Could Goku ACTUALLY Solo Super Smash Brothers Ultimate? ( In Lore)

[@GeneralGoji]

Goku when he tries to spot dodge the King K.Rool down-smash at 50%:

[@Strider_Mane]

HE’S DONE FOR 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥

[@Thekingdededewkdk]

LOL real

[@siringc]

At ledge he's done

[@Marcuskwok-hn5yi]

let say hypothetically,you get grabbed by luigi at 0%

[@Marcuskwok-hn5yi]

also wave dashing fox from melee and brawl meta knight

[@justamicrowave5297]

Goku: vegeta… did… did we finally beat them? Kirby with vegeta hair charging a galick gun:

[@BeDatAPickle]

That'd make some fire fanart tbh 😂

[@Drawingkid-y9c]

@@BeDatAPickleI’m making that

[@Drawingkid-y9c]

@@BeDatAPicklecan i use this comment

[@BeDatAPickle]

@@Drawingkid-y9c That's really cool, but I'm not sure why you're asking me when I didn't make the original comment

[@Drawingkid-y9c]

@@BeDatAPickle yours and there’s so I had to ask one of them

[@Skynetbear]

Here’s a fun game, take a drink every time the words, universal, multiversal, and dimensional are said

[@genesismultiverse4896]

HeY dId yoU NoTice hE loOkS LikE tHaT ChaRacTeR from LeGo nINjAGo (falls unconscious)

[@johnpett1955]

I'd pass out halfway through.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

@@johnpett1955 And i SaId I cAn (hiccup) CaN outd oUtD OuTd..... dRiNk moRe tHaN yOu (falls unconscious)

[@TaMarvio2129]

No you'd die😭😭😭

[@chaddangersexhaver98]

Or "relative"

[@A_Gamez_and_Editz]

Fun fact: Akira Toriyama made Both Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest So we put two of Akira's most famous projects against eachother RIP Akira Toriyama btw he made the character designs for Dragon Quest

[@Eeel-6-cd]

Toriyama did the design of dragon quest not dragon quest

[@k-bomb9777]

Technically he just designed the art for it but another cool connection is that Dragon Quest was a direct inspiration to Mother/Earthbound which is pretty cool imo :]

[@Eeel-6-cd]

@@k-bomb9777 basically every rpg is inspired by dragon quest

[@Jacksontrooper777]

​@@Eeel-6-cdalso when it comes to Chrono trigger Tales of Symphonia and Golden Sun?

[@k-bomb9777]

@@Eeel-6-cd Okay smartass, what does that add or take away from anything I said?

[@UltraLegoEnthusiast]

Goku: did we beat them? vegeta: bro that was just bowser

[@myusername3689]

That's being really generous to them both

[@gameuniverse5973]

Honestly you can argue bowser might win

[@cyberkid7255]

​@@gameuniverse5973 Bowser WILL win. He's tanky asf.

[@KirbyStarAnimation]

@@gameuniverse5973Cough cough dreamy bowser cough cough.

[@Strider_Mane]

@@KirbyStarAnimation OUT OF THE QUESTION, KING K ROOL SPIKING GOKU IS REAL 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🐊👑

[@Pokejirafan2004]

(Vegeta, Broly, Frieza, Beerus are all in a pile knocked out) Goku: HOW THE FUCK IS HE SO STRONG, HE'S JUST A PLUMBER!!?!?! Mario: wahoo I like spaghetti!

[@Denise-jm1cz]

Goku : WHAT THE FUCK HOW THIS LITTIE ANYMALS ARE SO STRONG sonic and kirby:chlly dogs ,poyo wahoo Mario joins the chat Goku:☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@getthedunkon9347]

I will be fair to Goku and say Mario at least needs Luigi's help to dodge. Because alone he'll get hit too often and too fast.

[@theoverseer1775]

Zeno: WHAT THE FUCK WHY CAN'T I ERASE THIS PINK LITTLE SHIT Kirby: Haaaiiiii!

[@Denise-jm1cz]

​@@getthedunkon9347yea i agree but mario prob beat goku

[@getthedunkon9347]

@@Denise-jm1cz If he gets his strong hits off quickly then yes but he REALLY needs the help of Luigi to get speed required to dodge. Maybe to hit back too. He might not be enough in the speed department

[@King_Lejin]

Bro didn’t even have to mention Sephiroth and Cloud’s KH scaling which is also absurd 💀

[@k0dori]

Fr 😭

[@StevenJones851]

there too powerful lol

[@Geobot3000]

He stops at Mario. Continued watching and he probably started with duck hunt for that specific reason 💀

[@farrisyhakimi1727]

Fax!!!

[@hyperkl1219]

Eh I got goku over Mario, but it is what it is

[@Galberosfaith]

Goku fans would go mario and luigi struggled against dog lol That was from the movie not game lol

[@farrisyhakimi1727]

@@Galberosfaith that's when they first just starting out they're solo Goku

[@farrisyhakimi1727]

@@Galberosfaith like their managed to swim out a black hole

[@alexbaribeault]

Kirby scales to Galacta-Knight and the Lor Starcutter, who can travel beyond time by moving through a space which is stated to be superior to time, space, and dimensions (Another Dimension). He also scales to the destruction of said space via Void Termina and Magolor. He's 5D and immeasurable. You also didn't account for Kirby's hax. Even if he was that much slower and weaker, he could still revive himself enough times to come up with the plan to stop time and use an instant win con, like transmutation/deconstruction, and friend hearts. This is more of a stretch of course, but it barely matters since Kirby holds the stat trinity.

[@AydenWilliams-z3k]

@@alexbaribeault you're the first person that actually shows proof instead of repeating "he beats gods" or "he can just swallow them up"

[@alexbaribeault]

@@AydenWilliams-z3k Most Kirby VS debaters are total noobs when it comes to power-scalling. They're not toxic per say, but they can be annoyingly ignorant.

