Ben 10 VS Goku Isn’t Fair

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@greymatterfanboy4256
@greymatterfanboy4256 17 күн бұрын
Alien X is just HIM🤷‍♂️ Really good video!
@ProJohnson
@ProJohnson 17 күн бұрын
Real
@notimpressedyet
@notimpressedyet 17 күн бұрын
I am subscribed to you my man.😊
@notimpressedyet
@notimpressedyet 17 күн бұрын
I love your videos too.😊
@BrandonScott-mi5pz
@BrandonScott-mi5pz 17 күн бұрын
GREAT TYLEARN DRAGON BALL VS BEN TEN ALIEN 👾 X VS GOKU
@abdeljalalrachdimali350
@abdeljalalrachdimali350 17 күн бұрын
Fodder
@narindraramdial8318
@narindraramdial8318 17 күн бұрын
People always forget the cloning power, Ben can just straight-up jump you with multiple Alien X's that are presumably the same power as him
@theamazingspooderman2697
@theamazingspooderman2697 16 күн бұрын
not presumably, definitely
@luisbriceno5242
@luisbriceno5242 16 күн бұрын
You know Alien X having clones just as powerful as him is exactly like Sun Wu-Kong having clones each one just as powerful as the original.
@Da-choppa
@Da-choppa 15 күн бұрын
@@luisbriceno5242 dear god alien X is Wukong but weird space fella
@zirotsero6951
@zirotsero6951 8 күн бұрын
I’ll be deadass. The power to multiply his own power at will….. is actually not that impressive in the grand scheme of power scailing, specifically when you reach these levels of power
@-eternty5639
@-eternty5639 2 күн бұрын
Ben actually still have aliens that can defeat Goku like ghost freak , clock work, nanomech , and the vampire guy that can suck powers and energy
@sugardady1019
@sugardady1019 17 күн бұрын
You forgot what the Najilan said. “Only 26 dimensions *that* matter”.
@Animelove12-d5d
@Animelove12-d5d 16 күн бұрын
@@sugardady1019 true
@star_sultan
@star_sultan 16 күн бұрын
Exactly,there's at least 26 dimensions not only 26
@ohhellwhereami2574
@ohhellwhereami2574 16 күн бұрын
​@@star_sultan yep
@SStormGamer
@SStormGamer 16 күн бұрын
@@sugardady1019 Cc Goku still transcends dimensionality and slams neg diff
@sugardady1019
@sugardady1019 16 күн бұрын
@ which alien x does as well? Authors many times stated he isn’t bounded to any reality, which makes him boundless. He NEGS.
@noureldeenheikal7087
@noureldeenheikal7087 Күн бұрын
I have one thing to say "Ben's scan mode"
@ATLAS.3DIT
@ATLAS.3DIT 17 күн бұрын
Goku's face when Clockwork goes back in time and kills him when he's a newborn: 😱
@wildera7456
@wildera7456 17 күн бұрын
Then another timeline would be created... oops
@yspy_1801
@yspy_1801 17 күн бұрын
That wouldn't work in with db. Going back in time doesn't affect the timeline you were in previously, it just creates a new one
@2magnet
@2magnet 17 күн бұрын
Alien x would just change how time works in bragon ball​@@yspy_1801
@ashuraomega1000
@ashuraomega1000 17 күн бұрын
The only way Clockwork could win is through de-aging Goku, other than that he gets negged honestly
@Mario-s5z3o
@Mario-s5z3o 17 күн бұрын
@@yspy_1801that literally only happened cause zamasu had a plot device that made him and goku black still exist in the timeline meaning it can still happen
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 17 күн бұрын
Goku: *Throws a full power kamehameha with MUI* Alien X: 🗿
@boiled-boiled
@boiled-boiled 17 күн бұрын
CC goku: 🗿 Xeno goku: 🗿 God fusion goku: 🗿
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 17 күн бұрын
@@boiled-boiled*Cough Non Canon* *Cough cry more* *Cough Alien X is Hyperversal to Low Outer potentially*
@junjungker8162
@junjungker8162 17 күн бұрын
@@boiled-boiled bro started throwing non canon just to win
@hybridvenom9
@hybridvenom9 17 күн бұрын
​​@@boiled-boiledlil bro have to use non canon to win
@CommentPositionInformer
@CommentPositionInformer 17 күн бұрын
​@@boiled-boiled Ultimate Alien X: 🗿
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 17 күн бұрын
Alien X was able to reset the universe with absolute ease and bear in mind, he did that with a single thought (Ben 10 universe is infinite) meaning Alien X did that with one thought only later Alien X was able to slice through a dimensional barrier which higher dimensional beings couldn't at all and all of that was done with a strand of his DNA (His strand of DNA alone is above 5th dimensional imps) The Celestial Sapiens are also comfirmed to have changed the artstyle and world around the Ben 10 universe explaining why the universe looks so different It was also stated that Ben 10 can wipe the Multiverse with 6 thoughts (The Ben verse contains infinite universes with infinite timelines) meaning that Alien X is easily Hyperversal in nature even a Baby Alien X was stated to be a threat to the Universe (Agreggor needed a baby to be universal threat) Alien X has also been stated to be the most powerful character in the verse (potentially scaling above an Alien spieces which was 26D) He also should upscale the Dagon whose heart was stated to warp all of reality Overall Alien X is High Hyperversal with infinite to immeasurable speeds
@alphawolf8503
@alphawolf8503 17 күн бұрын
My scaling for alien X the cosmology is confimed to have infinite universes by professor paradox and ben meets beings who are infinite dimensional in a canon comic which is stated to be canon by Duncan rellous in ben 10 an omniverse and multiverse aren't synonyms the omniverse is a higher structure proven by albedo saying "no not universal not even multiversal but an omniversal force" proving the omniverse has a higher structure than the multiverse and the infinite dimensions are contained in the omniverse which means the omniverse is a higher structure than the infinite dimensions which places the omniverse at the very least low outerversal but there is evidence that the verse scales higher in Paradox's debut episode we see equations that represents reality in the background we see aleph null which is the symbol that represents high outerversal which would scale the verse to high outerversal in the episode ben again eon gets a hold of Paradox's chrononavigator and with it he was threatening to destroy the cosmology in Paradox's own word "stop this now before all of existence is destroyed" this would include the omniverse which would place paradox at high outerversal at the very least but you can make a case for him scaling to boundless due to the lack of effort this same paradox says that 1/10th of a baby selestialsapien is way above him in terms of power ben as stated and shown by bullfrag, kickin hawk and four arms transforms into the prime version of every species this would mean that alien X is more powerful than every other selestialsapien and if thats not enough for you one of the creators (Duncan rellous) have outright stated that the selestialsapiens are the writers of the ben 10 cosmology and manipulate the plot alien X is also faster than professor paradox who outright states he exists outside of time alien X was also able to recreate everything in the universe almost perfectly this would mean he recrated atoms planets secrets that ben couldn't possible know off this suggests he has nigh omnisciences at the lowest Alien X should scale to outerversal - boundless (depending on where you scale paradox to and wether you want to take the aleph null seriously) with irrelevant speed and nigh omniscience (at least it's possible alien X has complete omnisciences)
@DagmawiKassahun-p4c
@DagmawiKassahun-p4c 16 күн бұрын
​@@alphawolf8503this actually make sense to me
@kaliyuga14surfer88
@kaliyuga14surfer88 16 күн бұрын
​@@alphawolf8503yes i agree, it has been concluded that the ben 10 cosmology easily and consistently reaches multiverse type 4 which scales to boundless for characters above said cosmology and high outerversal for those within.
@Kirbing0
@Kirbing0 16 күн бұрын
Writers: “then they uh trap him with some legos-“
@DagmawiKassahun-p4c
@DagmawiKassahun-p4c 16 күн бұрын
@Kirbing0 that Alien x is from a different time line,he is not the same as the other,I don't understand why people think that there is only one alien x
@FireArtVids21
@FireArtVids21 17 күн бұрын
Forgot to mention some things in the video. The Ben 10 cosmology runs on quantum mechanics and string theory. You got characters saying Celestialsapiens have the greatest power in the verse and they wish everything out of existence. They’re above Paradox who has a device that can destroy all of existence.
@boiled-boiled
@boiled-boiled 17 күн бұрын
CC goku said by officialdivine is boundless
@duekaslana246
@duekaslana246 17 күн бұрын
​@@boiled-boiled bro had to bring out non-canon goku's to make goku win 💀
@CommentPositionInformer
@CommentPositionInformer 17 күн бұрын
​@@boiled-boiled So if we say things without basis they are automatically true? In that case, Alien X solos every Boundless character at once. Source: I said it.
