Ben 10 vs Goku ISNT A FAIR FIGHT

[@Xerxine]

This is so true! Ben 10 could definitely beat anyone, especially when it comes to extra terrestrials. All it would take is a thought from Alien X, A beam from Atomix or a chronosapien time ray/bomb. That’s not even counting omnitrixes other abilities. It not only gives you the information needed to use your new form, it gives you the Prime DNA sample. Keep in mind, the Saiyans whole superpower is endless potential and strength. So IMAGINE what would happen if Ben scanned Goku and then turned into a Saiyan? His base form would be like 1000,000 transformations stronger than a normal Saiyan, whilst skipping the insufferable screaming and gaudy hair colours. Then there’s the fact that Ben literally cannot die while wearing the omnitrix. If the omnitrix senses a fatal attack it will automatically transform him into something that will be able to survive it, and even if it didn’t? It would just use its DNA restoration feature to regrow Bens body. The only way would probably be old age, and even then, the watch could just use the same DNA restoration process and de-age Ben back to his prime. All reasons to show that he cannot be beaten. And especially why Ben 10 vs Green Lantern was such a shit Death Battle episode. Now. If you don’t mind, I’m gonna go hide in my bunker for when the DBZ fans inevitably come to kill me for speaking facts. 🫡

[@Mccreed77]

Damn bro just came here and dropped facts🙏🏻

[@Mccreed77]

Appreciate the comment and I actually learned more about Ben 10 myself 😭 but get ready for the Goku fan boys 🫡

[@يوسفمحمد-ح5ث5ه]

It's funny how Ben 10 kid fans try to make alien X have no limits fallcey That his thought could destroy any character in any cartoon ever even if the character was like darkseid or thanos 😂 Death battle was very fair and show how limited alien X is if he's that strong belkos will never said that he can't stop the destruction of the universe Alien X is very very overrated and I think he will ever be But this changes nothing alien X can't beat Goku or jiren

[@lettuceboisugmachad465]

​@@يوسفمحمد-ح5ث5هthey legit said in the show that the alien X species could erase beings with a single thought while Ben and the crew were trying to sneak past a bunch of them. Brute strength isn't gonna save goku or jiren from literal reality warping. Maybe Darkseid could in his true form, but yeah anyone else is getting packed up.

[@alphawolf8503]

​@يوسفمحمد-ح5ث5ه yeah no they weren't fair at all not only did they contradict themselves while scaling Alien X they said he failed to stop the annihlarg but say he can do the same thing with feedback later on but they scale alien X below what clockwork scales to they scaled alien X to universal but clockwork litterally brought back infinite universes with ease

[@SlamTasticTV]

I forgot how OP Ben 10 is 😭

[@mikayelalikhanyan1587]

I forgot how much of an idiot ben ten fans are, bro goku fought all of ben ten alien equivilants in his own verse you need to run that back

[@devamaggarwal455]

i almost want to act like a dragonball fan for the memes

[@Mccreed77]

Bro is doing it for the culture 😭 and it’s funny to do sometimes but most times it’s annoying

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

To clarify, Ben would not try to make the fight about strength or speed. He would find more creative ways to weaken Goku.

[@Mccreed77]

I said that

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

@UnapologeticCreed I know, but since the time management in this video could be improved and you sounded a little too emotional, it was difficult to see the point clearly.

[@Mccreed77]

@@AmitCinematicUniverse yeah time is something I work on and how is being emotional bad?

[@AmitCinematicUniverse]

@@Mccreed77 It sounded like you were offended by the idea of Goku standing a chance or people daring to think that he had a chance. It kind of clouded your valid point.

[@Mccreed77]

@@AmitCinematicUniverse it’s call selling your point if you don’t sound true to your word then why say it then?

[@jeffhouston7585]

Me beying equally a Ben 10 and Dragon ball fan i see this as an absolute win!

[@Mccreed77]

Lol

[@SomeRandomKydd]

Whenever I see a power ranking video about Ben 10, I always want to scream about Nanomech. Nanomech has the ability to rapidly adapt to external stimuli such that he can theoretically obtain any power. Now, I realize not a lot of fans know this since the only canon time he used this power was in his Live Action debut Alien Swarm, but he still has the ability. Maybe I am a bit overhyping him due to subconsciously assuming his adaptability is on par with Amazo from Justice League Unlimited, (Nanomech lacks a dedicated scanning device like Amazo) but adaptability has still proven across nearly all media to be the best power to exist. The other alien that messes up powerscaling is Gravattack since measuring the ability to accidently turn a time manipulating monster into a black hole has no form of cross reference.

[@Krokaw]

Actually it is a FAIR FIGHT. They're both gods in their fantasy world.