[@AydenWilliams-z3k]

@@alexbaribeault true that's why I think kirby Is overrated saying he can beat anyone just by taking there power isn't gonna work but thx for actually give proof

[@KirbyStarAnimation]

@@alexbaribeault A fellow person who does their research with the puff ball. Also the final level of Kirby star allies was stated to be outside of time in the pause screen. Not to mention the likes of star dream, Galacta knight, Morpho knight, and chaos elfilis greatly upscale Magolor. And void is stronger than all of them.

[@alexbaribeault]

@@AydenWilliams-z3k The strongest Smash chraracter that Kirby can beat, in my opinion, is Mario. Even that is debatable due to Mario potentially being much stronger and having more effective revives, but I think Kirby edges out via speed and layered emphatic hax. While Kirby is over-hyped, he's not much different from Goku himself in that regard. Whenever a strong character exists and people ask "Can they beat Goku though?", "Can they beat Kirby?" is a question that comes up not long after. Both questions come from the fact that both characters are easily percieved as icons of power for anime and video games respectively, primarily due to the fact that their feats are very blatantly impressive and generally don't leave much room for interpretation.

[@celticjordan1]

DC universe comes in “we have superman”. Mario “we have a Goku”….

[@BrandonScott-mi5pz]

EXCELLENT WORK. GOJI CHRONIC DRAGON BALL VS SUPER SMASH BROS

[@paragonandarky]

Superman wins

[@ART3M1S]

“We have a hedgehog”

[@15bitGod]

Mario: "We have-a the Goku. Lets-a go!"

[@hunterculpepper1973]

​@@paragonandarky no unironically mito.outo sakraos kirby wins super man would lose to sora as much as I'd want him and goku to beat him thiers not much they could do it's like super man vs raven unorcly my favorite charater but snaoping super man prime 1 million out of existence is an example of how much stronger kirby is than goku and super man and unironically super man would lose to both cell and majin buu to beings that regerate and when thier fed could blow up the solor system and evtuly the sun kid buu would instantly blow up the planet but cell i don't know if he would but his stregth level is solor system level he can unironically beat most versions of super man and if he trained he'd become universal and thus would be considered symetra level who killed super man by the way raven at full power is equivalent to elaine beloc and could blink all of dc so yes she can beat cell and makin buu effortlessly but the justice league unironically loses to both cell and buuhan

[@lonkstakes]

This video was definitiely made on time without any crunch

[@risky5940]

MY GOAT

[@FrenzyFanboy]

Definitely

[@MrNo-rb5qf]

This week is Dragon Ball week. First Bardock getting disrespected by Death Battle, Sparking Zero, Daima, and then this

[@steampunk1902]

@@MrNo-rb5qf nah at this point people mostly see deathbattle as a meme

[@konoheisenbergda]

Yajirobe Vs JoJo’s lookin juicy ya know?

[@dawsonsarcade7670]

Let's make Olimar beating Goku with a can opener a joke in the power scaler community

[@BrickBaker95]

A rather simple yet phenomenal idea.

[@RambunctiousTomfoolery]

I feel like the pikmin subreddit would love this

[@Kami.Asura000]

Careful, Dragon Ball fans don't know how to take jokes

[@firefallgaming12]

@@Kami.Asura000yea, I can’t

[@nycto4512]

@@Kami.Asura000as a cabba fan, i can confirm that they can only enjoy jokes that have been around for at least 2 decades

[@theoverseer1775]

I have no idea what 90% of Smash characters can do but Goku ain't getting past the hungry piece of bubblegum that's for sure

[@TJModelNo.1]

Saiyan Saga Vegeta: what a weak planet. Not even a single challenge. Olimar with a can opener:

[@urm0m69]

Bro down0layed Sonic and he still won, I'm so proud of Goji rn

[@Goji-C]

Lmao ☠️

[@Native-heavenly]

Fr Sonic is high outer which is a regular scale I could argue bloundless

[@heroofthewinds7765]

@@Native-heavenly Yeah no. The most you can argue for Game Sonic is Low Complex Multiversal (Which I do admittedly buy). I don't buy any of that "Concepts are High Outerversal" crap (I use VSBW"s standards for tiers).

[@AydenWilliams-z3k]

​@@Goji-Cdid you know that darksphine sonic rewite the arbien nights that had an infinite amount of universe im just saying this as a fun fact nothing really important

[@Thekingdededewkdk]

Lol

[@Solesteam]

5:00 Rob is canonically from our world... The plane of existence that brought Zeno into their existence He's not all that cut-and-dry if you think about it that way...

[@firefallgaming12]

Ok? Uhhhhhhhhh goku wins cause idc

[@Necroblaze]

And since he is a toy, you can think of anything a child has ever thought of with him to be canon, and since we don't know the limit of some children's imagination, I would personally say that ROB is the strongest character in the entire game

[@Solesteam]

@@Necroblaze Why just children? If I go out and buy a rob and have him beat the fusion between Lord Beerus and Champa then little ol Goku is done.

[@Necroblaze]

@Solesteam I'm just letting everyone know the lowest cannon. Obviously I can imagine Rob being able to nuke everything and no one can say no when I was a child. But now I can add on to that. Such that he can shoot little rubber duckies that instantly kill you... and you still can't say no about it

[@joshuafrazier3904]

Arceus in a corner chilling at 5th dimensional being salty that Mewtwo was called the strongest Pokemon.

[@richardmorgan3665]

Yeah I thought that too but then I realized he's only referring to the playable Pokémon in Smash. Also is Arceus only 5D, I'd think it was stronger since it's the Pokémon equivalent of a capital G God.

[@mynameisntimportant1374]

@@richardmorgan3665 outer at best 6D lowballed

[@dsm2417]

Base Goku is stronger then…

[@GOAT-ganyu]

​@@dsm2417 Bleach has cho-jigen too means Ichigo in base is outerversal (no), you misreading db fan who can't give any normal proof stfu

[@peteriter]

Can Nintendo stop making multi-universal characters for just 5 minutes!!?

[@RadenRobin]

Nintendo. No at least we'll be doing Universal characters for Zelda.

