A Bit of WoW I HATE Is Being Replaced! 11 Updates From Blizzard

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[@CosmicCleric]

FYI the "Watch Next" video displayed at the end of this video (end credits) does not match what you were actually saying at the end (about the funky 'fish'). What I see is a video about 17 Warcraft tweaks.

[@FarseekerGaming]

I’ll go check it out. Is this beginner friendly? As in no knowledge at all?

[@Fantic1980]

IT's not the swirlys that are the problem. Its having green swirlys on green grass (Fungle Folly) and purple swirlys on a purple floor (Nerub-ar Palace)

[@saltywings41]

Nah Swirlies are the problem. They aren't well defined lines and it yes, is obviously worse when its the same colors as well.

[@markburton5292]

that is part of it for sure. but having inconsistency in being in or out of the swirly. and having every encounter being swirly Heking thing sucks. it isn't "fun" not everyone enjoys Bullet hecking type game style constant move move move game play is not for every one.

[@daztora]

Ff14 mechanics markers are where it's at, don't need addons and a boss mod to deal with those, this is what WoW needs, clear consice markers.

[@deathgnomes]

Or hidden under textures/vegetation so you can't see them. Or distorted because of strange terrain interactions(i.e. stairs, ramps, ect..) Couldn't tell you how many times I couldn't see the area for a mobs one-shot in a Delve and lost a life to it.

[@Shiirow]

yes the swirlies werent the issue, it was undefined boundaries and merging with the background that was the issue.

[@AZJAG]

The chef can horribly undercook my steak too and say we can just throw it back on the grille for a couple minutes, but I still think the chef who cannot cook a streak is incompetent.

[@Duhzy]

better to undercook the steak than overcook and ruin it completely

[@jelmer-hendrikveen2722]

@@Duhzy If i pay 15 bucks a month and a 40 bucks boxprice the steak better be fucking perfect medium rare when it arrives.

[@DarkMegaPlague]

@@jelmer-hendrikveen2722 its already overcooked befoe it has reached the grill

[@stonedruid]

I thought the whole point of Delve was to be an alternate gear path, why is everything funneling into M+, stop making raiders and delvers do M+.

[@John-df3lm]

Exactly. Someone got it into their head that M+ is fun for raiders. I would say delves are better as a feeder for raids and M+ needs to be broken off like pvp

[@NiteSaiya]

Crazy that no other part of the game gets as much criticism from the players as M+ but that's where they seem to keep wanting to force us. It's like they want to undo 15 years of progress by force and don't realize the cat's out of the bag and the barriers to entering and staying in M+ are too high. If they want more interest in M+ they should prevent people from demanding your birth certificate and credit score just to do a +8.

[@vash_dakari]

The Dev's wanting to funnel solo content players into group play just to finish challenges in their solo play is stupid beyond belief. If max level delves require a certain ilvl, then that ilvl should be attainable through delves. If you're too scared to offer the gear necessary to do that, then you need to nerf delves to where that's feasible. Of course the obvious answer is right in front of them, which is to buff delve loot beyond +8 difficulty, and nerf Mythic difficulty so they don't feel like they're being cheated by not doing delves. They're failing to meet in the middle and that just causes grumbling from everyone.

[@EnhancedNightmare]

They should double down and make the gear uniquely suited for delves. They play different than raids/mythic so why not. WoW is already many games within one, especially since the just dropped whole pokemon thing in there lol xD

[@BloodyCanadian]

Well you'll never get a job at Blizzard. That made way too much sense.

[@Notorious1441]

Delves are significantly easier than other endgame PvE content (M+/raid). It makes perfect sense that their rewards are not as good as doing the most difficult content in the game. This is an MMO. "Solo content players" should not feel entitled to the most powerful items in the game.

[@EnhancedNightmare]

@@Notorious1441 Yeah totally, why not split it like pvp/pve?

[@John-df3lm]

@@EnhancedNightmare That’s kind of interesting, a lot of people asked for M+ dungeons to be broken off into their own thing like pvp when they started cannibalizing the raid community. Delves would actually be a better feeder for raids than M+ at current skill/gear levels.

[@sabalmal1288]

Thank you, you clearly get it about the delves to mythics+ transition. Mythics has proven to be the most toxic experience I have ever had and YES BLIZZARD please make delves 9+ drop better gear. I would rather crush those for hero gear.

[@yoshums7970]

Your take on delves is 100% how I feel. It sucks being a delve-only player. My gear progress was done weeks ago, and I'm stuck at a soft-cap now.

