Belichick & Lombardi Scout Top College QBs | Part 1

[@alexmyers3000]

Between this and Gruden’s new KZbin show…football fans are getting blessed with a wealth of knowledge this year

[@CoffeeStain-Music]

So nice and refreshing to hear real football talk and not just the mindless hot takes and bad jokes you hear on TV now.

[@wishingb5859]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@jewelsthesky6759]

Fr. And they don’t just cover the same 6 teams (chiefs, cowboys, giants, sf, etc).

[@ReformedJerry]

I’ve learned more from this show and grudens show the last month than 10+ years of watching first take and undisputed

[@BratatoChip]

Yeah because these guys have decades more experience than the clowns on those shows have

[@alanchristie368]

Stephen A and Skip are nothing more than shock jocks.

[@michaelbailey6036]

There are those who know football then those that know the hype. My go to football content and I coached for 10 years.

[@milesgrant3507]

Yeah I mean both coaches who won a super bowl in the sport

[@thedarkfrost2351]

@@Titleist24bros won six super bowls. How many has any idiot on first take or undisputed?

[@DrewKeister]

This is top tier KZbin content. I’m glad Bill stayed independent and didn’t sign exclusive with ESPN or Fox. Free to do his own thing, and boy is it beautiful.

[@ElfroralckDulyx]

That Edgar cut is fire lambo

[@fye537]

It suits him doesn't it

[@Dani_ILL]

Bill and Lombo already talking about who they gonna draft next year when they are with the giants

[@marcelstewart9156]

Damn yall don’t like daboll?

[@Garrettguy5]

@@marcelstewart9156you DO?

[@fabo0913]

@@marcelstewart9156 Daboll just a Josh Allen merchant

[@gabrielz6849]

​@@fabo0913 um no he's not. He's a phenomenal offensive coach. For example, his first year there where they're greatly over performed.

[@williamblake8560]

How do you know that Daboll going to be gone next year. He can end up still coaching the Giants in 2025

[@murrethmedia]

Two of the greatest minds in football ever. What a time to be alive!

[@anrit5972]

For a person that grew up in Australia and didn’t grow up playing gridiron this type of insight is invaluable. 20 years I have been watching the NFL and I am only just starting to learn defences. The only mainstream type show that delves into any real strategy is the Pat McAfee show when Darius Butler and A Q Shipley have their segments.

[@dougnixon6464]

cool insight to who bill will draft with the giants #1 pick next year!

[@AskSeebs]

Life long pats fan. I’m just happy I still get to hear this man’s insight somewhere.

[@isitsustainable820]

Do more draft scouting like this! This is superb content

[@vancebacri5894]

I’d like to see Bill broadcast a few games this year . need him for Thanksgiving Day this year.

[@clarencethomas01]

He's been doing the first half of the manningcast. Probably as close as you'll get

[@michaelreid5615]

Not sure if you will see this Mr. Belichick. But, your work in the media is greatly appreciated. So nice to see the real minds of football sharing their knowledge. Thank you

[@vonschafer3524]

Lombardi & BB are a dynamic team--love listening to them talk football!

[@ElephantCages]

I notice something in Ward, last night v SF there was about 5 occasions where Ward almost got sacked but got outta the way right at the last sec or he shovel passed it, or once even lateraled it as he was being takled. He has some awareness! I bet that'll be something he's known for. Love the show. God bless.

[@kristopherjoy8992]

John Mateer WSU. Obviously not a top of the draft QB, but I think he’s worthy of a team taking a flyer on. Probably won’t come out until after next season, but this dude is 6’1” ~220lbs, broke an 82 year old school record with 200 yards rushing, just put up over 500 total yards with 5 tds, can run and throw for big numbers. 3tds in the 4th quarter, marched his team up the field in less than 30 seconds to tie and then won in OT. Exciting player to watch. He’s basically his team’s entire offense. If his accuracy can improve he could very well become top tier. Even still, 16TDs and over 1500 yards in 4 games raises my eyebrows Hasn’t faced top level opponents, but he did beat UW (sorry Bellichek! Lol) and San Jose state isn’t exactly trash this year. They put up 52 points in their first loss of the year. Looking forward to seeing this kid progress. If you haven’t seen him, check him out! Moves like a running back and can throw for 350, 400 yards in a game.