[@Fumokoshi]

Well...they made game of the same Francine like mario kirby zelda etc, to avoid, why can't... beat...his old enemy that he beat is stronger! So they need tp make stronger enemy, or enemy that are problem but not strong.

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@peteriter nintendo cooks up just strong chars like it nothing

[@The_Gabe]

Winners (characters Goku couldn’t beat in *this video* spoilers ahead): Sonic Bayonetta Joker Shulk Aegis Terry Mario Luigi Bowser Bowser Jr. Wario Yoshi Rosalina Peach Daisy DK Diddy K Rool Sora Luminary Erdrick Sephiroth Cloud Honestly he did better than I expected

[@jradkillsu]

Honestly, kind of expected. And sonic is still much stronger. There are other videos that have been calculating sonic's power as time goes on. Last vid I watched stated that sonic is 12th dimensional in base with 13th dimension mental attacks and his super form ups the scales by 9. He has alot going for him. Plus, all of the others have their own feats to prove on a higher scale in their own rights.

[@eking5165]

Diddy?

[@Ahorroranimator]

Glad to see you're still active :)

[@theperfectidio1]

​@@eking5165Diddy Kong

[@christoferrodriguez7672]

Goku ultra instinct will win 🏆

[@kirbmaster9405]

goku when his recovery gets stopped by 3 dirt blocks:

[@superbowsersilva]

You gave Mario the justice that he deserves thank you, Goji

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@superbowsersilva finally I hate people who think sonic is a multiversal monster yet don't think Mario can easily get to that level as well higher with sonic it crazy how high both can get it like they where really made to be rivals in everything

[@wooperdatrooper9171]

Steve

[@Thekingdededewkdk]

Yeah W

[@AydenWilliams-z3k]

@@gameuniverse5973 I agree and disagree, mario is hella underrated but there are those fans that say he can solo sonic verse with ease. I think it probably cuz most mario fans hate sonic fans but there are people that actually do know that mario and sonic can go Either way but in short mario is really underrated sonic kinda underrated but overrated kirby is one the most overrated characters In fiction

[@mickeelsolomon7743]

@@AydenWilliams-z3k sonic def not underrated

[@CoffeeDrinkerKim]

I actually disagree with the Zelda scaling. Zelda’s mid tiers consistently create entire dimensions with what is essentially a fraction of the power of a single Triforce piece (Vaati and Zant for example). Ocarina of Time Ganondorf alone already scales above statements like Rauru having “power stronger than time” as well as the Master Sword itself having an in game description describing it as transcending time. Plus there’s also the statement of how when he obtained the Triforce “his laugh echoed across time and space” (the Japanese translation actually uses a term synonymous to “transcending” as well.) Imo that’s 3 examples of this version of Ganondorf alone being 5D with arguably immeasurable speed. This isn’t even touching new info from Echoes of Wisdom where Zelda and Link can persist in a void without time, where other characters are explicitly frozen as a result. Edit: I disagree with the Kirby scaling too but other comments have already touched on it.

[@minecraftlord189]

Garlic jr created a hyperspace at a power level of 4,000, making him 4D

[@minecraftlord189]

Goku has also forced himself ahead in time which was stated by King Kai.

[@CoffeeDrinkerKim]

@@minecraftlord189 4D Dragon Ball isn’t something I disagree with. Although “forced ahead of time” in my opinion feels a little vague and could mean anything from speeding up one’s own local time to even just being hyperbolic of being faster than expected.

[@Ferhios]

Also don't forget that we are talking about "lore" here, which means that at least this version of Ganondorf has had the complete triforce in the Falldown Timeline, and it grants the power of the three Goddesses to its wielder (According to japanese version of A Link to the Past)... you know, the same three goddesses that created the entire verse from Zelda. Plus, understandably, this video ignores HAX here... this version of Link has the ancient arrows that have the power of existential erasure (That's some Hakai right there).

[@CoffeeDrinkerKim]

@@FerhiosI’m 2 weeks late, but it’s also worth noting that Full Triforce scaling for ALTTP Ganon is even more insane than what I already wrote. The Goddesses, and thus the complete Triforce, transcend the already 5D cosmology of the Zelda multiverse, and are demonstrably hierarchical superior. Triforce Ganon is arguably 6D under this logic. (That being said, I will note that powerscaling is inherently unfalsifiable. Therefore there is no “correct” interpretation)

[@JoyboyEdotz]

Bro did steve dirty With creative mode and commands steve can lift the multiverse,is easily ftl, can summon monsters,is literally invinsable/immortal,can just delete worlds which have 3 different dimensions each, and with mods he can do infinite dmg

[@alt-NotReallyKnown]

Facts

[@BlairMatthews-h4f]

Is Steve in creative mode in smash and mods ain't part of the game

[@tornado5d267]

I love the idea of goku meat riders foaming at the mouth over the thought that Luigi and sonic could like one shot him

[@Hydraniac]

im fine with my goat luigi one shotting goku

[@tornado5d267]

@@Hydraniac as am I

[@Nameless_Godzilla]

And just like that, you’ve already scaled dozens of new characters in a single vid

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@Nameless_Godzilla with him on several chars actually scaling them decently

[@first_8_digits_of_Pi]

goku when mario and luigi pull up with a teleporting window and a purple 2-headed flower: 💀

[@Denise-jm1cz]

Sonic with full power joins the chat Tails can't die joins the chat Mario with a hammer joins the chat Luigi wins by aboluty nothing joins the chat Goku :i really dead rn💀

[@mysticchimp547]

Then goku pulls up with MUI Mario and Luigi: please Goku we need this😂

[@KirbyStarAnimation]

So let’s talk about Kirby as the resident Kirby nerd I am. Magolor was powered by the master crown. The master crown is made of only dark matter. The master crown scales than the grand doomer which contains infinite dimensions inside of it and scales higher than the regular doomers which are each their own dimension inside. Star dream was easily able to create a perfect clone of a strong dark matter creature which was as strong as the master crown. Galacta knight can one shot star dream. Morpho knight had the power of galacta knight and was way stronger than him. Chaos elfilis had the power of Morpho knight and was way stronger than him. Void is the origin of dark matter and can produce an infinite amount of dark matter and is confirmed to be Kirby’s strongest enemy as well as the origin of all chaos in Kirby’s cosmology. That gets through a massive scaling chain Chaos elfilis to at least complex multiversal and void to high complex multiversal at least. And Kirby can beat void. TLDR Kirby solos Goku.

