issues for a lot of people. This is dangerous and i sincerely hope they get therapy.
@dcj9329 Жыл бұрын
I hope parents of today are educating their children and teaching them the value and definition of self-worth and self-love.
@samons4002 Жыл бұрын
huge hemorrhoids for lips is the new thing
@marlineable Жыл бұрын
"Being plastic and fake make us feel alive"🤔 High level of low self esteem and insecurities.
@Aryantics Жыл бұрын
She’s not the brightest….
@deebuttress6391 Жыл бұрын
You could use some work yourself Marline so I wouldn’t be talking
@thomasmagassouba518 Жыл бұрын
@@deebuttress6391 so would you get plastic surgery then?
@frenchfryfrenchie5402 Жыл бұрын
The gag is all of this is a sign of raging insecurity
@Bunny11344 Жыл бұрын
They don’t even look good ..
@セラフィナ Жыл бұрын
@@Bunny11344 right? the lips look so ugly
@meg2231 Жыл бұрын
one nice thing I can say is the white and gray flower tattoo on the side of his neck is truly unique and very beautifully done
@ginag8723 Жыл бұрын
You get turned away from a club so you completely change the way you look??
@jeveloz47 Жыл бұрын
Yeah he still looks the same. As in weight. Poor dude.
@tsigaraki_arvyla_xasan Жыл бұрын
this was so cringey
@jessicavarnell1014 Жыл бұрын
Frl, only 2:33 minutes in and I can’t even finish it nowayyy😅😬
@Jazz_Lovess Жыл бұрын
Ikr. This (to me) Is absolutely, positively one of the most Disgusting things ever. ( And that's just my personal opinion)
@LorenzWörmann Жыл бұрын
What
@charlenemack70406 ай бұрын
Extra extra cringe he, yep big time
@lotussong1 Жыл бұрын
Though I would never have plastic surgery, I don’t judge others who do. If you have the money, pain tolerance, and a desire to change your look, go ahead. After all, it’s your face, body, and money. However if you’re doing it out of deep insecurity or for other people, then you’ll never be happy with yourself. As for me, I’ll stick with diet, exercise, skincare, cosmetics, and fashion.
@562Prisyjalisco Жыл бұрын
Eden is beautiful but very different looking than her ig pictures you can tell she uses a lot of Facetune she doesn’t even need it !
@psycho7.7 Жыл бұрын
He*
@562Prisyjalisco Жыл бұрын
@@psycho7.7 *she
@psycho7.7 Жыл бұрын
@@562Prisyjalisco A whole dude in DISGUISE could never be a she 💀 Sad facts 😭💔
@Petermawila Жыл бұрын
@@562Prisyjalisco *she *her *miss *madam
@SmileG333 Жыл бұрын
It's a man so he has to overcompensate
@BeautifulRage4ever Жыл бұрын
To each there own....I love their friendship ❤
@dingo1666 Жыл бұрын
It's not a real friendship. It's as real and long lasting as their fake enhancements. They are co dependent.
@apara2005 Жыл бұрын
@@dingo1666 they have been friends for 20 years...what are you talking about???
@simpleplanfan011 Жыл бұрын
Plastic surgery will never be for me but I’m honestly so happy for them. They seem happy/nice and are so lovely towards each other. Good for them.
@aartimahajan7317 Жыл бұрын
I really cant understand why would someone do this, I think excessive money makes people very sluggish and less hardworking.Personally I didnt used to like the way I looked an year back, so I went to the gym and worked on myself.
@tobiaslawrence8928 Жыл бұрын
At least they are honest🤷♂️power to them.
@dingo1666 Жыл бұрын
It's sad that you think these people are honest and have power. If they were honest, they'd love themselves as they were, which would indeed show true power. All I see is people with mental problems making ducklips on the internet for imaginary fame for nothing of any value to them or society.
@greekmaster1001 Жыл бұрын
Honest? They are sick
@NachoJoshas Жыл бұрын
5:22 "surgery is very selective, for the people that can handle the criticism that comes with it" I'm affraid is just the opposite.