[@Mccreed77]

@@Krokaw not really if you do a deeper look but i understand what you mean

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

I am both DBZ fan and Ben 10 fan so its my job to tell you- *Goku's infinitely higher power level instantly negs Bens alien hax.* If Ben scanned Goku, he would turn into 16yo Goku at his peak and most definatelly NOT go into SSJ. The only way Ben stands a chance is if he transforms into Alien X and we high-ball his powerscaling to High-Outer but wait, in an ACTUAL fight Ben wouldn't even use Alien X cause its reserved for Universe ending threats and Goku ain't a one! (motive wise not power-wise). Ben 10K tho is a whole -nother beast, if he scanned Goku, got proper amount of training and combined his Saiyan form with Alien X, he would stand a descent chance against Goku, at most against SSB Goku WITHOUT Kaioken. Any form of Ultra Instinct is out of question tho

[@drakoflame7904]

but wasnt alien x in omniverse able to not only survive a universal bomb that destroyed the universe but then remade it in an almost perfect copy? not to mention that the goku that we are talking about is the canon verse and even with ssj with kioken or mastered ultra instinct, goku cant destroy a universe let alone create one. and even if tho ben has his thing about using it for universal threats only, the fight would become so long and destructive ben would transform into alien x. and another thing is that in the other comments that ben can solo canon goku with any of his other aliens too, such as the one that can mix chemicals to create a gas that can affect goku or clockwork that can dust goku with a single ray, not to mention the chronosapien time bomb that literally destroyed all of the timelines except the selected one.

[@GoldKitsuneBrony]

I'd be more interested in whether or not a Sayjin would be in the Omnitrix. Goku training Ben to use his sayjin form? That would be BAD ASS!

[@Wizardwarlock324]

Even if the omnitrix scanned goku's dna, Ben would not be able to acsess the other tranformations and techniqes that goku has except great ape and ikari. If ben tried to fight goku in is saiyan tranformation, he'd just get his ass beat because goku is far more skilled and experienced in combat. Ben would probably only be throwing around ki blasts and punches that would get blocked by goku. Ben would win if he went into other forms like atomix, swampfire, or wildvine as goku isn't immune to poisoning and diseases. Gutrot could probably create a virus on the spot meant to kill saiyans instantly and goku would have no defense against it. Ben could win against goku without clockwork or alien x, It depends on if goku would start in base and go easy or just power up instantly. I also think that ghost freak wouldn't be able to posses goku due to his strong will as he has resisted mind control and has survived the hakai which destroys your mind body and soul which means you are erased from existance and you don't go to an afterlife. Ben wins low to extreme diff, it depens on what the omnitrix gives ben and how goku starts the fight. Ben always wins due to the omnitrix failsaif that will turn ben into an alien that can beat goku if goku tries to kill ben

[@Pheryos]

the part where he won't have same techniques or transformation is true but rather HE WOULD BE THE PERFECT SAIYAN since sayans have unlimited potential and the omnitrix makes the dna the best version(of age that is of ben so best 16 years old sayan possible) that would be what ben would become and ben everytime he unlocks a alien they omnitrix automatically makes him recognise how the alien works and how it operates and all that and so all in all i think the omnitrix would end up creating the best energy optimized technique for him that probably puts goku's techniques to shame think about it we are talking about a level 20+ device here

[@Wizardwarlock324]

@@Pheryos what I forgot to say, is that then, would obviously be the prime hybrid as the Omnitrix doesn’t turn completely into the alien. Also, even though Ben would become the prime sand he would only be the strongest of his age so right now since because Ben is 16 if he transformed into a saying, he’d be the strongest 16 year old.

[@Wizardwarlock324]

Ben’s battle IQ would be absolutely INSANE! He’s already smart enough

[@Pheryos]

@@Wizardwarlock324 I already said that

[@NoName-sn6nk]

Doesn't the ulimatrex simulate like 10,000 years of battle? Imagine broly with 10,000 years of non-stop fighting and training. I don't think goku is beating that personally.

[@kujoova]

Ben would have to be given leeway to transform. If this was a bloodlusted Goku that teenage kid would be dead before he even knows what hes doing. Ben does not have the experience to beat Goku. He'd only have Ikari/Great Ape, and wouldnt be able to control any of them. Not to mention, his power level would probably be super low anyway, so a 10x transformation wouldn't do him any good. He would get effortlessly dogwalked. He's far better off using other aliens that don't require experience and training, to actually be a useful transformation. Transforming into a saiyan wouldnt increase his power level either, as its based on what he is normally. Saiyans arent born powerful, especially young ones, so I dont even think Ben while using Great Ape would have a power level of 100. Remember that aliens have to have certain speed/durability/power feats to pose a threat to Goku, as far as I know, literally everything Ben has would be speed blitzed and fodderised by Goku, who moves within time-less voids in the TOP. The only way he'd have a shot at winning if A) He is allowed to transform, B) He uses alien X

[@PYGMYfromtheowl_gamers]

ben can turn into the strongest version of any alien including Goku

[@Mccreed77]

I know

[@johnokane1899]

he can turn into the legendary super sayin@@Mccreed77

[@magueyeseck7382]

Basically Broly-like.