[@silentstephi]

I swear to f-ck i do not want to be smashed into mythic because they nerf delve rewards. Why can't they just have parellel paths and give us harder delves? I just want gear that makes the grind a bit less deadly, I've had so much fun with delves and soloing or duoing 8s with my partner, i don't want to be forced to do group content just to make world content manageable. Arg!

[@txdmsk]

Exactly. Just make Delve gear its own thing, like PvP gear. Make delve gear useless in M+ and raid.

[@tenchi132nagasblood9]

​@txdmsk so you want to force people into m+ NO

[@kellynine7438]

The need to let Delves exist as it's own endgame pillar on par with the other pillars, rather than have it be a junior pillar like it is now. I do not enjoy Mythics, and there is nothing they can do to Delves that will change that -- but they can make Delves feel more rewarding than they currently do.

[@John-df3lm]

This is the majority thinking for sure. I think it just takes time for them to see that most people still don’t want M+ content.

[@txdmsk]

Delves are nice. Hopefully it will take as many down syndrome players from other forms of the game as possible. They just need to make delve gear only useable in delve. Like PvP gear, just harsher.

[@SupremoMancoSama]

pls remove the cap of valorstones and remove the requirement of 250 per spark, honestly for most of the people doing 8+ valorstones are lacking like hell, everything ask way too much, but you can't be saving them from the beginning because there is the stupid cap of 2k making you have to use it on stupid veteran gear or sometimes even champion when you want to save it, why put a cap if you there is no weekly cap?.

[@Amadorius1k]

Bro i cap it x2 a week if i play daily

[@SupremoMancoSama]

@@Amadorius1k i also cap it, but you didn't get the point? IT FORCES YOU to use it, and 95% of the time i am not missing crest, i am missing those god damn valorstones, if they are not going to weekly cap it, then don't cap it. it's stupid.

[@gymonstarfunkle136]

​@@SupremoMancoSamaI'm opposite I'm always out of crests and get stonecapped really quickly

[@DisgruntldMonky]

Yeah always at 2k stones.

[@txdmsk]

If you are not constantly capped on valorstones you probably have more chromosomes than necessary.

[@Zectifin]

blizzard need to realize that not everyone watches WoW content on youtube and checks out the patch notes. Sometimes people just jump in for an event that everyone is talking about, it feels like super grindy shit and they are a very casual player so they just log out and go play another game and don't come back. They are going to lose those players everytime.

[@jjabcircle]

Mythic Delves with endgame crests as a part of the end chest reward. (60-80% amount of a mythic+ group)

[@HawkknightXC88]

Azshara should have her own expansion. BFA really rushed Nazjatar and wanted to see more of under the sea.

[@terjelunde1]

could not disagree more

[@stormstrider1990]

BfA should have been about her rather than the stupid faction war. They could still have worked in Kul Tiras and Zandalar.

[@rhivan6921]

I'm hoping that Midnight is Azshara's expansion tbh.

[@josejuanandrade4439]

I agree, we need a whole expansion underwater! Vash'jir is still one of the most beautiful zones ever created. I just got to visit it again now for the secrets event and man, i miss when wow did look like that!

[@allwet66]

never never never under sea again.

[@jdsim9173]

08:50 You left out the part you need 1000 M+ rating to get the chests

[@senka2578]

Again, solo players are being forced to play M+ where they will be deflected by other players who like to gate the access to gear upgrades.

[@AnAfinityForKarma]

It’s an MMO, that stands for Massively Multiplayer Online. Go play a single player game if that’s what you want to play. Or stop complaining about having to do multiplayer things in a multiplayer game. Weirdo.

[@143tg]

That’s just not true, its not just “solo players “ or “M+ players”. The reality is it’s ALL players that brick keys and refuse to learn so they create excuses and gaslight. That’s just WoW community now.

[@ehlarien]

Ion, you won't be funneling me to M+. You'll be funneling me out of subscribing. The only thing you could do to funnel me into M+ is somehow reenvision the way to get into M+ groups.

[@Meeces55]

Get rid of timers and make the mobs stronger. Boom every single problem m+ has is fixed instantly

[@John-df3lm]

Add gilded crests to lower M+, put anything under a 5 in lfg finder, and take away timers. Game set match.

[@bootnscoot5265]

This is what im talking about. They have a system that isn't pairing well with many players and instead of acknowledging it and adjusting it, they pat themselves on the back and turn their nose up at the problem. It gets annoying because it is always just riiiiight there on the edge of a great system design but they just slam on the brakes.