[@AydenWilliams-z3k]

@@KirbyStarAnimationwhat does TLDR mean?

[@mariatukoroma3900]

​@@AydenWilliams-z3kToo lazy didn't read

[@KirbyStarAnimation]

@@AydenWilliams-z3k Too Long, Didn’t Read. It basically means as a very short abbreviation.

[@AydenWilliams-z3k]

@@KirbyStarAnimation oh thx

[@AydenWilliams-z3k]

@@mariatukoroma3900 thx

[@TripleDakury]

Steve: *Enters creative mode* "I... am Steve"

[@LightningX377.]

You forgot that void termina, much like solaris, is stated to be super dimensional and omnipresent both temporarily and spatially. Edit:I know super dimensional is just 1 dimensional layer above the cosmology.

[@IsaiahJones-rw1pc]

"Super dimensional" means nothing without context. The definition of the term on its own just means "1+ dimensional" aka scaling 1 extra layer into dimensional power. Some other series' like Dragon Ball have described the interpretation of super dimensional to be "beyond dimensions" which could be scaled to outerversal but even that is a pretty shoddy argument because just like how being "beyond space and time" doesn't entail transcending all extensions of time and space, "beyond dimensions" would only mean transcending the dimensions which have actually been shown.

[@starjones7050]

Goku and Beerus' fight in battle of gods was also stated to be "super dimensional" with even Beerus' power alone being described as "beyond dimensions". The same thing was also stated for Gogeta and Broly's fight in the Broly movie and it was even stated and shown that Gogeta and Broly while clashing broke through higher dimensional "super spaces" in their fight

[@giganoterror2500]

@@LightningX377. ..That is literally never stated, ever.

[@mavriiick]

​@@giganoterror2500LITERALLY. These guys are just making stuff up 😭

[@Marcuskwok-hn5yi]

where? am i missing something?

[@Tenyearsinthejoint2005]

Ah hell naw he hit us with the Multi-City Block Metal Gear

[@Goji-C]

I know mfs who argue much higher lmao

[@MECHIE445]

Same with pac man, which is at least universal

[@m.rahendralupif9702]

It's pretty consistent, if anything you could scale snake even higher

[@GeneFOX70]

Calcs and statements can get the verse up to MFTL+ and country level.

[@MECHIE445]

@GeneFOX70 Hello, Pac man got way more low balled

[@EdmundiumHitting]

One zero to death Wario combo and he’s done for.

[@shahcamranahmed9056]

@@EdmundiumHitting Did you tell your friends to unblock me?

[@domdollahyt]

Wait til he realizes all the FE reps have taken down a god who reset the multiverse 💀💀💀

[@generalgarchomp333]

He'd have to actually look into FE lore for that. And it seems he did the "hurdur they just sword guys" and ignore that Robin is casually FTL even ignoring Heroes.

[@domdollahyt]

@ I remember seeing a post about Grima being so big that their effects on gravity would destroy Earth just by them being there lol. My boy Donnel no diffs Homelander 😭😭😭

[@xxjoebamaxx7782]

Ok maybe, but we don't like fire emblem

[@TheMEGAStar-DR3AM]

Magalor did not create/destroy just a universe. When the fought Magalor, they fought him in a *dimension* created to erase Kirby from *existence*

[@Chill-Noob1]

Wait what?

[@justjames4]

@@TheMEGAStar-DR3AM Another Dimension wasn't created by Magolor. It's a macrocosm of parallel universes and roads beyond the space-time continuum.

[@BlueJourney2719]

Kirby: You just inhaled your last Senzu Bean

[@kingtorra6955]

The Kirby disrespect is real

[@FrankBeaulieu]

Short answer: I don't know, I'm still watching the video

[@TheSuperGoober]

Bro really brushed off and ignored like 90% of Kirby scaling huh...

[@Chill-Noob1]

Fr 😭

[@Dr.Boundless]

Honestly, I feel like Goku would have a lot of trouble soloing Super Smash Bros. Video game characters are just TOO broken to be honest.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Almost all the smash chars have actual higher scaling than you would expect It funny how Samus is actually easily planet

[@casey997]

Kirby is a creature of demonic origins

[@lukejones7164]

​@@gameuniverse5973 Canon Samus is a Planet Buster

[@dragonhearted7761]

That's why you pull out the video game gokus to clap back lmao

[@boynet7666]

@@dragonhearted7761 Like Xenoverse Goku?

[@Power-kn6fk]

0:20 You said gods 3 times

[@lukejones7164]

Bro, Fire Emblem Three Houses sold over 4 million copies its clearly popular lol

[@axiom6000]

I don’t understand how Sonic is only 5D when it’s explicitly stated that the Game Sonic multiverse is the same size as Archie’s.

[@heroofthewinds7765]

I'm actually interested in where that's stated. Even then, the most you can argue for Archie Sonic's cosmology is 12D.

[@axiom6000]

@@heroofthewinds7765 Ian Flynn the main author for the Archie Comics stated that they are parallel universes on his Podcast called the BumbleKast. If you want I could find the exact episode.

[@axiom6000]

@@heroofthewinds7765 Ian Flynn the author of the Archie Comics said it on his podcast. Flynn is a lore manager for the Games currently.

[@heroofthewinds7765]

@@axiom6000 Ah okay that actually makes sense.

[@IsaiahJones-rw1pc]

That would only make him 6D at most

[@JoeLikesBlue]

Under sold Kirby and didn’t even try with Fire Emblem. Though I have been thirsting for Pokémon scaling content, maybe you’ll do better on that.

[@CodeMarbles]

tbf Fire Emblem is a pretty weak verse until you account for spinoffs like Heroes and Engage, neither of which are in Smash.