[@Ixis04]

As a WSU student, I can't wait to see how Mateer develops over the year. Definitely feels like an old-school college QB from the 2000s or 2010s, who does enough with the arm to get respect, but the rushing ability is ELITE. He's definitely done more with his arm from the pocket in recent weeks, which is an indicator that he can develop into an NFL passer in the future. Love the guy, and Pullman loves to have him. He'll probably get ignored in the media, cus the Cougs never get any headlines, but I hope Mateer stays an extra year with us instead of transferring last minute like Ward.

[@MGAF688]

No hot takes. No yelling. No screaming. Just real observations.

[@wolf7el356]

I would LOVE to see you guys scout CB's as well.

[@Seanking22]

These shows are so good

[@VanEdwards35]

This show is amazing

[@ahmadkadura2619]

I love Lombardi’s pumpkin pie haircut

[@joereeves8259]

Its a toupe!

[@TommyTBags]

Pumpkin piece

[@Garrettguy5]

Literally toupee

[@nc2933]

I just think it's a shit haircut.

[@INVERTEDBUKAKI]

lying like a rug!

[@SanjitT]

Great channel!! Keep it up Bill

[@TheGreatness-gg1jx]

The MAESTRO!!!! Outstanding. Happy to sub.

[@w1ll1am61]

I can watch these two talk ball all day

[@mikeylala8076]

Been craving this kinda content. Been saying for years, all ESPN gives us is injury and signing/trading news. Very little on the field stuff out there to consume

[@davidstronach3261]

So much better than First Take or Good Morning Football

[@TheObvious1890]

Hoodie and Chucky on KZbin.... What a time to be alive 🎉

[@gabelarsen4375]

Gruden and Bill came to save us from the NFL drama/hot take shows and channels to just talk BALL! 🏈🏈❤️👏

[@manimavuso]

Interested to hear Coach Belichick’s analysis on Shedeur Sanders

[@vicgilmore1134]

Exactly…I wonder did they skip him on purpose to hold their cards close to the vest or do they not consider him top 3….

[@chriselkins6771]

​@vicgilmore1134 could just be because it's belichick and he doesn't want to deal with the Sanders family nonsense if he says anything negative. Bill don't take no BS

[@georgealvarez1195]

He's a worse version of Caleb Williams. And Caleb has horrible fundamentals and zero ability to read defenses.

[@jerodmayoINC]

I guarantee bill does not like that kid, no humility whatsoever

[@rpmredshogan]

It’s only part 1 why do none of you read the tittle he analyze and critique Shedeur when it’s comes

[@zhammer2237]

Bill, could you do a video scouting college LB’s? If you do, could you take a look at Buffalo’s Shaun Dolac? Leads all of college football in tackles. Would love to hear your opinion.

[@Liface]

This feels like cut dialogue from the scouts scene in Moneyball.

[@Dlove383]

It sucks bill got fired but this is a good consolation prize. Awesome show

[@scruffd0g193]

He’s getting a job next January. The entire NFc East outside of Washington is gonna need a new head Coach.

[@theman52290]

I would give anything to see bill and gruden talk ball for like an hour

[@loveserveascend]

Sweet stuff

[@gtc1554]

Beck is playing w a lot of great players, like Caleb Williams did last year.

[@andrewcadet2201]

I love this channel

[@andyjackson5404]

Subscribed… it’s a No Brainer

[@adams8585]

Gruden, Lombardi, Belichick, Saben, these are all guys we want to see. Not talking heads on ESPN

[@jasonmoehl6994]

As the season goes on and perhaps a part 2 of QB evaluation I would suggest Brady Cook from Missouri Tigers 🐯

[@wishingb5859]

Wow, this is great!

[@tidal_records]

Need Ernie as your wing man on this show. Thanks for the inside scoop coach.

[@Gopats]

Love this combination, my two favorites speaking football man

[@davidhoban364]

i feel like i should have to pay a monthly subscription to watch this insight

[@marcoescuandolas]

Don't give them any ideas

[@jeremywyeth7163]

SHUT UP, ANGELA!!