[@igggaming9871]

I do wish they'd kept Shadow and Void as seperate things, Shadow being that which may originate from the Void but composes and harmonizes with the other elements as part of creation (The Night Elves are innately attuned to it, IE Shadowmeld, Night Warrior, etc), and Void being that which wants to consume and destroy. Maybe we can still have that, as Chronicles is just the titans view of the world.

[@Egg67538]

That is actually indeed the case. Shadow and void are separate, if not distantly related.

[@MrHuntervad]

Isn't void the source, while shadow the manifestasion of it's energy, but while you could be voidy, you don't have be to use it's energy.

[@Egg67538]

@@MrHuntervad not necessarily. Shadow magic is a separate thing from void magic, as in that it doesnt seem to be a “hungry” magic. Theres a treasure in hallowfall that opens a portal to the “shadow realm” that brings forth shadow “elementals” and they do not seem the same at all to anything related to the void. Like, rogues and DKs use shadow magic but are not plagued with void whispers or void insanity

[@MrHuntervad]

@@Egg67538 ye, that is what I said, you don't have to be void related, to use shadow magic, but shadow exists, because of voids fundemantal existence.

[@Egg67538]

@ no, Im saying shadow and void are separate. Its possible there’s some relation, but they seem to be fundamentally different. Shadow doesnt seem to hunger like the void does.

[@Sarge714]

I like the Classic Timewalking Dungeons because they have very few, if any, swirlies.

[@vaylox09]

They just have mobs that hit for 60% of your hp.

[@Zu3sUK]

This is why scaling everything doesn't work/never did, your still the most powerful at lvl one with one spell then max level with a full kit. 🤦‍♂️

[@deathinabox777]

As a tank, the random stun effects are not fun

[@Taskorilla]

WoW was amazing back in the day because it was fun. They're too focused on challenge now instead of fun. It's a game, not a job or punishment. :)

[@rebeccah2729]

I wish they would allow excess currency to be a token in your bags until you spend the other instead of losing that currency when you can't collect it.

[@brianandersen8842]

Or have it mailed to you, to free up bag space. Or even better, have a warband tab where every currency goes instead of transfering it back and forth.

[@EnhancedNightmare]

They should go like they did before they forgot how to do it: Copper, silver, gold.... and nothing for 20 years lol. Now we have million gold but why the fuck not make platinum etc, to cut off the zeroes? They same can be done with any currency. And please no more fucking trashcoins in my bag I just can't keep up! I play to escape the excel xDDD

[@Tyc2010]

Isn’t this just removing the cap ? Which I’m all for

[@TheManOnTheStreetOMG]

You're completely right about the Delves needing to go higher or at least some sort of 'fun' solo content. I don't raid like I used to and I don't have a steady M+ team. A lot of people just don't have a lot of time to throw at LFG

[@txdmsk]

Yasss, more welfare epics. What if you could just get ilvl 700 with herbalism? You pick a flower and BAMM a full set of ilvl700 items!!!

[@TaliesinMyrddin]

@@txdmsk Delves are still work, mate. No one's asking for welfare epics, they're asking for a full progression path if they want to keep working past the current cap.

[@evage99]

I remember trying Wildstar, and being very happy that I could see exactly where the mobs' attacks were landing. I doubt it's difficult to create in WoW.

[@txdmsk]

It was called "telegraphing" and we've been requesting that for ages for WoW, then once WS introduced it as a major feature, WoW devs shat their pants and copied it.

[@mC-nf2eo]

heres my issue, with the valor stones, they should either increase the limit you can have or make it so that it can be transferred between toons.

[@kinbailey310]

I love delves. I hope they dont ruin the gearing. Im never going to do mythics so if they mess with delves too much it just leaves me nothing to do.

[@adamjo5287]

Delves should give the same rewards as mythic+. The only diff should be delves are for solos and mythic for teamwork. I hope they wont lower the rewards from delves because if they do that wiuld pretty much kill delves.

[@clintmcbride7830]

I enjoy doing delves with friends. I don't want to see them even think of making it solo only content. I won't touch M+, regardless of the gear attached.

[@Thromash]

The Archons are also referenced in the Priest Talents in game.

[@Dr0Damyen]

Thank you very much for making the point about Delves in your video. I think Blizzard is missing the point and views your video to get the point. There are people who don’t want to do M+, but feel forced to do to keep progressing their character. Especially once you reach ilvl 603-610. But to be honest I think they were shocked about how many people left M+ to do Delves and weren’t planning on coming back. They want to force people back.

[@Hekk.]