[@StarvingAngel4583]

@@CodeMarblesnah Anakhos and grima put the verse to universal at least

[@waffleboi7487]

Honestly I expected the Kingdom Hearts and Xenoblade verse to solo Goku. Kingdom Hearts and the Conduit aren’t jokes in their respective verses

[@2火]

One word. Hedgehog.

[@MoogsPoyo]

The only way I could see Goku losing against Ryu... Is if he were against a Composite Ryu which... Unironically from the stuff I've read, a composite Ryu VS a Composite Goku is one of the most absurd and bonkers debates I've seen In awhile due to just how much shit they get lol. Good vid

[@sridrawings4510]

Is mvc ryu OPier than DBS goku?

[@MoogsPoyo]

@@sridrawings4510 Maybe. There is a lot of insane shit they get. Ryu gets to become a power ranger, a transformer, he gets to scale to high tier marvel characters, gets fallguys stuff. While Goku gets xenoverse/heroes stuff, he gets the 4d God fusion thing and jump force scaling... Oh and both get Fortnite scaling yippee. so yeah its a weird debate

[@lynnusuk2092]

I mean he has Terry beating Goku and KoF Terry is canon to street fighter. With Street fighter 6 Ken and Ryu being able to evenly fight Terry in the story mode, so there's a way to argue for normal Ryu.

[@im_endzo]

bro knew if he mentioned anything beyond surface level when it came to Kirby, goku would be dead in the water

[@Thekingdededewkdk]

LET'S GOOOO Also Mario scaling vid fr? (It would be great ngl)

[@gameuniverse5973]

I need someone to finally do a good Mario scaling

[@gameuniverse5973]

Mario,bayo,sonic, joker, and sora kinda solo on their own Also i am glad you did mentioned star level olimar Also there a argument of the dog in stalemating since the zapper kid is arguably in a higher dimension so it means goku cant kill him Also good scaling for most of the chars you actually tried looking into all the chars

[@SoftwareNeos]

Where do you get Solar System level Fire emblem? i know of heroes. But ive only seen continental to planetary level stuff in the normal verse

[@MECHIE445]

Pac man is actually universe with immeasurable speed that's true

[@KingRenryuji]

Joker one taps Dragon ball.

[@dsm2417]

Goku outscales them all by far even in Battle of gods to black arc as he outscales beings who can threaten super timelines and has been and affected realms without the concept of time and space

[@dsm2417]

@@KingRenryujinot even close

[@EldritchSama]

Sonic, Joker and Kirby: 🥰

[@thedarknessinthelight9824]

You forgot to mention that The End states that every single one of Sonic's past foes were finite in comparison to itself in the original ending, thus solidifying itself as the superior opponent to Sonic than Infinite (which is even more consistent since Sonic needed the help of the Coco's knowledge to truly put down this being).

[@jkunimage4187]

Great vid. Was honestly shocked you could get bayonetta that high. Also Archie sonic vs paper Mario? (Don’t remember who the strongest Mario is lmao)

[@ashuraomega1000]

Mario Kun is the strongest

[@joshuafrazier3904]

The answer no like he gets walled so hard. Like Kirby, Sonic or Beyonetta have got to be able to beat home. Hell Mario has a decent argument for it.

[@Zack-pm2tu]

You say all the Mario characters are relative but Daisy has casually one-shot Bowser with a smack and sent him flying away like Team Rocket. Bowser has also confirmed that he is now scared of her.

[@AutismGaming489]

As a Fire Emblem fan, I will admit that I was offended that you skipped over the Fire Emblem characters but I am willing to admit they are absolutely fodder against Goku and over represented in Smash.

[@StarvingAngel4583]

Robin and Corrin and the people in their army should scale to at least planetary and multiversale based on Anakos and grimas statements in games

[@whirlbinder9783]

Finally! Someone who actually powerscale the Plumber himself

[@urm0m69]

The way he says "ryu" is disrespectful ☠️

[@sridrawings4510]

And also kazuya

[@aarongrayson8667]

And "grimoire"

[@morphstarchangeling8024]

One thing to note. Little Mac can scale to DK because of punch-out wii where he's a secret boss in the title defense mode. That bumps Little mac up quite a bit to be able to take and deal blows that can hurt Donkey Kong who has been show clapping with enough force to shatter meteors in the background or punching the moon out of the sky.

[@Denise-jm1cz]

So this means dk jumps higher than mario becase moon is a space and dk jumped like 20 seconds

[@notoriousyolkhound4600]

The steve slander is crazy 🙏

[@stargazer-elite]

Fr like what about the rest of the Minecraft universe Minecraft dungeons, Minecraft earth, Minecraft legends, Minecraft story mode season 1 & 2 and then the upcoming movie and show which I get, he can’t scale yet because they aren’t out yet, but there’s also plenty of books for both Minecraft and Minecraft dungeons and maybe even the other games.

[@Smnsnsnsn]

@@stargazer-elitesomeone did a video it’s called something like “the true strength of Steve” or something where if I remember correctly would scale above goku

[@excaliburzx1134]

Bro, Goku would be like “I want to see you at your full power” then proceed to let himself get grabbed by Ice Climbers and Wobbled to death

[@encelade.]

Short answer: No Slightly longer answer: My money is on Mii Brawler

[@CuteRedPanda64]

Bro ain't no way he said the Miis are the same level as we fit trainer, when there are OTHER mii games that puts far above some of the other characters. They literally scale up to mario, since they can use his power ups and they can also use Sonic's speed as shown in Sonic colors. The Miis are trained in Kung Fu, boxing, martial arts, ninjutsu and karate. They are also experts at weapons, like swords, shurikens, bow and arrows. With miitopia they have divine powers and jobs that gives them abilities.

[@reggielacey2235]

None of those are canon

[@CuteRedPanda64]

@@reggielacey2235 yes it is.