@detectiveplays
@detectiveplays 16 күн бұрын
​@@boiled-boiled I dont think hes boundless and officialdivivine has been wrong before like in his Batman Vs Spiderman video where he said Arkham Batman would win
@KuroTheUnstoppableYT
@KuroTheUnstoppableYT 16 күн бұрын
​@@boiled-boiledultimate AlienX slams cc goku
@SoraTempez
@SoraTempez 17 күн бұрын
I'm still not forgiving Reboot for what they did to Alien X
@DagmawiKassahun-p4c
@DagmawiKassahun-p4c 16 күн бұрын
Don't worry, that Alien x is from a different time line so that means that not the same Alien x we saw
@Da-choppa
@Da-choppa 15 күн бұрын
@@DagmawiKassahun-p4c that’s not alien X that’s xeno Z 😭
@Animelove12-d5d
@Animelove12-d5d 14 күн бұрын
@@DagmawiKassahun-p4c true That's not aline x in reeboot That extraterrestrial z
@ryzl1178
@ryzl1178 12 күн бұрын
That's a partial Celestial Sapien like AtomicX is. The reboot alien x doesn't have multiple personalities and is obv weaker and was unlocked by an omnitrix malfunction. So it's technically still accurate to the lore because partial celestial sapiens are significantly weaker
@KaptanDest
@KaptanDest 16 күн бұрын
Some paradox scaling that helpes alienx : > Paradox put maltruant ( multiversal lvl timetraveler) and 5d beings (Contumelias) in a time loop where time didnt existed . And yes contumelias are powerfull they teleported ben , rook and themselfs to maltruant with their powers . > Paradox has power to control all timelines , all alternate realities , everything . He views the ben 10 cosmos as a comic book and controls the limited 26d cosmology.
@explosivegrape
@explosivegrape 17 күн бұрын
Goku looses badly especially with how much of a haxed out character Alien X is.
@gitzart7950
@gitzart7950 5 күн бұрын
There are still a lot of other Aliens other than Alien X that can infact defeat Goku for example pixie dust, Toepick, Ghost Friek and Clockwork
@CJ-qv4sd
@CJ-qv4sd 17 күн бұрын
Ben 10 is just that guy
@FireArtVids21
@FireArtVids21 17 күн бұрын
And a lot of people still underestimate him
@abdeljalalrachdimali350
@abdeljalalrachdimali350 17 күн бұрын
Goten victim
@Mr.MakeSense
@Mr.MakeSense 17 күн бұрын
​@@abdeljalalrachdimali350 stay wrong
@Multiversedestroyer2.01
@Multiversedestroyer2.01 17 күн бұрын
​@@abdeljalalrachdimali350Saiyans are space vaccum victim
@abdeljalalrachdimali350
@abdeljalalrachdimali350 17 күн бұрын
​@@Mr.MakeSenselets debate that or ducking
@rossruss6901
@rossruss6901 17 күн бұрын
Ben is about to answer the question "But can he beat Goku" with a hard yes.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 17 күн бұрын
*Proceeds to get his shit rocked by ssj Goku from the Buu saga*
@Tylearned
@Tylearned 17 күн бұрын
Crashtime explain to the class why this is the case
@rossruss6901
@rossruss6901 17 күн бұрын
@@Tylearned simply Alien X is broken when you get right down to it. Just by thinking he can recreate a universe and he is a part of a species that passively changes the show's artstyle. He's also above some of Ben's stronger aliens like Clockwork which can undo multiverse, ending time bombs.
@CommentPositionInformer
@CommentPositionInformer 17 күн бұрын
​@@crashtime3429 Military grade copium.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 17 күн бұрын
Otherworld, a place lacking the concepts of space and time and transcends it in the DB verse. Goku was able to move in that place casually while he was alive. And the entire macrocosm (infinite universe) contains this place. There are multiple realms that scale above the living world, as stated by zamasu "I look down on mortals from a higher plane of existence" clearly referring to a difference in dimensions and transcendence. Hell and Heaven are both infinite in size and are stated to be the size of the universe in DB. This automatically gets Goku in the Buu saga bare minimum to low multi, as he was able to fight kid Buu who had power stated to be able to destroy this realm with ease including the entire macrocosm. By kid Buu destroying these places he automatically gets to 4 Layers into Outer, given that there are 4 different dimensions in the macrocosm that transcend each other. The Living realm, Hell, the land of the kais, and the otherworld/afterlife. A common mistake is that people think that heaven and hell are connected therefore this only scales to a universal feat, but they are blatantly stated to by separate, even out of context/guidebooks watching the anime will show you that they travel from one to another with them being separated from the "good souls" that go to heaven instead of Hell. Goku scales MASSIVELY above this in the BoG saga where he is defeated by Beerus (majorly heavily supressed) in super Saiyan three going all out. Goku then states that even fusion wouldn't be enough to defeat that suppressed beerus, which would hypothetically be a Super Saiyan Three Vegito/Gogeta That alone tells you how big the jump in power ssj3 and God goes to. As the kid Buu we saw back in Z would get completely washed by Super Vegito alone. Ssj2 and Ssj3 would be overkill. Goku boxes Beerus, absorbs the God ki into base, then goes super Saiyan after gaining the inner god ki (not super Saiyan blue). This puts Goku bare minimum 5-6 Layers into outer. That's all he needs to wipe the floor with Alien X and Jin Mori at the same time blindfolded deaf and with no limbs. Also "Omnipotence" does not scale anywhere, as if we were to go off of this logic Buuhan is omnipotent as he himself said he was along with guidebooks featuring the quote in the anime. And we clearly know both alien X and buuhan are NOT "omnipotent". They were in their verse at the specific time, as Omnipotence is just a state of being above anything else. Ben just looks omnipotent and unbeatable because he is so massively stronger than 99% of his verse. But realistically, SSJ Goku from the Buu saga is rocking his shit and making him go home to think about his decisions.
@adityagarasiya388
@adityagarasiya388 10 күн бұрын
Goku is a alien too... What if ben just yoinks his dna and transforms in a peak saiyaan
@Light-qs1qk
@Light-qs1qk 9 күн бұрын
He will become a Saiyan with 60k power and he won't have ki control
@Hakuta925
@Hakuta925 6 күн бұрын
A peak saiyan that can't become god isn't gonna do a damn thing against goku god forms.
@SneakyFoot
@SneakyFoot 2 күн бұрын
Goku cant breath in space. All ben needs to do is remove O2. Also ben can become goku except at his peak.
@Nullus_0
@Nullus_0 17 күн бұрын
Where does bro get his goated thumbnails from😭
@jtdevera1189
@jtdevera1189 17 күн бұрын
Not even considering that ben can become a peak saiyan if he scans goku. And knowing goku he'd be open to probe scanning if it meant fighting somone relative.
@rodrigorodriguez4328
@rodrigorodriguez4328 16 күн бұрын
he would have to becareful going beyond base, as his body has nowhere as close of training compared to goku, he may just implode alot more violently or instantly than moro.
@jackmanleblanc2518
@jackmanleblanc2518 16 күн бұрын
​@@rodrigorodriguez4328 That's... not how the Omnitrix works. Ben becomes the peak of whatever alien race it scans. He would be given a body capable of handling those transformations.
@ClashMasterStudios
@ClashMasterStudios 16 күн бұрын
@@rodrigorodriguez4328 you donn't know how the Omnitrix work do you
@phamduy1906
@phamduy1906 15 күн бұрын
​@@rodrigorodriguez4328 Omnitrix grant him all the skill to fully utilities the alien's power when transformed. You think Ben know how universe work down to subatomic level before he transform into Alien X? 😂
@thescratchanimator570
@thescratchanimator570 13 күн бұрын
Peak Saiyan By the way, Ya do realize how Weak the saiyans were right? Like if we're going by Peak terms the biggest power level you could give Ben if he transformed into a peak saiyan would be 10,000-18,000 seeing as that's how strong the strongest saiyans were during that time, which is FODDER compared to dbz characters over 100,000 if we want to use the Dbs Manga Feats
@finbarrsworld
@finbarrsworld 17 күн бұрын
Be careful of kakarotscales and drip sauce when they see this video
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 17 күн бұрын
DB down player spotted.
@Tylearned
@Tylearned 17 күн бұрын
Dont know who the first guy is but drop sauce is the same guy who got bullied by my comments on dc cosmology 😭
@alphawolf8503
@alphawolf8503 17 күн бұрын
​@@crashtime3429db high baller spotted
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 17 күн бұрын
Goku has feats above anything alien X has done, no?