Most of the people who were playing M+ still play them, especially people who were doing higher keys. Delves are ultra casual and are best played solo.. so yeah.

[@John-df3lm]

⁠​⁠@@Hekk. I’ve seen quite a bit of evidence to the contrary. Lots of people are glad the reign of the wicked M+ dungeons is over or at least battered. So many people have had to not engage in the toxic loop because delve gear is good enough. @Dr0Daymen may be on to something. It probably looks bad in a meeting when your small group content takes a nose dive in uptake.

[@Dr0Damyen]

@@Hekk. What point are you trying to make?

[@Hekk.]

@@Dr0Damyen You assumed that there are many people who stopped doing M+ and prefer delves, I know hundreds of people across many guilds and none of them stopped doing M+ because of Delves. People like to progress their characters, you can't progress above ilv619 if you just do delves.

[@dawnstar5294]

350 Valorstones (that I never have enough of) for Veteran gear (that nobody needs) isn't a solution at all - nobody in their right mind will ever use this. Just make Valorstones a Warband currency, it's wild to me that both Honor and Conquest are Warband transferable but Valorstones and Crests aren't.

[@txdmsk]

If you are not always on the valorstone cap that means you are mentally handicapped and should not be allowed to vote or drive.

[@thepalelady3518]

This is my whole issue with delves and M+. My husband and I love delve and enjoying them at our own pace. But forcing us to deal with the toxic bs trying to start out at M+6 due to our IL sucks.

[@John-df3lm]

Absolutely. If they aren’t going to push delve rewards higher they need to put gilded crests in lower M+ so everyone fleeing from M+ can hang out in the non toxic levels.

[@txdmsk]

@@John-df3lm Yes. And they need to hand out ilvl700 gear once you ding 80 and ilvl799 if you pick a flower. And I mean, not a War Within flower, you FASCISTS! But any flower. Personally I prefer Peacebloom. I like to think of this game as World of Peacebloom.

[@Morbidhouse]

I just wish they would slow the game down a bit, I feel like I need an Adderall prescription to play the game effectively.

[@88najsf-rs2rm]

Udo

[@txdmsk]

The game is as slow or fast as you want it to be. If the mythic+ timer offends you, you are low aykyuu garbage.

[@EmoDragracer]

@@txdmskoh it’s you again. Seriously dude; take a vacation.

[@madrox1989]

You need to be a pianist/RTS professional to play modern WoW at intended/desired skill/reflex caps, it's so awful. Vanilla/Classic Era is the best formula they've made because it was EverQuest but better. Imperfect class balance aside (a staple of all classic RPGs), it was a great RPG that you could play with several others from all ages/experiences.

[@lululee1653]

I remember an addon that we used that showed you where to stand and where not to stand. It didn’t last long because blizz banned it

[@clintmcbride7830]

Lasted for one expansion (WoD) and then they removed it, and Madea point to not design Raid fights to need it..... But only raid fights

[@lovin_nature_adventures9050]

Yeah they said it was cheating lol

[@timothypoburs9269]

I love the delve system and vault system. But you definitely hit a wall after T8 and you end up just trying to get a good vault at weeks end. I refuse to do raids or M+, just not why I play the game. Blizzard needs to better address solo players.

[@dandydashwood1787]

Can they just stop buffing and nerfing classes by 25%+ every patch. Just buff the lower performers and make some small tweaks and small % changes.

[@clintmcbride7830]

Only buffing leads to power creep, or is much more likely to

[@kinbailey310]

They dont tap things with a jewelers hammer. They use a sledgehammer every time.

[@ianwestc]

​@@clintmcbride7830 power creep is built into the game. It is the natural state of it

[@clintmcbride7830]

@ianwestc umm... Yeah. That's why they need to keep it in check where they can. People just don't like hearing the word "nerf". Makes them think their fun is being targeted. I get that. But acting like the only way to balance a game is by buffing is just misinformed or preferential there is NO tangible benefit for the refusal to use nerfs when it comes to maintaining, or improving, game balance. My main just got nerfed and oh well. Spec is still fun to play and gets me through the content I enjoy. I don't really care if my numbers are a little lower. But I also don't tie my enjoyment of the game to numbers.

[@txdmsk]

Most of my friends spends hundreds of bucks on character boosts, race changes, faction changes, server moves and wow tokens (to buy gear, enchants) for specs they rerolled to. I know blizzard is infinitely untalented and stupid, but I'm sure that the "balance" changes are very much planned to milk players of their money with the mentioned services.