[@JalenJennings-it4xd]

You again! Like I said Sonic destroys Mario

[@leoforever54321]

since sonic and kirby are there then the answer is no

[@lightingbettle]

Steve has higher scaling than that.Even the stupidly lowballed feats for him in the vs battle wiki get him to at least city block to town level. You see,even with an ordinary iron sword,a hero similar to Steve sliced off the arm of a redstone golem casually. Redstone golems and other golems like them(specifically the redstone and obsidian monstrosities) seem to be full of the material they are names after.In this case redstone.A redstone block has infinite energy.Therefore redstone dust should technically have infinite energy too (even 1% of infinite is still infinite).From my observations, the golem should be compromised of 28 redstone blocks worth of redstone.So infinite energy times 28.If we assume that the golems angered state gives them at least a two times power boost that gets us at 56 times infinite energy.We could then multiply by nine if we take the dust into consideration which is 504 times infinity.The redstone monstrosity is comprised of nearly double the amount a normal golem so it's power would be 1008 times infinity.A hero with a normal iron sword sliced the arm of the normal redstone golem casually in the rise of the arch illager book,the only book to be officially labelled as canon.So Steve even with a simple unenchanted iron sword Steve is hundreds of times above infinity and this is still ignoring the actually high tier feats.The book supports the idea of redstone having infinite energy because when the monstrosity was chasing someone it was said that it would never stop because of infinite energy. As for speed.One word. *INFINITY*. I am not joking,Steve and all mobs for that matter have consistent infinite speed statements.In dungeons and legends it is said that the illager empire and the piglins had reached the furthest parts of the Overworld dimensions which is consistently called infinitely flat.The piglins are said to be able of conquering the dimension whole.This would give illagers and piglins or any mob or hero infinite speed.The golems mentioned earlier were stated to have had sent trembles sensed by the entirety of the Overworld which is also infinite speed and it was implied that the dlc bosses of dungeons would travel the entire world to destroy it.The mobs could travel across a continent within this infinite world in just a few days and we see illagers in the far way dlc islands which are located in the furthest parts of the world implying that they also travelled there.Steve can speedblitz any mob to the point were they can barely react to his attacks. All of this is still a really lowballed Steve still, but you get the point. Steve just wins Edit:So I just remembered that power levels are a thing is MC dungeons.The hero who sliced of the arm of the golem must have had a power level of one at that point in time since the other heroes we play as knew him and saw him as someone at their level.The redstone monstrosity level has a recommended power level of 16,meaning that it is actually 16 times more powerful than the smaller golem so close to 10000 times infinite power. Again,this is ignoring the high tier feats and cosmology.

[@KingObliv]

there's no such thing as a redstone golem in canon

[@reggielacey2235]

Yes there is. Everything's canon in minecraft

[@auragameryt]

@@reggielacey2235 as silly as it is, that is no hyperbole, technically the canon of minecraft is that steve is just an avatar for a god called the player, similar to avatars of darkseid and other gods like him who have noncorporeal forms, and the player simply plays with a sandbox that they have full control over, so every time you mod the game, every time you break, recode, or change the rules of the game, it is all canon.

[@hafid1778]

Also the minecraft dungeons weapons can get stronger infinitly the stronger your current armor and stats which leaves them with no limits. Basically the dungeon weapons are saiyans.

[@Vaporwavelol]

@@KingObliveven so, base game Steve scales way higher than Goku even in survival mode.

[@3eve0n]

yet another person scaling Ness to Giygas 🙄. He wasn't even able to damage him under normal circumstances.

[@monsterplay1007]

Yes of course good luck with Kirby, Goku

[@gameuniverse5973]

I Said good luck to Goku with Mario,sonic,bayo,Joker,and Sora those guys are monsters

[@strange_editor]

​@@gameuniverse5973prob remove Mario bayo and sora since they scale on the same dimensionality to Kirby Meanwhile sonic and joker are around high hyperversal to high outerversal plus to extraversal

[@fredwevlingmatre4722]

23:50 just give Steve resistance five which makes him entirely immune to damage GG

[@auragameryt]

technically commands are canon so this could be a serious point and boom steve just wins

[@Chill-Noob1]

Steve’s commands won’t even work on characters that are not from Minecraft

[@fredwevlingmatre4722]

@@Chill-Noob1 he can use commands to make himself immune to damage and give himself a sharpness G(64) sword and one shot Goku that way.

[@Pufferfish725]

​@@fredwevlingmatre4722Nah, Goku just flies into space, blows up Steve's planet. Then Steve falls into the void gg ez.

[@fredwevlingmatre4722]

@@Pufferfish725 na na Steve would just give himself regeneration 10,000 and he would be fine.

[@Flowing_water_Editz]

So, if we take everything in pikmin with a grain of salt, you're telling me Olimar, the guy who is the sizeof a fucking ant, speed blitzes and one shots characters like Saitama, Saiyan Saga Goku, Omni Man and Showa Godzilla? TF

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@Flowing_water_Editz I mean the star destroying laser is said very casually and a normal thing olimar has

[@JDxY-2]

I actually didn't know Pyra/Mythra and Shulk can Scale to 5D-6D and beat Goku- W Vid

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@JDxY-2 yup cosmology for xenoblade goes crazy when you look at it

[@JadoBouhzam]

​@gameuniverse5973 yet he downplayed goku at 4d when there are statements from guides than can easily put him at 5d such as the afterlife being stated to transcend dimensions perceived by the living world which makes sense since the kais view the living word as a Lower realm easily putting him at 5d also jiren is stated to litrally transcend time as whole to transcend u also transcend space which also solidifies 5d also gogeta vs broly battle is stated to be superdimensional and the dimensions they destroyed where superdimensuons which goku scales above that broly which gogeta fought and so on

[@doge-kun2710]

​@@JadoBouhzam Another good one for 5D Goku is him scaling to Beerus fighting Arale.