[@SoulSnatcha]

Be quiet fool

[@scottohara9001]

Watch your mouth 😂

[@vicgilmore1134]

🤫

[@Shamsy_UT]

Lombardi insights 😴 Belichick insights 🔥

[@ceezy585]

Giants fans,its imperative that DJ remains our starter. We must lose every game, forget pride. Luckily our schedule is looking tough. To break the cycle we have to lose now.

[@littlenugs9942]

Yes Bill we miss you bud! I was screaming, fix the O-line during the draft (24). I wanted the Patriotd to trade back and get the best they could get for that third round pick. I think this kid would of been a better prospect than Maye... IMO of course. Really sorry you could break that record in New England. Next season for sure if you decide to coach again..

[@RoryMackenzie-l6t]

Nice!!!

[@rob111094]

Go Knights! Big win

[@jakethornton4856]

I really thought Sean Payton did a disservice to Bo Nix during the preseason. He wanted him to be the starter so bad he ran so many RPO's to get him completions when we know he can do that and I thought he should have been getting Bo work in the drop back pass game and under center play action. I also really like the "under center" take that Bill had, I have been complaining about the Eagles not running under center since Steichen was there and I loved Steichen and I have complained even more since he left. I feel like teams that stay in the gun take away a lot of options from the offense when in the NFL a coach should use every tool that is available to them

[@CoopersDescent]

Can you guys take a look at KURTIS ROURKE from Indiana? Good size, can run, has a great deep ball.

[@stapleboss]

Can you address on your show why football looks so bad right now? It's like every game is a Thursday night game.

[@alexmyers3000]

Hey would you say Josh Allen is the pinnacle of the Milroe/Richardson type of QB…just thinking back to how raw Allen was coming out of Wyoming….Big Arm/Great Athlete/Great Size

[@MrSpicabooo]

Josh allen is wat cam newton was suppose to be. But hey wtf do i know.

[@joeshmoe8134]

Josh Allen is one of the best PASSING QBs in the NFL. To say Richardson or Milroe are even in the same category is insane. Neither of those QB’s will ever be successful in the passing game. Too stupid to understand NFL defenses.

[@alexmyers3000]

@@joeshmoe8134 no no no Joe…I’m not saying they’re at his level at all, just that they have his template (if they improve over time like Allen did they could get to his level)…and look at the tape, Allen was not a great passer his first couple years in the league he had a passer rating of 67.9 🤮 with 10 tds and 12 picks…YOU DONT KNOW BALL JOE…also how the fuck do you know how smart Richardson is??

[@ThreadAndCircuses1]

@@joeshmoe8134 This is a harsh comment, but it's not being stupid, it's not being able to process fast enough. 99.99 percent of college QBs can't process quickly enough at the NFL level.

[@natetewkesbury]

*The Josh Allen "Template" is most comparable to Ben Roethisberger. Allen is just faster and more dynamic. Milroe, Richardson, and even Hurts are not the same type of "Template" Roethlisberger and Allen both 6'5 and over 235lbs but use their size to keep plays alive, create out of structure by keeping there eyes down field, always looking to make the pass. Buy time with the backyard, scramble ability and break tackles but still would rather make a throw to the WRs. Mahomes is the same. But it was Roethlisberger that started this play style when QBs like Brady, Manning, and Brees all preferred to stay in the pocket and stay within the game plan. Difference is that Big Ben, Allen, and Mahomes all played QB within the pocket, in the Offensive structure on a elite level as well. Those 3 QBs and to a lesser degree, Aaron Rodgers, all had the same template. Always keeping plays alive with their instincts, natural feel for the game, and big arms. They all have cannons and can throw on the move with different arm angles as well. Brady, Manning, and Brees just never had to do any of this. I would also say that Allen has a long way to go to get to the Roethlisberger or Rodgers level as far as being pure QBs. Once those players got into their 30's they dialed the playmaking back some and was more of the pocket passer. But I say all this b/c the Milroes, Richardson, and Hurts are not those guys. They don't see the game the same way or have that "feel or instinct" for what the Defense is doing or how they are being game planned for. These QBs today are much more dynamic with elite athletic ability but none of those QBs mentioned have even taken snaps from under center and ran pro-style Offenses. And in the NFL you have to be able to do both. Most the QBs today have 2 or 3 reads and then take off and run. Big Ben, Rodgers, Mahomes, and Allen all was taught or learned to read defensive coverages, not the WR, and would take off to pass. Big difference. Caleb Williams is very much in the mold of these QBs. I also see some of that in Jordan Love game too. Jaden Daniels can play that way at times but is more from the RG3 or Lamar template, and uses his athleticism to make plays with his running ability. Although I do think Daniels has the tools to do both like Mahomes and Allen. One other QB I somehow failed to mention that also was just like the Big Ben/Josh Allen type was Russell Wilson. Yes he played the same exact way. And this is the best version of QB in today's NFL, no debate. Every GM or Coach wants the Roethlisberger, Rodgers, Russ, Mahomes, and Allen type QB*