@myda1984 Жыл бұрын
It’s so interesting to see Eden’s unfiltered face. Ig is hilarious
@Youralllate Жыл бұрын
She looks the same wym
@blackswan5034 Жыл бұрын
@@Youralllatefr😅
@kurosawagin Жыл бұрын
I used to follow Pamela for 2 years now she has such a great spirit and warm hearted and the most humblest KZbinr and influencer out there 💕 she's beautiful both inferiorly and exteriorly ✨💗
@LipstickOCD Жыл бұрын
Can you please tell me her channel name
@kurosawagin Жыл бұрын
@@LipstickOCD youtube.com/@Pambetrippin
@leighx2169 Жыл бұрын
@@LipstickOCD Pam be trippin
@foo9877 Жыл бұрын
I think they’re cool and I’m happy that they are friends. I don’t think I would be friends with them but I’m glad they’re happy and wish them the best. I always feel bad for people like them because it seems so hard to keep up the image they’re portraying here
@dingo1666 Жыл бұрын
They are not happy. If they were happy they would go out and enjoy life and nature and accept themselves as they were. True happiness comes from within, not from plastic surgery or fake internet likes. These are very sad individuals inside.
@sabrinahope7794 Жыл бұрын
@@dingo1666 Stop with your assumptions.
@love-ip7sz Жыл бұрын
@@sabrinahope7794 I've been around the block. And no I don't think an obsession with plastic surgery and looking plastic is a reflection of good mental health. Is that projection to say? Don't need a psychology degree to figure it out man...
@TLOH7 Жыл бұрын
Everything these 3 enter the plastic surgeon's office, the plastic surgeon already feel 3 times richer instantly.
@Justthatgirlish Жыл бұрын
Does skittles know clubs have a dress code and can choose who to let whoever they want into their private property? It’s not discrimination. I see so many people who go crazy with the surgery say that they love themselves, yet if they loved themselves they wouldn’t get surgery!
@NetiNeti-gm5bz Жыл бұрын
Dysmorphia doesn't discriminate whether you love yourself or not or enlightened/ non-dual. One will only understand if they have dysmorphia. Also everyone is unique and as long as you have a beautiful heart and don't cause any afflictions towards anyone then why not express yourself in your own true unique way. Diversity is beautiful because it helps us grow
@SharonHF Жыл бұрын
I do agree with the first part of this, private places can choose who to let in and apply dress codes
@EsmeraldaWolfsbane7777 Жыл бұрын
That's it I'm leaving going to live on another planet 🛸😵✈️🌍🛸🧞♀️
@loriehokema7666 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@franceinegelven677 Жыл бұрын
That was so cute! Thk u Fr the laugh
@lauralopez-reese7116 Жыл бұрын
Is this for real? Are they acting? If not, they are very superficial and exaggerated. How can they see themselves as roll models when they are idolizing and encouraging so much plastic surgery and enhancements. It’s okay to promote acceptance and making positive changes, however their changes are so over the top and fake.
@lorenzcobretti9862 Жыл бұрын
gorgeous! we only got one lives each so i'm glad their making their lives enjoyable for them!
@deew1215 Жыл бұрын
It makes me sad that especially Skittles felt so judged, ostracised & unacceptable that he felt like he had to change his exterior. I hope he doesn’t run in circles that used to shun him. They don’t deserve his company. Love to everyone from Western Australia.🇦🇺
@BTSFavouriteArmy Жыл бұрын
We are all different, am surprised but not disappointed 🥰
@we.r.wine.bottles.im.at.work. Жыл бұрын
I kinda love their vibe tho
@onexonesie7 ай бұрын
I really love their acting skills. The fact that everyone believes this is hilarious.😂 "We used to get bullied together on the playground. 20 years later, and we still have wach other's back."
@nancybeingnancy3081 Жыл бұрын
Eden, girl .. it’s been a minute!! Good to see you livingggg 💯
@judemccooey4987 Жыл бұрын
Why is the butt cheeks hanging out ? Why am I so bothered by that
@sunset4408 Жыл бұрын
youre a prude
@apara2005 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE their friendship ❤️. I wish everyone would have such support.
@junegemini3092 Жыл бұрын
It’s ironic, Eden would have made fun of someone like “Skittles” a few years ago. I remember her mean girl streak when she hung around Blaire White.
@foxybrown3857 Жыл бұрын
I love Eden! I wish she posted more on KZbin.
@Honeypepper. Жыл бұрын
They tell *LIES* to each other constantly. "Do you love it" in the most irritating voice ever!!! 🙄 x10
@Bunny11344 Жыл бұрын
I had second hand embarrassment watching them act like they’re 13
@k172134 Жыл бұрын
Even doctor in shock from these crepesoids.