[@JadoBouhzam]

@doge-kun2710 yeah that too I do believe goku sits in those 5d to 6d ranges consistently but u can get him higher a scaler by the name of atari hmb did a really good scaling video of how strong goku is u should watch it there are higher dimensions in dragon ball

[@reggielacey2235]

​@@doge-kun2710a joke fight

[@deathpie24]

Kirby doesn't die, he just falls asleep Almost every game over screen is you waking him up to continue

[@Chill-Noob1]

Game over scenes aren’t the best way to powerscale but Kirby has immortal feats like in the start of mass attack, turning into a ghost and can become alive by hitting someone, he can’t be ripped apart and can be stretched and twisted an infinite amount of times

[@gameboysp100]

So we just ignoring haxx then?

[@kirbo12345]

Let me debunk the Kirby part as the best Kirby crossverse debater Argument 1: Kirby scales to void who created the multiverse with runs on many world interpretation and since infinite possibilities exsist in the verse this would be multi+ Argument 2: another dimension trancends space-time and dimensions and is called inter and extra dimensional this would be high multi on CSAP and low complex on vsbattle Argument 3: Kirby and earthbound are canon to eachotter and earthbound has wave function with makes many world interpretation high hyper

[@Gingerbreadley]

Guy makes a universe the size of a closet: damn he slaps Goku

[@Mr_Muda_Himself]

Since both Mario and Sonic can beat Goku I’m just picturing them getting the old SMBZ crew together to drop some sick nasty combos on the verse.

[@Battlefun498]

Steve in creative would win but even him in survive would on shot goku

[@stargazer-elite]

13:40 Eggman did not create the time eater. He found it and used his technology to control it.

[@grugglle8492]

Doesn't Goku literally have the excact same arguement as 5D Mario 😭

[@Goji-C]

No

[@IsaiahJones-rw1pc]

He does but Goji is just gonna ignore it to push his own agenda

[@citrusreality64]

5-D mario is lowball, he can get way higher, plus he outhaxes

[@grugglle8492]

@@Goji-C In DBS Broly Gogeta and Broly legit transcend the Living World which is 4D so it would put em at 5D

[@grugglle8492]

@@citrusreality64 I'm not saying Goku beats Mario I'm just saying that the ends Goji used are also ends similar to Goku's

[@JUICE-BOXALT0]

Goku has been damaged by bullets without any gags or funny moments during that scene in Dragon Ball Super. Since Steve gets killed by creepers then Goku gets beat by Duck Hunt if we go by your logic💀

[@RackerTheRascalMashup]

Difference is that goku was caught off guard while being rusty while steve regularly takes said damage directly Not saying he's right but the comparison just doesn't work

[@kareemlawson34]

Kirby puts him down just for eating all the food

[@TheBaranauticle]

Saying Kirby loses is actually insane. All bro has to do is throw a heart and the battle is won 😭😭

[@DanteDevilTrigger653]

Goji: "says he will use the canon version of characters" 2:25 Also Goji: "Inmediately uses anime filler content"

[@pamajam4038]

Also I'd be totally down for you to do a Video involving Sora, anything Kingdom Hearts would be awesome

[@OnceIRevertToAnEggIMust]

We have Sora, so Smash Bros. SLAMS

[@yooooooooooo105]

steve can literally respawn aka immortal??? +he can carry infinite weight+creative mode+cheat codes like /kil?? or am i just sttupid

[@PicoNewgroundsZ]

Bro...They are all Curious George Victims

[@Chill-Noob1]

Fr fr 😅

[@thevoid5656]

Bro really just decided to talk ignorance with kirby and didn't even bothered talking about how galacta knight exist, a character that casually blow up planets not to mention that dark matter are universal threats, and kirby killed a reality manipulating witch (drawcia) kirby beats goku

[@starjones7050]

Replace Goku with Godzilla in this matchup and Goji Chronic would be wanking him to the highest levels imaginable to say Godzilla wins lmfao

[@EmilianoCharlo-xp2ny]

Marvel godzilla scales to high outer due to beating hulk,thor and hercules from the comics

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@starjones7050 Godzilla would still lose to at least five pretty easy even with comp Godzilla and they don't get comp

[@minilla2382]

​@EmilianoCharlo-xp2ny no unfortunately because he would only upscale the 70s marvel characters and they have gotten stronger since Heisei is a better option

[@EmilianoCharlo-xp2ny]

@@minilla2382 dr strange can beat beings that control a universe with dimensions with no end and comic's thor can beat him with relative ease but states that he is not sure if he can beat godzilla,hulk that is kinda equal to thor gets one shoted by this godzilla Heisei at best scales to 11D, marvel godzilla inf D Also, nice pfp

[@szymonszymus2840]

Goku beats more than half of the roster if you wonder.

[@RavenGamingOverLord]

No

[@ashuraomega1000]

He beats like maybe 3/5 of it

[@szymonszymus2840]

Still he's strong.

[@A_literal_supernova]

No

[@mysticchimp547]

Sonic's the only smash character that realistically beats Goku

[@firegaminggeek938]

I love how he makes it through the Sora section without mentioning the fact that Donald casts the strongest spell known to the Final Fantasy magic system

[@masonmalykhin5207]

Fun fact: kirby on his warp star keeps up with the lore star cutter, which crossed a dimension the size of 20+ universes Also in all the cutscenes after final bosses kirby comes out unscathed, so not only is he tanking multiverse eaters and dimensions collapsing on him, he does it without taking meaningful damage

[@Ulquiorra-beyond]

The Smash lore versión of the roster: Could solo (They are all Ultra Nerfed) The canon versions of the roster: Bayonetta, Sonic, Mario, Shulk, Palutena, Rosalina, Joker, Kirby, etc beat the crap out of him

[@WaddleWhite-r8w]

Olimar got this im sure

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@WaddleWhite-r8w I mean he has a star destroying laser so he could one shot saiyan saga Goku

[@Marcuskwok-hn5yi]

yes

[@RetroMagnus761]

Do "Does Godzilla solo Super Smash Bros Ultimate?"

[@timberulfur]

Which Godzilla, showa,heiser, Millennium, Ultima, earth, race across time, rival, shin, legendary, there's so many versions of Godzilla.