@CommentPositionInformer
@CommentPositionInformer 17 күн бұрын
​@@crashtime3429 No.
@Justice-j1b
@Justice-j1b 17 күн бұрын
Alien x would destroy in my opinion he has hyper scaling and Goku isn’t consistently up there nice vid
@Foggy18
@Foggy18 17 күн бұрын
Genuinely curious why does a character being 5 d or 6d matter like I’m confused what does that have to do with their strength or durability or speed sorry for a odd question
@Animelove12-d5d
@Animelove12-d5d 17 күн бұрын
​@@Foggy18that's the most important thing lol A lower dimensional being can't see or interact with a higher dimensional being For example a 3d being can't see a 4d being and so on Now 4d = beyond the concept of time across Infinite timelines 5d = beyond concept of time and space across Infinite timelines 6d = beyond concept of time,space , reality across Infinite timelines So on So doesn't matter how strong a 3d character is , weakest 4d character one shots him because of higher dimensionality Like A 4d being can see a 3d being like a piece of drawing Like we humans see a piece of paper which is 2d
@kaliyuga14surfer88
@kaliyuga14surfer88 16 күн бұрын
​@@Foggy18dimensional space scaling. basically a 3D character is infinitely greater than a 2D one, this trend continues with a character who can destroy or largely affect an infinite 3D space scaling to 4D. so on and so forth. this all depends on the cosmology (basically the complexity of the universes and how many are there) of the show and said cosmology hard caps characters from being any stronger.
@kirakyuti5946
@kirakyuti5946 16 күн бұрын
@@Foggy18 To give a simple explaination A 4D character is infinitly stronger than a 3D character. And a 5D Character is infinitely stronger than a 4D character. So answer me on this What would happen to a 5D character trying to fight a 26D character that is 21 infinities stronger?
@Foggy18
@Foggy18 16 күн бұрын
@@Animelove12-d5d gotcha in my mind I was always confused how it matters but now I know thank you 🙏
@lethalegengo6525
@lethalegengo6525 17 күн бұрын
Hyperversal level entity with arguments of outer vs goku 😭😭😭i love goku so much but x just too much of a problem
@boiled-boiled
@boiled-boiled 17 күн бұрын
CC goku speed blitz and erases alien x
@ashuraomega1000
@ashuraomega1000 17 күн бұрын
Goku also has arguments for outer but I agree
@lethalegengo6525
@lethalegengo6525 17 күн бұрын
​@@boiled-boilednobody is talking about cc goku😭😭
@Multiversedestroyer2.01
@Multiversedestroyer2.01 17 күн бұрын
​@@boiled-boilednon canon dogshit
@royorange9691
@royorange9691 17 күн бұрын
​@@boiled-boiledstop bringing non cannon stuffs here
@SiNKarnage
@SiNKarnage 17 күн бұрын
Its impossible for Goku to even break Alien X to begin with. Alien X "BODY" is really just an Avatar whereas Bens consciousness exist somewhere entirely outward. Even if Goku were to somehow break Alien X, Ben can just make an Infinite amount of Bodys to face him.
@DrFateBR
@DrFateBR 16 күн бұрын
That's not how it works. They're just above cosmology.
@Vellichoria
@Vellichoria 14 күн бұрын
​@@DrFateBRwanna debate?
@Nominod
@Nominod 17 күн бұрын
Theres already Goku glazers in the community poll you made. They just refuse to accept the facts.
@Jordane-vz8kx
@Jordane-vz8kx 5 күн бұрын
Yall are forgeting goku is a alien last time a check the watch scans the alien and turns ben into the strongest form of that alien for example in Omniverse ben 10 scan the chicken guy (i found hes name) he became a stronger form of that alien so all he needs to do is just scan goku and there he is cooked.. so yea even without alien x he still cooks goku. Bet he would call the alien "invincible" because that free alien X without the two yappers so yea he STILL wins. Nvm he would call the scan goku "alien G"
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 17 күн бұрын
Alien X actually outclasses Zeno, plus Alien X isn’t even Ben’s strongest form. He’s just the strongest KNOWN form!! Ben still has transformations that are even stronger than Alien X!
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 17 күн бұрын
Zeno would blink all of Ben 10 cosmology away. wtf are you Ben 10 glazers on today.
@RedDragonForce2
@RedDragonForce2 17 күн бұрын
@@crashtime3429you do realize that Zeno has to actually put effort into destroying a universe, where as Ben only needs a thought to do so.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 17 күн бұрын
Where did you get the word "effort" from. Zeno scales above all of SDBH. That alone makes him inf layers into High Outer to boundless.
@Multiversedestroyer2.01
@Multiversedestroyer2.01 17 күн бұрын
Sbdh isn't even a canon shit Moreover Zeno fodder was struggling to see mortals fight in tournament of power 😂😂 because of high speed (ep 110-111) Also zeno can erase Universe , but alien x survived Universe erasure without a scratch Zeno isn't a fighter and gets washed
@Shoddragon
@Shoddragon 17 күн бұрын
@@crashtime3429 Zeno's most impressive feat is erasing all the universes in Trunks' timeline which scales below a lot of the mentioned things for Ben 10. Dragon Ball Heroes is basically officially licensed fan fiction so who cares?
@Jaytwos
@Jaytwos 17 күн бұрын
That thumbnail is so cool🔥
@Shoddragon
@Shoddragon 17 күн бұрын
2:15 something interesting to note with all the "Heaven and Kaioshinkai are higher dimensions" talk is that Goku is able to teleport to/from Earth to Kaioshinkai, Kaioo's World and even beerus' planet but in chapter 82 of the DBS manga, the distance between Planet Cereal and Whis is too great a distance to traverse with a single teleport (Goku had to basically teleport hop his way several times to reach the distance). This means that not only is there a physical, measurable distance between Earth and these apparent "higher dimensions" but the distance from Earth to Kaioshinkai, Earth to Kaioo's world, etc is actually LESS than the distance between Planet Cereal and the random Planet Whis was on. This doesn't necessarily discredit the overall validity of Beerus and Goku threatening the Macrocosm but at the very least it calls into question how reliable some of these databook entries are when it comes to things being infinite or "higher dimensions".
@shirothr5384
@shirothr5384 17 күн бұрын
The same argument can be said as to why Alien X struggles with stopping a bomb that has comparable power to the Big Bang. Which at best would play him in the Universal spectrum of power. Both stories have inconsistencies when it comes to it's power scaling and systems given that they're both long-running series.
@just_a_tepig3611
@just_a_tepig3611 17 күн бұрын
​@@shirothr5384alien x wasnt incapable of withstanding the big bang there His and the other aliens were just used to boost feedback who ben initially transformed into
@just_a_tepig3611
@just_a_tepig3611 17 күн бұрын
The macrocosm is a sphere it seems Theoretically the farthest ends of the main universe are as father as the farthest ends of the farthest "dimensions" physically. Physically all connected but the different dimensions like the main universe and other world are assumedly bound apart by magic restrictions. Goju constantly teleports in and out of otherworld to meet kai, but can't when he's dead. There's restrictions in place, but all technically physically connected. As for distance, different levels of infinite I suppose. IT isnt truly boundless even if it can travel by human measures an infinite distance.
@ashuraomega1000
@ashuraomega1000 17 күн бұрын
This is stupid. It's basically like downplaying Goku to bullet level because he can be hurt by guns while off guard. The distance stuff with Planet Cereal is really just for plot purposes and nothing else. You'll get nowhere from discrediting statements by arguing semantics
@kakuzugoated873
@kakuzugoated873 17 күн бұрын
​@@shirothr5384Atomic X and it wasn't a big bang level bomb. It was a bomb that was going to destroy the entire cosmology. It's called the big bang based on the cosmology it's like 6d. Especially considering chromastone using a fraction of alien x cut a 5d barrier.
@nowlwane9623
@nowlwane9623 17 күн бұрын
Alien X is a reality bender
@AjayiDaniel-xu9tj
@AjayiDaniel-xu9tj 16 күн бұрын
Goku victim
@Vellichoria
@Vellichoria 14 күн бұрын
Wanna debate?
@Fighter_Z_9000
@Fighter_Z_9000 13 күн бұрын
And?