@sorthstudios Жыл бұрын
The fact that they want to "inspire" others to have plastic surgery/cosmetic procedures done is quite strange. "Why not not do it?" They ask. Well, for financial reasons, for example. Not everyone can afford cosmetic procedures/surgery. A second reason would be health reasons. All procedures comes with a risk. While it's good to want to give people confidence, maybe try to give people confidence WITHOUT them having to alter their appearance with the use of surgery/procedures.
@matthewmann8969 Жыл бұрын
And some people feel alive no matter what there outward appearances, defects, turnouts, or noticings look like yeah.
@amberrodriguez851 Жыл бұрын
I wish I could be one of those people you speak about! Must be nice!
@EsmeraldaWolfsbane7777 Жыл бұрын
I love myself despite my many defects... and even when I'm old and wrinkled..I will 💓
@MsSilentsiren Жыл бұрын
I like the little sparkly bits in Eden's hair.
@Pambetrippin Жыл бұрын
Omg it’s out !! 🎉🎉
@maniagonewild120 Жыл бұрын
I love their friendship
@mayanabrown430 Жыл бұрын
The Queen of the pack looks crazy with all the fillings in his lips. I'm happy for them all but ppl tend to go way too extreme with the plastic surgery
@haleyyoung3168 Жыл бұрын
I love the sparkles in the one girls hair
@1999nathanule Жыл бұрын
They are all so beautiful ,l love how they support each other
@mzluv6903 Жыл бұрын
Living in hollywood and west hollywood and having alot of plastic myself....i can honestly say most in this crowd are extremely creative. Everything is a potential canvas. Its as though we cant stop creating even when we try. Im sure these 3 have added creativity to their homes...vehicles and even pets. And everyday is another opportunity to play dress upl and wear a costume. I would have worn a costume everyday in elementary school if my mother would have let me!!
@ryb3198 Жыл бұрын
Gross!🤮
@tiffanymorris957 Жыл бұрын
Such meaningful lives. What are we becoming ? Just sad
@EtoThe1toTheV Жыл бұрын
Love them and their friendship!
@Deedoof Жыл бұрын
You can tell they're fun to be around, I love their energy!
@abitofeverythingbynastassi6273 Жыл бұрын
Eden is gorgeous lol
@ryb3198 Жыл бұрын
For a dude I guess he’s pretty ugly
@Aryantics Жыл бұрын
Yes, she should not change one thing.
@ryb3198 Жыл бұрын
@@Aryantics he changed everything about himself!
@charlenemack70406 ай бұрын
I’ll take it, this doctor would do just about anything you want done as long as you’ve got the money in your pocket
@MometoPink Жыл бұрын
Sending Love to 🌬 💖 💚 💛 all you FABULOUS Dolls!
@BecxyBoo Жыл бұрын
I think if people want to have surgery done and can afford to do so then they should do it. However, the lady saying "Having surgery has made her a better person" I just can't understand how having a cosmetic procedure can make you a better person?
@KAIJUKING123 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you just have to say F*CK THE HATERS and be the real you and not what others want you to be.
@alisonm3700 Жыл бұрын
Truly the world is the master of this world! He has engulfed it in darkness
@ExpressionsofAwakening Жыл бұрын
They are all so cute, the way they act.
@deebuttress6391 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a fan of Eden since the beginning and she is so stunning omgggg
@danfromspain Жыл бұрын
Therapy is usually more effective than surgery. It's interesting how they say that surgery has made them a better person.
@dabd8175 Жыл бұрын
Mental illness is real ppl.
@mshoney93019 ай бұрын
so is ableism
@moriahtuttle3701 Жыл бұрын
If the internet disappears one day these people will be lost.
@vincentvangoghaway7778 Жыл бұрын
I love Eden's Skittles jacket!
@Dwainecurtis2001 Жыл бұрын
Well at least the loved doing plastic surgery but seriously what would happen when they turn 60.
@Bunny11344 Жыл бұрын
They melt lol
@jeveloz47 Жыл бұрын
They gonna get out of a clown car together. 🚗
@geraldwarren6438 Жыл бұрын
@@jeveloz47 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🚗
@carlocatalano8859 Жыл бұрын
What world do these people live in?
@jeveloz47 Жыл бұрын
California lol
@Showtimekasa Жыл бұрын
💀 bro "Skittles" oh hell nah
@thehomohomie Жыл бұрын
GET EEEET!!!! DO WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPY BOOS!!!!❤️
@mariajade4084 Жыл бұрын
Yo! People don't have to agree with them or like them. It is their body. For me, I just hope they are kind people. People who treat others the way they want to be treated.