[@TheRaineyMan]

​@@Mccreed77 Bro, why you acting condescending here? .... We also know...

[@GoldKitsuneBrony]

I can see about half of these. I don't necessarily think Goku could be possessed. We've seen a Sayjin flat out ignore mind control orders from someone powerful enough to mind control that world's Satan.

[@alonzomealing3817]

When ben 10 transforms into each of his aliens, he transform into their peak evolved state with little to no faults in their dna this is to say if he were to get saiyan dna he would be as strong as or stronger than Broly and with more potential and S-Cells

[@rgdevoner2344]

As a ben 10 fan i have to say : About Alien X if its omniverse alien X then Ben wins or else he loses instantly because he wont be able to move Goku is able to breath in space because of super saiyan god (as shown vs Beerus) and about Ghostfreak, when Scare tried to enter Ben's body he couldnt because he wad transformed to fourarms and before entering with raw power pulled him off (four arms isn't even 1% of the raw power goku has)

[@alphawolf8503]

Its explained in that episode that it's got nothing to do with four arms strength its litterally the omnitrix protecting ben from being possessed so yes ghostfreak could posses goku

[@backtadapast9375]

When the omnitrix copies an alien, omnitrix gets the best form of the alien from the race, so ben is gonna naturally be a better saiyan than Goku regardless

[@Mccreed77]

Exactly, I think that would be such a cool thing to see them fight each other imo

[@thenoopy421]

well he wouldn't get the transformations the powers nor the techniques

[@backtadapast9375]

@thenoopy421 I mean not right off the bat, and realistically it doesn't make sense for Ben to use a new alien he just acquired against someone from its own race without understanding the transformation. But similarly to Goku how when Frieza had killed Krillen the first time, he can potentially acquire the transformation later at some sort of specific scenario.

[@thenoopy421]

You do have a point and since the omnitrix makes the dna the most healthiest and strongiest version of the alien Ben may have it easy to learn @@backtadapast9375

[@justinwhite1336]

​@thenoopy421 he would get all the transformation since s-cells, and powers, but not the techniques

[@chibigogetaarts]

It doesn't matter there both amazing characters

[@MAGENUKE]

Who faster? Goku or human form Ben 10… if you say ben then your answer as far as who wins is goku. You gotta hit the watch in order to transform , goku can punch a hole in his chest before he even thinks to transform

[@Mccreed77]

I mean yeah that’s fair but that argument could be used for a lot of other fights as well

[@GarikSargsyan888]

Except omnitrix has feature that doesn’t allow ben to die. He literally held universe in his hands and survived thank to that feature

[@MAGENUKE]

@@GarikSargsyan888 How strong is the material that omnitrix is? And why wouldnt goku be able to just vaporize him stead of a blunt force hit. Goku's energy alone can destroy universes so i dont see anything made up of materials from a universe being more durable than a universe itself. Therefore im pretty sure one good blast would be enough. Ben would literally have already been in a alien x form in order to think of surviving.

[@swordchannelfires]

@@MAGENUKEit’s not really a matter of how durable the omnitrix is but rather how strong the fail safe is, the fail safe was enough to literally react to the big bang, besides its completely out of character for Goku to go for the source of Ben’s powers anyway

[@MAGENUKE]

@@swordchannelfires dont use "out of character" because its out of character for ben 10 to try to OP KILL goku with ALIEN X LOOL

[@PancakeCupz]

Some things you say just isn’t true… but Goku still loses to badly it’s funny 😭🙏

[@Mccreed77]

@@PancakeCupz yeah looking back my research was lacking

[@AnthonyBanks-ix4hg]

Bro you're right about who would win, you're just bringing up the wrong points.

[@Mccreed77]

Not really I just bringing up points that don’t get talked about enough

[@AnthonyBanks-ix4hg]

@UnapologeticCreed alright man, been watching Ben 10 and DragonBall since I was born; I've heard all the arguments.

[@Mccreed77]

@@AnthonyBanks-ix4hg so have I dude so have I

[@hiromisko4516]

im on Team Ben on this but if Ben those get Sayin DNA he most likly be as strong as Broly at base form as Ben would still need to train or get really angry like Goku did to get Super sayin of any kind as super sayin transformation is not an form that can be gained on instinct unlike frieza's forms, but the omnitrix will most likley tell ben how to fly and shoot ki but rest is on him but he can go great ape form without training if he is under a full moon as he will have his tail unlike Goku, so yea Ben still wins even with this let down

[@JerryjoMiller-i1g]

You forgot about super Saiyan God and super Saiyan blue and ultra instinct and that the avatar of key ki

[@jeffhouston7585]

Clockwork says hello.

[@alphawolf8503]

You forgot about legendary super saiyan

[@Xeno_Dan1526]

💀

[@ShubhanshuShukla-or8gv]

You r. Miss in g. Alien. x

[@ClearmindArtist]

Kid GoKu one shots ben.

[@Mccreed77]

No

[@ALeds993]

Real