[@Neil3D]

Omg it makes me so mad when you're in fungal folly and it's that stupid mushroom decay BS, and the swirly tripe is basically invisible under the grass... how in the name of jesus and the wee donkey did that make it to the live game and still isn't corrected. It's infuriating.

[@Shiirow]

they know why its happening, because its by design. probably hoping people will tire of complaining eventually and they wont have to buff the reward structure. then people will be fine grinding their lives away in their little feeder box. consume product, await next product. the only issue is by that point, all the people passionate with the game will have grown apathetic and left for greener pastures.

[@cainrip89]

That's a pretty stupid take.. they are losing money they know they are losing money they just don't know how to add rewards that's not a battle pass. Too much dev time to give them away for free

[@CrizzleX]

How are they losing money when selling $90 mounts? They’re definitely not losing money… just getting away with feeding us crap content. TWW was not worth the price of a full expac, yet we all still have to pay to play… 20th anni was rubbish too, think they’d make it something to remember, but no.

[@MrPopmybubble]

Honestly less mythic plus push more delve push imo and stop nurfing my shaman dammit it's hard enough to solo things where I'm spending heals on myself more than dmg. When my prot warrior walks through delves solo like it's nothing...

[@Hekk.]

Shaman is the best DPS in the game right now. Also, it's obvious tank will have easier time tanking through open world damage.

[@gblan]

Is there some special reason they can't make Delves past level 8 more difficult/challenging than they are and reward accordingly, or is that overly complicated?

[@Scuuurbs]

8:20 is the Valor chest still locked behind M+ rating? Because that was a pretty dick move that ties in nicely with what you said about funneling Delve players into M+.

[@captain_zed]

They just don't understand that Mythic+ sucks for most people, and without some kind of massive, fundamental change, that's not going to get any better.

[@txdmsk]

It would be super easy to fix M+. They are just stupid.

[@lusalma5404]

I admit, I don't want to play mythic plus... I cannot be bothered to do heroics I would rather do solo content *shrugs*

[@jony6092]

"Peari shell"? Might wanna check those glasses' prescriptions lad

[@Meeces55]

Get rid of the timers in mythic+ and everything will be instantly fixed.

[@John-df3lm]

It will take a bit for the tryhard gogo toxicity to disappear but you are absolutely correct

[@txdmsk]

And hand out free ilvl700 gear as soon as you ding 80!!! So I don't have to challenge myself, or improve, or cooperate with others, or understand dungeon or class mechanics, or put in any effort whatsoever!!! Give me your soy latte, I'll hold it for you while you speak your truth! That is if your wife's boyfriend allows you to.

[@EmoDragracer]

@@txdmskwhoooaaaa slow down there you edgy little devil you. Did you take 7 hours to craft that incredibly original insult? Calm down nerd.

[@timothypoburs9269]

​@@txdmsk dude, what's your problem?

[@starshinewindlord2716]

I don't want to ever HAVE TO do mythic plus in order to do raid. M+ is for speed demons and I am not one of those people. Even when I'm good at it and good at my class, I don't feel the fun they think they're selling in there. I'd rather gear up another way and then be able to raid. Alas, the real world struck me pretty hard near the begin of this season, and even some of the uplifting nice-people discords are by now expecting that just about anyone would be far more geared than I am now. I don't feel seen, Blizz, but thanks, I look forward to it if you actually do anything about it besides talk.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

while i dont NEED Delves to give out Mythic Gear, i wouldnt mind it. but in such case they should add more difficulties, so Mythic Gear isnt a +8 away.

[@Candlemancer]

Yeah, I wouldn't mind being able to get the best gear from delves, but it needs to have difficulty that reflects the level of reward. Getting Hero gear from every key and Myth every week from doing current level 8 delves would just invalidate every other kind of content by making gearing completely trivial

[@txdmsk]

@@Candlemancer What's the problem with that? Delves already invalidate Follower Dungeons, Timewalking, Normal Dungeons, World Quests, the Machine quest, Heroic Dungeons, Normal Raids, Raid finder, Mythic Dungeons, Mythic +2-+7, partly M+8 and above, partly Heroic Raids. There is literally only the Mythic Raid that it does not invalidate. So why not just rename the game World of Delves, and make Brann our loading screen and remove all other content from the game?

[@EmoDragracer]

@@txdmskI think you need to take a break from wow bud.

[@diggyspiff]

The problem is not only forcing players into the mythic +after delves but it being squished down to basically 10 levels from 20 when there was much more of a smooth ramp up and players could fill for comfortable going into it at mid levels and ramping up from there. The 20-10 squish was just a horrible idea, when thinking about catering to the bigger player base.