@mariekitty Жыл бұрын
I love their friendship ❤❤❤
@mizzhllywd Жыл бұрын
So self-centered, and the people on this channel are obsessed with getting photo shoots.
@wendybreault3157 Жыл бұрын
This dr is 120. How steady are his hands?
@Bunny11344 Жыл бұрын
Not steady enough lol they look 👀 really… interesting
@JDk22 Жыл бұрын
Plastic is the new way to go..pumped pumped n frozen..like I love it yall..it's amazing how much aging makeup n filter hides..#pumpednfrozen
@mickeyplastic Жыл бұрын
Skittles wants to be Mary so bad lmao
@voceval1 Жыл бұрын
Trying to be accepting about people's choices, but its like watching The Emperor's New Clothes. Being realistic, what's before us is lip deformity, and tattoos that look like a skin disease crawling up this person's body.
@njoyyy5248 Жыл бұрын
Being plastic and fake makes me feel alive lol
@jumpingscary514 Жыл бұрын
unreasonable excuse😂😂😂
@buffytsoodle9162 Жыл бұрын
All of you look beautiful no matter how u look outside ❤❤❤❤ I love all you guys looks...
@Stalemarshmallow Жыл бұрын
Glad Eden has not messed with her beautiful face
@lifeismagical3123 Жыл бұрын
I have lip fillers and veeners but I’d never put filler in my chin, cheeks or under my eyes and my body is nice naturally by eating healthy and working out so I wouldn’t do nothing like surgery to permanently alter myself
@KahlessTheUnforgettable Жыл бұрын
You shoulda got that one with the beard to say “Look boss, the plane, the plane!”
@sandp6900 Жыл бұрын
HAHA I’m only in my mid-20s but my parents used to watch that show I think. Fantasy island? 😂
All have Beautiful hearts. I just wish that's what people primarily focus on more than their appearances and expressions
@MartinMartin-bh4ke Жыл бұрын
Promoting the destruction of a human being for the sake of your narcissistic self hatred that comes from being exposed to the Truth means you need to see a psychiatrist.
@broll7805 Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought he wanted to be a clown at the start
@jeveloz47 Жыл бұрын
Kinda is one TBH. Look at them. It doesn't work for them.
@broll7805 Жыл бұрын
@jeveloz47 💯 my thoughts exactly lol
@earl4922 Жыл бұрын
Bro, imagine if Skittles was a rapper…
@cloverflower2820 Жыл бұрын
At least they're admitting the want and like being fakes!! I kn a lot of people who act the part but don't admit that!!!
@samanthav563 Жыл бұрын
They're probably staring at the dark girl because she's so beautiful, not because of her skin tone. But being from a different culture maybe that's what makes her feel like people stare I don't know. Either way good luck everyone ❤️❤️
@djmisskroft8313 Жыл бұрын
Pamela is gorgeous!
@VasiliiTsar Жыл бұрын
The brunette girl is so stunning 🤩
@jeffisawesomer Жыл бұрын
they’re all so nice and energetic. love and support❤️
@pinpoint11 Жыл бұрын
What kind of job is "queen of everything"
@dabd8175 Жыл бұрын
Means a wannabe influencer. AKA unemployed
@Maskara411 Жыл бұрын
ACTUALLY he works in the medical field 💁🏽♀️ and is an extremely humble person. His choice of how he wants himself to look has NOTHING to do with who he is as a person .Assuming he’s unemployed says more about you then him 🤭
@dabd8175 Жыл бұрын
@@Maskara411 working as a janitor in a hospital doesn't count as "medical field " 😂😂😂
@Maskara411 Жыл бұрын
@@dabd8175 he’s not a janitor smarty pants 🤦🏽♀️
@jeveloz47 Жыл бұрын
@@dabd8175 I died to this comment. You definitely won this battle.
@Lol-yf5td Жыл бұрын
What kind of sense of fashion is that I don't understand how anyone would find it stylish and good looking
@dope8003 Жыл бұрын
This world is missing the meaning of self confidence
@Stardust_7273 Жыл бұрын
I'm just seeing negative comments on here. They all seem happy with who they are, so why is everyone judging?
@creatingmyreality1386 Жыл бұрын
no inner work then? thats not hate , its love and truth x
@mikemurphy5898 Жыл бұрын
Something tells me skittles is paying for this "lifestyle"
@amandanoelle5701 Жыл бұрын
Why would any reputable doctor think that adding more filler or Botox to his lips would be a good thing?