@Mecha_eggzilla
@Mecha_eggzilla 12 күн бұрын
​@@Fighter_Z_9000and goku is a monkey who died multiple times got defeated in his strongest form mui against a guy who just turned on black mode
@DrWardy
@DrWardy 16 күн бұрын
now this is a video i can get behind
@Tylearned
@Tylearned 16 күн бұрын
Love your vids man thank you
@alphawolf8503
@alphawolf8503 17 күн бұрын
My scaling for alien X: the cosmology is confimed to have infinite universes by professor paradox and ben meets beings who are infinite dimensional in a canon comic which is stated to be canon by Duncan rellous in ben 10 an omniverse and multiverse aren't synonyms the omniverse is a higher structure proven by albedo saying "no not universal not even multiversal but an omniversal force" proving the omniverse has a higher structure than the multiverse and the infinite dimensions are contained in the omniverse which means the omniverse is a higher structure than the infinite dimensions which places the omniverse at the very least low outerversal but there is evidence that the verse scales higher in Paradox's debut episode we see equations that represents reality in the background we see aleph null which is the symbol that represents high outerversal which would scale the verse to high outerversal in the episode ben again eon gets a hold of Paradox's chrononavigator and with it he was threatening to destroy the cosmology in Paradox's own word "stop this now before all of existence is destroyed" this would include the omniverse which would place paradox at high outerversal at the very least but you can make a case for him scaling to boundless due to the lack of effort this same paradox says that 1/10th of a baby selestialsapien is way above him in terms of power ben as stated and shown by bullfrag, kickin hawk and four arms transforms into the prime version of every species this would mean that alien X is more powerful than every other selestialsapien and if thats not enough for you one of the creators (Duncan rellous) have outright stated that the selestialsapiens are the writers of the ben 10 cosmology and manipulate the plot alien X is also faster than professor paradox who outright states he exists outside of time alien X was also able to recreate everything in the universe almost perfectly this would mean he recrated atoms planets secrets that ben couldn't possible know off this suggests he has nigh omnisciences at the lowest Alien X should scale to outerversal - boundless (depending on where you scale paradox to and wether you want to take the aleph null seriously) with irrelevant speed and nigh omniscience (at least it's possible alien X has complete omnisciences) Even capsule corp goku doesn’t stand a chance against alien X let alone super goku sorry dragonball fanboys but its the truth don't take it personally I've edited this bit below because I forgot to mention it before but you can argue that the forge of creation also scales to outerversal considering that it exists outside the concepts of space and time and arguably dimensions considering that the selestialsapiens are above dimensions and the forge of creation is above dimension 12 which is stated to be pan dimensional by rook
@abdeljalalrachdimali350
@abdeljalalrachdimali350 17 күн бұрын
Ma son you cant scale goku so dont even talk 😂
@abdeljalalrachdimali350
@abdeljalalrachdimali350 17 күн бұрын
I have debunks on alien x drop your cord
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 17 күн бұрын
HOLY WANK.
@Multiversedestroyer2.01
@Multiversedestroyer2.01 17 күн бұрын
No need to say bro We have Legit seen the cosmic mom appear in alien force and said there are 26 considerable dimensions Ben 10 Universe is 26 dimensional Goku fucking caps at 4d
@alphawolf8503
@alphawolf8503 17 күн бұрын
@Multiversedestroyer2.01 you could argue goku scales to 5 - 6D but yeah I agree
@KaptanDest
@KaptanDest 16 күн бұрын
This is such a great video man i was afraid if you were gonna pass by the feats like every other person does but you does understand the details in those scenes . U said universes everytime the anailarh scenes showed up thats such a important and small thing %99.999 people miss .
@euro.steppp
@euro.steppp 17 күн бұрын
Clockwork shits on Goku, not just Alien X.
@Nub_Fish
@Nub_Fish 17 күн бұрын
No, clockwork doesn't have the durability or power to match Goku. A hit from Goku would clean Clockwork out, unlike Alien X where Goku could try everything and Alien X would not even flinch. Only thing we've seen Clockwork do was reverse a multiverseral time bomb, and that was more of a hack than pure power strength.
@TheManWhoIsClean-ki99
@TheManWhoIsClean-ki99 17 күн бұрын
Yeah, I disagree with this take too. Clockwork would get his clock cleaned by Goku.
@euro.steppp
@euro.steppp 17 күн бұрын
@@TheManWhoIsClean-ki99 Time manipulation + Aging beam = Instant win. Plus he scales above Maltruant who could box Atomic X (a fusion of Alien X and Atomix). Not even close.
@blumusprime2900
@blumusprime2900 17 күн бұрын
Fax
@blumusprime2900
@blumusprime2900 17 күн бұрын
@@Nub_Fishrespect your opinion, but even tho strength and durability aren’t on clockwork side, he can still win via Hax, not to mention he has reaction speed that scales to other aliens Ben has, so he would most probably win due to Hax, now that I think about it, a few aliens could beat goku via Hax, like ghostfreak being intangible and destroying goku’s soul, but idk I’m just fanboying at this point
@baconlord2545
@baconlord2545 17 күн бұрын
Ngl Clockwork could just age Goku to dust. If goku tries to retaliate with a ki attack that shit is also getting aged out of existence.
@Plasma_trinity
@Plasma_trinity 16 күн бұрын
So Goku is just gonna stand there for the time beam to hit him.
@badroboudjerda4394
@badroboudjerda4394 16 күн бұрын
​@Plasma_trinity from this I know yo ass didn't watch omnivers Clockwork can LITERALLY USE ZAWARDO(it's more like slowing down time
@JuliusAmobi
@JuliusAmobi 16 күн бұрын
​@@badroboudjerda4394yeah so Goku has fought hit who can freeze time.
@potatomars2443
@potatomars2443 15 күн бұрын
clockwork is too slow, getting speed blitzed by goku. as a ben ten fan, pretty much ben only stands a chance with alien x (and maybe ascalon?)
@Fighter_Z_9000
@Fighter_Z_9000 13 күн бұрын
Scale Clockwork
@andreassmith5795
@andreassmith5795 17 күн бұрын
I hate to agree but Goku got nothing if X is in the 26D
@Foggy18
@Foggy18 17 күн бұрын
Haven’t watched the video yet but already know then comment section is about to a war lol
@joelsilva4176
@joelsilva4176 14 күн бұрын
Literaly everytime he will say a Goku feat "i don't think so" happens, this is the biggest evidence of baiased video
@B3YONDRAGONZ
@B3YONDRAGONZ 15 күн бұрын
Quick note, goku shaking the endless void would be shaking an infinite sized space (universes are stated to be infinite but they are finite) in which case would make him low complex multiversal and low 6d, and since he has obviously grown much stronger we can assume he would be around baseline 6d and with wishful thinking and a little bit of fairy dust, he is high 6d
@SoulGizmo
@SoulGizmo 14 күн бұрын
Hal jordan comes to gokus rescue
@youngdizzy463
@youngdizzy463 12 күн бұрын
Are we forgetting that if Goku touches his watch it automatically collect samples of his dna and he gets his strongest form
@yanim8s350
@yanim8s350 6 күн бұрын
He doesn't get them because they aren't native saiyan forms lmfao😅 only the first 3 the other 2 take external sources that aren't native to saiyans so he wouldn't by default have those
@KaptanDest
@KaptanDest 16 күн бұрын
6:43 IT IS PROVEN! Paradox once said that The Forge of the creation has the greatest power in the universe but you may say isnt forge of the creation outside of the universe ? Yes thats why when paradox says the greatest power in the universe he talks abaout all the cosmos like saying marvel universe or dc universe . And we know from the ben again episode that paradox wont ever lie . When eon asked him a question he didnt questions paradox's answer , even for a second and says paradox isnt a liar .
@AdeizaGabe
@AdeizaGabe 17 күн бұрын
Rip Most of your favorite anime’s 💀🙏
@master-d2776
@master-d2776 17 күн бұрын
Nah man Some novel/anime/manga are above alien X And yes goku is at the best multiversal
@Jackson-l1f
@Jackson-l1f 17 күн бұрын
Base Goku is outerversal
@Fighter_Z_9000
@Fighter_Z_9000 17 күн бұрын
Rip Ben 10💀🙏
@master-d2776
@master-d2776 17 күн бұрын
@@Jackson-l1f nah goku full power is universal+ (Zeno is multiversal at the best)
@Multiversedestroyer2.01
@Multiversedestroyer2.01 17 күн бұрын
​@@master-d2776if base Goku is low multiversal??? How will you scale mui Goku lol Also how is zeno high multiversal ??? High multiversal beings can destroy hundreds of Universes at once lol Moreover zeno was struggling to see mortals fight in tournament of power
@CarlosGarcia91000
@CarlosGarcia91000 17 күн бұрын
Bro, you highball Goku like crazy
@eggdog6185
@eggdog6185 17 күн бұрын
You highball alien x too much
@sparkls4492
@sparkls4492 17 күн бұрын
Probably just to prove that even at his peak he can't beat alien X
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 17 күн бұрын
how is this highballing? this is lowballing Goku like shit.