[@uhhwhat9852]

I don't raid or do m+ on retail, I have had a hard time getting enough Valor stones to upgrade my gear lol

[@esnevip]

Super excited about the telegraph change, hopefully the playerbase will actually be able to trust the visuals and information provided to do the mechanics. A solid outline on swirlies and hitboxes that match them would be a dream.

[@Xerus35]

Separate raid, m+, and delve gear. It would solve every problem with the stupid gearing system.

[@txdmsk]

Exactly. It would be so easy to implement and it would make everyone happy. Hell, I would probably do all of them for the extra sense of progression.

[@VesiustheBoneCruncher]

I have enjoyed delves this season. I am not biting on M+. They can put whatever rewards they like in the system - I’m just not interested in this mode of play. Blizzard can’t incentivise me to play this mode, I am entirely happy to stop at the end of tier 8 delves.

[@Velshin1986]

Tbh Traveler vendor monthly rewards hint about Azshara return the moment we got that giant fish mount

[@jampk24]

I spent a lot of time teaching undergraduate labs and I can empathize with Ion's statement on reward balancing. I generally erred on the side of grading tough because I could always curve grades up at the end. I wouldn't want to be too generous and then have to curve scores down at the end.

[@TheRealDigitalDecaf]

"Start to" 20 years is a slow burning start. Also, I was blown away when I heard them say delves give good rewards

[@WolfoxLive]

Make Holy Priest Great Again! (For M+ at least)

[@txdmsk]

Yeah. When I heal high mythics or rated PvP with my holy priest I sht bricks and use every cd and skill of mine to the maximum efficiency. When I heal with my shammy I don't even look at the screen and watch some youtube video instead. Absolutely incomparable.

[@WolfoxLive]

@@txdmsk yeah and imagine trying to do some dps on top of that... I gave up healing on my priest as holy it literally gives me PTSD. I don't like disc either so I'm leveling my other alts at the moment.

[@benoitrousseau4137]

I always assumed the blurry edge of "swirlies" was on purpose, because WoW's netcode is not completely deterministic. If the edges of the damage zones were clear lines (like in XIV), then it could lead to BS situations where you were out of it but still get hit, especially with bad ping.

[@txdmsk]

Yeah, but you already have those situations sometimes, especially with some spells in Dawnbreaker and CoT.

[@deathbreach3448]

I was asking ChatGPT about the latest lore of WoW… Turns out that because The Helm of Domination was destroyed… We could get another expansion for a NEW Lich King!!

[@Will-db5el]

As an on off player since beta one of the things that brought me back is the delv feature, hope they keep working on it.

[@piediddly]

I would absolutely love it if they increased the level of the rewards from delves, as I am loving delves! Though, I would probably still hit up M+ on my main, as I also enjoy those, but if they want to up the delve gear, I'm all for it.

[@Archimo]

They need to keep delves scaling and offer max ilvl gear in vault literally use same model as M+ if it's supposed to be an end game pillar they should really make it it's own thing this would also give HC raiders access to more options then just being forced into M+ as the endgame because the barriers to enter mythic raiding is beyond absurd for a video game.

[@turbotwo1]

Quick note about the chest you can buy with valor stones, you need a mythic rating of 1000. As someone who doesnt do mythic content, this is useless to me. I hope they change that.

[@Junebug89]

When plunderstorm came out, I wasn't really that into the game mode (I did warm to it a bit towards the end), but the pace you earned rewards at was SO bad that after a few matches I was like "Well they are clearly going to buff the rewards for this, I'll just come back later". Of course they did buff it to a much more reasonable place later on. It's kinda crazy that even before there was this big pattern of them starting out low and then buffing things, it was so bad that it was immediately obvious they were going to change it, like within an hour and a half or so.

[@Angvalt]

As a pvp player i need something to spend my bloody tokens on now that im fully geared. They are just stacking up by the thousand

[@zangetsuzabimaru]

Tier 8 is the highest level Delve I've tried so far and I can solo them on my fury warrior with relative ease. Although that one that it's the Nerubian capital other than Zekvir, I can't solo her. The one with all the posts and the big circles she throws. I've even tried watching videos and I can't figure out where I take so damn much damage from. It's almost a 1 shot

[@Potholet]

As a colorblind person these few years having colour based swirlies without a competent colorblind filter being part of the game has stopped me being able to raid. Reshade has some decent filters but I worry for being banned by using it.