[@smokejensen_]

This is the type of show JJ and Lebron thought they were making.

[@jameshoops10]

woah! did you watch those podcasts or were you too caught up in the narrative?

[@smokejensen_]

@@jameshoops10 it was supposed to be an X’s and O’s based podcast for hoop nerds. It turned into talking about very basic concepts for 20 minutes and Lebron and JJ bullshitting

[@jameshoops10]

@@smokejensen_ i think they were slowly building up to the advanced stuff but that got cut short maybe if they did more breakdowns in the playoffs that might’ve helped

[@smokejensen_]

@@jameshoops10 after JJ gets fired maybe he can make a better one

[@jameshoops10]

@@smokejensen_ lol yea

[@CallaRan24]

Cam Ward is Him!

[@FMLothario]

Bill with the Nikes on

[@bobwhite2]

Bill is going to put Kuiper and company out of the QB assessment business

Pumpkins are in the air💀

[@lilbrusselsprout8261]

Bill scouting the QB he’s going to coach for the giants next year 👀

[@bobwhite2]

The first QB reminds me of early Watson.

[@davewielhouwer11]

Belichick still with the "rotational " player at Michigan narrative with Brady. Cowherd says the same thing. Bradys junior year he started and finished every game. His senior year he started every game but they had to give Drew Hensen playing time. Hensen, the most highly recruited player since Marcus Dupree, was also signed by the Yankees. Had Hensen stayed playing football at Michigan, Mel Kuiper said he would have been the #1 overall pick. Regardless, after the MSU game Coach Llyod Carr ended the "rotation" and Brady didnt have to share snaps. Brady was at Michigan 5 years, started 26 games. MVP of the Orange Bowl. Had he not run the 40, he would have been drafted in 2nd or 3rd round

[@Jaxontimothy]

How bout BC QB Castellanos. Bill has BC dominating rn. I want Isiah Bond on the pats too

[@estlace]

Let’s see the tape on Mac Jones

[@the_aovision]

That anticipation for Milroe will be a problem

[@Stankfing]

Agreed he does not throw with anticipation on many throws as of now

[@the_aovision]

@@Stankfing I hope it improves. A lot of college guys and some of these “good” nfl guys don’t have that anticipation in their toolbox

[@joeshmoe8134]

Run first QB’s like Milroe will put up great combined numbers in college where he can throw to the first read or run it. But to be successful in the NFL, you can’t read defenses like a high school level QB and be successful.

[@ThreadAndCircuses1]

It's a problem for most NFL QBs, they're just drafting players with the best physical tools nowadays.

[@jchung1506]

Did Lombardi say the pumpkins are in the air? 😂

[@adrian33161]

Lombardi has a hard on for Bo

[@tommyoshady]

The pumpkins are in the air?

[@dantheman8152]

Cool

[@smoochiemane]

It seems like Bill and I share the same sentiments about Beck. Not very excited watching the tape, I don’t hate him but would not use a top pick on him.

[@jameshoops10]

bo nix & carson beck? the only similarities is their ability to process the game but other than that i don’t see the comparison

[@EZ-AllenWrench]

Word

[@jmdubbs1354]

I hope that they don’t do receivers with Bill’s record of drafting receivers

[@WestonDood]

Why is no one talking about Quinn Ewers?

[@paulleclaire8252]

This rules

[@antball775]

I don’t think Wards nowhere close to Stroud, Strouds is one of the better pocket passers I’ve seen in sometime

[@MrJoker-]

Wonder if Bill would coach college ball? Be cool if he did.

[@Jaxontimothy]

This show should be taken first takes spot or I’d like to see Nick Wright be shoved out the door and that show and give Belichick that tv spot

[@MaxGiese-j5q]

More Bill less Mike talking please.