@DaBossMn
@DaBossMn 17 күн бұрын
Bro low multi/multiversal metas for Goku is just dead and obsolete. 5D by now is the consistent baseline/cap for dragon ball super
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls
@LeaderOfTheLostSouls 17 күн бұрын
⁠@@DaBossMnNo low multi is far more consistent, 5D is a valid high end that’s it. Any higher is wank.
@lemuelvazquezflores9774
@lemuelvazquezflores9774 16 күн бұрын
Lets not forget celestial sapiens come from the Forge, which is outside de omniverse
@Joshu-y1k
@Joshu-y1k 12 күн бұрын
Ben 10 Solos your favorite verse.
@JacklynRockwell
@JacklynRockwell 12 күн бұрын
Goku takes L's just as much has gets W's. Meanwhile, Garfield hasn't take damaged at all.
@liamdealmeida9914
@liamdealmeida9914 16 күн бұрын
Alien X absolutely erases Dragon Ball. Too bad he's still a Green Lantern victim.
@Light-qs1qk
@Light-qs1qk 16 күн бұрын
No he can't
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 16 күн бұрын
What is this green lantern shit im seeing all in the comments. I don't scale green lantern but all I know is that Goku slams both alien X and green lantern.
@ijionclifton9148
@ijionclifton9148 15 күн бұрын
​@@crashtime3429green lantern yes alien x no
@simeon8814
@simeon8814 17 күн бұрын
Actually, Goku doesn't scale to the shockwaves because he Is applying the opposite of the inverse square law which says that shockwaves get weaker from their origin point, Goku and Beerus do the exact opposite explicitly and were even sent flying by them, also Elder Kai did Say that It would have erased the macrocosm but It tanked a way more RAW 3rd Clash than the First 2 shockwaves and Goku didn't even scale to the SDEB which Beerus nullified, you'd have to assume that Beerus Used the Same Power that nullified that ball when he attacked Goku, which, there's no way to prove
@geraldoedoby6868
@geraldoedoby6868 17 күн бұрын
That doesn't make sense at all.
@simeon8814
@simeon8814 17 күн бұрын
@geraldoedoby6868 it's literally what happens in the anime
@deaddead2783
@deaddead2783 17 күн бұрын
​@@simeon8814L take since buuhan was stated to be able to destroy the universe so ur whole paragraph doesn't debunk shit
@simeon8814
@simeon8814 16 күн бұрын
@deaddead2783 First off:I didn't Say Goku isn't Universal, I Simply said he doesn't scale to the shockwaves, 2:Ye Buuhan was that strong, how does that address my point?
@deaddead2783
@deaddead2783 16 күн бұрын
@simeon8814 u saying he doesn't scale to the shokwaves is stupid since buu saga characters do so ur just wrong
@ishan61
@ishan61 17 күн бұрын
Alien X destroys Dragon Ball verse.
@Iron_potato40k
@Iron_potato40k 17 күн бұрын
Wrong. goku solos alien x's entore species.
@Krypton2113
@Krypton2113 17 күн бұрын
Xeno Goku >
@ashlol1839
@ashlol1839 17 күн бұрын
Man created the universe lol​@@Iron_potato40k
@xigabrelless1980
@xigabrelless1980 17 күн бұрын
Arale victim
@ishan61
@ishan61 17 күн бұрын
@Krypton2113 Alien X is Omnipotent, so it doesn't Matter
@spinoirrex2433
@spinoirrex2433 17 күн бұрын
**Speed equalized ** Ben has a lot of aliens that have haxs that can beat Goku
@swampfire9382
@swampfire9382 17 күн бұрын
There’s literally only 2 and that’s Alien x and Clockwork lmao
@spinoirrex2433
@spinoirrex2433 17 күн бұрын
@swampfire9382 big chill has absolute zero Goku has no resistance to that
@rodrigorodriguez4328
@rodrigorodriguez4328 16 күн бұрын
in the db universe, hax will never be enough if you are strong enough, you ever saw what beerus did to arale?
@swampfire9382
@swampfire9382 16 күн бұрын
@@spinoirrex2433 is this a joke once Goku goes super saiyan his aura negates that
@detectiveplays
@detectiveplays 16 күн бұрын
​@@rodrigorodriguez4328Alien X scales above anyone in db so thats not valid
@ashimbeast4732
@ashimbeast4732 17 күн бұрын
0:21 disagree, clockwork was able to restore infinite timeline destroyed by the chronosapain time bomb and each timeline ia a infinite size universe so you can scale Nad clockwork has a time ray that can one shot ben and can be relative to ben by slowing time. Clockwork slams goku😂
@moksh1106
@moksh1106 17 күн бұрын
Couldn't ben just scan Goku and become the most powerful Saiyan in the universe?
@yanim8s350
@yanim8s350 6 күн бұрын
No he would just become a saiyan with a pl of 60k or lower he wouldn't become a "goku" goku himself isnt the race so turning into a saying wont make him into a goku
@Kaotic_Falenhide
@Kaotic_Falenhide 15 күн бұрын
I mean, if you take into account how big Ben 10 cosmology is with quantum mechanics string theory and a type 4 multiverse, you can scale Alien X to high outer - boundless.
@wcom9999
@wcom9999 15 күн бұрын
@@Kaotic_Falenhide tell me u don't know shit about scaling ? Sorry for being rude . But u are misinformed . String theory don't even reach Outer . Ben 10 following quantum mechanics scales nowhere. Quantum mechanics is vast topic , the best part of it is Hilbert space which has some criteria, and ben 10 verse don't follow or fullfil those . Type 4 muktiverse is mathematical postulated muktiversal framework , which in itself would fall under physical dimensional existence . And that don't get past low Outer .
@Kaotic_Falenhide
@Kaotic_Falenhide 15 күн бұрын
@wcom9999 And this is coming from a dude that believes Goku can beat Alien X. So sorry kid, but you're not really a trustworthy source
@wcom9999
@wcom9999 15 күн бұрын
@Kaotic_Falenhide I don't think it but it's the truth . U can debate me anytime . Guess what no b10 goon had that gas to prove me wrong . Nevertheless that proposition has nothing to do with what I said above on powerscaling bascis . B 10 caps at hyper at highest interpretation.
@wcom9999
@wcom9999 15 күн бұрын
@Kaotic_Falenhide Lmao ask any credible guy ( don't ask tylearned sometimes he fumbles 😂) Tell me best b 10 scaler and debator I will make u contact him and he will say same thing that I did .
@Fighter_Z_9000
@Fighter_Z_9000 13 күн бұрын
​@@wcom9999 yoooo fax
@Lucifier-2
@Lucifier-2 17 күн бұрын
As a massive dragon ball fan Alien X beats dbs goku + the verse and cope, goku ain’t allat in his own verse.
@swampfire9382
@swampfire9382 17 күн бұрын
Idk about the verse ain’t Zeno erased a multiverse with a blink of an eye
@Lucifier-2
@Lucifier-2 17 күн бұрын
@@swampfire9382 he erased the universe but zeno is fodder you can perception blitz him easily
@DrnoobzHermida
@DrnoobzHermida 15 күн бұрын
@@Lucifier-2which Dragonball verse does alien x beat?
@Lucifier-2
@Lucifier-2 12 күн бұрын
@@DrnoobzHermida none in the verse beats him I’m afraid and I’m afraid beerus is not touching alien X either as well beerus Is getting cooked
@DrnoobzHermida
@DrnoobzHermida 12 күн бұрын
@ I’m sorry but characters in dragon ball hero’s should beat him
@chris-p9x
@chris-p9x 17 күн бұрын
Rip goku
@abdeljalalrachdimali350
@abdeljalalrachdimali350 17 күн бұрын
You mean alien x
@Fighter_Z_9000
@Fighter_Z_9000 17 күн бұрын
​@@abdeljalalrachdimali350 for reals
@Multiversedestroyer2.01
@Multiversedestroyer2.01 17 күн бұрын
True Saiyans can't breathe in space Any planet buster who is faster than Goku bodies him
@Fighter_Z_9000
@Fighter_Z_9000 17 күн бұрын
@Multiversedestroyer2.01 Actually, he can and false
@Multiversedestroyer2.01
@Multiversedestroyer2.01 17 күн бұрын
​@@Fighter_Z_9000oh yeah , that's why ssb vegeta died when earth exploded in resseruction f That's why in moro arc ,Goku said saiyans can't breathe in space when moro was escaping the planet That's why vegeta in resseruction f vegeta said " we saiyans can't breathe in space and it's hierarchy "
@FahimusAlimus
@FahimusAlimus 16 күн бұрын
The 6 thoughts statement from Derek isn’t reliable and has been debunked by the Ink Tank. That’s also not a Naljian, it’s Cosmic Mum. The statement about the Ben 10 universe seems to be talking about the cosmology as a whole rather than a single universe. Alien X is said to be beyond dimensions by the Man of Action making him outer. Pandimensional doesn’t mean unbound by dimensions, it means being connected to all of them. Pan- as a prefix means all-inclusive. The magazine strip is also not reliable.