[@gameuniverse5973]

Most Godzilla are getting murdered

[@Goji-C]

☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@Thekingdededewkdk]

Uhhhh about that 😭

[@Applespider12]

Event if we composite him, could be debatable. It’s still a 1 vs. like 80+

[@KiExx0]

32:42 “Void exists in all dimensions.” Taken from his pause screen description in Star Allies, and considering how he just straight-up beat what can be considered an infinite-dimensional being, he does in fact stack up against Sonic and Bayonetta.

[@LegoWhisbecauseyes]

If you include boss fights, it's over for Goku Galeem simply turns him into a spirit and then continues battling Dharkon Tabuu snaps his finger and Goku is now a trophy

[@zombie9865]

"Gokus not above the concept of time". I genuinely don't understand how everyone seems to ignore the vados statement. Like both vados and supreme kai just straight up say jiern surpasses time. And before someone says it's just a character saying it, the authors intent was CLEARLY to show that jiern was literally above time. Goji argued against all of the higher deminsional goku statements in guides because of authors intent, but now he's ignoring a very clearly intended statement given.

[@IsaiahJones-rw1pc]

Goji Chronic is just cherry picking which statements matter and which ones don't in order to push his own biased agenda. He argued semantics with Goku's scaling but took every feat and statement for the other Smash characters to the most hyperliteral meanings possible

[@arkkon2740]

Considering the context, its VERY evident that this doesnt make sense at face value. This came right after Hit got his ability beat out, so unless TOP hit is at the same level of time itself, thats not what she's talking about

[@zombie9865]

@@arkkon2740 I don't think you watched the episode. It went into great depth to show that hit was using a new technique that locked you in time itself, he calls it the time cage. It was never used before, and every single god and angel said it locked jeirn in time itself, to which jiern marched through it and vados along with supreme kai said jeirn was above time.

[@arkkon2740]

@@zombie9865 i remember this episode, and I dont exactly remember this being said ever. If he actually said it was made out of time, you'd still have to actually argue how impressive this is because being "trapped inside time" is about as vague as "I'm as fast as I'm strong", because you can't exactly equate the two and expect people to just think its chill. Is it a time loop? Is it time stop? Is it making so a certain event in time never happens? We dont know, so we can't say its any of these that ACTUALLY reflect the statement.

[@zombie9865]

@arkkon2740 brother, I'm begging you, look at the authors intent. Heck, just rewatch the episode. Do you think the writers of the episode just wrote that in without meaning it? How much do you want, what will prove a dragonball feat to you? Why is it every time dragonball is brought up, no matter what feat is shown people will argue against it. There are still people trying to tell me the dbs universe isn't infinite reguardless of the show and guides saying so. When vados and supreme kai said he was above time, along with the explaination of time cage, it was very clearly meant to be taken seriously. Do you genuinely believe the authors just wrote that in to mess with us, or to be taken as false?

[@hellotoday7435]

I would give the God Goku and Gogeta/Broly super dimensional statements for Goku if you did for Sonic. Sonic still wins due to speed though.

[@IsaiahJones-rw1pc]

He conveniently left out a lot of things for Goku. Universe 7 is comprised of at the very least 8 different space-times (possibly even more if you count the realms in between dimensions like the void and Suguroku Space) with a good portion of them transcending space and time, the afterlife alone is stated multiple times in not only the guides but by the teams who worked on DB to be a higher dimensional realm over the mortal universe and that it transcends all of space and time and the totality of dimensionality which at bare minimum places it at 5D. It was also stated in the guides and V Jump magazines for BOG that Goku and Beerus's battle was "Super dimensional" and that even Beerus's power alone was "beyond dimensions", "super dimensional" on its own dosent mean much without proper context but the definition of the term usually just means "1+ dimensional" aka scaling 1 extra layer into dimensional power which means Goku in BOG can already be scaled to 6th dimensional levels of strength. There's also the fact that Infinite Zamasu (in the anime) engulfed all of Future Trunk's timeline and fused with the entirety of universe 7 (which is a multiversal sized realm) and grew so much to the point where his power seeped into multiple other timelines such as the present, this alone makes Infinite Zamasu 5D at bare minimum and Goku was confident he could have stopped him with a single Senzu Bean. Jiren also surpasses this version of Zamasu in his base form and is so powerful he can shake the entire World of Void just by walking which at bare minimum is a 5D construct because it lacks space and time, Goku later replicates this feat in UI just by powering up as well. There are many more arguments to be used but I'll disregard those for the sake of this comment not being too long. Overall there are many ways you can scale Goku to 6D+ levels of power and higher even at the start of super which were totally disregarded throughout the majority of this video.

[@TACOKINGTHEFIRST]

​@@IsaiahJones-rw1pcthat's where I believe Goku scales. I know some people would say he's outerversal, but I think that is wank.

[@IsaiahJones-rw1pc]

@@TACOKINGTHEFIRST yeah, it kinda is. You can get him there through statements and cosmology scaling but it's still just a highball really.

[@TACOKINGTHEFIRST]

@@IsaiahJones-rw1pc agreed

[@AhmadKazan-wk7ei]

The thing about dbs scaling is that it narratively bans any possibile inf speed,time manipulation hax that a character can have since the angels will just erease anything like that.

[@lawznwdsc]

This was great, i would love to see a video about the Pokemon verse.

[@gameuniverse5973]

@@lawznwdsc peak easily complex multiversal to possibly higher with interpretation

[@ArjonJackson]

I'm so happy people think Mario wins against Goku

[@handtomouth4690]

Sonic: 4D-5D and immeasurable speed, sonic stomps Simon: low complex multiversal amd immeasurable speed, Goku all of a sudden has "comparable" feats.

[@oblivion1924]

4-5D and multiversal are NOT comparable feats.

[@be7256]

theres good scaling for him being higher than 7d lol

[@captainzero4768]

I know this he's not beating Joker, Bayonetta, Kirby, Sora, Sonic, and Sephiroth (Maybe I forgot how were Sephiroth scales)

[@Denise-jm1cz]

And mario

[@captainzero4768]

@@Denise-jm1cz yeah

[@CuteRedPanda64]

And the Miis