[@FratinandMadrik]

So basically: The cosmology chart was based on the game but used as part of "training" for new designers, meaning the game ended up being based on the chart.

[@TheFlyWahine]

Mr gm showed the "itsy bitsy spider" achivement. Thats a overwatch character widowmaker. And i discoverd there's two achivements for finding and collecting lots of books. And another one thats get a stack of 100 of that "old god jiz" XD.

[@spastictuesdays340]

Ground swirlies are perilously close to the only mechanic in WoW. I don't really have a problem with that (though I'd love to see more creativity, don't ask me how) but a translucent wall projected upward from the zone of the mechanic would at least mean you would see them.

[@novaorbitdragon]

Mythic needs to have a rating system on players.

[@lunarlightasmr4660]

So you’re telling me the REAL final raid is the one on Blizzard to get that cosmology document, so we can finally know what the hell Elune is?

[@txdmsk]

Elune is our mommi.

[@deathsacomin]

Elune has been one of my top favorite mysteries in gaming history, I feel like we're going to learn a lot about her by the end of Midnight, but I'm also worried that Blizzard might fuck her character up.

[@dashvash5440]

Monk WW got tuned! Where's Havoc 😢 felt like WW was the other forgotten for awhile.

[@John-df3lm]

DH will see changes next xpac when they get their healer tree /s

[@Retadin]

Forcing people to do M+ to use Valerstones for that chest is bs. I absolutely hate M+.

[@88najsf-rs2rm]

Bs

[@88najsf-rs2rm]

G

[@ivenstorm]

Hopefully next is N'Zoth. It and Azshara being bound to a single patch was ridiculous. Maybe this time N'Zoth will be in the ruins of Shattrath, the so called "Missing Raid" from WOD. Which we can explore with the help of Garona, whose lore if you read the books is tied to Shattrath.

[@ArcadeStunfisk]

Sorry, I’m pretty sure it’s been confirmed that N’Zoth is dead

[@ivenstorm]

​@@ArcadeStunfisk Old Gods never truly die, and that's from Blizzard themselves. As far as we know the only way to get rid of them completely would be to destroy Azeroth itself, as they are tied to the planet. Short of that, there is always a way to resurrect them. When they "die" they just return to the void. All speculation of course, but it makes sense.

[@deathsacomin]

@@ivenstorm The old god's have never had less connection to the void then right now, actual speculators have been speculating for the past 3-4 years that the old gods are likely more involved with the cosmic forces of Life, chaos, death, and potentially even Azeroth herself. There's been new speculation recently about the old gods being directly connected to Argus, as his blood is very similar to the black blood.

[@OfficerCresky]

Veteran gear... The only purpose those will have is Disenchant fodder. You basically start in champ gear as soon as you hit max level, and they think lfr level stuff thats warbound is gunna be worthwhile? Do they actually play the game they work on? Or do they just pvp then listen to the fans about pve?

[@BellularGaming]

BEGONE BOTS

[@williamkirkland2222]

Boots begin

[@talscorner3696]

@@williamkirkland2222 I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE! I love it xD

[@MrDrelnar]

BEEP BOOP 🤖

[@Steve-of1kb]

Beep bop boop

[@Chaydex]

I have no idea why Blizz haven't figured out the simplest and most effective method of making rewards balanced. Like it's literally as simple as taking the generous and conservative values and then implementing the average/middle ground. The median way just works

[@TheXerosyn]

M+ needs more rewards for pushing higher than 2000/2400. Take PVP for example, the further you push PVP rating you are rewarded with weapon illusions, etc. M+ which has more of a player base get a mount at 2k and the glow on the shoulders at 2400, then there isnt a reason to push.

[@macunited999]

Die nieuwe mount. Auctioneer en brievenbus wat gelinked is aan de auctionhouse. 78 eurootjes moet je er voor aftikken. Als ik heel goed bij kas zou zitten. Tonnetje. En gewone lasten. Goede baan erbij. Dan zou ik het geen probleem vinden. Dit is toch anders. Maar dan moet je echt de keuzes die Blizzard gemaakt heeft erbij pakken. Het is een heel klein aspect ook van het spel. Nogmaals dan moet je keuzes erbij pakken.

[@marcusplaystuff636]

Idk about everyone else, but my issue with mythic+ this season has been being unable to get into anything higher than a 6. I got KSM and sit at 610+ ilvl, and no one wants me for 7+ they only want 620 ilvl with orange io, so I can't get hero gear, and I'm maxed on champion gear. Mythic+ standards are too high.