@FireArtVids21
@FireArtVids21 16 күн бұрын
Also the fact Derrick is not even the writer nor creator of Ben 10 just the art director. Dude has a bunch of statements that contradicts the series, he tends to forget things and even admitted his statements are jokes.
@AIZEN_sama20
@AIZEN_sama20 15 күн бұрын
Scaling Alien x ( without author statements or anime fanboys will cry ) Ben 10 cosmology - The verse has quantum mechanics and string theory later it shows MWI too and its said by paradox in omniverse season 6 ep 1 ( i have no words for a dumb🔥s saying Paradox isn't reliable 🤓 ) In ben AF season 3 ep 12 naljians states that there are 26 dimensions that matters that doesn't mean that the verse is only 26 D there are way more More proofs In canon ben 10 comic ben meant beings who said that they belong to incalculable dimensions In Ben 10 and generator rex movie crossover where Doctor holiday said 'With infinite dimensions the maths doesn't work in your favour rex' This proves that ben 10 has infinite dimensions and bosonic string theory Proofs for Alpeh null existing in ben 10 ( go watch Ben 10 Af episodes properly ) Note Aleph - 1 is low 1 - A low outerverse level Quantum mechanics and infinite dimensions already provife type 3 multiverse Conclusion : A single universe in ben 10 is low 1A Now for multiverse Proof for set theory existing in Ben 10 rewatch ben 10 AF appiled mathematics equations to win in golf game Watch it very carefully Proof for universe following different laws of physics paradox said That is the next univervse over i don't like it it all the physics are terribly counterintuitive Proof for mathematical univesre omnitrix has its own universe or multiverse (Rewatch ben 10 destroy all alien movie when gwen ben and tatrax got stuck into omnitrix ) And its confirmed azmuth in secret of Omnitrix has its own multiverse (A type 4 multiverse abstracts even further the above positing that alternate spaces with different general principles of physics and mathematics exist independently of ours) This satisfy the condition for type 4 multiverse And type 4 multiverse scales to inaccessible layer into boundless Now lets scale Alein x Created a universe which scales to low 1A just by thinking To Brainless Anime fans : this isn't a universal feat A fraction of Alien x cuts through an extradimensional barrier Since universe in ben 10 are low 1A hence the barrier is high 1B atleast Also to mention that wad made by contumelia who are 5D beings 5 dimensional is just their existence not their AP (Even though Goku looks 3D but he scales to 6D so stop this lowball ) Even contumelia said intersecting even though they didn't know that someone could even cut the barrier (Go watch ben 10 omniverse finale if you don't believe me ) Proofs for plot manipulatation imagine changing the plit of their verse which is type 4 Celestial sapiens view their own cosmology as fiction which proves R>F transcendence Chazmuth himself in ben 10 omniverse ep trial of ben 10 ( We all know that celestialsapiens change the universe as long as my client changes his shirt ) This includes changing the art style,CGI,animation and voice artists Then azmuth photos were shown with three different versions, omniverse version, UAF version and OG version each one with different art style and outfit (Go watch ben 10 omniverse trail of ben if you don't believe me) This explains why trumpapior and big chill look different in UAF and omniverse Celestial sapiens scale way above choronosapien time bomr which capable of destroying a type 4 multiverse Whampire and ghostfreak cannot possess or absorb celestial sapiens Neither upchuck can't eat them Celestial sapiens cannot be killed using black hole Confirmed by author matt wayne In conclusion Immeasurable to irrelevant layers into boundless via type 4 multiverse Authors stated that celestialsapiens are completely omnipotent Who does he slams He solos anime, cartoons, videos games and 90% of marvel and DC Characters who can beat alien x TOAA Auren the absolute The presence Compostie spiderman Beyonder Spiderman Stan Lee The writers All characters from Scp foundation
@ClashMasterStudios
@ClashMasterStudios 17 күн бұрын
You do know that Ben has Other Than just Alien X yes He's the most Powerful Alien Ben Has But Has Other Aliens that have Multiversal Feat
@BarryAllen-o1x
@BarryAllen-o1x 10 күн бұрын
Goku: damn I couldn't beat him Sunwukong: don't fret my child
@Tickler1200
@Tickler1200 9 күн бұрын
@@BarryAllen-o1x Sun wukong and Goku aren't even in the same series 💀
@BarryAllen-o1x
@BarryAllen-o1x 8 күн бұрын
@Tickler1200 I know but his is Goku inspiration
@shadowninja8960
@shadowninja8960 17 күн бұрын
Ben could turn into peak saiyan and use the ultimate form
@XCGJ_1703
@XCGJ_1703 16 күн бұрын
A hypothetical Omnitrix Saiyan isn't beating Goku Bru. Ben will end up as a SSJ4 since that's the ultimate Saiyan evolution attainable naturally. SSJG is the result of a Saiyan gaining divine ki and is not attainable naturally which means ssjblue isn't attainable either since it's God ki plus super Saiyan.
@shadowninja8960
@shadowninja8960 16 күн бұрын
@XCGJ_1703 god ki isn't necessary, broly smashed two super saiyan blue forcing them to fuse Cabba didn't even know super saiyan and clashing with vegeta Ben's base potential would be comparable to broly since he represents the pinnacle of what saiyan can be And imagine broly getting a zenkai boost over million years straight 24/7 It's not have to be a saiyan ,imagine ben getting the DNA of freeza In 10 years of training he got from golden to black Imagine a million years of training for freeza
@CarlosGarcia91000
@CarlosGarcia91000 12 күн бұрын
X
@Helios-234
@Helios-234 17 күн бұрын
feedback would absorb kamehameha or ki blasts and then just throw them back at goku
@FireArtVids21
@FireArtVids21 17 күн бұрын
He can absorb the spirit bomb. Also if he wants to he can absorb Goku’s energy and drain his life force
@Plasma_trinity
@Plasma_trinity 16 күн бұрын
Goku teleports behind him and pummels him.
@juliusnovachrono4370
@juliusnovachrono4370 17 күн бұрын
I was waiting for this video.
@maniacgreen8609
@maniacgreen8609 17 күн бұрын
First beyblade now ben 10
@demonking_0892
@demonking_0892 16 күн бұрын
I agree with this video and this is coming from a Dragonball fan.. But there is one complaint i have with this video is how you straight up nerf Goku and highball Ben 10
@MohamedDekkal-yy3uh
@MohamedDekkal-yy3uh 17 күн бұрын
Honestlly goku's base line being 6d 5d can be high balled Totally agree And that alien x is 26d totally agree on the winer but honestlly it would have been better if you used stronger version of goku like cc or jump force
@Tv-qu8db
@Tv-qu8db 12 күн бұрын
in fact, I think that more than 1 alien can do something bad to Goku, and no one has canceled master control, but still, I’ll watch the video first to know for sure
@FireArtVids21
@FireArtVids21 11 күн бұрын
Also plus the omnitrix has a failsafe that’s not going to let Ben die
@ZAPRST8879
@ZAPRST8879 11 күн бұрын
I agree but now can alien x beat goku (cc/xeno), I'm genuinely curious because db heroes is the most inconsistent piece of shit when it comes to scaling (tf you mean he can be either low multiverse to complex multiverse to outerversal or even boundless?!?!?!)
@fanboy4382
@fanboy4382 15 күн бұрын
Alien X took a universe bomb to the face and turned back into Ben without injury.
@ourjoy2x527
@ourjoy2x527 17 күн бұрын
Alien X and Clockwork destroy Goku, and feedback possibly but Goku might be too fast for him.
@FireArtVids21
@FireArtVids21 17 күн бұрын
Feedback can absorb Goku’s energy and take his life force. You can argue Ultimate Waybig can fight Goku as well. He fought Dagon who is a multi dimensional being. Ultimate Waybig did lost to Dagon but he was able to hurt him with his cosmic rays and cut off one of his tentacles. I don’t think Goku has ever fought multi dimensional beings.