[@RoyalPRife]

The pumpkins are in the air…

[@jameshoops10]

cam ward comparing to cj stroud? nahhh more like the pat mahomes, caleb williams play style

[@bobaz1]

The real star of this episode is Lombari's toupe´

[@CanesRaiders96]

Mike, sounds like you’re not a Cam Ward fan. First you start with him going to 3 schools and how he pulled out of the draft because of NIL and how much Miami money Miami gave him. His draft stock after least year was not high, I am sure if he was a projected first rounder he would’ve gone. This is a guy who was a 0 star recruit and has busted his tail to where he’s at now

[@nc2933]

This is the anti-Stephen A. 😎

[@MrSpicabooo]

Can we really say they know their scouting? I mean brady being the goat was luck obviously they didnt expect him to be the goat since he was drafted late round, then mac jones was drafted and we saw how that worked out? And im not attacking bellichick or lomabardi i means as a whole in the league, like theres a big inability to properly scout the qb position and honestly seems more like a crapshoot on the qb chosen actually working out in the league.

[@brianmyers4444]

Brady was not Mr Irrelevant....

[@iiTzoreo1]

Yeah this shouldn’t be free to watch

[@nolifezay4636]

I could make these bum ahh analysis’s

[@Rianwrong]

Come bill how could you not evaluate Sheuder Sanders

[@NOxSPLOOSHxPLANE]

Jaxon dart

[@jp783]

Here’s the first video they’ve put out where they expose themselves a bit. “You draft a QB based on what he can do in your offense”. Bullcrap. It’s the other way around and they know it because Belichick’s career was saved by a QB his scouting people drafted in the 487th round of the draft, so what does that tell ya?

[@joeshmoe8134]

Wow. I’m amazed at how wrong you can be. It’s impressive. Brady is the ultimate Bill Belichick QB which is why they drafted him. Late round pick who manages the game and can make every throw the defense gives him. It’s also the reason Lamar went 32nd overall. He didn’t fit any teams system.

[@jp783]

@@joeshmoe8134 are you a bot?

[@alexsosa5727]

is that a hair piece on Lombardis head? wtf is that thing?

[@downtoearthdad7741]

I pray to the football gods Lombo and Bill take over the Cowboys next season. 🤞

[@andyjackson5404]

Oil & water … jones & belichick. Giants - seems more realistic

[@FredArmitage-e2i]

Oh my God. It’s amazing how he fell into Brady. His QB evaluation is comical. Milroe either runs or throws up a jump ball.

[@wishingb5859]

This show has already made me mad at sports journalism and all its drama. They are like junk food- now we get to have whole meals.

[@arthasmenethil4297]

Then how come you drafted like crap for 10 straight years with the pats?

[@joeshmoe8134]

I just don’t understand modern QB play and evaluation. If a QB’s major skill is he’s good at running the ball or someone you don’t want to tackle in the 4th qtr, he’s not a competent/starting QB in the NFL. He’s just not. It works in college where the skill level is low, but these types of QB’s are not franchise/SB winning players.

[@Luk3d411]

College is not producing good qb’s, even with all the 7 on 7 when they are young

[@ee-tl9ir]

98% of football analysis is nonsense. This is the 2%

[@samright4661]

Name a QB Bilichek hit on? None

[@twoggspromos5948]

@samright4661 why are you even here 😂 go glaze tom Brady

[@samright4661]

@@twoggspromos5948 Tom Brady was a 6th round pick!

[@samright4661]

@@twoggspromos5948 Look how Mac Jones worked out

[@twoggspromos5948]

@@samright4661 that has nothing to do with what I said slow poke 😭 you are not that bright huh 😂

[@samright4661]

@@twoggspromos5948 It has plenty to do with it! His other QBs was trash

[@jimh3595]

LOL. milroe = richardson

[@indymustangs32]

Quinn Ewers is better than all of these guys

[@whatsthebigfndeal]

Beck is a bum.

[@Greggers1516]

Bill has a terrible record in drafting

[@Dawg-Bone]

15:43: That’s really debatable actually. The offensive line hasn’t been elite, but it’s been MUCH better than it was last year, and Young’s still playing poorly.