[@thefinalskarm1754]

2:30 hopefully it becomes consistent and across all versions and one day they remove flash bang frost traps.

[@omgnerv]

i'd love to get an explanation on WHY they think, being "conservative" with event rewards is a good think for the player experience / gameplay. does it bring more fun? - no. does it bring more of a challange? - no, you just have to do the same trivial stuff 100 times instead ov 10 times. I'd really love to hear how scarce (event) rewards do any good for the enjoyment of the game. I totally get why it is considered great from a business perspective. "uh let's look how little the payers uhm 'players' are willing to accept so that we don't have to deliver actual content and still keep them subscribed for months."

[@Tantaku]

i think they should do seperate tier sets for delves, m+ and raid, the same way they do for pvp

[@johnwarner4178]

“If we starts out too generous it’s not like we can nerf rewards,” uhm that happens all the time people who grind day 1-2 have a huge lead on gearing then blizzard is like oops this needs limited

[@wowdaster]

I wanna see people trying mythic ovi nax without weak auras.

[@philippecharitat467]

I absolutely love FFXIV's storytelling, the Ascians were always a constant threat pushing the story forward.

[@BlueFireDrakka]

honestly I don't mind a bit of grind so long as that grind isn't clipped by RNG, there is a reason I don't have the legion rep mounts and its not from a lack of trying. like really I hope Legion remix is a thing because Ho damn I want those mounts, specifically the storm drake. being able to toggle a bronze merchant and turning all the raid drops into bronze so you can just buy that one thing that refuses to drop, or add in some kind of Bad luck protection where the more you run a raid or dungeon the higher the drop rate becomes for low drop items or if its easier: just let us reset legacy raids so we can run them as many times as we want any time RNG is replaced with grind is perfectly fine by me.

[@CrizzleX]

Feels like the story is just winging it these days

[@88najsf-rs2rm]

Pretty much, ever since the arden death and the fact that jaina was kind of sidelined its just all over the place now

[@deathsacomin]

The story is absolutely not winging it, yea there was some rough character development in Shadowlands, but other than that, the story has been consistently moving towards conflict with the titan's since Ulduar, and the greater conflict around Azeroth itself. Sargeras has wanted to destroy her since the early days of the Warcraft story. What exactly is being winged right now? Please don't tell me its the goblins...

[@jare3959]

I remember the night before or the day Liquid killed Ansurek one of their players had an issue with their WeakAuras breaking mid pull.

[@phatec]

I absolutely hate the requirement of weakaura though.

[@andrewclear8905]

Hmm, proper game design would alleviate the need to buff rewards.

[@danecastro4029]

all i want is the follower dungeons to be more rewarding. 😊

[@wut2404]

The rewards issue is so bad I just stop playing for weeks until they fix em. I know I'm throwing time away when I do these events early.

[@HGxLegend]

They should buff vault rewards so I don't have to take tokens for the 4th week in a row after filling it with +10s every single week.

[@txdmsk]

Spread out on 13 characters I loot around 10-15 Myth vaults and around 5-15 her track vaults each week. Based on my gear level I did some back of the envelope math and I calculated that I should get an upgrade from 60-70% of my vaults. In reality I get an upgrade from around 15% of my vaults. It is clear that there is an algorithm whose job is to make your vault shit, so that you gear slower and stay around and pay longer. I'm 100% certain about that.

[@barrywertz4595]

Look at the raid, BRD now imagine a world where the reward was worth the difficulty. A mid content raid like BRD could’ve been awesome if the ranked rewards were three levels higher. I would like to see the content graph of players that actually did that raid on heroic to completion

[@lockecole3726]

I just can't stand how every expansion has to have an island of some sort added during a patch that restricts flight. I've also hated M+ since it was added, as it's just a bad version of greater rifts from D3 copy pasted into Wow.

[@FatedEmperor]

I think the number of swirlies is an issue, however, I think that the bigger issues affecting all forms of content are the imbalance when it comes to roles and their responsibilities and the sheer amount of burst damage present in all content.

[@Gen-XJohnny]

skip to 2:17 most of it is payed ad

[@ArcadeStunfisk]

Wonder if The Archon in Bastion in Shadowlands is a throwback to the Archons?

[@Bathrezz1]

BFA meta changes are undeserved. It took literal months to get the SL one done due to daily rep grinds

[@Michaelkayslay]

I hate how level 20 rep items are only say 597 items Getting level 20 rep means you're playing a fair bit Reduce the rep gate

[@TheCentralofWoW]

The chests from the vendor is ONLY for Mthic+, which is dumb