@ourjoy2x527
@ourjoy2x527 17 күн бұрын
@ feedback could definitely absorb anything goku throws at him, but that’s only if he he can react in time. If goku attacked Ben then the omnitrix could transform him into feedback fast enough to block but the omnitrix has faster reaction times than almost all of bens aliens
@itsmepunziwei8493
@itsmepunziwei8493 4 күн бұрын
Genuinely surprised that you didn't touch on any of the types 4 multiverse arguments for Alien X
@diosa2324
@diosa2324 17 күн бұрын
Bbz fans that's still arguing lol 😂 just admit your defeat
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 17 күн бұрын
Bbz? Idk what that is but all I know is DBZ GOKU SOLOS.
@Multiversedestroyer2.01
@Multiversedestroyer2.01 17 күн бұрын
Obviously they will argue. Goku fans are biggest gays of all time There is a reason he is most glazed character Any planetary character one shots Goku because Goku cannot survive space
@DagmawiKassahun-p4c
@DagmawiKassahun-p4c 16 күн бұрын
No he gets atomized badly​@@crashtime3429
@AishaSiddiqui-bk7bt
@AishaSiddiqui-bk7bt 15 күн бұрын
​@@crashtime3429in your dream
@Vellichoria
@Vellichoria 14 күн бұрын
Wanna debate kid?
@jeremymorris345
@jeremymorris345 9 күн бұрын
As a casual fan of both of the series growing up but then later really diving into both, I love this match up. I just love to think that these would agree to fight just to test each other, and then Ben freaks out when the Omnitrix immediately turns him into Alien X or one of his stronger aliens (it's been confirmed Alien X isn't the strongest in the Omnitrix). It's also funny because with their scaling, they are either relatively equal or completely stop one another depending on who you wank. While not common, I personally buy into the 12-14D Argument for Goku based on him being beyond Merged Zamasu (at least in the anime). There are also 3 different ways to get Goku to Outerversal. The very heavily debated afterlife scaling. The Arale scaling if you believe she is the exact same version from Dr. Slump, the fact that is debatable is funny. Also, Toryima straight up confirmed that Dragonball Online is canon to the Manga, and Xenoverse is a prequel to that game. Alien X also has the 26D potential statement, which would blow any non Outerversal Goku scaling out of the water. However, there is a lot to debate. For 1. Are Celestialsapians above Naljians? According to the creators, yes. According to the show, debatable as they don't see the Omnitrix and, by extent, Alien X as a threat. 2. If Alien X is above them, are they actually 26D because they only state they know of these dimensions, not that they are that powerful. 3. What is meant by destroying the Multiverse in Ben 10. 26D Feedback confirmed? However, if we throw out the highball scaling and put them both around 5-6D, Alien X wins do to his sheer amount of Hax that Goku wouldn't be able to deal with.
@fivescoop
@fivescoop 14 күн бұрын
Bro drip debunked your video on KZbin . Have you seen it? He wants to debate you on Dragon Ball cosmology.
@CpaHades
@CpaHades 14 күн бұрын
What? 😂
@MrReviewIt
@MrReviewIt 14 күн бұрын
No way bro😮
@Tylearned
@Tylearned 14 күн бұрын
Skipped thru it and saw the half assed editing so I jus ignored em😭 im a grown man if he wants to believe every character in dragon ball is outer then good for him
@GiftthandoZwane
@GiftthandoZwane 14 күн бұрын
​@@Tylearned I used to believe goku was outer until Drip sauce said he's high outer in base then i knew he's at max low multiversal to complex multiversal
@konstantindimitrov9190
@konstantindimitrov9190 14 күн бұрын
@GiftthandoZwane Drip never has stated that Goku is high outer. He has told me personally that Goku is 8 layers into Outerversal. Nothing higher.
@MMMG12
@MMMG12 17 күн бұрын
Need more ben 10 content fr 🤜🏾
@NomercyMohau14
@NomercyMohau14 17 күн бұрын
Damm when was the last time I heard ty scale a character past multiversal. Hyperversal, 5D, boundless. The good old days of power scaling
@DrFateBR
@DrFateBR 16 күн бұрын
There is no Boundless here.
@NomercyMohau14
@NomercyMohau14 16 күн бұрын
@ did you finish the video
@DrFateBR
@DrFateBR 16 күн бұрын
@@NomercyMohau14 yeah
@NomercyMohau14
@NomercyMohau14 16 күн бұрын
@@DrFateBR if you actually finished the video you can literally see him mention boundless scaling for both characters
@luisbriceno5242
@luisbriceno5242 16 күн бұрын
Great video.
@Tibsterv
@Tibsterv 17 күн бұрын
Superman v alien x would be more interesting
@KuroTheUnstoppableYT
@KuroTheUnstoppableYT 16 күн бұрын
I don't actually know because Jesus Christ Superman has done a whole of things
@Tibsterv
@Tibsterv 16 күн бұрын
@KuroTheUnstoppableYT I think CAS superman beats him, idk cuz apparently he scales higher
@DhruvchandraChandrq
@DhruvchandraChandrq 15 күн бұрын
​@@Tibstervno even base superman with cosmology one shot entire celestial race they are not close if you take cosmology
@Tibsterv
@Tibsterv 15 күн бұрын
@DhruvchandraChandrq yeah that's true
@Parth-ml9zy
@Parth-ml9zy 3 күн бұрын
not to mention that whatever alien ben transforms to is always the peak of species
@Masterchris-tt5tz
@Masterchris-tt5tz 16 күн бұрын
I really hate when people say no superman can beat Ben 10 ironman can beat Ben 10 Fucking green lantern can beat Ben 10 Like dude they don't even give you any good argument either Ben literally don't need alien x to beat green lantern or superman and Ben literally can't die because of the omnitricks many many fail-safes that changes him into many different aliens while the omnitrick creating a new copy human body for him heck he survived the literal bing bang with feedback and with alien x he doesn't need to move one step and Goku would be immediately gone out of existence itself " with just one blink it would be like you never existed"
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 16 күн бұрын
NLF
@shanushaha6640
@shanushaha6640 8 күн бұрын
People : Ben Goku can destroy you with just one punch. Alien X: What Goku ?
@prithwi0010
@prithwi0010 16 күн бұрын
Why are we still fighting on Alien X vs Goku when we know that even Zeno can't beat Alien X
@Fulminoxk
@Fulminoxk 12 күн бұрын
Clockwork can infact beat Goku due to having Multi+ and the maximum of DB strenght is low multi
@FireArtVids21
@FireArtVids21 11 күн бұрын
Clockwork could be scaled higher due to the cosmology
@randomdude6737
@randomdude6737 17 күн бұрын
not to mention the omnitrix can take goku's dna making a stronger goku lol
@XCGJ_1703
@XCGJ_1703 16 күн бұрын
Not really Ben would end up as a SSJ4 likely
@bubbachildsupport4535
@bubbachildsupport4535 16 күн бұрын
@@XCGJ_1703The omnitrix takes the dna and makes the prime of an alien, so it will probably get like SSJ god
@nathanielmilot8926
@nathanielmilot8926 17 күн бұрын
bro ben doesn't even need clockwork or alien x all he has to do is scan him with the omnitrix and become the peak of his species
@swampfire9382
@swampfire9382 17 күн бұрын
You keep forgetting Ultra instinct and God ki isn’t something attainable even if Ben does that he’d most likely turned into a Broly and MUi Goku slams Broly Ben can only beat Goku with alien X and idk about clockwork since we find out in db hax doesn’t work on the characters if they are more powerful than the other character
@DhruvchandraChandrq
@DhruvchandraChandrq 15 күн бұрын
Dam goku💀💀💀☠️ fans are menace to society scaling average human to boundless meanwhile when I said that single marvel atom has baseline extraversale scaling they are trying to deebunk proof there bulshit argument
@FireArtVids21
@FireArtVids21 15 күн бұрын
Dragon ball community is the most toxic and bias community in the world. Some of these dragon ball fanboys think dragon ball solos every verse and all of fiction.
@Cashtheedit
@Cashtheedit 15 күн бұрын
"average human" this is how I know you haven't seen db 😭🙏🏾
@DhruvchandraChandrq
@DhruvchandraChandrq 15 күн бұрын
​@@Cashtheedit no they literally take dr slump statement that human in db is boundless I am not joking
@Cashtheedit
@Cashtheedit 14 күн бұрын
@@DhruvchandraChandrq ohh I thought you were talking about Goku
@KaptanDest
@KaptanDest 16 күн бұрын
Lastly ; the alien x clones arent clones like in db , EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS EQUAL AND SAME TO THE ORIGINAL . A celestial sapein like galactic gladiator DID NOT ATTACKED not because he was confused BUT BCS THERE WOULDNT BE ANY POINT IN ATTACKING ANY OF THEM since every one of them is equally powerfull . Galactic gladiator has 2 minds which means he has a serena and belicus too . They are smart and knowladgable enough to know the real alien x and attack him head on and ignore the fake ones if they werent ifninite as the original .
@gioelecatania3921
@gioelecatania3921 12 күн бұрын
Goku cant win against a reality warper to start
@Sam-s5e5l
@Sam-s5e5l 11 күн бұрын
Can you prove that alien x reality works on a stronger being than him
@gioelecatania3921
@gioelecatania3921 11 күн бұрын
@Sam-s5e5l if you think Goku Is stronger your Just dumb, even talking about scaling theres a difference in cosmology, stop being delusional, if Goku prove that he Is immune to any type of reality warping than you have a point ..otherwise no, he cant even survive in space.
@Sam-s5e5l
@Sam-s5e5l 11 күн бұрын
​​@@gioelecatania3921first Goku is stronger than alien x Goku is outer he can destroy after life which is a higher plane of existence and which Transcend other dimensions and have no concept of time and space and time beyond dimensionality and connected to the microcosm in a most highest metaphysical level so afterlife easily scale to outer there for Goku is outer and you can't prove that he can wrap the reality of a character stronger than him
@gioelecatania3921
@gioelecatania3921 11 күн бұрын
@Sam-s5e5l Goku cant destroy After Life .. he never did that to begin with, and as i said Goku die in space .. so this Is not even a fight ..Just accept It ..the manga itself state It
@gioelecatania3921
@gioelecatania3921 11 күн бұрын
@Sam-s5e5l like man dont try to glaze characters with some no sense and (never happened) feats ..i understand you like Goku but for God sake he literally cant survive in space and you talk about trascending space and time..nothing make sense in dragon ball especially super.. Just stop take this feats with no background, its Just sad
@ashuraomega1000
@ashuraomega1000 17 күн бұрын
The most impressive thing about Goku shaking the World of Void is the fact that the dimension itself lacks time and space and Goku shook it meaning he's above both of these properties. Also you technically can make an argument for 6D+ Goku at least during the end of the TOP because There were statements like in the jump magazines that stated that Goku and Beerus's battle was "Super dimensional" and that even Beerus's power alone was "beyond dimensions", super dimensional on its own dosent mean much without proper context but the definition of the term usually just means "1+ dimensional" aka scaling 1 extra layer into dimensional power which means Goku in BOG can already be scaled to 6th dimensional levels of strength by applying that term onto Goku's macrocosm feat in his fight with Beerus. This doesn't change much against his matchup with Alien X though. Either way good video
@JadoBouhzam
@JadoBouhzam 17 күн бұрын
Hello awesoms vid so far yeah i do think alien x wins here if u use 4d to 5d scale for him however i do think goku can be scaled higher or relative to alien x via scaling to arale who in her showing in dr slump arale is canon to dragon ball by the way as she has had multiple showing in og dragon ball helping goku with the red ribbon and in super goku was relative to her and beerus hakia was a threat to her this same arale performed a feat in dr slump where she exited her own manga page cut the page of the manga and in the next page was shown holding the same page she cut which that page showing her holding also same page she cut implyimg an infinite transcendence over her own fiction as she would be seeing that arale as fiction which is basicallu high hyperversal feat and also for the whole goku isnt immeasurable speed it is shown in dragon ball power and speed are tied together so the higher power the higher speed corresponding to said power increase meaning when jiren was stated to transcend time not only does that mean his power but also speed are both increases are tied together meaninv jiren would have immeasurable speed of combat speed at least and goku litrally forcing himself into the future fighting hit and holdimg off or being stated to be more powerful than merged zamsu who litrally became omnipresent and was leaking into the present timeline proving immeasurable speed and goku by the tournament of power has power to beat that omnipresent merged zamasu
@phAccel8362
@phAccel8362 13 күн бұрын
Oh no some DB fans can't accept the facts and they will get mad🤣🤣🤣
@Light-qs1qk
@Light-qs1qk 13 күн бұрын
And the down playing dB was crazy
@noelgoodwin4135
@noelgoodwin4135 17 күн бұрын
Ben could win with clockwork
@ishan61
@ishan61 17 күн бұрын
@@noelgoodwin4135 He can even give him a Great Fight with Atomix
@noelgoodwin4135
@noelgoodwin4135 17 күн бұрын
@@ishan61 or Ben could scan gokus dna
@ishan61
@ishan61 17 күн бұрын
@noelgoodwin4135 yep, then it will be Broly vs Goku all over again 😂
@georgie545
@georgie545 17 күн бұрын
⁠@@noelgoodwin4135That wouldn’t do a thing. Ben can turn into a saiyan, maybe even a super saiyan given that he transforms into a prime version of that species. So SSJ Ben is possible. But Goku’s god powers, his UI, his techniques, etc; all came from him and his training, rather than his dna. Goku> Ben 10 version of Goku
@noelgoodwin4135
@noelgoodwin4135 17 күн бұрын
@@georgie545 KAKOROT
@richardrubalcaba1365
@richardrubalcaba1365 16 күн бұрын
When he shakes a world of void that means he put all of his energy across the void and shook that
@Baldy1-mz3lp
@Baldy1-mz3lp 17 күн бұрын
Clockwork solos
@yaboiplank6764
@yaboiplank6764 12 күн бұрын
Clockwork and Atomix can tussle
@BarcaCatalonia-v1e
@BarcaCatalonia-v1e 14 күн бұрын
Cool video but isn't BoG battle stated to be super dimentional ? isn't the otherworld stated in daizenshuu to transcend dimentionality ? if yes then i could say that Z goku will have a chance , but with normal scale of goku them allien X wins.
@Tylearned
@Tylearned 14 күн бұрын
Bog isn’t super dimensional 😭 they were threatening to destroy the universe And that’s a miss trans, afterlife is above the human realm, not ALL dimensions
@abdeljalalrachdimali350
@abdeljalalrachdimali350 14 күн бұрын
Yamcha negs alien x
@Fighter_Z_9000
@Fighter_Z_9000 13 күн бұрын
​@Tylearned how tf is it a mistranslation??😭😭😭They were threatening to destroy the entire macrocosm. The Afterlife transcends dimensions, and another scan says it's Dimensionality transcendental bro😭😭 which makes the Afterlife Outerversal. In the guidebook for the movie it was described as a Super Dimensional battle. A Super Dimension means Beyond Higher Dimensionality easily making both characters Outerversal bare minimum 👌
@Light-qs1qk
@Light-qs1qk 13 күн бұрын
​@@Tylearnedit's stated to transcend dimensions that cannot proceed by mortal realm and after life have no concept of time and space and is stated to transcend dimensionality and connected to the microcosm by a metaphysical level which is definitely scale to outer
@Nitetgxj
@Nitetgxj 2 күн бұрын
When you guys, Ben can just become a Saiyan because his watch auto copies alien DNA and give him the strongest version of the race
@SethJohnson-z6v
@SethJohnson-z6v 16 күн бұрын
Alien X is just the definition of “I’m him and I will solo your whole verse”
@SethJohnson-z6v
@SethJohnson-z6v 16 күн бұрын
Also I keep forgetting to say this but if we remember the omnitrix quite literally makes the most perfect version of the alien possible,removing weaknesses
@Tickler1200
@Tickler1200 15 күн бұрын
@@SethJohnson-z6v Can he beat Goku tho ?
@CarlosGarcia91000
@CarlosGarcia91000 12 күн бұрын
L
@Kirbing0
@Kirbing0 16 күн бұрын
I’d beat both no diff
@ndibunwapeter9013
@ndibunwapeter9013 17 күн бұрын
Sun wukong solos both.
@TheFaxualScaler
@TheFaxualScaler 17 күн бұрын
w
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 17 күн бұрын
depends on the version of Wukong.
@ndibunwapeter9013
@ndibunwapeter9013 17 күн бұрын
@@crashtime3429 The wukong that scales nirvana.
@alphawolf8503
@alphawolf8503 17 күн бұрын
Not even close alien X solos
@KuroTheUnstoppableYT
@KuroTheUnstoppableYT 16 күн бұрын
For sure
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